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Re: Pabst at the lettuce farm, 1931

Ron Smith <rpsmith@...>
 

Nice Pics, but that is not Monroe, Washington. Web Page says Monroe, Ca, (California), but label on Pic says Monroe, Wn, (Wisconson).
Ron Smith
Carman, UPRR

----- Original Message -----
From: al_brown03
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2008 8:30 AM
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Pabst at the lettuce farm, 1931


FGEX, BREX, and WFEX cars were pooled. No more surprising to see FGEX
cars on the GN than WFEX or BREX cars in Florida, which also commonly
happened. See Bill Welch's essays for more detail.

Al Brown, Melbourne, Fla.

--- In STMFC@..., water.kresse@... wrote:
>
> Paul,
>
> Great images! Semi-surprised to see FGE cars way out west.
>
> Why such a coarse (200 dpi) scanning rate? Hopefully, they are
also doing Archival Quality scanning at 400-600 dpi and in TIFF
formating (folks will want to crop and resize up, and still have 300
dpi left for a publication). These won't stay around for ever before
they fall apart.
>
> Al Kresse
>
> -------------- Original message --------------
> From: "Paul Krueger" <kruegerp@...>
> Here is a picture taken from the icing platform at a lettuce farm in
> Monroe, WA. Can't see much of the car sides, but there is clearly a
> Pabst car mixed in there. Incoming load?
>
> http://content.lib.washington.edu/cdm4/item_viewer.php?
CISOROOT=/pickett&CISOPTR=1302&CISOBOX=1&REC=16
>
> Two more related shots
> http://content.lib.washington.edu/cdm4/item_viewer.php?
CISOROOT=/pickett&CISOPTR=1411&CISOBOX=1&REC=17
>
> http://content.lib.washington.edu/cdm4/item_viewer.php?
CISOROOT=/pickett&CISOPTR=1351&CISOBOX=1&REC=17
>
> Paul
> Seattle, WA
>
>
>
>
>
>


Re: Pabst at the lettuce farm, 1931

al_brown03
 

FGEX, BREX, and WFEX cars were pooled. No more surprising to see FGEX
cars on the GN than WFEX or BREX cars in Florida, which also commonly
happened. See Bill Welch's essays for more detail.

Al Brown, Melbourne, Fla.


--- In STMFC@..., water.kresse@... wrote:

Paul,

Great images! Semi-surprised to see FGE cars way out west.

Why such a coarse (200 dpi) scanning rate? Hopefully, they are
also doing Archival Quality scanning at 400-600 dpi and in TIFF
formating (folks will want to crop and resize up, and still have 300
dpi left for a publication). These won't stay around for ever before
they fall apart.

Al Kresse

-------------- Original message --------------
From: "Paul Krueger" <kruegerp@...>
Here is a picture taken from the icing platform at a lettuce farm in
Monroe, WA. Can't see much of the car sides, but there is clearly a
Pabst car mixed in there. Incoming load?

http://content.lib.washington.edu/cdm4/item_viewer.php?
CISOROOT=/pickett&CISOPTR=1302&CISOBOX=1&REC=16

Two more related shots
http://content.lib.washington.edu/cdm4/item_viewer.php?
CISOROOT=/pickett&CISOPTR=1411&CISOBOX=1&REC=17

http://content.lib.washington.edu/cdm4/item_viewer.php?
CISOROOT=/pickett&CISOPTR=1351&CISOBOX=1&REC=17

Paul
Seattle, WA




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Re: Pabst at the lettuce farm, 1931

water.kresse@...
 

Paul,

Great images! Semi-surprised to see FGE cars way out west.

Why such a coarse (200 dpi) scanning rate? Hopefully, they are also doing Archival Quality scanning at 400-600 dpi and in TIFF formating (folks will want to crop and resize up, and still have 300 dpi left for a publication). These won't stay around for ever before they fall apart.

Al Kresse

-------------- Original message --------------
From: "Paul Krueger" <kruegerp@...>
Here is a picture taken from the icing platform at a lettuce farm in
Monroe, WA. Can't see much of the car sides, but there is clearly a
Pabst car mixed in there. Incoming load?

http://content.lib.washington.edu/cdm4/item_viewer.php?CISOROOT=/pickett&CISOPTR=1302&CISOBOX=1&REC=16

Two more related shots
http://content.lib.washington.edu/cdm4/item_viewer.php?CISOROOT=/pickett&CISOPTR=1411&CISOBOX=1&REC=17

http://content.lib.washington.edu/cdm4/item_viewer.php?CISOROOT=/pickett&CISOPTR=1351&CISOBOX=1&REC=17

Paul
Seattle, WA


Pabst at the lettuce farm, 1931

Paul Krueger <kruegerp@...>
 

Here is a picture taken from the icing platform at a lettuce farm in
Monroe, WA. Can't see much of the car sides, but there is clearly a
Pabst car mixed in there. Incoming load?

http://content.lib.washington.edu/cdm4/item_viewer.php?CISOROOT=/pickett&CISOPTR=1302&CISOBOX=1&REC=16

Two more related shots
http://content.lib.washington.edu/cdm4/item_viewer.php?CISOROOT=/pickett&CISOPTR=1411&CISOBOX=1&REC=17

http://content.lib.washington.edu/cdm4/item_viewer.php?CISOROOT=/pickett&CISOPTR=1351&CISOBOX=1&REC=17

Paul
Seattle, WA


Re: ARA 1932 Box Cars; an HO Scale Atlas model - comments

Charlie Duckworth <trduck@...>
 

I just received the I-GN version of the Atlas car, nice model. For
someone in the throws of working on a prototype layout and working
full
time I was gave to see these come out. For years I avoided the built
up models as building was part of the fun in the hobby for me but like
every thing else in life it gets down to time management and do you
build structures, put in scenery or tackle the pile of resin kits?
Mopac had 3,000 of the 1932 boxcars so I need to have a few of these
on
my Mopac layout and Atlas made the kit decision easy - they aren't
offering a kit version.

Eric's comments on the tack boards on the doors are correct - they
appear to be too long and should be three boards not two. Lettering
is sharp. On mine the roof walk boards bow up slightly on the ends.
They could have left off the large 'Made in China' on the bottom, I
don't need to be reminded were our money is going now days.

I did send Atlas information on the 'Route of the Eagles' scheme
telling them this paint scheme would appeal to a wider audience. We'll
see what they do.

Charlie


Re: Pabst at the lettuce farm, 1931

Guy Wilber
 

In a message dated 9/27/2008 10:50:07 AM Central Daylight Time,
rpsmith@... writes:

Nice Pics, but that is not Monroe, Washington. Web Page says Monroe, Ca,
(California)Nice Pics, but that is not Monroe, Washington.


It's Monroe, Washington (circa 1931).

Regards,

Guy Wilber
West Bend, WI





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Re: 53 1/2ft gonThrall Car

csxt5555
 

Were there any built on or by another builder in the late 50's?  I aam trying to find out the earliest production of these type gons.  Here is a builders pic I have from late 60's
 
 

 
 
 
-Kevin

--- On Fri, 9/26/08, Gatwood, Elden J SAD <elden.j.gatwood@...> wrote:

From: Gatwood, Elden J SAD <elden.j.gatwood@...>
Subject: RE: [STMFC] 53 1/2ft gonThrall Car
To: STMFC@...
Date: Friday, September 26, 2008, 2:31 PM






Kevin;

The first ones I remember seeing that looked like that were 1967 or so. I
think they were either NYC or P&LE.

Elden Gatwood

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From: STMFC@yahoogroups. com [mailto:STMFC@yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Kevin
Sprayberry
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 2:27 PM
To: STMFC@yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [STMFC] 53 1/2ft gonThrall Car

Well, I would like to know which roads had them, But my real question is do
these cars fit into the steam era or were they to late. When were the first
ones built?

-Kevin

--- On Fri, 9/26/08, water.kresse@ comcast.net
<mailto:water. kresse%40comcast .net> <water.kresse@ comcast.net
<mailto:water. kresse%40comcast .net> > wrote:

From: water.kresse@ comcast.net <mailto:water. kresse%40comcast .net>
<water.kresse@ comcast.net <mailto:water. kresse%40comcast .net> >
Subject: Re: [STMFC] 53 1/2ft gonThrall Car
To: STMFC@yahoogroups. com <mailto:STMFC% 40yahoogroups. com>
Date: Friday, September 26, 2008, 2:12 PM

Which railroads had them?

C&O/B&O bought Thrall box car kits for DuBois in the late-60s.
.

Al Kresse

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From: "csxt5555" <csxt5555@yahoo. com>
Can somebody shed some light on the Thrall Car 53 1/2 ft gon? These
cars were welded had 14 ribs and I believe they were produced around
1960?? Was this car produced any earlier than this? Does anyone know
if there was a preceeding model with the same basic design that will
fit into the late steam era?

Thanks
Kevin

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Re: 53 1/2ft gonThrall Car

Gatwood, Elden J SAD
 

Kevin;



The first ones I remember seeing that looked like that were 1967 or so. I
think they were either NYC or P&LE.



Elden Gatwood



________________________________

From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of Kevin
Sprayberry
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 2:27 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: Re: [STMFC] 53 1/2ft gonThrall Car



Well, I would like to know which roads had them, But my real question is do
these cars fit into the steam era or were they to late. When were the first
ones built?

-Kevin

--- On Fri, 9/26/08, water.kresse@...
<mailto:water.kresse%40comcast.net> <water.kresse@...
<mailto:water.kresse%40comcast.net> > wrote:

From: water.kresse@... <mailto:water.kresse%40comcast.net>
<water.kresse@... <mailto:water.kresse%40comcast.net> >
Subject: Re: [STMFC] 53 1/2ft gonThrall Car
To: STMFC@... <mailto:STMFC%40yahoogroups.com>
Date: Friday, September 26, 2008, 2:12 PM

Which railroads had them?

C&O/B&O bought Thrall box car kits for DuBois in the late-60s.
.

Al Kresse

------------ -- Original message ------------ --
From: "csxt5555" <csxt5555@yahoo. com>
Can somebody shed some light on the Thrall Car 53 1/2 ft gon? These
cars were welded had 14 ribs and I believe they were produced around
1960?? Was this car produced any earlier than this? Does anyone know
if there was a preceeding model with the same basic design that will
fit into the late steam era?

Thanks
Kevin


Re: 53 1/2ft gonThrall Car

csxt5555
 

Well, I would like to know which roads had them,  But my real question is do these cars fit into the steam era or were they to late.  When were the first ones built?
 
-Kevin

--- On Fri, 9/26/08, water.kresse@... <water.kresse@...> wrote:

From: water.kresse@... <water.kresse@...>
Subject: Re: [STMFC] 53 1/2ft gonThrall Car
To: STMFC@...
Date: Friday, September 26, 2008, 2:12 PM






Which railroads had them?

C&O/B&O bought Thrall box car kits for DuBois in the late-60s.
.

Al Kresse

------------ -- Original message ------------ --
From: "csxt5555" <csxt5555@yahoo. com>
Can somebody shed some light on the Thrall Car 53 1/2 ft gon? These
cars were welded had 14 ribs and I believe they were produced around
1960?? Was this car produced any earlier than this? Does anyone know
if there was a preceeding model with the same basic design that will
fit into the late steam era?

Thanks
Kevin

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Re: 53 1/2ft gonThrall Car

water.kresse@...
 

Which railroads had them?

C&O/B&O bought Thrall box car kits for DuBois in the late-60s.
.

Al Kresse

-------------- Original message --------------
From: "csxt5555" <csxt5555@...>
Can somebody shed some light on the Thrall Car 53 1/2 ft gon? These
cars were welded had 14 ribs and I believe they were produced around
1960?? Was this car produced any earlier than this? Does anyone know
if there was a preceeding model with the same basic design that will
fit into the late steam era?

Thanks
Kevin


53 1/2ft gonThrall Car

csxt5555
 

Can somebody shed some light on the Thrall Car 53 1/2 ft gon? These
cars were welded had 14 ribs and I believe they were produced around
1960?? Was this car produced any earlier than this? Does anyone know
if there was a preceeding model with the same basic design that will
fit into the late steam era?

Thanks
Kevin


Re: BR&P

anthony wagner
 

I too have Pietrak's book and from what I read just recently it appears that there was a bidding war going on between several roads after WWI to make the BR&P part of a larger system. The B&O finally won, but I can imagine that while it was going on money was spent on only the most necessary items to avoid driving up the cost to whichever road finally acquired it.

--- On Wed, 9/24/08, Eric Hansmann <eric@...> wrote:
From: Eric Hansmann <eric@...>
Subject: [STMFC] Re: BR&P
To: STMFC@...
Date: Wednesday, September 24, 2008, 11:26 AM











--- Joel Norman wrote:

Gentleman:Was wondering if there is anyone in this group modeling or
has modeling data on the pre B&O BR&P Railroad?Im in the process of
building a new HO layout based on the BR&P(as if the B&O didnt take
over in 1931)line from Ashford Jct to Rochester(and the rail ferry
to Canada)..... ....based somewhat on the ideas of the V&O.



============ ========= ========= ===



Joel,



I've been a BR&P fan since I discovered the Paul Pietrak history of

the railroad back in 1976. Photographic coverage of the line in the

decade before B&O control is very hard to uncover. From what I can

gather, very little new rolling stock or locos were acquired in this

timeframe. The Van Swearingen brothers owned it for a portion of this

time, but it seems there were no upgrades similar to what they did

with the NKP, Erie and C&O. Bob Witt recommended the YahooGroups as

one starting point. I'd recommend the Pietrak book as another.



The railroad was owned by the Rochester & Pittsburgh Coal Company for

many years. The R&P company archives ended up at the Indiana

University of Pennsylvania library in the late 1980s. I do not know

how much has been cataloged, but it may be worth a check there. Of

course, these details would pre-date the B&O ownership by a number of

years.



Eric Hansmann

Morgantown, W. Va.


























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The Seaboard-Coast Line Modeler

golden1014
 

Gentlemen,
 
The latest edition of The Seaboard-Coast Line Modeler is now available on the ACL & SAL Historical Society website at http://s-clmodeler.aclsal.org/currentissue/sclmodv2n3f.pdf
 
You can also access the magazine through the ACL & SAL HS home page at http://www.aclsal.org/ .  From there, scroll down on the left to find the green tabs where you will find the S-CL Modeler link (http://s-clmodeler.aclsal.org/index.htm).  Click the link and that'll take you to the S-CL Modeler site.  From there, you can upload the magazine or view it online--your choice.
 
We had some difficulty compressing this particular issue down to a manageable size, so please be advised that this issue is posted at ~24 megabytes. 
 
As always, we appreciate your helpful feedback so we can make our magazine better.  We're continuously looking for articles, features, model photos and other contributions, so if you'd like to write something or contribute a photo please contact us and we'll get it in. If you've never written an article and would like to give it a try, we have a staff of great guys standing by to help you get started.  
 
Enjoy!
 
Yours Very Truly,
John
 
John Golden
Bloomington, IN

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Re: ADMIN: Re: For sale: Sunshine kits

Dennis Williams
 

I'm sorry for the double post. I forgot that I was still on the forum.  Will not happen again.  Dennis

--- On Wed, 9/24/08, Mike Brock <brockm@...> wrote:

From: Mike Brock <brockm@...>
Subject: ADMIN: Re: [STMFC] For sale: Sunshine kits
To: STMFC@...
Date: Wednesday, September 24, 2008, 5:06 PM






Dennis Leppert writes:

"I will take both. Any more?? Dennis

--- On Wed, 9/24/08, Brian Leppert <b.leppert@att. net> wrote:

From: Brian Leppert <b.leppert@att. net>
Subject: [STMFC] For sale: Sunshine kits
To: STMFC@yahoogroups. com
Date: Wednesday, September 24, 2008, 8:07 AM

I have two different Sunshine Models HO Swift 37' Meat Reefer kits for
sale. $40.00 each, plus shipping

#24.3 5200 series, 1950-60s lettering
#24.6 6700 series, 1950-60s lettering

If interested, please contact me off-list at
b.leppert@att. net"

Note that Brian said "please contact me off-list"

Dennis replied not once but twice through the STMFC. I can understand making
errors...I do enough to excuse them...but this is the reason why we made the
rule NOT to allow presenting lists of items to sell on the STMFC. If this
type of reply continues... and I'm certain that it will...listing items to
sell will again be prohibited.

Mike Brock
STMFC Owner


















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Re: The best lighting for kit-building.

lnnrr <lnnrr@...>
 

--- In STMFC@..., Denny Anspach <danspach@...> wrote:
Denny, I use a clamp-on magnifying lamp of the sort that has
a circular fluorescent blub around the lens. As nearly shadow-free
as you can ask. A 60W halogen stands off to one side for those
extra-bright moments and sometimes I use it as a side-light under
the main lens. Both came from a sewing store.
I find that at my post-retirement age, a goodly amount of general
room lights is also needful. Otherwise when I need to look away from
the workbench, I waste time waiting for eyes to adjust.
I also have a special set of workbench glasses, apart from my regular
reading glasses. The workbench glasses are the same prescription
on top as my reading glasses are on the bottom. The lower part of
the workbench glasses are extra close focus. Not to replace
Opti-visors, but just to get closer than my readers allow. Like
checking to make sure your airline anglecock brackets are properly
bolted in place. (GRIN)
Chuck Peck
A continuing problem that increasingly plagues my modeling is
poor
lighting- lighting that no matter how bright creates blinding
shadows
and stark contrasts that commonly stretches 5 minute tasks into
maddening and quite tedious marathons.

I ask the good kit builders on this list what ideal portable
shadowless lighting, or lighting arrangements that they are
finding
ideal for their kit building work stations? Keep in mind that
older
eyes require higher light levels, and they are unable to
accommodate
to light level changes very well.

Denny

Denny S. Anspach MD
Okoboji, IA


Re: AAR Car Code Question

Bruce Smith
 

On Wed, September 24, 2008 8:00 pm, Tom in Texas wrote:
I apologize if this is off list, but I haven't been able to find an AAR
car code for the ore cars like those used by the DM&IR

Thanks in advance,

Tom in Texas
Tom,

According to the 1943 ORER, the DM&IR's cars were class HMA.

Regards
Bruce

Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL


AAR Car Code Question

Tom in Texas
 

I apologize if this is off list, but I haven't been able to find an AAR
car code for the ore cars like those used by the DM&IR

Thanks in advance,

Tom in Texas


ADMIN: Re: For sale: Sunshine kits

Mike Brock <brockm@...>
 

Dennis Leppert writes:

"I will take both. Any more?? Dennis

--- On Wed, 9/24/08, Brian Leppert <b.leppert@...> wrote:

From: Brian Leppert <b.leppert@...>
Subject: [STMFC] For sale: Sunshine kits
To: STMFC@...
Date: Wednesday, September 24, 2008, 8:07 AM

I have two different Sunshine Models HO Swift 37' Meat Reefer kits for
sale. $40.00 each, plus shipping

#24.3 5200 series, 1950-60s lettering
#24.6 6700 series, 1950-60s lettering

If interested, please contact me off-list at
b.leppert@att. net"

Note that Brian said "please contact me off-list"

Dennis replied not once but twice through the STMFC. I can understand making errors...I do enough to excuse them...but this is the reason why we made the rule NOT to allow presenting lists of items to sell on the STMFC. If this type of reply continues...and I'm certain that it will...listing items to sell will again be prohibited.

Mike Brock
STMFC Owner


Re: For sale: Sunshine kits

Dennis Williams
 

I will take both.  Any more?? Dennis

--- On Wed, 9/24/08, Brian Leppert <b.leppert@...> wrote:

From: Brian Leppert <b.leppert@...>
Subject: [STMFC] For sale: Sunshine kits
To: STMFC@...
Date: Wednesday, September 24, 2008, 8:07 AM






I have two different Sunshine Models HO Swift 37' Meat Reefer kits for
sale. $40.00 each, plus shipping

#24.3 5200 series, 1950-60s lettering
#24.6 6700 series, 1950-60s lettering

If interested, please contact me off-list at
b.leppert@att. net

Brian Leppert
Carson City, NV


















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Re: For sale: Sunshine kits

Dennis Williams
 

I will take both.  Dennis

--- On Wed, 9/24/08, Brian Leppert <b.leppert@...> wrote:

From: Brian Leppert <b.leppert@...>
Subject: [STMFC] For sale: Sunshine kits
To: STMFC@...
Date: Wednesday, September 24, 2008, 8:07 AM






I have two different Sunshine Models HO Swift 37' Meat Reefer kits for
sale. $40.00 each, plus shipping

#24.3 5200 series, 1950-60s lettering
#24.6 6700 series, 1950-60s lettering

If interested, please contact me off-list at
b.leppert@att. net

Brian Leppert
Carson City, NV


















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