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Re: For sale: Sunshine kits

Dennis Williams
 

I will take both.  Dennis

--- On Wed, 9/24/08, Brian Leppert <b.leppert@att.net> wrote:

From: Brian Leppert <b.leppert@att.net>
Subject: [STMFC] For sale: Sunshine kits
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, September 24, 2008, 8:07 AM






I have two different Sunshine Models HO Swift 37' Meat Reefer kits for
sale. $40.00 each, plus shipping

#24.3 5200 series, 1950-60s lettering
#24.6 6700 series, 1950-60s lettering

If interested, please contact me off-list at
b.leppert@att. net

Brian Leppert
Carson City, NV


















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Lost Naperville room mate

Andy Carlson
 

Staffan Ehnbom will not attend Naperville this year. I have a room for wed thru sat (in which I will NOT be selling anything this year) that I would like to share with another attendee. Anyone need a room? Prefer non-smoker.
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA


Re: BR&P

Eric Hansmann
 

--- Joel Norman wrote:

Gentleman:Was wondering if there is anyone in this group modeling or
has modeling data on the pre B&O BR&P Railroad?Im in the process of
building a new HO layout based on the BR&P(as if the B&O didnt take
over in 1931)line from Ashford Jct to Rochester(and the rail ferry
to Canada).........based somewhat on the ideas of the V&O.

=================================


Joel,

I've been a BR&P fan since I discovered the Paul Pietrak history of
the railroad back in 1976. Photographic coverage of the line in the
decade before B&O control is very hard to uncover. From what I can
gather, very little new rolling stock or locos were acquired in this
timeframe. The Van Swearingen brothers owned it for a portion of this
time, but it seems there were no upgrades similar to what they did
with the NKP, Erie and C&O. Bob Witt recommended the YahooGroups as
one starting point. I'd recommend the Pietrak book as another.

The railroad was owned by the Rochester & Pittsburgh Coal Company for
many years. The R&P company archives ended up at the Indiana
University of Pennsylvania library in the late 1980s. I do not know
how much has been cataloged, but it may be worth a check there. Of
course, these details would pre-date the B&O ownership by a number of
years.

Eric Hansmann
Morgantown, W. Va.


Re: Naperville

benjaminfrank_hom <b.hom@...>
 

Gene Deimling asked:
"Can you register for the Naperville meet at the door?"

Yes.

Ben Hom


Naperville

losgatos48@...
 

Group
I was asked by a member of my P48 Group a question regarding Naperville registration. The question is-
Can you register for the Naperville meet at the door?

Thanks,
Gene Deimling
Proto48 Modeler Group


For sale: Sunshine kits

Brian Leppert <b.leppert@...>
 

I have two different Sunshine Models HO Swift 37' Meat Reefer kits for
sale. $40.00 each, plus shipping

#24.3 5200 series, 1950-60s lettering
#24.6 6700 series, 1950-60s lettering

If interested, please contact me off-list at
b.leppert@att.net

Brian Leppert
Carson City, NV


Smoky Mtn. web site updated

Jim King
 

At the suggestion of Dick Karnes, I've uploaded all of my kit instructions
on their respective web page (go to the bottom of each page or each product
to see the appropriate links). All files are in Adobe PDF format. Some are
quite large .. in the 8-10 mb range, so folks with a dial-up connection may
have problems or, at least, have to wait a while for the file(s) to
download.



Jim King

Smoky Mountain Model Works, Inc.

www.smokymountainmodelworks.com


H&BTMRR Hoppers

Ed Walters
 

Hello folks,

Is there any chance anyone has any solid information on the Huntingdon
and Broad Top hoppers? I know they had some 8 panel channel sided
hoppers of 100,000lb capacity, with, I believe Andrews trucks. I have a
few photos of them taken after the railroad closed, but does anyone
know some dimensions of them, and their origin?

I haven't found any models that are a good representation of them, so I
think I'll have to resort to scratchbuilding.

Thanks in advance!

Ed


Re: BR&P

rwitt_2000
 

Joel Norman wrote:

Gentleman:Was wondering if there is anyone in this group modeling or
has modeling data on the pre B&O BR&P Railroad?Im in the process of
building a new HO layout based on the BR&P(as if the B&O didnt take
over in 1931)line from Ashford Jct to Rochester(and the rail ferry to
Canada).........based somewhat on the ideas of the V&O.

Joel,

You can start with two actions.

Join the B&O Yahoo Group ask your questions and search the archives for
"BR&P" and/or the "Buffalo Division". There are several BR&P experts in
this group.

http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/Baltimore_and_Ohio/

Visit the B&ORRHS web site and visit the Company Store as there are many
reprints of BR&P items prior to its acquisition by the B&O. Search the
categories with "BR&P".

http://www.borhs.org/

Regards,

Bob Witt


BR&P

joel norman <mec-bml@...>
 

Gentleman:Was wondering if there is anyone in this group modeling or
has modeling data on the pre B&O BR&P Railroad?Im in the process of
building a new HO layout based on the BR&P(as if the B&O didnt take
over in 1931)line from Ashford Jct to Rochester(and the rail ferry to
Canada).........based somewhat on the ideas of the V&O.
Hope you can help...
Joel Norman A&LO Rly


Re: The best lighting for kit-building.

Steve Lucas <stevelucas3@...>
 

I use a swing-arm fixture with a 13w compact flourescent lamp screwed
into it. The compact flourescent "bulb" gives off a lot less heat
than a standard light bulb.

So far, at the age of 48, I'm lucky enough not to need anything
brighter, but higher-wattage compact flourescents are readily
available.

Steve Lucas.

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, timboconnor@... wrote:

Denny

I don't know how "portable" you want, but I use swing-arm lights
that
clamp to my work table. These are 200w Halogens with a low-hi mode
switch. I also have a magnifier light that takes a compact
flourescent
(don't want to burn myself getting that close). Neither one cost
much,
I think I got them both at Staples. The Halogens are quite tall, so
the
top of my head doesn't get cooked...

Tim O'

-------------- Original message ----------------------
From: Denny Anspach <danspach@...>

I ask the good kit builders on this list what ideal portable
shadowless lighting, or lighting arrangements that they are
finding
ideal for their kit building work stations? Keep in mind that
older
eyes require higher light levels, and they are unable to
accommodate
to light level changes very well.

Denny


Re: The best lighting for kit-building.

Douglas Harding <dharding@...>
 

Denny, I also have one of the Ott-Lite, the one on the swing arm, it works great. I also have on my work bench two regular swing
arm lamp fixtures with "DayLight" brand curly bulbs that screw into a regular socket. Daylight is a brand from England that emits
a wonderful light similar to the Ott-Lite brand. They are available at Hobby Lobby, in the sewing section. While at Hobby Lobby,
in the same sewing section, look for Mag-Eyes - a magnifying device that is similar to an Opti-visior, but does not have the
"visor" effect. You can look up and over the Mag-Eyes to look at plans, the tool box, etc.

If you are still at Okoboji, come on over and I will show you what I used, down in my dark basement where there is no natural
lighting.

Doug Harding
www.iowacentralrr.org


Re: The best lighting for kit-building.

Jared Harper <harper-brown@...>
 

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Raymond Young <rayvirg@...> wrote:
A large desk-mounted magnifying glass supplements my Opti-Visor for
close-up work.


Without my Optivisor I would have to give up model railroading.
Jared Harper
Athens, GA


Re: neat gondola load

Dennis Storzek
 

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Manfred Lorenz" <germanfred55@...> wrote:

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@> wrote:

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2006-1/1137438/f991.jpg
Looks like the springs are bottoming out. Is that legal?

Manfred
But they're not… I can still see space between the coils.

The October 1970 ORER shows WM 55262 (if I read that correctly) has a
capacity of 154,000 lbs, which is what I think I read on the car side.
UTLX 48994 has a capacity of 100,000 lbs, and a tare weight of 47,000
and change. Even if the tankcar is fully loaded, it is well within the
capacity of the gon. So what's the problem?

Dennis


Re: F-70-7-- possible stand-in for C&EI?

Gatwood, Elden J SAD
 

Thanks, Ben. Is that C&EI box still available; I do not see it on Des
Plaines' website.



Thanks!



Elden Gatwood



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From: STMFC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:STMFC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
benjaminfrank_hom
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 8:58 AM
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [STMFC] Re: F-70-7-- possible stand-in for C&EI?



Elden Gatwood asked:
"I do not know the details of what you are talking about, but sure
would. What, exactly, does this Des Plaines kit model? And you say
they are still available? Why have I not seen them on their website?"

Armand has unecessarily muddied the waters on this one. The Des
Plaines kit has absolutely NOTHING to do with the subject line. It's
a model of C&EI 64000-64499, pre-war AAR boxcars with Viking roofs.
The model is a Red Caboose (ex-IMWX) pre-war AAR boxcar with a new
roof casting. More details on the prototype can be found on this
table:
http://www.steamfreightcars.com/prototype/frtcars/1937aarpdfmain.html
<http://www.steamfreightcars.com/prototype/frtcars/1937aarpdfmain.html>

"And what was this earlier C&EI kit from RC?"

This is the car in the original message in this thread - it's a group
of SP Class F-70-7 "look-alike" flats owned by the C&EI that Red
Caboose is offering on their HO scale F-70-7 models. Their website
has not been updated to include the F-70-7 in the HO scale kit
listings.

Ben Hom


Re: neat gondola load

Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
 

Manfred Lorenz wrote:
Looks like the springs are bottoming out. Is that legal?
I'm sure it's legal but not a good idea for the sake of the car structure. The engineering term for that is, springs have "gone solid," which neatly explains why they are no longer springs when in that condition.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@signaturepress.com
Publishers of books on railroad history


Re: IM 12 panel box car ends (was youngstown 4/6/6 doors)

Andy Carlson
 

I recall back to the days of these car's first releases. The GN (and SP&S) cars were the first ones released. The ends supplied with these cars were attached to the feeder sprues with gates on the "riveted" edge. The SP release followed with a new end- one that had the different top rib treatment. This end is noted in that the gates came in from the bottom end sill, and the edges were free of any gates. I noticed that later runs of the GN cars seemed to use either version end. At the time I thought the first version (GN) had better rib shape but poorer edge treatment. The later end had improved rib termination, but the rib itself was not as good as the earlier end.
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA

--- On Mon, 9/22/08, Matt Sugerman <camas74@yahoo.com> wrote:

I noticed that Intermountain had two different ends
also...Any idea why the change??? There
were certainly more GN and SP&S cars that were built
with the "skinny rib" EID end...


Re: The best lighting for kit-building.

Tim O'Connor
 

Denny

I don't know how "portable" you want, but I use swing-arm lights that
clamp to my work table. These are 200w Halogens with a low-hi mode
switch. I also have a magnifier light that takes a compact flourescent
(don't want to burn myself getting that close). Neither one cost much,
I think I got them both at Staples. The Halogens are quite tall, so the
top of my head doesn't get cooked...

Tim O'

-------------- Original message ----------------------
From: Denny Anspach <danspach@macnexus.org>

I ask the good kit builders on this list what ideal portable
shadowless lighting, or lighting arrangements that they are finding
ideal for their kit building work stations? Keep in mind that older
eyes require higher light levels, and they are unable to accommodate
to light level changes very well.

Denny


Re: The best lighting for kit-building.

Tim O'Connor
 

Ott lights are just full-spectrum bulbs. I have one too, a small flip-open
desk light. Such bulbs are easy to find nowadays for almost any ordinary
flourescent fixture. I prefer 'indoor' flourescents that skew the light more
towards the red end of the spectrum.

-------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "jerryglow2" <jerryglow@comcast.net>
I used to host a small group of modelers to meet at my shop, go out
to dinner, then come back to build our own models at "work stations"
around the room. One of them brought his own Ott light in a briefcase
and set it up for himself. I believe these are available commercially
and the bulb itself from Champ Decals.

Jerry Glow


Re: F-70-7-- possible stand-in for C&EI?

armprem
 

BEN,My mother always told me to stay in my own backyard.Perhaps I should have listened.BTW....My Company Coal Reports Please.Armand Premo

----- Original Message -----
From: "benjaminfrank_hom" <b.hom@worldnet.att.net>
To: <STMFC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 8:58 AM
Subject: [STMFC] Re: F-70-7-- possible stand-in for C&EI?


Elden Gatwood asked:
"I do not know the details of what you are talking about, but sure
would. What, exactly, does this Des Plaines kit model? And you say
they are still available? Why have I not seen them on their website?"

Armand has unecessarily muddied the waters on this one. The Des
Plaines kit has absolutely NOTHING to do with the subject line. It's
a model of C&EI 64000-64499, pre-war AAR boxcars with Viking roofs.
The model is a Red Caboose (ex-IMWX) pre-war AAR boxcar with a new
roof casting. More details on the prototype can be found on this
table:
http://www.steamfreightcars.com/prototype/frtcars/1937aarpdfmain.html


"And what was this earlier C&EI kit from RC?"

This is the car in the original message in this thread - it's a group
of SP Class F-70-7 "look-alike" flats owned by the C&EI that Red
Caboose is offering on their HO scale F-70-7 models. Their website
has not been updated to include the F-70-7 in the HO scale kit
listings.


Ben Hom


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