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Re: Mineral Service on your Roads
Bob McCarthy
Elden,
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It occured to me that my daughter's godfather handle AMAX properties in central GA. I will check with him about the facts. He was a wizard in the Atlanta legal business in the early 1970's, some of his clients were AMAX and Georgia-Pacific. He is also a model railroader, although of SP bent. His father created the Titainium processing plant in Greenville, MS. I will check on what he knows about cars that brought the Kaolin out of the Sandersville area. Also, maybe he can provide information on the cars origin that brought the Titainium to Greenville, MS. Bob McCarthy
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From: Gatwood, Elden J SAD <elden.j.gatwood@...> Subject: RE: [STMFC] Mineral Service on your Roads To: STMFC@... Date: Tuesday, October 14, 2008, 6:39 PM Bob; That is interesting. Do you know where CoG sent their cars? Were there any specific concerns that went to CoG specifically for their kaolin? Was it used at all in glass-making, too? Thanks, Elden Gatwood ____________ _________ _________ __ From: STMFC@yahoogroups. com [mailto:STMFC@yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Bob McCarthy Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 2:18 PM To: STMFC@yahoogroups. com Subject: RE: [STMFC] Mineral Service on your Roads Howdy! Lately, I have been building and lettering a string of Central of Georgia two and three bay covered hoppers. They were used in Kaolin service that has many uses in both the paper (coating), fine china/ceramics, and medicine (Kaopectate) , etc. Since most of the members of this site are in HO, I can tell you that the Central of Georgia Historical Society, Allen Tuten, President, Google it and you can ask for Micro- scalle decals for these cars. Bob McCarthy --- On Tue, 10/14/08, Gatwood, Elden J SAD <elden.j.gatwood@ usace.army. mil <mailto:elden. j.gatwood% 40usace.army. mil> > wrote: From: Gatwood, Elden J SAD <elden.j.gatwood@ usace.army. mil <mailto:elden. j.gatwood% 40usace.army. mil> > Subject: RE: [STMFC] Mineral Service on your Roads To: STMFC@yahoogroups. com <mailto:STMFC% 40yahoogroups. com> Date: Tuesday, October 14, 2008, 5:36 PM Folks; I have been doing a bunch more reading on minerals shipped by the railroads, and figure you could have an interest. This may create a more interesting through or set-out operation for you, or even an on-line industrial interchange with your road, if we can figure out what cars were used by what roads, in this service. We have pretty good ideas of what roads shipped coal, and iron ore, but there is a lot that can be done to ID some of the rest, some of which was shipped in open hoppers, others in covered hoppers, and even box cars. Mineral service was a huge amount of the traffic on most roads, even those you wouldn't think of, so I hope we can figure some of this out. Here we go: Aluminum; source area usually overseas (Guinea, Jamaica, Brazil, India); would have entered U.S. ports, most eastern. QUESTIONS: What ports, and shipped by what roads, where destined, how shipped? How much? Ammonium Sulfate; by-product of coking industry; used as soil amendment, white to yellow powder, shipped most often bagged, in box cars. Sources: Coke Industry - Bethlehem Steel, Colorado Fuel & Iron, Crucible Steel, Detroit Steel, Eastern Gas & Fuel, Ford Motor Co., Granite City Steel, Inland Steel, Interlake Iron, International Harvester, Jones & Laughlin, Kaiser Steel, Merritt-Chapman & Scott-Tennessee Products & Chemical, National Steel, Pittsburgh Coke & Chemical, Pittsburgh Steel, Republic Steel, Sharon Steel, U.S. Pipe & Foundry, U.S. Steel (numerous locations), Wheeling Steel, Woodward Iron, Youngstown Sheet & Tube (to start) If you want more details about any of these facilities' production rates or locations, ask! Questions: Where did all this bagged product go first, before it went to local feed & fertilizer distributors? Calcium Carbide: grayish-white mineral used in de-sulphurization of iron. Also used in deoxidization at the ladle, in treatment. QUESTIONS: Sources? Shipped by what roads? Are these the cylindrical tanks we have seen shipped on the NYC and RI in dedicated service rack flats? How much of this was shipped? Chromium: blue-white ore; by 1952, 40% was coming from Turkey, 38% South Africa, some from s. Egypt & Cuba (i.e., 79% import), with small amounts from Montana, California, Oregon, and Alabama. Used in ferrochromium production. Most coming through ports of Philadelphia, Baltimore (others??). Shipped most often in open twin hoppers not filled to volumetric capacity due to weight. Most headed to specialty steel-making facilities (and small industrial chromium coating concerns, but first through where?) QUESTIONS: What other ports, and shipped by what roads? How much? More minerals, later! Any input appreciated. Elden Gatwood [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: New HO scale 70-ton flatcar
David North <davenorth@...>
Thanks Richard
Cheers Dave No. The 200 Ft-V class cars were the Santa Fe's only AAR 70 ton flat cars, and those were actually war emergency cars delivered in 1944 (though the difference between the recommended practice and war emergency designs isn't an issue for modelers, since it was just the replacement of metal floor stringers with wood). After the war, the Santa Fe went to cast steel flat cars with GSC one-piece castings (classes Ft-W, Ft-3, Ft-5, etc.). Richard Hendrickson
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Re: New HO scale 70-ton flatcar
Richard Hendrickson
On Oct 14, 2008, at 12:12 PM, mcindoefalls wrote:
--- In STMFC@..., "Dave Nelson" <Lake_Muskoka@...> wrote:$30 for a flatcar?Hey, it's ready to run and has a *real wood* deck! But seriously, the C'mon, guys, get real about prices. I have it on good authority from a manufacturer who prefers not to be quoted that the cost of everything in China - molding, assembly, packaging - is going up rapidly, and gets higher every week. It won't be long before assembled HO scale freight car models will be selling in the $40-$50 range. Remember a few years ago when a lot of modelers declared that they'd never give $30 for a freight car model, even if it was from Kadee. And there was such sales resistance that Kadee went broke, right? And we all went back to shake the blue box Irv Athearn kits, right? Ask any of us who've traveled overseas lately what the dollar is now worth relative to other currencies (i'd add that we all know who to blame for that, but our moderator proscribes political comments). And then consider how much better the products we're getting now are in accuracy and quality. $30 for an assembled flat car? You bet, and it will be more next year. Get 'em while you can. Richard Hendrickson
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Re: NYC Rebuilt USRA Gondolas - black colour scheme
Richard Hendrickson
On Oct 13, 2008, at 9:25 AM, Monk Alan wrote:
just taken delivery of my third NYC's rebuilt USRA gon (F&C kit) and, Alan, I built mine years ago, so I'm not certain, but my recollection is that I supplemented the kit decals, which (as was often true of F&C) weren't very good. Of course, they may be better now.
Well, as they say in your part of the English speaking world, not bloody likely. By the mid-'50s many of these cars had been retired or rebuilt, so their numbers were declining, and though a few might have survived that long with black paint, modeling one would verge on the implausible.
I have several photos of what appear (in B/W photos) to be black NYC gons dating from the 1930s, but none later than that. Richard Hendrickson
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Re: Mineral Service on your Roads
Norman+Laraine Larkin <lono@...>
This is an interesting topic, Elden. Although what I'm about to say occurred 1968/1969 on the B&M, there's nothing to say something similar didn't occur in the 40s and 50s elsewhere. There were several major construction projects in the Metropolitan Boston area that required large amounts of gravel. One project, the I-95 extension north of Boston, required some 3.5M cubic yards of gravel alone over a nine month period. The B&M provided 300 70-ton hoppers, but required more. They leased 200 B&LE hoppers (5-year lease); 100 Pennsy hoppers (per diem lease) ; 50 BAR hoppers (per diem lease); and 18 Portland Terminal hoppers. Three 60-car trains and one 48-car train were run per day for the I-95 project, two additional trains were run for the Logan Airport expansion. It was a fascinating operation, but the point is the railroad had to lease cars from other carriers, in this case, five different road names in captive, regularly scheduled mineral service. I wonder how many times this occurred in our time frame. The above information was taken from the Winter 1974-1975 issue of the B&M Bulletin from an article by H. Bentley Crouch.
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Regards Norm Larkin
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From: Gatwood, Elden J SAD To: STMFC@... Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 1:36 PM Subject: RE: [STMFC] Mineral Service on your Roads Folks; I have been doing a bunch more reading on minerals shipped by the railroads, and figure you could have an interest. This may create a more interesting through or set-out operation for you, or even an on-line industrial interchange with your road, if we can figure out what cars were used by what roads, in this service. We have pretty good ideas of what roads shipped coal, and iron ore, but there is a lot that can be done to ID some of the rest, some of which was shipped in open hoppers, others in covered hoppers, and even box cars. Mineral service was a huge amount of the traffic on most roads, even those you wouldn't think of, so I hope we can figure some of this out. Here we go: Aluminum; source area usually overseas (Guinea, Jamaica, Brazil, India); would have entered U.S. ports, most eastern. QUESTIONS: What ports, and shipped by what roads, where destined, how shipped? How much? Ammonium Sulfate; by-product of coking industry; used as soil amendment, white to yellow powder, shipped most often bagged, in box cars. Sources: Coke Industry - Bethlehem Steel, Colorado Fuel & Iron, Crucible Steel, Detroit Steel, Eastern Gas & Fuel, Ford Motor Co., Granite City Steel, Inland Steel, Interlake Iron, International Harvester, Jones & Laughlin, Kaiser Steel, Merritt-Chapman & Scott-Tennessee Products & Chemical, National Steel, Pittsburgh Coke & Chemical, Pittsburgh Steel, Republic Steel, Sharon Steel, U.S. Pipe & Foundry, U.S. Steel (numerous locations), Wheeling Steel, Woodward Iron, Youngstown Sheet & Tube (to start) If you want more details about any of these facilities' production rates or locations, ask! Questions: Where did all this bagged product go first, before it went to local feed & fertilizer distributors? Calcium Carbide: grayish-white mineral used in de-sulphurization of iron. Also used in deoxidization at the ladle, in treatment. QUESTIONS: Sources? Shipped by what roads? Are these the cylindrical tanks we have seen shipped on the NYC and RI in dedicated service rack flats? How much of this was shipped? Chromium: blue-white ore; by 1952, 40% was coming from Turkey, 38% South Africa, some from s. Egypt & Cuba (i.e., 79% import), with small amounts from Montana, California, Oregon, and Alabama. Used in ferrochromium production. Most coming through ports of Philadelphia, Baltimore (others??). Shipped most often in open twin hoppers not filled to volumetric capacity due to weight. Most headed to specialty steel-making facilities (and small industrial chromium coating concerns, but first through where?) QUESTIONS: What other ports, and shipped by what roads? How much? More minerals, later! Any input appreciated. Elden Gatwood
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Re: New HO scale 70-ton flatcar
Frederick Freitas <prrinvt@...>
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This happens when a friend asks you to detail an N scale reefer o the same level as your HO scale one; or, being retired, the oil man is now getting your beer and hobby money. Fred Freitas
--- On Tue, 10/14/08, Jim & Lisa Hayes <jimandlisa97225@...> wrote:
From: Jim & Lisa Hayes <jimandlisa97225@...> Subject: RE: [STMFC] Re: New HO scale 70-ton flatcar To: STMFC@... Date: Tuesday, October 14, 2008, 9:27 PM Gene Green said as vision diminishes and hand tremors increase<I have the same problem Gene. I wonder what causes it? I know it can't be age as I'm only 68. Jim Hayes Portland Oregon
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Re: New HO scale 70-ton flatcar
Jim & Lisa Hayes <jimandlisa97225@...>
Gene Green said
as vision diminishes and hand tremors increase<I have the same problem Gene. I wonder what causes it? I know it can't be age as I'm only 68. Jim Hayes Portland Oregon
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Re: New HO scale 70-ton flatcar
Jim & Lisa Hayes <jimandlisa97225@...>
Gene Green said
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From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of Gene Green Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 9:04 AM To: STMFC@... Subject: [STMFC] Re: New HO scale 70-ton flatcar Ed, Thanks for the description. Now I know which car we are dealing with. The Army had some out at Fort Bliss years ago and I was afforded plenty of opportunity to examine them closely. Unfortunately there do not appear to be any of these 70-ton flat cars on the 48-49-50 Landmesser hot box list. Finding myself to be ever less of a purist as vision diminishes and hand tremors increase, I'll probably have to have a couple of these flats anyway. Gene Green OitwTtoEP ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.173 / Virus Database: 270.8.0/1724 - Release Date: 10/14/2008 2:02 AM
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alternate standard twin offset hopper?
Jim & Lisa Hayes <jimandlisa97225@...>
Five years ago Sunshine did a mini-kit for this car with very thin side
castings to be overlaid over a sanded down Atlas hopper. I built one as a sample for Martin and have another I'll never build. It's available for $5 if anyone wants it. Contact me OFF LIST if you want more info. Jim Hayes Portland Oregon
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Re: New HO scale 70-ton flatcar
Jim & Lisa Hayes <jimandlisa97225@...>
AT $30 apiece for the IMRC version, it's cheaper to go with the Protowest
www.protowestmodels.com resin kit at 2 for $44.95. I just received mine a couple of weeks ago and it's a nice kit. Jim Hayes Portland Oregon
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Re: Mineral Service on your Roads
ATSF1226
Hi Folks,
The Santa Fe hauled Coal and Coke into Central AZ to support the Gold, Silver and Copper mining industry around Prescott AZ. Most of the Coal/Coke coming from on-line mines at Gallup or the area around Raton NM, in gons and later open hoppers. Smelters existed at Clarkdale, Jerome and Humboldt AZ. Not all smelters were in operation at the same time. The smelter at Jerome was feed by a narrow gauge line from Copper AZ (now Chino Valley) where a Transfer Trestle was located. Transfering Coal/Coke from standard gauge cars to narrow gauge cars took place. The smelter at Jerome closed in 1920 and all operations were moved to the Clarkdale Smelter and the narrow gauge railroad closed. The Humboldt smelter closed in the mid 30's and all smeltiing requirements were moved to Clarkdale. At times when the Clarkdale smelter was unable to meet the demand Copper ore was shipped to smelters in Bisbee AZ or El Paso TX. The Clarkdale smelter closed in 1953 when the United Verde Open Pit mine closed. Some Copper ore was still being mined from smaller operations but was then moved to Bisbee for processiing in Gons. Copper Matte was moved from the smelters was transported in Santa Fe Boxcars (thru the time of this list). The Clarkdale smelter reopened in 1957 to produce Cement for the Glen Canyon Dam project in Page AZ and the population growth in the Phoenix area. After reopening Natural Gas was used to fire the smelter, later converted to Bunker C fuel oil (Tank Cars) and then back to Coal/Coke. In addition to the fuel, railcars imported Mill Scale from steel mills and Fly Ash from power plants (fluxing agents) for the manufacturing process. The plant recieved 10 cars of Coal/Coke per day, five days a week, up until it's closing in the mid 90's. The plant used 300 tons a day for production. Most outbound loads for the dam were shipped by truck. Covered Hoppers and Boxcars handled the loads for other areas. George A Walls I have been doing a bunch more reading on minerals shipped by therailroads, and figure you could have an interest. This may create a moreinteresting through or set-out operation for you, or even an on-line industrialused by what roads, in this service.but there is a lot that can be done to ID some of the rest, some of which wasshipped in open hoppers, others in covered hoppers, and even box cars.Mineral service was a huge amount of the traffic on most roads, even thoseyou wouldn't think of, so I hope we can figure some of this out.India); would have entered U.S. ports, most eastern.how shipped? How much?amendment, white to yellow powder, shipped most often bagged, in box cars.Sources: Coke Industry - Bethlehem Steel, Colorado Fuel & Iron, CrucibleSteel, Detroit Steel, Eastern Gas & Fuel, Ford Motor Co., Granite CitySteel, Inland Steel, Interlake Iron, International Harvester, Jones & Laughlin,Kaiser Steel, Merritt-Chapman & Scott-Tennessee Products & Chemical,National Steel, Pittsburgh Coke & Chemical, Pittsburgh Steel, Republic Steel,Sharon Steel, U.S. Pipe & Foundry, U.S. Steel (numerous locations), WheelingSteel, Woodward Iron, Youngstown Sheet & Tube (to start) If you want moredetails about any of these facilities' production rates or locations, ask!went to local feed & fertilizer distributors?of iron. Also used in deoxidization at the ladle, in treatment.cylindrical tanks we have seen shipped on the NYC and RI in dedicated service rackflats? How much of this was shipped?South Africa, some from s. Egypt & Cuba (i.e., 79% import), with smallamounts from Montana, California, Oregon, and Alabama. Used in ferrochromiumproduction. Most coming through ports of Philadelphia, Baltimore (others??).Shipped most often in open twin hoppers not filled to volumetric capacitydue to weight. Most headed to specialty steel-making facilities (and small
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Re: Mineral Service on your Roads
Robert <riverob@...>
Tech speaking, neither sand nor gravel are minerals. They, and coal,
are rocks. Rocks are composed of minerals. A mineral is a geologically-formed solid consists one specific chemical composition and can be an element like sulpher or a compound like feldspar or quartz. Coal is usually classed as a sedimentary rock (on the soft peat end of the scale) to a metamorphic rock (on the hard anthracite end of the scale). Of course in the RR world, we usually refer to sand, gravel, and coal transportation as "mineral" service. Rob Simpson --- In STMFC@..., "Dave Nelson" <Lake_Muskoka@...> wrote: coal, was, IIRC, the second most common commodity shipped in open top cars... a fact that likely makes it the #1 mineral, as coal isn't a mineral (it's combustable dirt) and most sand and gravel is. And even better, virtual every railroad moved sand and gravel so such loads can be used by almost everybody who has a layout. number of posts citing tonnages.
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nice IC box car
The photo is listed on fallen flags as a caboose
shot... Appears to be from the late 1950's. http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/ic/ic-c9377jya.jpg Tim O'
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Re: Mineral Service on your Roads
seaboard_1966
The Seaboard and the coast line both had significant traffic in phosphate. It was mined as a slurry and transported in what were called "wet rock" cars. After being processed, cleaned and dried, it was transported in covered hoppers. Some of these were purpose built for this job. Phosphate was also carried in conventional covered hoppers of the era as well.
A significant quantity of this product was destined for export markets and were shiped from ports in the Tampa Bay area to markets around the world. Denis Blake Marysville, OH
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Re: Mineral Service on your Roads
Dave Nelson
Nobody has mentioned ordinary sand and gravel, which, after bit coal, was,
IIRC, the second most common commodity shipped in open top cars... a fact that likely makes it the #1 mineral, as coal isn't a mineral (it's combustable dirt) and most sand and gravel is. And even better, virtual every railroad moved sand and gravel so such loads can be used by almost everybody who has a layout. A search thru the archives for the word gravel will turn up a number of posts citing tonnages. Dave Nelson
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Re: US Army Air Corp Pics - Major cities
Thomas Baker
Will longitude and latitude help?
Tom
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Re: US Army Air Corp Pics - Major cities
Jared Harper <harper-brown@...>
--- In STMFC@..., richtownsend@... wrote:
they're at College Park. leaflets/26.html#aerial1 I have 1942-43 images of the towns on the Alma branch (just my era.) However, it is very difficult to make out any details. I was very disappointed. To make any use of them whatsoever you need a lot of other information, i.e. station plats, on site visits, interviews with locals. Even then they are not very useful. Jared Harper Athens, GA
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Re: USRA Standard 100-ton Gondola Car Design
rwitt_2000
Al Kresse wrote:
Raceland Car Shops in the late-60s. Al, Actually the cars rebuilt at Raceland in the 1960's were the B&O classes W-7, W-8 and W-9 AAR off-set side triple hoppers. The W-7 were build after WWII (1947 and 1948) and the class W-8 and W-9 were added in 1956 and 1958 respectively. Although ouside the time period for this group, I did a chart of these B&O hoppers showing their disappearance from the B&O roster and their addition to the C&O roster after the re-buildings. According to the ORER of 1969 the B&O received ~1720 of these rebuilt hopper cars. Bob Witt
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Re: Availabilty of Superior hand brakes castings ?
Bernd
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I'll check if CNWHS still has them, we no longer list them. If the society doesn't have them I still think I can get some. contact me off list. Ron Christensen CNWHS
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Re: Mineral Service on your Roads
Bob McCarthy
Elden,
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Allen Tuten emailed me since I emailed you. He is forwarding to me a article on the Central of Georgia car loading of Kaolin. At this time I only know about the types of industries that I mentioned, but I am sure more answers will become known. Some of these cars were used for grain shipment and labled as such. It seems that the loading of Kaolin occured in the Sandersville, GA area, where there are large deposits of this mineral. When I lived in Augusta, GA in the 1950's you would see these cars at the Continental Can plant on the southside. Also, I saw them at a DIXIE CUP plant, where my guess is that they used it in some way to manufacture their glazed hot cups for coffee. I am only speculating. The Central of Georgia Historical Society has decals for these cars. They were light grey with black undercarriage and trucks. I can forward images to those that might want to model these cars. Since, I am in S scale, I have had Microscale blow up the HO version for me. If any S scaler reads this contact me off site about the decals. This whole topic is very timely given my current covered hopper building program. Thanks, Bob McCarthy
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From: Gatwood, Elden J SAD <elden.j.gatwood@...> Subject: RE: [STMFC] Mineral Service on your Roads To: STMFC@... Date: Tuesday, October 14, 2008, 6:39 PM Bob; That is interesting. Do you know where CoG sent their cars? Were there any specific concerns that went to CoG specifically for their kaolin? Was it used at all in glass-making, too? Thanks, Elden Gatwood ____________ _________ _________ __ From: STMFC@yahoogroups. com [mailto:STMFC@yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Bob McCarthy Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 2:18 PM To: STMFC@yahoogroups. com Subject: RE: [STMFC] Mineral Service on your Roads Howdy! Lately, I have been building and lettering a string of Central of Georgia two and three bay covered hoppers. They were used in Kaolin service that has many uses in both the paper (coating), fine china/ceramics, and medicine (Kaopectate) , etc. Since most of the members of this site are in HO, I can tell you that the Central of Georgia Historical Society, Allen Tuten, President, Google it and you can ask for Micro- scalle decals for these cars. Bob McCarthy --- On Tue, 10/14/08, Gatwood, Elden J SAD <elden.j.gatwood@ usace.army. mil <mailto:elden. j.gatwood% 40usace.army. mil> > wrote: From: Gatwood, Elden J SAD <elden.j.gatwood@ usace.army. mil <mailto:elden. j.gatwood% 40usace.army. mil> > Subject: RE: [STMFC] Mineral Service on your Roads To: STMFC@yahoogroups. com <mailto:STMFC% 40yahoogroups. com> Date: Tuesday, October 14, 2008, 5:36 PM Folks; I have been doing a bunch more reading on minerals shipped by the railroads, and figure you could have an interest. This may create a more interesting through or set-out operation for you, or even an on-line industrial interchange with your road, if we can figure out what cars were used by what roads, in this service. We have pretty good ideas of what roads shipped coal, and iron ore, but there is a lot that can be done to ID some of the rest, some of which was shipped in open hoppers, others in covered hoppers, and even box cars. Mineral service was a huge amount of the traffic on most roads, even those you wouldn't think of, so I hope we can figure some of this out. Here we go: Aluminum; source area usually overseas (Guinea, Jamaica, Brazil, India); would have entered U.S. ports, most eastern. QUESTIONS: What ports, and shipped by what roads, where destined, how shipped? How much? Ammonium Sulfate; by-product of coking industry; used as soil amendment, white to yellow powder, shipped most often bagged, in box cars. Sources: Coke Industry - Bethlehem Steel, Colorado Fuel & Iron, Crucible Steel, Detroit Steel, Eastern Gas & Fuel, Ford Motor Co., Granite City Steel, Inland Steel, Interlake Iron, International Harvester, Jones & Laughlin, Kaiser Steel, Merritt-Chapman & Scott-Tennessee Products & Chemical, National Steel, Pittsburgh Coke & Chemical, Pittsburgh Steel, Republic Steel, Sharon Steel, U.S. Pipe & Foundry, U.S. Steel (numerous locations), Wheeling Steel, Woodward Iron, Youngstown Sheet & Tube (to start) If you want more details about any of these facilities' production rates or locations, ask! Questions: Where did all this bagged product go first, before it went to local feed & fertilizer distributors? Calcium Carbide: grayish-white mineral used in de-sulphurization of iron. Also used in deoxidization at the ladle, in treatment. QUESTIONS: Sources? Shipped by what roads? Are these the cylindrical tanks we have seen shipped on the NYC and RI in dedicated service rack flats? How much of this was shipped? Chromium: blue-white ore; by 1952, 40% was coming from Turkey, 38% South Africa, some from s. Egypt & Cuba (i.e., 79% import), with small amounts from Montana, California, Oregon, and Alabama. Used in ferrochromium production. Most coming through ports of Philadelphia, Baltimore (others??). Shipped most often in open twin hoppers not filled to volumetric capacity due to weight. Most headed to specialty steel-making facilities (and small industrial chromium coating concerns, but first through where?) QUESTIONS: What other ports, and shipped by what roads? How much? More minerals, later! Any input appreciated. Elden Gatwood [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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