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Re: Pabst at the lettuce farm, 1931
Ron Smith <rpsmith@...>
Nice Pics, but that is not Monroe, Washington. Web Page says Monroe, Ca, (California), but label on Pic says Monroe, Wn, (Wisconson).
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Ron Smith Carman, UPRR
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From: al_brown03 To: STMFC@... Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2008 8:30 AM Subject: [STMFC] Re: Pabst at the lettuce farm, 1931 FGEX, BREX, and WFEX cars were pooled. No more surprising to see FGEX cars on the GN than WFEX or BREX cars in Florida, which also commonly happened. See Bill Welch's essays for more detail. Al Brown, Melbourne, Fla. --- In STMFC@..., water.kresse@... wrote: > > Paul, > > Great images! Semi-surprised to see FGE cars way out west. > > Why such a coarse (200 dpi) scanning rate? Hopefully, they are also doing Archival Quality scanning at 400-600 dpi and in TIFF formating (folks will want to crop and resize up, and still have 300 dpi left for a publication). These won't stay around for ever before they fall apart. > > Al Kresse > > -------------- Original message -------------- > From: "Paul Krueger" <kruegerp@...> > Here is a picture taken from the icing platform at a lettuce farm in > Monroe, WA. Can't see much of the car sides, but there is clearly a > Pabst car mixed in there. Incoming load? > > http://content.lib.washington.edu/cdm4/item_viewer.php? CISOROOT=/pickett&CISOPTR=1302&CISOBOX=1&REC=16 > > Two more related shots > http://content.lib.washington.edu/cdm4/item_viewer.php? CISOROOT=/pickett&CISOPTR=1411&CISOBOX=1&REC=17 > > http://content.lib.washington.edu/cdm4/item_viewer.php? CISOROOT=/pickett&CISOPTR=1351&CISOBOX=1&REC=17 > > Paul > Seattle, WA > > > > > >
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Re: Pabst at the lettuce farm, 1931
al_brown03
FGEX, BREX, and WFEX cars were pooled. No more surprising to see FGEX
cars on the GN than WFEX or BREX cars in Florida, which also commonly happened. See Bill Welch's essays for more detail. Al Brown, Melbourne, Fla. --- In STMFC@..., water.kresse@... wrote: also doing Archival Quality scanning at 400-600 dpi and in TIFF formating (folks will want to crop and resize up, and still have 300 dpi left for a publication). These won't stay around for ever before they fall apart. CISOROOT=/pickett&CISOPTR=1302&CISOBOX=1&REC=16 CISOROOT=/pickett&CISOPTR=1411&CISOBOX=1&REC=17 CISOROOT=/pickett&CISOPTR=1351&CISOBOX=1&REC=17
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Re: Pabst at the lettuce farm, 1931
water.kresse@...
Paul,
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Great images! Semi-surprised to see FGE cars way out west. Why such a coarse (200 dpi) scanning rate? Hopefully, they are also doing Archival Quality scanning at 400-600 dpi and in TIFF formating (folks will want to crop and resize up, and still have 300 dpi left for a publication). These won't stay around for ever before they fall apart. Al Kresse
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From: "Paul Krueger" <kruegerp@...> Here is a picture taken from the icing platform at a lettuce farm in Monroe, WA. Can't see much of the car sides, but there is clearly a Pabst car mixed in there. Incoming load? http://content.lib.washington.edu/cdm4/item_viewer.php?CISOROOT=/pickett&CISOPTR=1302&CISOBOX=1&REC=16 Two more related shots http://content.lib.washington.edu/cdm4/item_viewer.php?CISOROOT=/pickett&CISOPTR=1411&CISOBOX=1&REC=17 http://content.lib.washington.edu/cdm4/item_viewer.php?CISOROOT=/pickett&CISOPTR=1351&CISOBOX=1&REC=17 Paul Seattle, WA
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Pabst at the lettuce farm, 1931
Paul Krueger <kruegerp@...>
Here is a picture taken from the icing platform at a lettuce farm in
Monroe, WA. Can't see much of the car sides, but there is clearly a Pabst car mixed in there. Incoming load? http://content.lib.washington.edu/cdm4/item_viewer.php?CISOROOT=/pickett&CISOPTR=1302&CISOBOX=1&REC=16 Two more related shots http://content.lib.washington.edu/cdm4/item_viewer.php?CISOROOT=/pickett&CISOPTR=1411&CISOBOX=1&REC=17 http://content.lib.washington.edu/cdm4/item_viewer.php?CISOROOT=/pickett&CISOPTR=1351&CISOBOX=1&REC=17 Paul Seattle, WA
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Re: ARA 1932 Box Cars; an HO Scale Atlas model - comments
Charlie Duckworth <trduck@...>
I just received the I-GN version of the Atlas car, nice model. For
someone in the throws of working on a prototype layout and working full time I was gave to see these come out. For years I avoided the built up models as building was part of the fun in the hobby for me but like every thing else in life it gets down to time management and do you build structures, put in scenery or tackle the pile of resin kits? Mopac had 3,000 of the 1932 boxcars so I need to have a few of these on my Mopac layout and Atlas made the kit decision easy - they aren't offering a kit version. Eric's comments on the tack boards on the doors are correct - they appear to be too long and should be three boards not two. Lettering is sharp. On mine the roof walk boards bow up slightly on the ends. They could have left off the large 'Made in China' on the bottom, I don't need to be reminded were our money is going now days. I did send Atlas information on the 'Route of the Eagles' scheme telling them this paint scheme would appeal to a wider audience. We'll see what they do. Charlie
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Re: Pabst at the lettuce farm, 1931
Guy Wilber
In a message dated 9/27/2008 10:50:07 AM Central Daylight Time,
rpsmith@... writes: Nice Pics, but that is not Monroe, Washington. Web Page says Monroe, Ca, (California)Nice Pics, but that is not Monroe, Washington. It's Monroe, Washington (circa 1931). Regards, Guy Wilber West Bend, WI **************Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001)
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Re: 53 1/2ft gonThrall Car
csxt5555
Were there any built on or by another builder in the late 50's? I aam trying to find out the earliest production of these type gons. Here is a builders pic I have from late 60's
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-Kevin
--- On Fri, 9/26/08, Gatwood, Elden J SAD <elden.j.gatwood@...> wrote:
From: Gatwood, Elden J SAD <elden.j.gatwood@...> Subject: RE: [STMFC] 53 1/2ft gonThrall Car To: STMFC@... Date: Friday, September 26, 2008, 2:31 PM Kevin; The first ones I remember seeing that looked like that were 1967 or so. I think they were either NYC or P&LE. Elden Gatwood ____________ _________ _________ __ From: STMFC@yahoogroups. com [mailto:STMFC@yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Kevin Sprayberry Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 2:27 PM To: STMFC@yahoogroups. com Subject: Re: [STMFC] 53 1/2ft gonThrall Car Well, I would like to know which roads had them, But my real question is do these cars fit into the steam era or were they to late. When were the first ones built? -Kevin --- On Fri, 9/26/08, water.kresse@ comcast.net <mailto:water. kresse%40comcast .net> <water.kresse@ comcast.net <mailto:water. kresse%40comcast .net> > wrote: From: water.kresse@ comcast.net <mailto:water. kresse%40comcast .net> <water.kresse@ comcast.net <mailto:water. kresse%40comcast .net> > Subject: Re: [STMFC] 53 1/2ft gonThrall Car To: STMFC@yahoogroups. com <mailto:STMFC% 40yahoogroups. com> Date: Friday, September 26, 2008, 2:12 PM Which railroads had them? C&O/B&O bought Thrall box car kits for DuBois in the late-60s. . Al Kresse ------------ -- Original message ------------ -- From: "csxt5555" <csxt5555@yahoo. com> Can somebody shed some light on the Thrall Car 53 1/2 ft gon? These cars were welded had 14 ribs and I believe they were produced around 1960?? Was this car produced any earlier than this? Does anyone know if there was a preceeding model with the same basic design that will fit into the late steam era? Thanks Kevin [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: 53 1/2ft gonThrall Car
Gatwood, Elden J SAD
Kevin;
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The first ones I remember seeing that looked like that were 1967 or so. I think they were either NYC or P&LE. Elden Gatwood ________________________________ From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of Kevin Sprayberry Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 2:27 PM To: STMFC@... Subject: Re: [STMFC] 53 1/2ft gonThrall Car Well, I would like to know which roads had them, But my real question is do these cars fit into the steam era or were they to late. When were the first ones built? -Kevin --- On Fri, 9/26/08, water.kresse@... <mailto:water.kresse%40comcast.net> <water.kresse@... <mailto:water.kresse%40comcast.net> > wrote: From: water.kresse@... <mailto:water.kresse%40comcast.net> <water.kresse@... <mailto:water.kresse%40comcast.net> > Subject: Re: [STMFC] 53 1/2ft gonThrall Car To: STMFC@... <mailto:STMFC%40yahoogroups.com> Date: Friday, September 26, 2008, 2:12 PM Which railroads had them? C&O/B&O bought Thrall box car kits for DuBois in the late-60s. . Al Kresse
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From: "csxt5555" <csxt5555@yahoo. com> Can somebody shed some light on the Thrall Car 53 1/2 ft gon? These cars were welded had 14 ribs and I believe they were produced around 1960?? Was this car produced any earlier than this? Does anyone know if there was a preceeding model with the same basic design that will fit into the late steam era? Thanks Kevin
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Re: 53 1/2ft gonThrall Car
csxt5555
Well, I would like to know which roads had them, But my real question is do these cars fit into the steam era or were they to late. When were the first ones built?
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-Kevin
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From: water.kresse@... <water.kresse@...> Subject: Re: [STMFC] 53 1/2ft gonThrall Car To: STMFC@... Date: Friday, September 26, 2008, 2:12 PM Which railroads had them? C&O/B&O bought Thrall box car kits for DuBois in the late-60s. . Al Kresse ------------ -- Original message ------------ -- From: "csxt5555" <csxt5555@yahoo. com> Can somebody shed some light on the Thrall Car 53 1/2 ft gon? These cars were welded had 14 ribs and I believe they were produced around 1960?? Was this car produced any earlier than this? Does anyone know if there was a preceeding model with the same basic design that will fit into the late steam era? Thanks Kevin [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: 53 1/2ft gonThrall Car
water.kresse@...
Which railroads had them?
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C&O/B&O bought Thrall box car kits for DuBois in the late-60s. . Al Kresse
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From: "csxt5555" <csxt5555@...> Can somebody shed some light on the Thrall Car 53 1/2 ft gon? These cars were welded had 14 ribs and I believe they were produced around 1960?? Was this car produced any earlier than this? Does anyone know if there was a preceeding model with the same basic design that will fit into the late steam era? Thanks Kevin
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53 1/2ft gonThrall Car
csxt5555
Can somebody shed some light on the Thrall Car 53 1/2 ft gon? These
cars were welded had 14 ribs and I believe they were produced around 1960?? Was this car produced any earlier than this? Does anyone know if there was a preceeding model with the same basic design that will fit into the late steam era? Thanks Kevin
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Re: BR&P
anthony wagner
I too have Pietrak's book and from what I read just recently it appears that there was a bidding war going on between several roads after WWI to make the BR&P part of a larger system. The B&O finally won, but I can imagine that while it was going on money was spent on only the most necessary items to avoid driving up the cost to whichever road finally acquired it.
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From: Eric Hansmann <eric@...> Subject: [STMFC] Re: BR&P To: STMFC@... Date: Wednesday, September 24, 2008, 11:26 AM --- Joel Norman wrote: Gentleman:Was wondering if there is anyone in this group modeling or has modeling data on the pre B&O BR&P Railroad?Im in the process of building a new HO layout based on the BR&P(as if the B&O didnt take over in 1931)line from Ashford Jct to Rochester(and the rail ferryto Canada)..... ....based somewhat on the ideas of the V&O. ============ ========= ========= === Joel, I've been a BR&P fan since I discovered the Paul Pietrak history of the railroad back in 1976. Photographic coverage of the line in the decade before B&O control is very hard to uncover. From what I can gather, very little new rolling stock or locos were acquired in this timeframe. The Van Swearingen brothers owned it for a portion of this time, but it seems there were no upgrades similar to what they did with the NKP, Erie and C&O. Bob Witt recommended the YahooGroups as one starting point. I'd recommend the Pietrak book as another. The railroad was owned by the Rochester & Pittsburgh Coal Company for many years. The R&P company archives ended up at the Indiana University of Pennsylvania library in the late 1980s. I do not know how much has been cataloged, but it may be worth a check there. Of course, these details would pre-date the B&O ownership by a number of years. Eric Hansmann Morgantown, W. Va. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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The Seaboard-Coast Line Modeler
golden1014
Gentlemen,
The latest edition of The Seaboard-Coast Line Modeler is now available on the ACL & SAL Historical Society website at http://s-clmodeler.aclsal.org/currentissue/sclmodv2n3f.pdf You can also access the magazine through the ACL & SAL HS home page at http://www.aclsal.org/ . From there, scroll down on the left to find the green tabs where you will find the S-CL Modeler link (http://s-clmodeler.aclsal.org/index.htm). Click the link and that'll take you to the S-CL Modeler site. From there, you can upload the magazine or view it online--your choice. We had some difficulty compressing this particular issue down to a manageable size, so please be advised that this issue is posted at ~24 megabytes. As always, we appreciate your helpful feedback so we can make our magazine better. We're continuously looking for articles, features, model photos and other contributions, so if you'd like to write something or contribute a photo please contact us and we'll get it in. If you've never written an article and would like to give it a try, we have a staff of great guys standing by to help you get started. Enjoy! Yours Very Truly, John John Golden Bloomington, IN [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: ADMIN: Re: For sale: Sunshine kits
Dennis Williams
I'm sorry for the double post. I forgot that I was still on the forum. Will not happen again. Dennis
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From: Mike Brock <brockm@...> Subject: ADMIN: Re: [STMFC] For sale: Sunshine kits To: STMFC@... Date: Wednesday, September 24, 2008, 5:06 PM Dennis Leppert writes: "I will take both. Any more?? Dennis --- On Wed, 9/24/08, Brian Leppert <b.leppert@att. net> wrote: From: Brian Leppert <b.leppert@att. net> Subject: [STMFC] For sale: Sunshine kits To: STMFC@yahoogroups. com Date: Wednesday, September 24, 2008, 8:07 AM I have two different Sunshine Models HO Swift 37' Meat Reefer kits for sale. $40.00 each, plus shipping #24.3 5200 series, 1950-60s lettering #24.6 6700 series, 1950-60s lettering If interested, please contact me off-list at b.leppert@att. net" Note that Brian said "please contact me off-list" Dennis replied not once but twice through the STMFC. I can understand making errors...I do enough to excuse them...but this is the reason why we made the rule NOT to allow presenting lists of items to sell on the STMFC. If this type of reply continues... and I'm certain that it will...listing items to sell will again be prohibited. Mike Brock STMFC Owner [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: The best lighting for kit-building.
lnnrr <lnnrr@...>
--- In STMFC@..., Denny Anspach <danspach@...> wrote:
Denny, I use a clamp-on magnifying lamp of the sort that has a circular fluorescent blub around the lens. As nearly shadow-free as you can ask. A 60W halogen stands off to one side for those extra-bright moments and sometimes I use it as a side-light under the main lens. Both came from a sewing store. I find that at my post-retirement age, a goodly amount of general room lights is also needful. Otherwise when I need to look away from the workbench, I waste time waiting for eyes to adjust. I also have a special set of workbench glasses, apart from my regular reading glasses. The workbench glasses are the same prescription on top as my reading glasses are on the bottom. The lower part of the workbench glasses are extra close focus. Not to replace Opti-visors, but just to get closer than my readers allow. Like checking to make sure your airline anglecock brackets are properly bolted in place. (GRIN) Chuck Peck A continuing problem that increasingly plagues my modeling ispoor lighting- lighting that no matter how bright creates blindingshadows and stark contrasts that commonly stretches 5 minute tasks intofinding ideal for their kit building work stations? Keep in mind thatolder eyes require higher light levels, and they are unable toaccommodate to light level changes very well.
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Re: AAR Car Code Question
On Wed, September 24, 2008 8:00 pm, Tom in Texas wrote:
I apologize if this is off list, but I haven't been able to find an AARTom, According to the 1943 ORER, the DM&IR's cars were class HMA. Regards Bruce Bruce Smith Auburn, AL
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AAR Car Code Question
Tom in Texas
I apologize if this is off list, but I haven't been able to find an AAR
car code for the ore cars like those used by the DM&IR Thanks in advance, Tom in Texas
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ADMIN: Re: For sale: Sunshine kits
Mike Brock <brockm@...>
Dennis Leppert writes:
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"I will take both. Any more?? Dennis
--- On Wed, 9/24/08, Brian Leppert <b.leppert@...> wrote:
From: Brian Leppert <b.leppert@...> Subject: [STMFC] For sale: Sunshine kits To: STMFC@... Date: Wednesday, September 24, 2008, 8:07 AM I have two different Sunshine Models HO Swift 37' Meat Reefer kits for sale. $40.00 each, plus shipping #24.3 5200 series, 1950-60s lettering #24.6 6700 series, 1950-60s lettering If interested, please contact me off-list at b.leppert@att. net" Note that Brian said "please contact me off-list" Dennis replied not once but twice through the STMFC. I can understand making errors...I do enough to excuse them...but this is the reason why we made the rule NOT to allow presenting lists of items to sell on the STMFC. If this type of reply continues...and I'm certain that it will...listing items to sell will again be prohibited. Mike Brock STMFC Owner
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Re: For sale: Sunshine kits
Dennis Williams
I will take both. Any more?? Dennis
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From: Brian Leppert <b.leppert@...> Subject: [STMFC] For sale: Sunshine kits To: STMFC@... Date: Wednesday, September 24, 2008, 8:07 AM I have two different Sunshine Models HO Swift 37' Meat Reefer kits for sale. $40.00 each, plus shipping #24.3 5200 series, 1950-60s lettering #24.6 6700 series, 1950-60s lettering If interested, please contact me off-list at b.leppert@att. net Brian Leppert Carson City, NV [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: For sale: Sunshine kits
Dennis Williams
I will take both. Dennis
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--- On Wed, 9/24/08, Brian Leppert <b.leppert@...> wrote:
From: Brian Leppert <b.leppert@...> Subject: [STMFC] For sale: Sunshine kits To: STMFC@... Date: Wednesday, September 24, 2008, 8:07 AM I have two different Sunshine Models HO Swift 37' Meat Reefer kits for sale. $40.00 each, plus shipping #24.3 5200 series, 1950-60s lettering #24.6 6700 series, 1950-60s lettering If interested, please contact me off-list at b.leppert@att. net Brian Leppert Carson City, NV [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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