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Re: The best lighting for kit-building.

jerryglow2
 

I used to host a small group of modelers to meet at my shop, go out
to dinner, then come back to build our own models at "work stations"
around the room. One of them brought his own Ott light in a briefcase
and set it up for himself. I believe these are available commercially
and the bulb itself from Champ Decals.

Jerry Glow

&#92;--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Denny Anspach <danspach@...> wrote:

Continuing a pleasant custom, I have been building resin kits at
our
summer home. I used to build them on the porch (a la Bill
Darnaby),
but the afternoon zephyrs prevailing in this country eventually
caused
me to retire to a cozy corner.

A continuing problem that increasingly plagues my modeling is
poor
lighting- lighting that no matter how bright creates blinding
shadows
and stark contrasts that commonly stretches 5 minute tasks into
maddening and quite tedious marathons.

I ask the good kit builders on this list what ideal portable
shadowless lighting, or lighting arrangements that they are
finding
ideal for their kit building work stations? Keep in mind that
older
eyes require higher light levels, and they are unable to
accommodate
to light level changes very well.

Denny

Denny S. Anspach MD
Okoboji, IA


The best lighting for kit-building.

Denny Anspach <danspach@...>
 

Continuing a pleasant custom, I have been building resin kits at our summer home. I used to build them on the porch (a la Bill Darnaby), but the afternoon zephyrs prevailing in this country eventually caused me to retire to a cozy corner.

A continuing problem that increasingly plagues my modeling is poor lighting- lighting that no matter how bright creates blinding shadows and stark contrasts that commonly stretches 5 minute tasks into maddening and quite tedious marathons.

I ask the good kit builders on this list what ideal portable shadowless lighting, or lighting arrangements that they are finding ideal for their kit building work stations? Keep in mind that older eyes require higher light levels, and they are unable to accommodate to light level changes very well.

Denny

Denny S. Anspach MD
Okoboji, IA


Re: F-70-7-- possible stand-in for C&EI?

jerryglow2
 

Oops I see the Erie and Soo are the only ones listed one their site.
It was a 10' IH AAR '37 car with Viking roof for roads using them.
You can of course add the Viking roof which they sell separately. The
flatcar in discussion is Red Caboose's SP F-70 which was also good
for (and offered) C&EI but none still available.

Jerry Glow

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Gatwood, Elden J SAD "
<elden.j.gatwood@...> wrote:

Guys;
I do not know the details of what you are talking about, but sure
would.

What, exactly, does this Des Plaines kit model? And you say they
are still
available? Why have I not seen them on their website?
And what was this earlier C&EI kit from RC?

Thanks!
Elden Gatwood


Re: F-70-7-- possible stand-in for C&EI?

benjaminfrank_hom <b.hom@...>
 

Elden Gatwood asked:
"I do not know the details of what you are talking about, but sure
would. What, exactly, does this Des Plaines kit model? And you say
they are still available? Why have I not seen them on their website?"

Armand has unecessarily muddied the waters on this one. The Des
Plaines kit has absolutely NOTHING to do with the subject line. It's
a model of C&EI 64000-64499, pre-war AAR boxcars with Viking roofs.
The model is a Red Caboose (ex-IMWX) pre-war AAR boxcar with a new
roof casting. More details on the prototype can be found on this
table:
http://www.steamfreightcars.com/prototype/frtcars/1937aarpdfmain.html


"And what was this earlier C&EI kit from RC?"

This is the car in the original message in this thread - it's a group
of SP Class F-70-7 "look-alike" flats owned by the C&EI that Red
Caboose is offering on their HO scale F-70-7 models. Their website
has not been updated to include the F-70-7 in the HO scale kit
listings.


Ben Hom


Re: F-70-7-- possible stand-in for C&EI?

Gatwood, Elden J SAD
 

Guys;



I do not know the details of what you are talking about, but sure would.



What, exactly, does this Des Plaines kit model? And you say they are still
available? Why have I not seen them on their website?



And what was this earlier C&EI kit from RC?



Thanks!



Elden Gatwood





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jerryglow2
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Subject: [STMFC] Re: F-70-7-- possible stand-in for C&EI?



Thanks, Armand. I have one I think I purchased when they first came
out. I think they do still have them as I've been advising my friend a
former narrow guager about steam era freight cars and Des Plains shop.
He was able to stop there earlier this summer and saw them there.

Jerry Glow

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:STMFC%40yahoogroups.com> , "Armand
Premo" <armprem@...> wrote:

Jerry,Des Plaines Hobbies released a CE&I boxcar Kit #143 with a
Viking
roof.They still may have some.Armand Premo


Re: F-70-7-- possible stand-in for C&EI?

jerryglow2
 

Thanks, Armand. I have one I think I purchased when they first came
out. I think they do still have them as I've been advising my friend a
former narrow guager about steam era freight cars and Des Plains shop.
He was able to stop there earlier this summer and saw them there.

Jerry Glow

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Armand Premo" <armprem@...> wrote:

Jerry,Des Plaines Hobbies released a CE&I boxcar Kit #143 with a
Viking
roof.They still may have some.Armand Premo


Re: F-70-7-- possible stand-in for C&EI?

jerryglow2
 

Thanks Ed. I couldn't even find the SP or any of the 53" flatcars until
you gave me the kit numbers and did a search.

Jerry Glow

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Ed Hawkins <hawk0621@...> wrote:

Red Caboose eventually produced the C&EI model, their catalogue no.
RR-32140 and RR-32141. They are presently shown on RC's web site as
being sold.
Regards,
Ed Hawkins


Re: neat gondola load

Manfred Lorenz
 

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2006-1/1137438/f991.jpg
Looks like the springs are bottoming out. Is that legal?

Manfred


Re: youngstown 4/6/6 doors

Steve Haas
 

Brian,



Don't know if you bought them for the GN 12 panel cars or not (only you can
truly answer that <grin>), but that's what I bought 25 pair for!





Data I've collected over the years indicates the 4/6/6 doors were used on the
following GN series of 12 panel cars:



10900 - 11374 built '48 - some had 7 panel Pullman Standard doors



11375 - 11874 built '48 - some had 5 panel Pullman Standard doors



18500 - 19499 built '49



19500 - 20499 built '51



Note that Intermountain has cast two different ends for the 12 panel kit over
the years. Early models were a "4/3/thin" , later are a 4/3/0. Also, on some
series produced at the GN's St. Cloud shops, the top "rolling pin" on the
middle "3" panel is flat all the way across the bottom.



Best regards,



Steve Haas

Sammamish, WA



Brian J Carlson writes:



"I have two pair of Dan Hall 4/6/6 (counting from the top down) Youngstown

doors. I am not sure why I bought these. I think I planned to use a pair

for a GN 12 panel model. Does anyone know if the GN 12 panel cars used

these doors."


youngstown 4/6/6 doors

Brian J Carlson <brian@...>
 

I have two pair of Dan Hall 4/6/6 (counting from the top down) Youngstown
doors. I am not sure why I bought these. I think I planned to use a pair
for a GN 12 panel model. Does anyone know if the GN 12 panel cars used
these doors.

Brian J Carlson P.E.
Cheektowaga NY


Re: F-70-7-- possible stand-in for C&EI?

armprem
 

Brian,Shows you how much I know about the C&IE.Quess I'll check my ORER before I offer to help.Blush,Armand Premo

----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian J Carlson" <brian@bluemoon.net>
To: <STMFC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 2:49 PM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: F-70-7-- possible stand-in for C&EI?


Armand: F-70-7 is a Flatcar.
Brian J Carlson P.E.
Cheektowaga NY
----- Original Message -----
From: "Armand Premo" <armprem@surfglobal.net>
To: <STMFC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 12:48 PM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: F-70-7-- possible stand-in for C&EI?


Jerry,Des Plaines Hobbies released a CE&I boxcar Kit #143 with a
Viking
roof.They still may have some.Armand Premo
----- Original Message -----


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Re: F-70-7-- possible stand-in for C&EI?

Brian J Carlson <brian@...>
 

Armand: F-70-7 is a Flatcar.
Brian J Carlson P.E.
Cheektowaga NY

----- Original Message -----
From: "Armand Premo" <armprem@surfglobal.net>
To: <STMFC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 12:48 PM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: F-70-7-- possible stand-in for C&EI?


Jerry,Des Plaines Hobbies released a CE&I boxcar Kit #143 with a
Viking
roof.They still may have some.Armand Premo
----- Original Message -----


Re: F-70-7-- possible stand-in for C&EI?

armprem
 

Jerry,Des Plaines Hobbies released a CE&I boxcar Kit #143 with a Viking roof.They still may have some.Armand Premo

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ed Hawkins" <hawk0621@sbcglobal.net>
To: <STMFC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 10:17 AM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: F-70-7-- possible stand-in for C&EI?



On Sep 21, 2008, at 7:02 AM, jerryglow2 wrote:

I found this old post of yours while gathering info to do my SP kit.
Are any decals suitable to do it as C&EI or can you provide a pic I
can
use to do artwork?

Jerry Glow
Jerry,
Red Caboose eventually produced the C&EI model, their catalogue no.
RR-32140 and RR-32141. They are presently shown on RC's web site as
being sold.
Regards,
Ed Hawkins




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neat gondola load

Tim O'Connor
 


Re: F-70-7-- possible stand-in for C&EI?

Ed Hawkins
 

On Sep 21, 2008, at 7:02 AM, jerryglow2 wrote:

I found this old post of yours while gathering info to do my SP kit.
Are any decals suitable to do it as C&EI or can you provide a pic I
can
use to do artwork?

Jerry Glow
Jerry,
Red Caboose eventually produced the C&EI model, their catalogue no.
RR-32140 and RR-32141. They are presently shown on RC's web site as
being sold.
Regards,
Ed Hawkins


Re: F-70-7-- possible stand-in for C&EI?

jerryglow2
 

Sorry - I meant to send that direct to Ed.

Jerry Glow

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "jerryglow2" <jerryglow@...> wrote:

I found this old post of yours while gathering info to do my SP
kit.
Are any decals suitable to do it as C&EI or can you provide a pic I
can
use to do artwork?

Jerry Glow

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Ed Hawkins <hawk0621@> wrote:

The SP and C&EI cars are of the same design and are both included
on
the same AC&F general arrangement drawing. Last year I notified
Bill
McClung of Red Caboose about this and sent him a good scan of the
C&EI
car along with the painting specs. However, to date I've not seen
any
evidence of a C&EI model from RC.
Regards,
Ed Hawkins


Re: F-70-7-- possible stand-in for C&EI?

jerryglow2
 

I found this old post of yours while gathering info to do my SP kit.
Are any decals suitable to do it as C&EI or can you provide a pic I can
use to do artwork?

Jerry Glow

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Ed Hawkins <hawk0621@...> wrote:

The SP and C&EI cars are of the same design and are both included on
the same AC&F general arrangement drawing. Last year I notified Bill
McClung of Red Caboose about this and sent him a good scan of the
C&EI
car along with the painting specs. However, to date I've not seen any
evidence of a C&EI model from RC.
Regards,
Ed Hawkins


Items for sale

Rob Sarberenyi <espeef5@...>
 

I have several items posted on eBay that may be of interest....

An interesting booklet from the Nickel Plate's Industrial Development Dept.
published in June 1945, great for the modeler planning a layout and
operation
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=310085538931

This booklet published by the Reading in what appears to be the early 1950s
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=310085244056

Several HO scale PRR freight car decal sets from Middle Division
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=310085244021

Accu-Cal decals for New Haven locomotives
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=310085243703

and plenty more items listed to suit a wide variety of interests
http://stores.ebay.com/Espee-F-5

I'm out of town until Friday, but will answer any questions best as possible
from the road.

Thanks for looking!


Rob Sarberenyi
espeef5@pacbell.net


Re: Early train length laws

water.kresse@...
 

Brian,

It became interesting with join C&O-Chinchfield brouchers with I believe the Clinchfield going N-S and C&O going E-W but have coordinating fast freights No. 95 and No. 97 schedules. I might be wrong there about the Clinchfield.

Al Kresse

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From: "bflynnd1" <bflynn562@aol.com>
Al,
I don't know why they they listed the C&O as North and South lines, but
that is the way it is listed in the booklet.

Brian Flynn

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, water.kresse@... wrote:

Folks,

Good find. However, the C&O "officially" ran East-West. Does "C&O
line north" mean heading West or in the C&O Northern (Ohio) region? It
would be logical for the C&O to have longer sidings heading east (your
south ref) to Tidewater, and mostly downhill.

Al Kresse


Re: Early train length laws

bflynnd1
 

Al,
I don't know why they they listed the C&O as North and South lines, but
that is the way it is listed in the booklet.

Brian Flynn

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, water.kresse@... wrote:

Folks,

Good find. However, the C&O "officially" ran East-West. Does "C&O
line north" mean heading West or in the C&O Northern (Ohio) region? It
would be logical for the C&O to have longer sidings heading east (your
south ref) to Tidewater, and mostly downhill.

Al Kresse

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