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Re. Magazine search engine

Rawil Ismail <p.ismail@...>
 

I've used it several times during the past few weeks, and it worked fine for
me just a few minutes ago.

Pete Ismail
Colorado Springs, CO

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From: "Ned Carey" <westernmd@...>
Subject: [STMFC] Magazine search engine


Has anyone else had trouble with The Model Train Magazine Index sponsored
by
Kalmbach. I have been trying on and off for a few weeks. Whenever I do a
search I get a "the page cannot be displayed message" Can anyone else get
it
to work?


Re: Magazine search engine

Jon Miller <atsf@...>
 

I did a search the other night after Andy left a comment "good luck"
about someone trying to find something. Not sure what he meant but my
search worked ok. He might know something we don't!

Jon Miller
AT&SF
For me time has stopped in 1941
Digitrax DCC owner, Chief system
NMRA Life member #2623
Member SFRH&MS


Vinegar cars

lodged2000 <lodged@...>
 

I have a b&w photo of a wooden vinegar tank car in the Rock Island yard
in Cedar Rapids, Iowa that I took in the late 40's. Just can't put my
hands on it right now. I don't know if it was just pasing through or
going to a local industry. Don't think there were any vinegar
producers in the area. Perhaps the Wilson's hog plant used vinegar for
pickled pigs feet?

Don Lodge
The Fourth Street Lines


Re: Vinegar Cars

thompson@...
 

Shawn Beckert observed:
W.C. Whittaker took several pictures of wood vinegar cars
around the San Francisco Bay Area in the 1950's and '60's.
Most were "Heinz 57" cars, but there were others as well.
Don't know if he still has the negatives - a lot of his
collection has been dispersed - but it's a place to start.
AFAIK, all the Whittaker freight car negatives have gone to Arnold Menke,
except those for a few roads where a fan got to Will first (NP is one
example). I would guess the odds are high that Arnold has the vinegar car
photos.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2942 Linden Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 http://www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@...
Publishers of books on railroads and on Western history


Magazine search engine

Ned Carey <westernmd@...>
 

Has anyone else had trouble with The Model Train Magazine Index sponsored by
Kalmbach. I have been trying on and off for a few weeks. Whenever I do a
search I get a "the page cannot be displayed message" Can anyone else get it
to work?

For those of you not familiar with it, it is at
http://www.index.mrmag.com/

Thanks,

Ned


Re: Canadian boxcars in the USA

tim gilbert <tgilbert@...>
 

Ian,

This will not answer your question directly, but there were restrictions
of Canadian cars in the US and US cars in Canada.

A Canadian car could only be loaded in the US if the routing of that
load went through Canada or the carloading was terminated in Canada.
Thus, a B&M-CP-WAB-C&NW-UP-SP routing for a load in a Canadian car was
"legal," while an all-American routing was not (e.g.
B&M-D&H-ERIE-C&NW-UP-SP). An American car was "legal" on both routes.
The shipper could save on the routing through Canada westbound because
of a differential tariff. If a Canadian car had all-American routing, US
Customs could consider the car as a US one, and charge a tariff on it
because it was "imported."

(A B&M-R-NYC-Mich Central-C&NW-UP-SP routing was also considered to earn
a differential tariff because of use of the MC's Buffalo-Detroit
corridor through Ontario. A Canadian car could be used.)

There were instances of Canadian cars being loaded in the US, routed in
near the border on the US side - I do not know whether US Customs looked
the other way or considered the cars not to be subject to Customs
charges.

Tim Gilbert


Re: Canadian boxcars in the USA

thompson@...
 

Robert Kirkham wrote:
I expect that the date would be a big factor in determining that proportion.
I also think that in any given area of the USA, the chances of coming across
a Canadian car could vary widely, depending on usage. For example. I'd
expect to see a lot more CP cars on the Bangor and Aroostook than on the
Southern.
I'm sure that's true, Rob, and would depend on traffic also. As a lad, I
often saw Canadian paper cars in the Los Angeles area. I also vividly
remember seeing one of the Canadian National gray reefers at Taylor
Yard--it made an impression because I had recently seen the (then) new
Varney kit for that paint scheme at the hobby shop. Now, of course, I know
the Varney car has little relation to the CN original, but at the time, it
was a real "prototype epiphany" for me. Gee, those models really do look
like the real thing!
The next gift opportunity, birthday or whatever, I got one of those
Varney reefer kits, and still have the car today (though it's not in the
active fleet).

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2942 Linden Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 http://www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@...
Publishers of books on railroads and on Western history


Mount Clare Shops B&O M-15k Wagontop Boxcar

Charlie and Linda Duckworth <iiv000@...>
 

Can anyone comment on the accuracy of the HO B&O M-15k wagontop boxcar
offered in MR? Shows one piece body - are the sides straight. Is it
worth the $32.50 asking price?

Thanks
Charlie Duckworth


Re: April Shot of the Month

James D Thompson <jaydeet@...>
 

The April Shot of the Month is up.
Isn't the Frisco car in the lower left corner actually a conversion of
their single-sheathed auto cars built in the early 1920s?

David Thompson


Re: Canadian boxcars in the USA

Robert Kirkham <rdkirkham@...>
 

Ian, I don't have an answer to your question, but some comments others may
be able to run with. I've spent a fair amount of time working through the
Railway Transport Reports of the Dominion Bureau of Statistics. These are
very similar to the records of the ICC that are often described on this
list. Unfortuneately, one very useful set of figures available in ICC
reports is not available in the Canadian equivalent: the percentage of home
cars to total cars on line. Without that figure, I'm not sure how one
answers your question.

I expect that the date would be a big factor in determining that proportion.
I also think that in any given area of the USA, the chances of coming across
a Canadian car could vary widely, depending on usage. For example. I'd
expect to see a lot more CP cars on the Bangor and Aroostook than on the
Southern.

Rob


CN boxcar roster information

Ian Wilson <iwilson@...>
 

For anyone modelling during the 1945-59 era and including some CNR
boxcars in your roster, you may be interested in the April topic of the
month posted on our web site (see URL below). We have taken information
from the ORERs over the time period and presented a numerical cross
section of CN boxcars for each year. Ignoring regional and traffic
factors, this can assist a modeller in choosing which CN boxcar kits to
purchase, whether interested in one or two, or several dozen.

Cheers,

Ian
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Box 2565, Orillia, ON L3V 7B1 http://www.canadianbranchline.com
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Re: Vinegar Cars

Norm Dresner <ndrez@...>
 

Ambroid Vinegar Car kits are available from time-to-time on eBay. They've
been running anywhere from $18 to $30+ depending on condition, the
stockmarket, and the phase of the moon -- in other words, about as
predictable as eBay prices ever are.

Norm


Re: Vinegar Cars

Shawn Beckert
 

Dave,

W.C. Whittaker took several pictures of wood vinegar cars
around the San Francisco Bay Area in the 1950's and '60's.
Most were "Heinz 57" cars, but there were others as well.
Don't know if he still has the negatives - a lot of his
collection has been dispersed - but it's a place to start.

Shawn Beckert


Re: Vinegar Cars

Dave & Libby Nelson <muskoka@...>
 

Garth writes:

I'm not quite sure of the street location where I saw the car (and
don't have a map handy), but I can
give you the general area. There is/was an SP yard just east of and
parallel to the #17 freeway. It would
have been roughly a mile north of the Fruitvale bridge between
Oakland and Alameda. Does that sound like
the same general area?
I knew the area you spoke of, it's between 5th and 14th avenue; the Standard
Brands plant is just a little farther south behind the Oakland Coliseum near
98th. I dunno what SP's 5th Ave yard is used for but it's often full of cars.

I don't know if there are currently any kits for these cars.
However, Ambroid used to offer a wooden kit,
and maybe Gloor Craft still does. Knowing how often their kits
actually were built, you could probably
find one on the used market.
AHM has them too - one of which is marked for Standard Brands.

The internet is great. I've now learned vinegar would be a normal byproduct
of this plant; that there is a SBIX car in Tacoma WA; another in Montecello
IL; and as you indicate below, another in Southern California. I found a
couple of small photos of a car at
http://www.mcrwy.com/collectn/woodfrt/richter11.html It looks very like a
SBIX car, tho I do not think it is actually one. The home page is
http://www.midcontinent.org/ and there are numerous old cars that have been
photographed which may be of interest to others.

There was also an article on how to
build one of these in MR sometime during
the 1950s (possibly a "Dollar Car"). IIRC, it was reprinted in the
1970s in the Kalmbach book on easy
freight car projects which I still have. If you can't find this
article, let me know and I can send you a
copy. I also have a pretty good 3/4 photo of a similar car
preserved at the Orange Empire Railway museum
which I can scan for you. Good end detail.
If you can make it high res, I'd really appreciate that.

-----------------------------------
Dave Nelson

*** New E-mail address: muskoka@...


Canadian boxcars in the USA

ian clasper <ianclasper@...>
 

Hi Guys

Now that the freight car nuts from north of the border are awake, I will
throw this international question in their general direction.

What proportion of the Canadian freight car fleet traveled south to
destinations in the USA ?

Ian Clasper




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Re: April Shot of the Month

Dennis Rockwell <dennis@...>
 

On 2 Apr, Ted Culotta wrote:

The April Shot of the Month is up. [ ... ]
http://www.steamfreightcars.com/gallery/shot%20of%20mo/shotofmoapr02.html
Is the first car in the fourth team track one of the
roof-bunker reefers? Had a bunker the length of the car
under the roof; this is supposition from the extra hatches
and the low door.

Dennis


Penick & Ford Tank Car Decals

lodged2000 <lodged@...>
 

Richard,

If he does the P&F decal set I'll take enough to do at least six and
probably more. L. Keyser will want some too.

Don Lodge
The Fourth Street Lines

I also have photos of several GATX 8K ICC-203s assigned to corn syrup
service and stenciled for Clinton or Penick & Ford. I'm going to try to
pursuade Allen to do a decal set for these as well.

Richard H. Hendrickson
Ashland, Oregon 97520


Re: Sending money to Canada

Stafford Swain <sswain@...>
 

Hi Bll:

I was pandering to the larger U.S.-based audience.

Oh yes, I can spell Bill correctly but . . . <g>.

Safford,

I always thought that the correct spelling was "cheque" up
your way!

Bill Daniels
Tucson, AZ

On Tue, 2 Apr 2002 08:49:41 -0600
Stafford Swain <sswain@...> wrote:

Our banks and credit unions will take any U.S.-origin
"check" (see my
'correct' spelling)

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Re: Sending money to Canada

Stafford Swain <sswain@...>
 

Hi:

I'll second that experience on CN LINES and our CN Lines SIG book and product selling efforts.

However, I wanted to point out that the only person at any risk (or even having to think much about the transaction) would be the Canadian-based payee not the U.S.-based payor.

Actually, due to our different laws as to what is fraudulent, Canadian-based cheque writers are far more inclined to be paper hangars than U.S. check writers.

Stafford Swain wrote:


The only "risk" for the depositing recipient is that the item will
later bounce. However, the recipient can take the risk out of same by
simply waiting about ten days before shipping the goods.
Over several years of taking thousands of personal checks (cheques) from
American and Canadian customers, we have NEVER had one bounce. Al
Westerfield once attested the same thing on another list.

Cheers,

Ian
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Re: Sending money to Canada

Stafford Swain <sswain@...>
 

True but a lot of Canadian-origin products in our tiny industry have a U.S. price which INCLUDES the higher price of international shipping.

So, if you send them the Canadian price in Canadian dollars they will likely want more money before they ship. As I said before mail a U.S. dollar check and the Canadian manufacturer/distributor/dealer will be happy!

Dear List:
When I sent a check to purchase something in Canada I first went to
Google and searched exchange rates. If the company gives you the
cost in Canadian dollars it is easy to convert that to American
dollars so you can write the check for that amount. It worked great
for me.

Jared Harper



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