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Re: Atlas 1932 ARA Boxcar

armprem
 

Does anyone know where I can pick up a Clinchfield?Armand Premo

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From: "mcindoefalls" <mcindoefalls@...>
To: <STMFC@...>
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 12:39 PM
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Atlas 1932 ARA Boxcar


--- In STMFC@..., "culturalinfidel9" <djmiller@...> wrote:

I've seen only limited discussion on the new Atlas 1932 boxcars. How
is the level of detailing? Any blatant inaccuracies?
Recently there was a brief discussion here, which mostly questioned
the two-board tackboards. But while we're on the subject, I have to
question Atlas's choice of road names. The only ones I'm even
remotely, and I mean remotely, interested in are CofG and MEC. If they
had offered WM, C&O or Seaboard in the first run, they would have sold
a car or three to me already. But, Warrior River Terminal???

Walt Lankenau



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Re: Library of Congress Panoramic Photo Collection

Garth G. Groff <ggg9y@...>
 

Walter,

I got into the site and searched under "railroad", coming up with lots of hits. No time to look at very many here at work, but I saw several relating to the Yosemite Valley Railroad, and found one of the depot right here in lil ole Charlottesville, Virginia (which I've seen before). The latter had some interesting freight cars in the distance (mandatory content). Also great shot of Lynchburg with the N&W yards along the James River with hundreds of cars. Sure doesn't look like that now.

Thanks much for calling this to our attention.

Kind regards,


Garth G. Groff

wmcclark1980 wrote:

List,

A recent Earthlink e-newsletter had a link to the Library of Congress
collection of panoramic photos, most from the first half of the 20th
century. There are over a hundred railroad images. You can look
around at: http://memory.loc.gov/ammem/collections/panoramic_photo/

Time stopped in November 1941
Walter M. Clark
Pullman, Washington, USA


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Re: Atlas 1932 ARA Boxcar

seaboard_1966
 

Walt

I am a SAL modeler and I picked up several of these cars, undecorated, for use a SAL cars. Speedwitch makes an outstanding set of decals which just beg to be used on these. When I get done building my latest SAL Green Hornet I intend on proceeding to the SAL 32 cars.

Denis Blake
Marysville, OH

----- Original Message -----
From: "mcindoefalls" <mcindoefalls@...>
To: <STMFC@...>
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 12:39 PM
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Atlas 1932 ARA Boxcar


--- In STMFC@..., "culturalinfidel9" <djmiller@...> wrote:

I've seen only limited discussion on the new Atlas 1932 boxcars. How
is the level of detailing? Any blatant inaccuracies?
Recently there was a brief discussion here, which mostly questioned
the two-board tackboards. But while we're on the subject, I have to
question Atlas's choice of road names. The only ones I'm even
remotely, and I mean remotely, interested in are CofG and MEC. If they
had offered WM, C&O or Seaboard in the first run, they would have sold
a car or three to me already. But, Warrior River Terminal???

Walt Lankenau



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Re: Atlas 1932 ARA Boxcar

spsalso
 

--- In STMFC@..., "mcindoefalls" <mcindoefalls@...> wrote:

But while we're on the subject, I have to
question Atlas's choice of road names. The only ones I'm even
remotely, and I mean remotely, interested in are CofG and MEC. If
they
had offered WM, C&O or Seaboard in the first run, they would have
sold
a car or three to me already. But, Warrior River Terminal???

Walt Lankenau
Actually, I'm rather glad they went that route (the "obscure" one).
I only ordered one I-GN car to have a look-see. When I pick up mine,
I'll decide on whether to buy samples from other roads in larger
quantities.

Edward Sutorik


Re: Atlas 1932 ARA Boxcar

Bill Schneider <branchline@...>
 

Steve,

Before you go repainting them... if these are the MP (I-GN) cars I believe that the tack boards SHOULD be black (Ed Hawkins will no doubt correct me if I'm wrong).

FWIW, looking at the photos in Ted C's book it seemed to me that there were two and three board tack boards, depending on the roads. If I had origonal shots I would be more confident, but that's what I believe I was seeing. The I-GN car seemed to be a two board car.

I picked up an MEC and an I-GN car. On the MEC car I replaced the tack boards with Branchline pieces (had a few kicking around!) which involved cutting the mounting bosses off of the end and door, added A-line sill steps and replaced the cut bars with wire (I felt the originals were too thick). I also swapped the trucks out so that I could use our code .088 wheels (Atlas uses a much shorter axle length and I don't have a Reboxx dealer nearby). Other than that, a quick weathering job and its on the layout. I plan on making most of these changes to the I-GN car as well...

Bill Schneider

----- Original Message -----
From: Steve Sandifer
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 2:21 PM
Subject: Fw: [STMFC] Re: Atlas 1932 ARA Boxcar


The tackboards, being black, stick out drawing attention to their inaccuracy. They have a pin in the back of them that hold them to the car. However, a quick paint job to make them the same color as the car and the discrepancy goes away for the average modeler. I did not try to replace them at this point, just paint them (too many other projects on my work table). I also replaced the 2-piece Atlas coupler with Kadee whisker 58s.

----- Original Message -----
From: mcindoefalls
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 11:39 AM
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Atlas 1932 ARA Boxcar

--- In STMFC@..., "culturalinfidel9" <djmiller@...> wrote:
>
> I've seen only limited discussion on the new Atlas 1932 boxcars. How
> is the level of detailing? Any blatant inaccuracies?

Recently there was a brief discussion here, which mostly questioned
the two-board tackboards. But while we're on the subject, I have to
question Atlas's choice of road names. The only ones I'm even
remotely, and I mean remotely, interested in are CofG and MEC. If they
had offered WM, C&O or Seaboard in the first run, they would have sold
a car or three to me already. But, Warrior River Terminal???

Walt Lankenau


Fw: Re: Atlas 1932 ARA Boxcar

Steve SANDIFER
 

The tackboards, being black, stick out drawing attention to their inaccuracy. They have a pin in the back of them that hold them to the car. However, a quick paint job to make them the same color as the car and the discrepancy goes away for the average modeler. I did not try to replace them at this point, just paint them (too many other projects on my work table). I also replaced the 2-piece Atlas coupler with Kadee whisker 58s.

----- Original Message -----
From: mcindoefalls
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 11:39 AM
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Atlas 1932 ARA Boxcar


--- In STMFC@..., "culturalinfidel9" <djmiller@...> wrote:
>
> I've seen only limited discussion on the new Atlas 1932 boxcars. How
> is the level of detailing? Any blatant inaccuracies?

Recently there was a brief discussion here, which mostly questioned
the two-board tackboards. But while we're on the subject, I have to
question Atlas's choice of road names. The only ones I'm even
remotely, and I mean remotely, interested in are CofG and MEC. If they
had offered WM, C&O or Seaboard in the first run, they would have sold
a car or three to me already. But, Warrior River Terminal???

Walt Lankenau


Library of Congress Panoramic Photo Collection

Walter M. Clark
 

List,

A recent Earthlink e-newsletter had a link to the Library of Congress
collection of panoramic photos, most from the first half of the 20th
century. There are over a hundred railroad images. You can look
around at: http://memory.loc.gov/ammem/collections/panoramic_photo/

Time stopped in November 1941
Walter M. Clark
Pullman, Washington, USA


Re: Atlas 1932 ARA Boxcar

timbowilts <tim.tumber@...>
 

--- In STMFC@..., "culturalinfidel9" <djmiller@...> wrote:

Group,

I've seen only limited discussion on the new Atlas 1932 boxcars. How
is the level of detailing? Any blatant inaccuracies? Are they
worthwhile over the Sunshine kits?

Dan Miller
To a Modeller this side of the Pond, who isn't sure if he can get
Sunshine kits as he has zilch web presence, they will be a godsend if
they ever arrive!

Tim Tumber
Wiltshire,
England


Re: Atlas 1932 ARA Boxcar

mcindoefalls
 

--- In STMFC@..., "culturalinfidel9" <djmiller@...> wrote:

I've seen only limited discussion on the new Atlas 1932 boxcars. How
is the level of detailing? Any blatant inaccuracies?
Recently there was a brief discussion here, which mostly questioned
the two-board tackboards. But while we're on the subject, I have to
question Atlas's choice of road names. The only ones I'm even
remotely, and I mean remotely, interested in are CofG and MEC. If they
had offered WM, C&O or Seaboard in the first run, they would have sold
a car or three to me already. But, Warrior River Terminal???

Walt Lankenau


Atlas 1932 ARA Boxcar

culturalinfidel9 <djmiller@...>
 

Group,

I've seen only limited discussion on the new Atlas 1932 boxcars. How
is the level of detailing? Any blatant inaccuracies? Are they
worthwhile over the Sunshine kits?

Dan Miller


Re: New DVD is Available

Scott Mason <smason2@...>
 

Thanks Bob,

I'll check it out.

Scott


Re: Paint Failure on Outside Metal Roofs

Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
 

Walter M. Clark wrote:
I haven't been able to find anything about the early 20th century (Harriman through USRA) and 1937 AAR house car roofs. Did these also have the same problem?
Certainly the early 20th century galvanized roofs did; there were repeated articles in Railway Age about it. By 1937, you'd think paint methods were better, but of course for those later cars we have photo evidence, and no, those roofs didn't hold paint too great either.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@...
Publishers of books on railroad history


Re: Mark Vaughan Wabash Decal Opinions and Correct Set?

al_brown03
 

--- In STMFC@..., "benjaminfrank_hom" <b.hom@...> wrote:

Jason Sanford
"I am thinking about using Mark Vaughan's Wabash decal set E-1 to
letter an OMI Wabash 40' #76000-76238 series wood boxcar with single
door. Is this the best and correct option to letter this car? Is
there a better option out there for lettering these cars? I model
1942. Thanks."

Your teminology is a bit confusing - "wood" boxcar doesn't tell me
much. Is it a single or double sheathed car?
These were single-sheathed; they were rebuilt in 1941 from 46000-
series double-door auto cars, likewise single-sheathed. Culotta, RMC
9/07 p 98. I haven't seen a photo of the 76000 series but Ted's
article has pictures of several other series.

Al Brown, Melbourne, Fla.


Paint Failure on Outside Metal Roofs

Walter M. Clark
 

List,

There is ample evidence that paint didn't stick too well to house car
roofs circa 1920 - 1930 (SP Freight Cars, Vol. 4 Box Cars, page 223,
photo of B-50-15 and discussion in Pacific Fruit Express, 1st edition,
page 96), but I haven't been able to find anything about the early
20th century (Harriman through USRA) and 1937 AAR house car roofs.
Did these also have the same problem?

Thanks,

Time stopped in November 1941
Walter M. Clark
Pullman, Washington, USA


Re: dynamometer cars

Frank Greene
 

n Wed, 8 Oct 2008 10:56:15 -0700 (PDT), Kevin Sprayberry wrote

Thanks Frank, I wondered if the L&N had used that car from time to time. Do you know what year they bought it?

-Kevin
Kevin: While not an L&N expert I assume they "bought" the dynamometer car when they merged the RR in 1957.
Brian Carlson

Steve Johnson, who has forgotten more L&N and NC&StL facts than I will ever know wrote in the "L&N Color Guide" about L&N 42365:

"Here is indeed a rare car in m-of-w service. Originally a dynamometer car,
it was built by ACF about 1916, and finished by NC&StL in 1917 as the
railroad's no. 90130. L&N purchased the car from the NC in 1937, after
having leased it in the 1920s and 1930s, and renumbered it to L&N no. 41900.
The dynamometer car served L&N until the demise of steam on the railroad in
1957, at which time the car was given a second career in m-of-w service, as
no. 42365. The car's kitchen, sleeping berths, office space and work area
made it well-suited to become a camp car. Shown here in Radnor Yard in March
1969, the unique camp car was sold for scrap in the early 1970s. On the
verge of being cut up, the car was saved by a private individual who stored
it at Kentucky Railway Museum sites in Louisville, KY, for several years. In
1978, the car was purchased by the Bluegrass Railroad Museum at Versailles,
KY."

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Frank Greene
Memphis, TN


Re: Mark Vaughan Wabash Decal Opinions and Correct Set?

benjaminfrank_hom <b.hom@...>
 

Jason Sanford
"I am thinking about using Mark Vaughan's Wabash decal set E-1 to
letter an OMI Wabash 40' #76000-76238 series wood boxcar with single
door. Is this the best and correct option to letter this car? Is
there a better option out there for lettering these cars? I model
1942. Thanks."

Your teminology is a bit confusing - "wood" boxcar doesn't tell me
much. Is it a single or double sheathed car?


Ben Hom


CDLX Tank Car Ad (Was California Despatch Line-Roma Wine reefer)

Bob Chaparro <thecitrusbelt@...>
 

For what it's worth, the April 1950 edition of Wines & Vines magazine
carried a full page ad for North American Car Corporation's C.D.L.X.
tank cars.

I have not see the actual issue of this magazine.

Bob Chaparro
Hemet, CA


Re: dynamometer cars

csxt5555
 

Yeah that is what I was thinking but wasn't sure if that car might have been on long term "loan" to the L&N before that.  I am looking for a car to model to along with my Clinchfield stuff.   I thought about doing the C&O car but then after seeing the wood Westinghouse car I thought it may work also.  Just not sure when the Westinghouse car was retired.  However if the L&N had the NC&StL car on loan the I might get away with that.  I guess I could do whichever I want because we all know there is a "prototype" for everything.
 
 
-Kevin

--- On Wed, 10/8/08, Brian J Carlson <brian@...> wrote:

From: Brian J Carlson <brian@...>
Subject: Re: [STMFC] dynamometer cars
To: STMFC@...
Date: Wednesday, October 8, 2008, 2:12 PM







n Wed, 8 Oct 2008 10:56:15 -0700 (PDT), Kevin Sprayberry wrote
Thanks Frank, I wondered if the L&N had used that car from time to
time.  Do you know what year they bought it?  I know that ALCO car
from that link was orginally NKP.  It was painted ALCO in the 60's I
believe.

-Kevin
Kevin: While not an L&N expert I assume they "bought" the dynamometer car
when they merged the RR in 1957.
Brian Carlson

















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Re: dynamometer cars

Brian J Carlson <brian@...>
 

n Wed, 8 Oct 2008 10:56:15 -0700 (PDT), Kevin Sprayberry wrote
Thanks Frank, I wondered if the L&N had used that car from time to
time.� Do you know what year they bought it?� I know that ALCO car
from that link was orginally NKP.� It was painted ALCO in the 60's I
believe.

-Kevin
Kevin: While not an L&N expert I assume they "bought" the dynamometer car
when they merged the RR in 1957.
Brian Carlson


Re: dynamometer cars

csxt5555
 

Thanks Frank, I wondered if the L&N had used that car from time to time.  Do you know what year they bought it?  I know that ALCO car from that link was orginally NKP.  It was painted ALCO in the 60's I believe.

-Kevin

--- On Wed, 10/8/08, Frank Greene <frgreene290@...> wrote:

From: Frank Greene <frgreene290@...>
Subject: Re: [STMFC] dynamometer cars
To: STMFC@...
Date: Wednesday, October 8, 2008, 12:56 PM






Kevin Sprayberry wrote:
For railroads that didn't have dynamometer cars, does anyone know how they went about gettting them?
Kevin, there was an example in our backyards, so to speak. The NC&StL
90130 (builder's photo Fallen Flags and also linked from the page you
cited) was loaned to the L&N when they needed it. At some point, the
L&N bought it.

--

Frank Greene
Memphis, TN


















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