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Re: Atlas 1932 ARA Boxcar

Jason Kliewer <jasonkliewer3@...>
 

That roster acrually need to be updated. It does not seem to account
for the 12 panel flat riveted roofs used by the CGW, Soo Line and
NdeM.


Jason

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "mcindoefalls" <mcindoefalls@...> wrote:

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Jason Kliewer" <jasonkliewer3@>
wrote:

I doubt you'll see a C&O car due to the radial roof and the WM
car
would have roof issues as well.
Thanks Jason, I didn't look all that closely at the roster and
didn't
pick up the radial roof on the C&O's cars. The WM's had the Duryea
underframe, too, although I think the panel roof would be OK. Maybe
someone like Des Plaines will offer kits for some of the more
unusual
variations, as they did with the C&O/ERIE 1937 boxcars.

Here's a link to the roster:
http://www.steamfreightcars.com/prototype/frtcars/1932arapdfmain.html

Walt


HO USRA Gondola Decals Source?

parkcitybranch <parkcitybranch@...>
 

Does anyone know of a company that makes decal sets for a composite
USRA gondola? I would like to have an Oriental Limited model painted
but can't locate any decals for the car. Ideally I would like a
roadname that still rostered non-rebuilt usra gondolas in 1942. Thanks.

Jason Sanford


Re: Atlas 1932 ARA Boxcar

mcindoefalls
 

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Jason Kliewer" <jasonkliewer3@...> wrote:

I doubt you'll see a C&O car due to the radial roof and the WM car
would have roof issues as well.
Thanks Jason, I didn't look all that closely at the roster and didn't
pick up the radial roof on the C&O's cars. The WM's had the Duryea
underframe, too, although I think the panel roof would be OK. Maybe
someone like Des Plaines will offer kits for some of the more unusual
variations, as they did with the C&O/ERIE 1937 boxcars.

Here's a link to the roster:
http://www.steamfreightcars.com/prototype/frtcars/1932arapdfmain.html

Walt


Re: US Army Air Corp Pics - Major cities

Jack Burgess
 

Yes, they do exist. I purchased a large (4' square) aerial map of Merced
showing the Yosemite Valley Railroad yards probably 35 years ago taken, as I
understood it at the time, by the US Army. My aerial was taken in 1939,
coincidentally the year that I am modeling.

As I recall, I didn't go through the LOC but through the California
Department of Agriculture or something like that; I seem to recall that the
photos were not of large cities (Merced wasn't a large city then or now) and
might have been taken for soil conservation purposes or something like that.
I think that I might have found out about the photos from an commercial
aerial photographer who worked with the city that I was working for. I do
remember marking the area that I was interested in on a USGS map in order to
get the print I wanted.

I'm sure that these aerials still exist but it will just take some
digging.....much easier now with the Internet. In California, my first stop
would be the University of California at Berkeley Map Room. They have 1000s
of maps, Sanborn maps, etc. There might be a university in other states
which might be the depository for such maps for that state.

Jack Burgess
www.yosemitevalleyrr.com


Reading about the LOC pics, reminded me of either reading or be told
about a pre-WWII project. The then US Army Air Corp was doing aerial
pics of major cities. This was cancelled (?) at the start of WWII.
Does anyone know of or where this collection, if it exist, is?
Reuben Feuge @ Poplarville, ms


US Army Air Corp Pics - Major cities

reubeft
 

Reading about the LOC pics, reminded me of either reading or be told
about a pre-WWII project. The then US Army Air Corp was doing aerial
pics of major cities. This was cancelled (?) at the start of WWII.
Does anyone know of or where this collection, if it exist, is?
Reuben Feuge @ Poplarville, ms


Re: Atlas 1932 ARA Boxcar - Photos posted

Steve SANDIFER
 

Thanks for pointing this out. on close examination, the side ladder rungs should be slightly lower than the end, but not as much as the model.
______________
J. Stephen (Steve) Sandifer
mailto:steve.sandifer@sbcglobal.net
Home: 12027 Mulholland Drive, Meadows Place, TX 77477, 281-568-9918
Office: Southwest Central Church of Christ, 4011 W. Bellfort, Houston, TX 77025, 713-667-9417

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Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 10:12 PM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Atlas 1932 ARA Boxcar - Photos posted



The biggest problem I see on all of them is that the rungs don't line up between the side and end ladders. Some of the other details I would prefer to replace with wire. Great collection of photos, Steve, thanks for taking the time to build the pages. I'd contribute money to someone willing to produce a spread like this for major releases.

I'll order a couple of undecs, and might even find the inspiration to build the Erie and NKP resin models on the shelf from Yankee Clipper.

....Mike Del Vecchio

In a message dated 10/09/08 21:50:06 Eastern Daylight Time, steve.sandifer@sbcglobal.net writes:
Okay, I have spent a couple of hours tonight creating the following website of photos.
http://www.geocities.com/stevesandifer2000/Atlas1932Box/Index.htm

See what you think of the Atlas cars.
______________
J. Stephen (Steve) Sandifer
mailto:steve.sandifer@sbcglobal.net
Home: 12027 Mulholland Drive, Meadows Place, TX 77477, 281-568-9918
Office: Southwest Central Church of Christ, 4011 W. Bellfort, Houston, TX 77025, 713-667-9417

----- Original Message -----
From: culturalinfidel9
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 11:31 AM
Subject: [STMFC] Atlas 1932 ARA Boxcar

Group,

I've seen only limited discussion on the new Atlas 1932 boxcars. How
is the level of detailing? Any blatant inaccuracies? Are they
worthwhile over the Sunshine kits?

Dan Miller


Re: Atlas 1932 ARA Boxcar - Photos posted

MDelvec952
 

The biggest problem I see on all of them is that the rungs don't line up between the side and end ladders. Some of the other details I would prefer to replace with wire. Great collection of photos, Steve, thanks for taking the time to build the pages. I'd contribute money to someone willing to produce a spread like this for major releases.

I'll order a couple of undecs, and might even find the inspiration to build the Erie and NKP resin models on the shelf from Yankee Clipper.

....Mike Del Vecchio

In a message dated 10/09/08 21:50:06 Eastern Daylight Time, steve.sandifer@sbcglobal.net writes:
Okay, I have spent a couple of hours tonight creating the following website of photos.
http://www.geocities.com/stevesandifer2000/Atlas1932Box/Index.htm

See what you think of the Atlas cars.
______________
J. Stephen (Steve) Sandifer
mailto:steve.sandifer@sbcglobal.net
Home: 12027 Mulholland Drive, Meadows Place, TX 77477, 281-568-9918
Office: Southwest Central Church of Christ, 4011 W. Bellfort, Houston, TX 77025, 713-667-9417

----- Original Message -----
From: culturalinfidel9
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 11:31 AM
Subject: [STMFC] Atlas 1932 ARA Boxcar

Group,

I've seen only limited discussion on the new Atlas 1932 boxcars. How
is the level of detailing? Any blatant inaccuracies? Are they
worthwhile over the Sunshine kits?

Dan Miller


Re: Atlas 1932 ARA Boxcar - Photos posted

Steve SANDIFER
 

Okay, I have spent a couple of hours tonight creating the following website of photos.
http://www.geocities.com/stevesandifer2000/Atlas1932Box/Index.htm

See what you think of the Atlas cars.
______________
J. Stephen (Steve) Sandifer
mailto:steve.sandifer@sbcglobal.net
Home: 12027 Mulholland Drive, Meadows Place, TX 77477, 281-568-9918
Office: Southwest Central Church of Christ, 4011 W. Bellfort, Houston, TX 77025, 713-667-9417

----- Original Message -----
From: culturalinfidel9
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 11:31 AM
Subject: [STMFC] Atlas 1932 ARA Boxcar


Group,

I've seen only limited discussion on the new Atlas 1932 boxcars. How
is the level of detailing? Any blatant inaccuracies? Are they
worthwhile over the Sunshine kits?

Dan Miller


Fw: Re: Atlas 1932 ARA Boxcar

jerryglow2
 

They should be black for MP and it's sub roads who made up the largest
ownership of the cars.

Jerry Glow

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Steve Sandifer" <steve.sandifer@...>
wrote:

The tackboards, being black, stick out drawing attention to their
inaccuracy. They have a pin in the back of them that hold them to the
car. However, a quick paint job to make them the same color as the car
and the discrepancy goes away for the average modeler. I did not try to
replace them at this point, just paint them (too many other projects on
my work table). I also replaced the 2-piece Atlas coupler with Kadee
whisker 58s.


Re: Atlas 1932 ARA Boxcar

Jason Kliewer <jasonkliewer3@...>
 

I doubt you'll see a C&O car due to the radial roof and the WM car
would have roof issues as well.

The SAL should be a no-brainer on a second run, I would think.

I'm pretty well on my own for CGW cars. Wrong roof, ends, and doors.
I ordered a couple to see what could be chopped up.


Jason


--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "mcindoefalls" <mcindoefalls@...> wrote:

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "culturalinfidel9" <djmiller@> wrote:

I've seen only limited discussion on the new Atlas 1932 boxcars.
How
is the level of detailing? Any blatant inaccuracies?
Recently there was a brief discussion here, which mostly questioned
the two-board tackboards. But while we're on the subject, I have to
question Atlas's choice of road names. The only ones I'm even
remotely, and I mean remotely, interested in are CofG and MEC. If they
had offered WM, C&O or Seaboard in the first run, they would have sold
a car or three to me already. But, Warrior River Terminal???

Walt Lankenau


Re: Atlas 1932 ARA Boxcar

Paul Lyons
 

Denis,



I would be surprised if the?Atlas cars have the correct truck spacing for SAL cars? Remember, the Sunshine kits are wrong.

Paul Lyons
Lagun Niguel, CA

-----Original Message-----
From: Denis F. Blake <dblake7@columbus.rr.com>
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 12:03 pm
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: Atlas 1932 ARA Boxcar







Walt

I am a SAL modeler and I picked up several of these cars, undecorated, for
use a SAL cars. Speedwitch makes an outstanding set of decals which just
beg to be used on these. When I get done building my latest SAL Green
Hornet I intend on proceeding to the SAL 32 cars.

Denis Blake
Marysville, OH
----- Original Message -----
From: "mcindoefalls" <mcindoefalls@yahoo.com>
To: <STMFC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 12:39 PM
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Atlas 1932 ARA Boxcar

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "culturalinfidel9" <djmiller@...> wrote:

I've seen only limited discussion on the new Atlas 1932 boxcars. How
is the level of detailing? Any blatant inaccuracies?
Recently there was a brief discussion here, which mostly questioned
the two-board tackboards. But while we're on the subject, I have to
question Atlas's choice of road names. The only ones I'm even
remotely, and I mean remotely, interested in are CofG and MEC. If they
had offered WM, C&O or Seaboard in the first run, they would have sold
a car or three to me already. But, Warrior River Terminal???

Walt Lankenau



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Sunshine unofficial website updated

Jim & Lisa Hayes <jimandlisa97225@...>
 

I've updated my website by adding flyers for kit #s 1-4 and 26-39. find the
ones you're interested in by looking in Flyers by RR. I've had this update
on the shelf for a month and I'm not 100% certain I checked out all the
links. Please let me know if you find any problems.

I'm going to Naperville and will scan flyers for the new releases soon after
I return. I should have all the new stuff added to the website within a few
days after I get back.



Jim Hayes
Portland Oregon
www.sunshinekits.com <http://www.sunshinekits.com/>


Re: Library of Congress Panoramic Photo Collection

Jack Burgess
 

Garth wrote:
I got into the site and searched under "railroad", coming up with lots
of hits. No time to look at very many here at work, but I saw several
relating to the Yosemite Valley Railroad [snip]
Yes, there are several of the YV and the high resolution scans are good
enough that I used one of them in my book.

Jack Burgess
www.yosemitevalleyrr.com


Re: Atlas 1932 ARA Boxcar

armprem
 

Does anyone know where I can pick up a Clinchfield?Armand Premo

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Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 12:39 PM
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Atlas 1932 ARA Boxcar


--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "culturalinfidel9" <djmiller@...> wrote:

I've seen only limited discussion on the new Atlas 1932 boxcars. How
is the level of detailing? Any blatant inaccuracies?
Recently there was a brief discussion here, which mostly questioned
the two-board tackboards. But while we're on the subject, I have to
question Atlas's choice of road names. The only ones I'm even
remotely, and I mean remotely, interested in are CofG and MEC. If they
had offered WM, C&O or Seaboard in the first run, they would have sold
a car or three to me already. But, Warrior River Terminal???

Walt Lankenau



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Re: Library of Congress Panoramic Photo Collection

Garth G. Groff <ggg9y@...>
 

Walter,

I got into the site and searched under "railroad", coming up with lots of hits. No time to look at very many here at work, but I saw several relating to the Yosemite Valley Railroad, and found one of the depot right here in lil ole Charlottesville, Virginia (which I've seen before). The latter had some interesting freight cars in the distance (mandatory content). Also great shot of Lynchburg with the N&W yards along the James River with hundreds of cars. Sure doesn't look like that now.

Thanks much for calling this to our attention.

Kind regards,


Garth G. Groff

wmcclark1980 wrote:

List,

A recent Earthlink e-newsletter had a link to the Library of Congress
collection of panoramic photos, most from the first half of the 20th
century. There are over a hundred railroad images. You can look
around at: http://memory.loc.gov/ammem/collections/panoramic_photo/

Time stopped in November 1941
Walter M. Clark
Pullman, Washington, USA


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Re: Atlas 1932 ARA Boxcar

seaboard_1966
 

Walt

I am a SAL modeler and I picked up several of these cars, undecorated, for use a SAL cars. Speedwitch makes an outstanding set of decals which just beg to be used on these. When I get done building my latest SAL Green Hornet I intend on proceeding to the SAL 32 cars.

Denis Blake
Marysville, OH

----- Original Message -----
From: "mcindoefalls" <mcindoefalls@yahoo.com>
To: <STMFC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 12:39 PM
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Atlas 1932 ARA Boxcar


--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "culturalinfidel9" <djmiller@...> wrote:

I've seen only limited discussion on the new Atlas 1932 boxcars. How
is the level of detailing? Any blatant inaccuracies?
Recently there was a brief discussion here, which mostly questioned
the two-board tackboards. But while we're on the subject, I have to
question Atlas's choice of road names. The only ones I'm even
remotely, and I mean remotely, interested in are CofG and MEC. If they
had offered WM, C&O or Seaboard in the first run, they would have sold
a car or three to me already. But, Warrior River Terminal???

Walt Lankenau



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Re: Atlas 1932 ARA Boxcar

spsalso
 

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "mcindoefalls" <mcindoefalls@...> wrote:

But while we're on the subject, I have to
question Atlas's choice of road names. The only ones I'm even
remotely, and I mean remotely, interested in are CofG and MEC. If
they
had offered WM, C&O or Seaboard in the first run, they would have
sold
a car or three to me already. But, Warrior River Terminal???

Walt Lankenau
Actually, I'm rather glad they went that route (the "obscure" one).
I only ordered one I-GN car to have a look-see. When I pick up mine,
I'll decide on whether to buy samples from other roads in larger
quantities.

Edward Sutorik


Re: Atlas 1932 ARA Boxcar

Bill Schneider <branchline@...>
 

Steve,

Before you go repainting them... if these are the MP (I-GN) cars I believe that the tack boards SHOULD be black (Ed Hawkins will no doubt correct me if I'm wrong).

FWIW, looking at the photos in Ted C's book it seemed to me that there were two and three board tack boards, depending on the roads. If I had origonal shots I would be more confident, but that's what I believe I was seeing. The I-GN car seemed to be a two board car.

I picked up an MEC and an I-GN car. On the MEC car I replaced the tack boards with Branchline pieces (had a few kicking around!) which involved cutting the mounting bosses off of the end and door, added A-line sill steps and replaced the cut bars with wire (I felt the originals were too thick). I also swapped the trucks out so that I could use our code .088 wheels (Atlas uses a much shorter axle length and I don't have a Reboxx dealer nearby). Other than that, a quick weathering job and its on the layout. I plan on making most of these changes to the I-GN car as well...

Bill Schneider

----- Original Message -----
From: Steve Sandifer
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 2:21 PM
Subject: Fw: [STMFC] Re: Atlas 1932 ARA Boxcar


The tackboards, being black, stick out drawing attention to their inaccuracy. They have a pin in the back of them that hold them to the car. However, a quick paint job to make them the same color as the car and the discrepancy goes away for the average modeler. I did not try to replace them at this point, just paint them (too many other projects on my work table). I also replaced the 2-piece Atlas coupler with Kadee whisker 58s.

----- Original Message -----
From: mcindoefalls
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 11:39 AM
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Atlas 1932 ARA Boxcar

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "culturalinfidel9" <djmiller@...> wrote:
>
> I've seen only limited discussion on the new Atlas 1932 boxcars. How
> is the level of detailing? Any blatant inaccuracies?

Recently there was a brief discussion here, which mostly questioned
the two-board tackboards. But while we're on the subject, I have to
question Atlas's choice of road names. The only ones I'm even
remotely, and I mean remotely, interested in are CofG and MEC. If they
had offered WM, C&O or Seaboard in the first run, they would have sold
a car or three to me already. But, Warrior River Terminal???

Walt Lankenau


Fw: Re: Atlas 1932 ARA Boxcar

Steve SANDIFER
 

The tackboards, being black, stick out drawing attention to their inaccuracy. They have a pin in the back of them that hold them to the car. However, a quick paint job to make them the same color as the car and the discrepancy goes away for the average modeler. I did not try to replace them at this point, just paint them (too many other projects on my work table). I also replaced the 2-piece Atlas coupler with Kadee whisker 58s.

----- Original Message -----
From: mcindoefalls
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 11:39 AM
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Atlas 1932 ARA Boxcar


--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "culturalinfidel9" <djmiller@...> wrote:
>
> I've seen only limited discussion on the new Atlas 1932 boxcars. How
> is the level of detailing? Any blatant inaccuracies?

Recently there was a brief discussion here, which mostly questioned
the two-board tackboards. But while we're on the subject, I have to
question Atlas's choice of road names. The only ones I'm even
remotely, and I mean remotely, interested in are CofG and MEC. If they
had offered WM, C&O or Seaboard in the first run, they would have sold
a car or three to me already. But, Warrior River Terminal???

Walt Lankenau


Library of Congress Panoramic Photo Collection

Walter M. Clark
 

List,

A recent Earthlink e-newsletter had a link to the Library of Congress
collection of panoramic photos, most from the first half of the 20th
century. There are over a hundred railroad images. You can look
around at: http://memory.loc.gov/ammem/collections/panoramic_photo/

Time stopped in November 1941
Walter M. Clark
Pullman, Washington, USA

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