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Re: GARX car in Monon, IN

John F. Pautz <jfpautz@...>
 

--- In STMFC@..., Roger Hinman <rhinman@...> wrote:

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=825673

Anyone know where in Monon this car is located???


Roger Hinman
Roger,

It appears to be at the Monon museum, on US 421 about 1 mile north of
Monon.

John F. Pautz
American Switch & Signal
P:48 track components


Re: GARX car in Monon, IN

Michael Aufderheide
 

Roger,
&nbsp;
That car is at the Monon Connection museum about a mile north of town on 421.&nbsp; The museum is one of the best I've seen for memoribilia, and they have a restaurant with good pie too.
&nbsp;
Mike

--- On Wed, 6/11/08, Roger Hinman <rhinman@...> wrote:

From: Roger Hinman <rhinman@...>
Subject: [STMFC] GARX car in Monon, IN
To: STMFC@...
Date: Wednesday, June 11, 2008, 6:30 PM






http://www.rrpictur earchives. net/showPicture. aspx?id=825673

Anyone know where in Monon this car is located???

Roger Hinman


GARX car in Monon, IN

Roger Hinman <rhinman@...>
 

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=825673

Anyone know where in Monon this car is located???


Roger Hinman


Re: Texaco Tank Car Fleet in 1950

Andy Carlson
 

The Union Oil Museum in Santa Paula (Southern California) has a B&W image of the Texaco refinery of Fillmore which was closed in 1951. Their photo, if I remember correctly, was credited to a 1950 shot, and in the facility were numerous Texaco lettered tank cars, including 3-4 Silver tank cars with large TEXACO lettering.
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA

Anthony Thompson <thompson@...> wrote: Louie Hydrick wrote:
> I have acquired over the years several negative or slides of a
> Georgia Railroad GP-7 on the Macon Branch with a Silver Texaco Tank
> Car in the consist. At least two different numbers occur; therefore,
> I would not remove all Silver Texaco Tank Cars from an early 1950's
> setting.

Interesting observation. Since we know that tank cars tended to
soldier on without even reweigh stenciling, I suppose it's not odd that
some of the silver paint jobs would survive for years after they were
"discontinued" as new paint schemes.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@...
Publishers of books on railroad history


Re: Invention & Technology article

Jack Burgess <jack@...>
 

I haven't gotten a copy yet but was promised one. I'm glad that it is
finally out...

Jack Burgess
www.yosemitevalleyrr.com

Am I the only one who gets this magazine?

Fantastic article on how "railroader models" do valuable historical
research.

Cites STMFC members such as Hendrickson, Thompsom. Madden,Westerfield,
Hawkins,Burgess,and others. Great article on the protype research and
value of such.

Think we owe all this to Richard Hendricson who started the old FCDX
mail newsletter!

Chuck Yungkurth
Boulder CO


Invention & Technology article

drgwrail
 

Am I the only one who gets this magazine?

Fantastic article on how "railroader models" do valuable historical
research.

Cites STMFC members such as Hendrickson, Thompsom. Madden,Westerfield,
Hawkins,Burgess,and others. Great article on the protype research and
value of such.

Think we owe all this to Richard Hendricson who started the old FCDX
mail newsletter!

Chuck Yungkurth
Boulder CO


Re: Swift's Brookfield Butter "Meat" Reefer

Richard Hendrickson
 

On Jun 11, 2008, at 3:06 PM, rickstern845215 wrote:

Atlas has in their HO line a meat reefer decorated for Swift and the
lettering for "Brookfield Butter". I'm aware that Swift owned a
dairy/breakfast (eggs, milk, butter, etc.) products firm called
Brookfield, but I don't know if they had any special cars for
transporting dairy prodcuts.






See the forthcoming Signature Press book on billboard reefers (out
in July, unless Tony Thompson speaks with forked tongue). As it
happens, I'm doing a final review/copyread at this very moment, It
includes a photo of a Swift car with Brookfield Butter stenciling.
Can anyone tell me ...

* Were these cars used for transporting meat, or dairy products?


E.g., was this just another of Swift's many advertising "sides"
used on
their meat cars? *






Whatever Swift wanted to ship in them. Though the cars were RSMs,
their meat rails didn't prevent them from being used for dairy
products as well.

What was the time period when these cars were
active. I have found collectibles on the web for Swift's Brookfield
subsidiary from before WWII, but not after.




As the book explains, billboard reefers were banned by the ICC
effective in 1934, with all cars having such stenciling to be
repainted by 1938.

* What parts of the
country might these cars have operated?



Any place where Swift had packing plants or wholesale warehouses -
which is to say, just about anywhere except on remote branch lines.

Richard Hendrickson


Swift's Brookfield Butter "Meat" Reefer

rickstern845215 <rstern1@...>
 

Atlas has in their HO line a meat reefer decorated for Swift and the
lettering for "Brookfield Butter". I'm aware that Swift owned a
dairy/breakfast (eggs, milk, butter, etc.) products firm called
Brookfield, but I don't know if they had any special cars for
transporting dairy prodcuts.

Can anyone tell me ...

* Were these cars used for transporting meat, or dairy products.
E.g., was this just another of Swift's many advertising "sides" used on
their meat cars? * What was the time period when these cars were
active. I have found collectibles on the web for Swift's Brookfield
subsidiary from before WWII, but not after. * What parts of the
country might these cars have operated?

Thanks
Rick Stern


Re: Naperville 2008...

Jack Burgess <jack@...>
 

Thanks...

Jack

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 2:17 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Naperville 2008...


On Jun 11, 2008, at 2:03 PM, Jack Burgess wrote:

The dates for this year's Naperville meet have been posted several
times but
I haven't seem any information on the hotel. Since this will be the
first
year that I will have a chance to attend, can someone give me the
hotel
information or where it might be posted?





Holiday Inn, 1801 Naper Blvd., Naperville, IL Phone (630) 445-6314
weekdays and ask for the Sunshine Models rate. But note that the
rate hasn't been established yet, so it's probably too early to book
a room. Also, it's best to phone direct, as some of us have had
problems in the past getting the special rate by phoning the national
Holiday Inn reservation 800 number.

Richard Hendrickson






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Re: Micro Mark Deluxe Decal Finishing System

Lawrence Rast
 

Tim,

I've not heard of this approach to dry transfers to decals before.
Could you expand a bit on it, please?

Best,
Lawrence Rast

On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 9:56 AM, <timboconnor@...> wrote:

I routinely use the Microscale liquid decal stuff (I forget the name) to
either hold old decals together, or to transform tiny lettering from dry
transfers into decals, after first transferring them to decal paper. Just
brush it on and let it dry.


Re: Naperville 2008...

Lawrence Rast
 

Oops, left off the hotel link. Here it is.

http://www.naperselect.com/

Best,
Lawrence Rast


Re: Naperville 2008...

Lawrence Rast
 

Greetings Jack,

The dates are October 30-November 1, 2008 at the Naperville, Illinois,
Holiday Inn.

Best,
Lawrence Rast

On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 5:03 PM, Jack Burgess <jack@...> wrote:
The dates for this year's Naperville meet have been posted several times but
I haven't seem any information on the hotel. Since this will be the first
year that I will have a chance to attend, can someone give me the hotel
information or where it might be posted?

Thanks

Jack Burgess
www.yosemitevalleyrr.com


Re: Naperville 2008...

Richard Hendrickson
 

On Jun 11, 2008, at 2:03 PM, Jack Burgess wrote:

The dates for this year's Naperville meet have been posted several
times but
I haven't seem any information on the hotel. Since this will be the
first
year that I will have a chance to attend, can someone give me the
hotel
information or where it might be posted?





Holiday Inn, 1801 Naper Blvd., Naperville, IL Phone (630) 445-6314
weekdays and ask for the Sunshine Models rate. But note that the
rate hasn't been established yet, so it's probably too early to book
a room. Also, it's best to phone direct, as some of us have had
problems in the past getting the special rate by phoning the national
Holiday Inn reservation 800 number.

Richard Hendrickson


Naperville 2008...

Jack Burgess <jack@...>
 

The dates for this year's Naperville meet have been posted several times but
I haven't seem any information on the hotel. Since this will be the first
year that I will have a chance to attend, can someone give me the hotel
information or where it might be posted?

Thanks

Jack Burgess
www.yosemitevalleyrr.com


Uncure ACC Debonder (Was:Taking Apart a Sunshine Model)

Mike Fortney
 

I have had several off-list requests as to where to find Uncure.
http://www.bsiadhesives.com/Pages/hobby/accel.html
There is a dealer locater link on their home pages.

Std disclaimer - blah, blah </dracula voice> , just a satisfied customer.

Mike Fortney
Bloomington, IL


Re: 2007 Meet

benjaminfrank_hom <b.hom@...>
 

Lee Bertholf asked:
"I missed the photos of the 2007 Meet I wondered if someone had a site
or pictures avaiable of the models that were there."

Which meet? There are several.


Ben Hom


2007 Meet

Lee Bertholf <lebert1942@...>
 

I missed the photos of the 2007 Meet I wondered if someone had a site
or pictures avaiable of the models that were there. Lee


Re: Triple Hoppers

benjaminfrank_hom <b.hom@...>
 

Cleaning out some old e-mails and found this one from April 2006 that
was never answered:

Armand Premo asked:
"Are there any good models of a quad hopper other than Bowser's or
Westerfield's (both Pennsy}?"

Depends on what you define as "good", as each of the following models
will need work:

Athearn/AHM (Roco)/Tyco/Bachmann (Cox) Offset Quad Hoppers:
The Athearn HO scale offset quad hopper, along with the Athearn 40 ft
prewar AAR boxcar are possibly the most copied models in the history
in the history of the model railroading hobby. This model has been
copied by various manufacturers in HO and N scale with varying degrees
of prototype fidelity, and offered in far more bogus than correct
paint schemes.

Prototype: All of these models more or less follow the B&O version
(Class W-2 and subclasses) of the 1926/1929 ARA offset quad hopper,
with the ladders favored by the B&O vice grabs preferred by most of
the other roads ordering these cars. Unfortunately, these models
fall below the current state of the art; a common problem of all of
the models is crude brake details, with the Athearn model having a
toy-like one-piece casting incorporating all three brake components
with a ton of extra plastic. Additionally, models of early cars need
to have the brake system backdated to K brakes and vertical staff
handbrakes.

See Railway Prototype Cyclopedia 5 and 14 for photos and roster
information.

Specific pros and cons of the HO scale models:

Athearn:
Pros: Readily available. Later runs have much improved lettering;
lettering on runs done for B&ORRHS are very nicely done.
Cons: Several glaring toy like details, most notably overly thick
operating doors that rarely stay closed and monolithic brake casting.
Lettering on earlier runs very badly done. Very light in weight.

AHM/Roco:
Pros: Later models have cast on non-operating doors which are much
better in appearance than the Athearn model. Readily available on the
secondary market, though you will need to shop around for the best
price.
Cons: Talgo trucks with the infamous AHM friction fit kingpin that
doesn't hold well in service. Early models have the operating doors.
Very light in weight.

Tyco:
Pros: Models have cast on non-operating doors which are much better in
appearance than the Athearn model. Readily available on the secondary
market, though you will need to shop around for the best price.
Cons: Model has incorrect fishbelly underframe. (This can be replaced
with strip styrene). Talgo trucks. Very light in weight.

Bachmann (ex-Cox):
Pros: Models have cast on non-operating doors which are much better in
appearance than the Athearn model. Current runs have body mounted
couplers and screw mounted trucks. Older models are readily available
on the secondary market; model is currently in production. Still
light compared with NMRA RP 20.1, but nowhere near as bad as the other
models.
Cons: Overall appearance of model is very crude, with the splice
plates on the sides modeled particularly badly. Model has incorrect
fishbelly underframe. (This can be replaced with strip styrene).
Earlier models have Talgo trucks. Cars lettered in B&O are badly done.

Given the choice, I prefer the later AHM models, with the Tyco model
coming in second. We'll cover building Class W-2 and subclass cars
from these models in a future issue of the B&O Modeler.

HObbyline/Lionel Quad: This is a model of a Lehigh Valley
prototype. Some details are rough (notably the molded on grabs, door
details, and brake details), but it captures the important details of
the prototype, inclucing the wheel clearance pockets in the hoppers.
Many of the prototype cars were later "kitbashed" into twins during
the late 1930s and 1940s. Tooling for the HObbyline model was later
used by Lionel for their HO scale models - go with the HObbyline
models as you can get them cheaper if you want to do this car.
Model photo from the pay side of the RPI website:
http://railroad.union.rpi.edu/displayimage.php?i=27165#

Roller Bearing Models PRR Class H25: Early resin kit; builds into a
credible model of a Class H25 quad but is a bit of a challenge to
assemble, particularly the hoppers, which are cast metal and
difficult to keep square.

Walthers Quad Hopper: Not a steam era design, but a 100-ton design
from the 1960s. See Jim Eager's article from the January 1993
Railmodel Journal for more information.
http://www.walthers.com/exec/productinfo/932-4911

As for coming models, Funaro & Camerlengo displayed test castings of
a new HO scale PRR Class H25 quad featuring a one-piece body
casting. This model will be coming out this summer.


Ben Hom


Re: Taking Apart a Sunshine Model

Tony Higgins
 

I built this model last year, and was also concerned by top heaviness
from the thick roof casting. I set my drill press up to a fixed depth
and drilled out most of the material with a 1/4" drill. I forgot to
weigh it before and after, but I estimate I reduced it's weight by
nearly half. When I get my layout running, I'll see how it does.

-Tony Higgins

--- In STMFC@..., "rwitt_2000" <rmwitt@...> wrote:

John Golden wrote:

" The problem is that this SAL round-roof box car has a huge, thick
roof
casting and the body did not assemble properly."
<snip>
It seems
that the model will be top heavy and not track well using the thick
roof
casting. I would be interested in learning from those that have
assembled these two kits if they had any problems actually
operating
these models.

Bob Witt


Re: B&O M-27 Tracking

Jim Williams <wwww5960@...>
 

Bob......Can't recall exact amounts but I used 1.5 to 2 oz of weight on the inside floor to bring up the car weight. ....It is not top heavy and I have had no problem running it in trains.......Jim Williams

Paul <buygone@...> wrote: Bob:

I have completed both Sunshine 58.1 and 58.6. I have no problem running
them, all of my car get equipped with re-box 88 wheels.

Paul C. Koehler

_____

From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of
rwitt_2000
Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 7:27 AM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Taking Apart a Sunshine Model

John Golden wrote:

" The problem is that this SAL round-roof box car has a huge, thick roof
casting and the body did not assemble properly."

Martin did the B&O M-27 versions with the Tatum roof also with a very
thick casting for the roof. When I build mine I intend to scratch build
the roof per the article in Railroad Model Craftsman by Bob Chapman
using a Red Caboose ARA roof casting as the starting point. It seems
that the model will be top heavy and not track well using the thick roof
casting. I would be interested in learning from those that have
assembled these two kits if they had any problems actually operating
these models.

Bob Witt

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