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Hercules Powder House Cars (was Hercules 8000g Type 21 Tanks)

benjaminfrank_hom <b.hom@...>
 

Dave Nelson wrote:
"I have a photo of some Hercules std. gauge house cars... they look like
reefers as it's T&G wood siding, plug door, and they may well have been
insulated, but offhand I don't recall if they were XM, XI, or something
else."

Here's another photo of some different HPCX house cars - these look
like converted reefers:
http://www.phillynmra.org/Sales.html


Ben Hom


Re: Modeling possibilities?

benjaminfrank_hom <b.hom@...>
 

Frank Valoczy wrote:
"Yeah, the stencil says 100,000, and the ORER listing says that, too. I
tweaked the gamma of the image a bit to lighten it and get a clearer
view, and compared it to an Accurail Andrews truck I have at hand...
looks fairly close to the truck on the image."

I agree - I'd go with the Accurail Andrews truck for this model.


Ben Hom


Re: Silver Streak.

Malcolm Laughlin <mlaughlinnyc@...>
 

Your club-mates are watching, Malcolm!
SGL

Thanks John. Now it's just a question of do I have enough ambition to tackle this one.
Malcolm Laughlin
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Re: Modeling possibilities?

destron@...
 


- Use Bowser Crown trucks for your model.
Ben, et al,

Aren't those 50 ton andrews trucks? The car appears to be stenciled
for 100,000 lbs not 140,000 lbs.
Yeah, the stencil says 100,000, and the ORER listing says that, too. I
tweaked the gamma of the image a bit to lighten it and get a clearer view,
and compared it to an Accurail Andrews truck I have at hand... looks
fairly close to the truck on the image.

Frank Valoczy
Vancouver, BC

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Re: Modeling possibilities?

benjaminfrank_hom <b.hom@...>
 

Frank Valoczy wrote:
"Want to bet that that Monon boxcar is an SU? ;)"

Sounds like a good call to me, and entirely appropriate for the 1930s.
Also available from Westerfield as kit number 4106.
http://www.westerfield.biz/4106_66056.htm


Ben Hom


Re: Modeling possibilities?

benjaminfrank_hom <b.hom@...>
 

Bruce Smith wrote:
"Aren't those 50 ton Andrews trucks? The car appears to be stenciled
for 100,000 lbs not 140,000 lbs."

They are DEFINITELY Andrews trucks - cancel that recommendation to use
Bowser Crown trucks!


Ben Hom


Re: Modeling possibilities?

destron@...
 

Two more observations on the photo of CSS&SB 1266:
- Use Bowser Crown trucks for your model.
- Interesting Monon boxcar in the background to the right.
Thanks for the tips, Ben.

Want to bet that that Monon boxcar is an SU? ;)

Frank Valoczy
Vancouver, BC

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Re: Modeling possibilities?

Bruce Smith
 

regarding
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/STMFC/files/Frank%27s%20Randomness/CSS% 26SB%201266.jpg

On Feb 27, 2008, at 9:46 AM, benjaminfrank_hom wrote:
Frank, thanks. I concur with Bob Witt - this is a USRA 70-ton steel
gon that you can do with either the Westerfield or Walthers models.
and

- Use Bowser Crown trucks for your model.
Ben, et al,

Aren't those 50 ton andrews trucks? The car appears to be stenciled for 100,000 lbs not 140,000 lbs.

Regards
Bruce

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Re: Modeling possibilities?

benjaminfrank_hom <b.hom@...>
 

Two more observations on the photo of CSS&SB 1266:
- Use Bowser Crown trucks for your model.
- Interesting Monon boxcar in the background to the right.

Ben Hom


Re: Modeling possibilities?

benjaminfrank_hom <b.hom@...>
 

Frank Vakoczy wrote:
"...I'll post the photo of [CSS&SB] 1266 to the files section of the
group when I get home."

Frank, thanks. I concur with Bob Witt - this is a USRA 70-ton steel
gon that you can do with either the Westerfield or Walthers models.
Decals would be a challenge, but it looks like you can get close using
appropriate alphabet and data sets.


Ben Hom


Re: Looking for parts

rockroll50401 <cepropst@...>
 

Ron, check out Intermountain's website. I think they have a photo of
the RTR CGW model. Big problem with this model is the LS emblem belongs
on a plaque and there are no yellow dots along the bottom. Both easily
fixed. Another concern is the awning over the side cupola windows looks
too big on the pilot models, again something that can be fixed.
Clark Propst


New file uploaded to STMFC

STMFC@...
 

Hello,

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Re: help

Westerfield <westerfield@...>
 

Felix - That's just what I needed. Thanks very much. - Al

----- Original Message -----
From: Felix Daigre
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 11:27 PM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] help


Hi Al,
The 4600P at this link indicates it has the imaging software -HP Photo and
Imaging software
http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/SoftwareDescription.jsp?lang=en&cc=us&prodTypeId=15179&prodSeriesId=303776&prodNameId=407834&swEnvOID=228&swLang=8&mode=2&taskId=135&swItem=sj-20893-1

Hopefully this is what you need.
Good luck.
Felix Daigre

----- Original Message -----
From: " Westerfield" <westerfield@...>
To: <STMFC@...>
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 4:43 PM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] help

> Michael - They have drivers but not the program. I can scan one item but
> then have to reformat to do the next. The program will allow me to keep
> going rather than reload from Widows Explorer for each scan. - Al
> Westerfield
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: michael bishop
> To: STMFC@...
> Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 5:40 PM
> Subject: Re: [STMFC] help
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> The HP web site has drivers for the 4600, p and v
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> http://h20180.www2.hp.com/apps/Lookup?h_lang=en&h_cc=us&cc=us&h_page=hpcom&lang=en&h_client=S-A-R163-1&h_query=scanjet+4600&submit.x=10&submit.y=8
>
> Michael
> Westerfield <westerfield@...> wrote:
> Does anyone own an HP Scanjet 4600? I want to install it on a new
> computer but lost my program disk. The HP site has no download. - Al
> Westerfield
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Mystery Gons

Douglas Harding <dharding@...>
 

I need some help identifying some 1920's vintage freight cars. I have
created a new photo album, labeled "mystery gons", and loaded two photos.
They are of a wreak on a trestle near London Mills, Ill. Taken sometime in
the 20's it is believed. It is believed the wreak was on the Fulton Co
Narrow Gauge line, after the CB&Q standard guaged the track. They had a
crossing over the Spoon River just north of London Mills, which had a long
trestle. The first photo shows what appears to be a steel sided drop bottom
gon, with a flat steel end with two vertical supports. The second photo
shows the steel side of a car with numerous steel supports and a letter O or
Q on the side. I think it is a gon, but can't really tell. Any help would be
appreicated.

Doug Harding
www.iowacentralrr.org

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Re: Hercules 8000g Type 21 Tanks

Dave Nelson
 

Peter Ness wrote:

IIRC, the company originated in the West (CA?) and later
also had offices in the East (DE?).
That would be in Hercules, CA., on Suisun Bay, along the SP's Cal-P mainline
between Oakland and Sacramento. The company used a 36" narrow gauge track
to move stuff around the large property. It's all suburban housing now.

I have a photo of some Hercules std. gauge house cars... they look like
reefers as it's T&G wood siding, plug door, and they may well have been
insulated, but offhand I don't recall if they were XM, XI, or something
else.

Dave Nelson


Re: help

Felix Daigre <wp913a@...>
 

Hi Al,
The 4600P at this link indicates it has the imaging software -HP Photo and Imaging software
http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/SoftwareDescription.jsp?lang=en&cc=us&prodTypeId=15179&prodSeriesId=303776&prodNameId=407834&swEnvOID=228&swLang=8&mode=2&taskId=135&swItem=sj-20893-1

Hopefully this is what you need.
Good luck.
Felix Daigre

----- Original Message -----
From: " Westerfield" <westerfield@...>
To: <STMFC@...>
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 4:43 PM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] help


Michael - They have drivers but not the program. I can scan one item but then have to reformat to do the next. The program will allow me to keep going rather than reload from Widows Explorer for each scan. - Al Westerfield
----- Original Message -----
From: michael bishop
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 5:40 PM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] help


The HP web site has drivers for the 4600, p and v

http://h20180.www2.hp.com/apps/Lookup?h_lang=en&h_cc=us&cc=us&h_page=hpcom&lang=en&h_client=S-A-R163-1&h_query=scanjet+4600&submit.x=10&submit.y=8

Michael
Westerfield <westerfield@...> wrote:
Does anyone own an HP Scanjet 4600? I want to install it on a new computer but lost my program disk. The HP site has no download. - Al Westerfield


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Re: Hercules 8000g Type 21 Tanks

Peter Ness
 

I am sure more authoritative responses will appear and I hope to
learn more about this company. My own very limited research shows
Hercules has a very interesting history as the company began (sources
variously cite ca. 1880 or 1881) manufacturing powder chemicals for
use in explosives (black powder for TNT, largest producer ca. 1917
following divestiture from DuPont ca. 1912) but as time progressed,
they acquired other chemical manufacturing technologies (through
their own development and corporate expansion) so that in the post
WWII years they also manufactured wood rosin-based chemical compounds
useful in several manufacturing industries ranging from paints,
coatings, adhesives, to agriculture (ferilizer) and printing. I have
two reference photos in which these (or similar) cars appear in
service on the New Haven Railroad one of which (taken at South Boston
Freight Terminal) is within the scope of this thread. The other
photo is taken in later years at the New Haven's Cedar Hill Yard
facility. IIRC, the company originated in the West (CA?) and later
also had offices in the East (DE?). The Hercules logo still appears
today used by the successor, Alliant Power which still manufactured
explosive powders. Hercules Inc. still exists manufacturing the
rosin-derived compounds. Alliant is locatd in VA, Hercules in DE.

Regards,
Peter
http://www.freewebs.com/newhavenrailroad1959/

--- In STMFC@..., "Park Varieties" <parkvarieties@...>
wrote:

What type of cargo would these cars have carried when owned by
Hercules Powder? Thanks.
Frank Brua


Re: Looking for parts

Peter Ness
 

I'll be interested to see how this plays out. Intermountain is
distributing the release of the NE-5's and at Springfield a delay was
announced due to breakage issues where the tops of the ladders at
roofline join the main part of the ladder/rung assembly. The
McGinnis-painted NE-5's produced by IM for NHRHTA sale were delivered
to the NHRHTA table at Springfield then later once the defect was
discovered collected by IM for repair/re-work and will not be
available until March at the earliest.

I wrote to IM over the weekend inquiring about parts as I own three
of the old Car Shops brass NE-5 kits that I would like to place on
the new underbody as well as apply the finely detailed ends and
ladders as an upgrade. I also have a Branford Hobbies resin NE-5
body (or two) sitting incorrectly on Atlas NE-6 underframes and ends
that I would like to fix as well...so far, no response from IM about
parts...I'm not holding my breath.

Regards,
Peter
http://www.freewebs.com/newhavenrailroad1959/


--- In STMFC@..., "Charlie Vlk" <cvlk@...> wrote:

Ron-

I take it that you are talking about the NE5 design that they
shared with the New Haven, etc...
You are aware that DesPlaines Hobbies / Centralia Car Works is near
to releasing one in plastic in HO????

Charlie Vlk


Re: Silver Streak.

Schuyler Larrabee
 

Your club-mates are watching, Malcolm!

SGL

Thanks John. Now it's just a question of do I have enough ambition to tackle this one.

Malcolm Laughlin


Re: help

Westerfield <westerfield@...>
 

Michael - They have drivers but not the program. I can scan one item but then have to reformat to do the next. The program will allow me to keep going rather than reload from Widows Explorer for each scan. - Al Westerfield

----- Original Message -----
From: michael bishop
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 5:40 PM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] help


The HP web site has drivers for the 4600, p and v

http://h20180.www2.hp.com/apps/Lookup?h_lang=en&h_cc=us&cc=us&h_page=hpcom&lang=en&h_client=S-A-R163-1&h_query=scanjet+4600&submit.x=10&submit.y=8

Michael
Westerfield <westerfield@...> wrote:
Does anyone own an HP Scanjet 4600? I want to install it on a new computer but lost my program disk. The HP site has no download. - Al Westerfield



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