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Re: youngstown 4/6/6 doors

Steve Haas
 

Brian,



Don't know if you bought them for the GN 12 panel cars or not (only you can
truly answer that <grin>), but that's what I bought 25 pair for!





Data I've collected over the years indicates the 4/6/6 doors were used on the
following GN series of 12 panel cars:



10900 - 11374 built '48 - some had 7 panel Pullman Standard doors



11375 - 11874 built '48 - some had 5 panel Pullman Standard doors



18500 - 19499 built '49



19500 - 20499 built '51



Note that Intermountain has cast two different ends for the 12 panel kit over
the years. Early models were a "4/3/thin" , later are a 4/3/0. Also, on some
series produced at the GN's St. Cloud shops, the top "rolling pin" on the
middle "3" panel is flat all the way across the bottom.



Best regards,



Steve Haas

Sammamish, WA



Brian J Carlson writes:



"I have two pair of Dan Hall 4/6/6 (counting from the top down) Youngstown

doors. I am not sure why I bought these. I think I planned to use a pair

for a GN 12 panel model. Does anyone know if the GN 12 panel cars used

these doors."


youngstown 4/6/6 doors

Brian J Carlson <brian@...>
 

I have two pair of Dan Hall 4/6/6 (counting from the top down) Youngstown
doors. I am not sure why I bought these. I think I planned to use a pair
for a GN 12 panel model. Does anyone know if the GN 12 panel cars used
these doors.

Brian J Carlson P.E.
Cheektowaga NY


Re: F-70-7-- possible stand-in for C&EI?

armprem
 

Brian,Shows you how much I know about the C&IE.Quess I'll check my ORER before I offer to help.Blush,Armand Premo

----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian J Carlson" <brian@bluemoon.net>
To: <STMFC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 2:49 PM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: F-70-7-- possible stand-in for C&EI?


Armand: F-70-7 is a Flatcar.
Brian J Carlson P.E.
Cheektowaga NY
----- Original Message -----
From: "Armand Premo" <armprem@surfglobal.net>
To: <STMFC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 12:48 PM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: F-70-7-- possible stand-in for C&EI?


Jerry,Des Plaines Hobbies released a CE&I boxcar Kit #143 with a
Viking
roof.They still may have some.Armand Premo
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Re: F-70-7-- possible stand-in for C&EI?

Brian J Carlson <brian@...>
 

Armand: F-70-7 is a Flatcar.
Brian J Carlson P.E.
Cheektowaga NY

----- Original Message -----
From: "Armand Premo" <armprem@surfglobal.net>
To: <STMFC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 12:48 PM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: F-70-7-- possible stand-in for C&EI?


Jerry,Des Plaines Hobbies released a CE&I boxcar Kit #143 with a
Viking
roof.They still may have some.Armand Premo
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Re: F-70-7-- possible stand-in for C&EI?

armprem
 

Jerry,Des Plaines Hobbies released a CE&I boxcar Kit #143 with a Viking roof.They still may have some.Armand Premo

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ed Hawkins" <hawk0621@sbcglobal.net>
To: <STMFC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 10:17 AM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: F-70-7-- possible stand-in for C&EI?



On Sep 21, 2008, at 7:02 AM, jerryglow2 wrote:

I found this old post of yours while gathering info to do my SP kit.
Are any decals suitable to do it as C&EI or can you provide a pic I
can
use to do artwork?

Jerry Glow
Jerry,
Red Caboose eventually produced the C&EI model, their catalogue no.
RR-32140 and RR-32141. They are presently shown on RC's web site as
being sold.
Regards,
Ed Hawkins




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neat gondola load

Tim O'Connor
 


Re: F-70-7-- possible stand-in for C&EI?

Ed Hawkins
 

On Sep 21, 2008, at 7:02 AM, jerryglow2 wrote:

I found this old post of yours while gathering info to do my SP kit.
Are any decals suitable to do it as C&EI or can you provide a pic I
can
use to do artwork?

Jerry Glow
Jerry,
Red Caboose eventually produced the C&EI model, their catalogue no.
RR-32140 and RR-32141. They are presently shown on RC's web site as
being sold.
Regards,
Ed Hawkins


Re: F-70-7-- possible stand-in for C&EI?

jerryglow2
 

Sorry - I meant to send that direct to Ed.

Jerry Glow

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "jerryglow2" <jerryglow@...> wrote:

I found this old post of yours while gathering info to do my SP
kit.
Are any decals suitable to do it as C&EI or can you provide a pic I
can
use to do artwork?

Jerry Glow

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Ed Hawkins <hawk0621@> wrote:

The SP and C&EI cars are of the same design and are both included
on
the same AC&F general arrangement drawing. Last year I notified
Bill
McClung of Red Caboose about this and sent him a good scan of the
C&EI
car along with the painting specs. However, to date I've not seen
any
evidence of a C&EI model from RC.
Regards,
Ed Hawkins


Re: F-70-7-- possible stand-in for C&EI?

jerryglow2
 

I found this old post of yours while gathering info to do my SP kit.
Are any decals suitable to do it as C&EI or can you provide a pic I can
use to do artwork?

Jerry Glow

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Ed Hawkins <hawk0621@...> wrote:

The SP and C&EI cars are of the same design and are both included on
the same AC&F general arrangement drawing. Last year I notified Bill
McClung of Red Caboose about this and sent him a good scan of the
C&EI
car along with the painting specs. However, to date I've not seen any
evidence of a C&EI model from RC.
Regards,
Ed Hawkins


Items for sale

Rob Sarberenyi <espeef5@...>
 

I have several items posted on eBay that may be of interest....

An interesting booklet from the Nickel Plate's Industrial Development Dept.
published in June 1945, great for the modeler planning a layout and
operation
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=310085538931

This booklet published by the Reading in what appears to be the early 1950s
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=310085244056

Several HO scale PRR freight car decal sets from Middle Division
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=310085244056
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=260289683712
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=310085243989
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=310085244005
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=310085244021

Accu-Cal decals for New Haven locomotives
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=310085243703

and plenty more items listed to suit a wide variety of interests
http://stores.ebay.com/Espee-F-5

I'm out of town until Friday, but will answer any questions best as possible
from the road.

Thanks for looking!


Rob Sarberenyi
espeef5@pacbell.net


Re: Early train length laws

water.kresse@...
 

Brian,

It became interesting with join C&O-Chinchfield brouchers with I believe the Clinchfield going N-S and C&O going E-W but have coordinating fast freights No. 95 and No. 97 schedules. I might be wrong there about the Clinchfield.

Al Kresse

-------------- Original message --------------
From: "bflynnd1" <bflynn562@aol.com>
Al,
I don't know why they they listed the C&O as North and South lines, but
that is the way it is listed in the booklet.

Brian Flynn

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, water.kresse@... wrote:

Folks,

Good find. However, the C&O "officially" ran East-West. Does "C&O
line north" mean heading West or in the C&O Northern (Ohio) region? It
would be logical for the C&O to have longer sidings heading east (your
south ref) to Tidewater, and mostly downhill.

Al Kresse


Re: Early train length laws

bflynnd1
 

Al,
I don't know why they they listed the C&O as North and South lines, but
that is the way it is listed in the booklet.

Brian Flynn

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, water.kresse@... wrote:

Folks,

Good find. However, the C&O "officially" ran East-West. Does "C&O
line north" mean heading West or in the C&O Northern (Ohio) region? It
would be logical for the C&O to have longer sidings heading east (your
south ref) to Tidewater, and mostly downhill.

Al Kresse


Re: Early train length laws

water.kresse@...
 

Folks,

Good find. However, the C&O "officially" ran East-West. Does "C&O line north" mean heading West or in the C&O Northern (Ohio) region? It would be logical for the C&O to have longer sidings heading east (your south ref) to Tidewater, and mostly downhill.

Al Kresse

-------------- Original message --------------
From: "Armand Premo" <armprem@surfglobal.net>
This thread should be considered out of scope and be directed to
OPS.Armand Premo
----- Original Message -----
From: <bflynn562@aol.com>
To: <STMFC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 10:14 PM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: Early train length laws

Not sure how all the question marks ended up in my post.? There is no date
for the maximum train lengths but I can give you the following
information:?
C&O?lines north? 160
C&O lines south? 175
N&W 175
Virginian? 175

Brian Flynn



-----Original Message-----
From: water.kresse@comcast.net
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 7:20 am
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: Early train length laws



Brian,

That sounds like a great booklet!

I would be interested in the 1921 data which would be applicable to the
purchasing by C&O/N&W/Virginian of Hi Capy Gons in that era and did any of
the
railroads have voluntary limits WAY BACK THEN.

Many thanks,

Al Kresse

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Re: Early train length laws

Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
 

Ben Hom wrote:
Tony Thompson wrote:
"Nope. I get mail in "plain text" and it's still full of question
marks."

Brian is correct - it's a result of AOL formatting at the SENDER, not
the recipient.
Yes, sorry for the confusion.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@signaturepress.com
Publishers of books on railroad history


The Postwar Freight Car Fleet 3rd printing

bobgang@...
 

Some of you may already be aware of this, but got a newsletter from the
Kalmbach Memorial Library indicating that a third run of the Larry Kline and Ted
Culotta book has been made and is available (maybe as a Christmas present?) from
the Library for NMRA member price of $49.95 or non-member price of $64.95
plus US shipping of $8.95 per volume. TN residents add your sales tax.
Orders will be taken at NMRA HQ in Chattanooga, call 423-892-2846 or go
online at _www.nmra.org_ (http://www.nmra.org) .

Thought I would pass it along for any interest.
Bob Gangwish



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Re: Early train length laws

benjaminfrank_hom <b.hom@...>
 

Tony Thompson wrote:
"Nope. I get mail in "plain text" and it's still full of question
marks."

Brian is correct - it's a result of AOL formatting at the SENDER, not
the recipient.


Ben Hom


Re: Early train length laws

armprem
 

This thread should be considered out of scope and be directed to OPS.Armand Premo

----- Original Message -----
From: <bflynn562@aol.com>
To: <STMFC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 10:14 PM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: Early train length laws


Not sure how all the question marks ended up in my post.? There is no date for the maximum train lengths but I can give you the following information:?
C&O?lines north? 160
C&O lines south? 175
N&W 175
Virginian? 175

Brian Flynn



-----Original Message-----
From: water.kresse@comcast.net
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 7:20 am
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: Early train length laws



Brian,

That sounds like a great booklet!

I would be interested in the 1921 data which would be applicable to the
purchasing by C&O/N&W/Virginian of Hi Capy Gons in that era and did any of the
railroads have voluntary limits WAY BACK THEN.

Many thanks,

Al Kresse

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Re: Early train length laws

Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
 

Brian Carlson wrote:
Brian: The question marks are a by product of AOL's email program. If I recall correctly it is a by product of their HTML set up. If you switch to plain text it should be eliminated.
Nope. I get mail in "plain text" and it's still full of question marks.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@signaturepress.com
Publishers of books on railroad history


Re: ADMIN: Re: George Hollwedel has invited you to join Friendster

Clark Cooper
 

Mike,

Just so everybody knows... these are usually not intentional. It's a form of viral marketing. When a person signs up for the Friendster (or similar) social web service, it grabs their address book, sent message address list, whatever else, and spams out invitations to every address it can find on that person's computer. Supposedly, the person signing up can opt to disallow this. But, it's been known to happen regardless of their choice.

I can't offer advice on how to deal with it on the STMFC list, other than what you mention below.

-Clark Cooper

On Sep 19, 2008, at 8:15 AM, Mike Brock wrote:

George Hollwedel's Friendster message is clearly out of scope. Be warned
that such messages will get you significant time in Moderate Jail....or
worse.

Mike Brock
STMFC Owner


Re: Early train length laws

Brian J Carlson <brian@...>
 

Brian: The question marks are a by product of AOL's email program. If I
recall correctly it is a by product of their HTML set up. If you switch to
plain text it should be eliminated.

Brian J Carlson P.E.
Cheektowaga NY

----- Original Message -----
From: <bflynn562@aol.com>
To: <STMFC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 10:14 PM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: Early train length laws


Not sure how all the question marks ended up in my post.? There is no date
for the maximum train lengths but I can give you the following information:?
C&O?lines north? 160
C&O lines south? 175
N&W 175
Virginian? 175

Brian Flynn



-----Original Message-----
From: water.kresse@comcast.net
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 7:20 am
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: Early train length laws



Brian,

That sounds like a great booklet!

I would be interested in the 1921 data which would be applicable to the
purchasing by C&O/N&W/Virginian of Hi Capy Gons in that era and did any of
the
railroads have voluntary limits WAY BACK THEN.

Many thanks,

Al Kresse

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