In 2005 the Steam Freight Car list put together the following data on AAR data. Compiled by Jeff English, it covers 1870 to 1996. The question is what changes have occurred since 1996? I am aware that the list cut off date is 1960 but I feel it is important to keep the list up to date. If the powers that be with the "Great Key" to the moderator jail permit, this could be updated on the list. If not, we can update off list.

Year Change description Source

1870 archbar trucks replace wood beam as US standard White, John H. Jr.
1893 Safety Appliance Act passed (brakes and couplers) White, John H. Jr.
1900 August; all cars required to be equipped with air brakes &
knuckle couplers Thompson, James D.
1909 MCB drops recommendation for "Air Brake" stencil Thompson, James D.
1909 MCB standard MCB-26A to locate reporting marks at left end of
car side Thompson, Anthony W.
1911 Safety Appliance Act amended (ladders, grabs,etc.) Thompson, James D.
1911 United States Safety Appliances Standard stencil introduced
Thompson, James D.
1914 (or 1916?) Steel or steel-framed ends required or recommended on
box cars Neubauer, Eric & Thompson, David
1915 (approx.) All cars to be equipped with compliant ladders, grabs,
etc. Thompson, James D.
1920 Oct 20; ARA issues standards for stenciling reporting marks Wilber, Guy
1925 United States Safety Appliances Standard stencil requirement
discontinued Thompson, James D.
1925 Jan 1; ARA revised dimensional data stencil standards in effect
Gilbert, Tim
1925 May 1; nominal capacity & load limit stencils required Wilber, Guy
1927 April 7; load limit star stencil recommended, when limit is not
bearings Wilber, Guy
1928 wood draft sills banned from interchange Hendrickson, Richard
1933 August 1; Type E or F couplers required on all newly-built cars
1933 August 1: rotary uncoupling levers required on all newly-built
or newly-rebuilt cars
1933 September 1; AB brakes required on all newly-built cars
Hendrickson, Richard & Wilber, Guy
1934 October 12; AAR created by merger of ARA with Assn of Ry
Executives and Bureau of Ry Economics English, Jeff; from Weekly Rail Review
1935 January 1; revision of ICC accounting rules defining
repaired/rebuilt equipment Wilber, Guy
1936 January 1; Initial proposed ban of arch bar trucks (eventually
extended to 1940) Wilber, Guy
1937 January 1; AB brakes required on all newly-rebuilt cars Wilber, Guy
1937 January 1; geared handbrakes required on all newly-built or
newly-rebuilt cars Wilber, Guy
1937 August 1; revision of AAR Interchange Rules defining
repaired/rebuilt equipment Wilber, Guy
1937 August 1; Type E or F couplers required on all newly-rebuilt
cars Westerfield, Al
1937 Most billboard markings gone off boxcars and reefers Westerfield, Al
1938 No billboard boxcars and reefers Westerfield, Al
1939 December 31, arch bar trucks banned except 6 mo. for returning
empties Wilber, Guy
1940 July 1; arch bar trucks banned from interchange Wilber, Guy
1945 wood running boards outlawed on new cars O'Connor, Tim
1946 Jan 1; weld-repaired T- or L-section truck sideframes not to
applied Wilber, Guy
1948 Plate B maximum height 15-1 adopted 1948 ORER
1949 Jan 1; first proposed deadline for banning T- and L-section
trucks Wilber, Guy
1949 Reweighing box, stock, reefer after 1st 30 mos, then every 48
Nehrich, John
1950 Aug 1; I-section trucks added to proposed ban of T- and
L-section trucks Wilber, Guy
1953 July 1; K brakes banned, except tank cars & returning empties Kelly, Bill
1953 October 1; K brakes banned for tank cars & returning empties,
except for tank empties Kelly, Bill
1954 January 1; K brakes banned for all cars, including returning
tank empties Kelly, Bill
1957 January 1; final deadline for ban on T-, L- and I-section truck
sideframes Wilber, Guy
1957 trucks w/integrally-cast journal boxes required in interchange
Hendrickson, Richard
1958 January 1; cast iron wheels prohibited on new or newly-rebuilt cars
1959 January 1; Allied Full-Cushion truck banned due to derailments Wilber, Guy
1963 Plate C maximum height 15-6 adopted
1966 April 1; federal ban on running boards for new cars ordered
after Kaminski, Ed
1966 Summer, late; low mount hand brake std on most cars blt from
this time Eager, Jim
1966 Oct 1; federal ban on running boards for new cars delivered Kaminski, Ed
1967 Jan 1; high mount hand brakes prohibited on new cars Eager, Jim
1968 ACI labels introduced O'Connor, Tim
1970 January 1; initial proposed date to require ACI labels in
interchange Ruffing, James
1970 cast iron wheels banned from interchange (before Jan 2 1970)
Neubauer, Eric
1970 No underframes over 50 years (blt before Jan 2 1970?) Neubauer, Eric
1972 Final date for ACI labels required in interchange Ruffing, James
1972 Roller bearings required for all cars w/6-1/2x11 journals Eager, Jim
1972 AAR recommends single-panel COTS stencil, for new & rblt cars Eager, Jim
1974 Jan 1; running boards to be removed from all cars (extended) Kaminski, Ed
1974 Cars w/axle load >55,000 lbs must have roller bearings Eager, Jim
1974 No underframes over 40 years if blt before July 1, 1974 Matthews, Jim
1974 No underframes over 50 years if blt beginning July 1, 1974 Matthews, Jim
1974 Plate E maximum height 15-9 adopted 1974 ORER
1974 Plate F maximum height 17-0 adopted 1974 ORER
1974 Two-panel COTS stencil required by FRA, all cars Eager, Jim
1975 Plate H maximum height 20-2 established (after 1975?) Eager, Jim
1978 white dot/yellow dot wheel inspection begins Chatfield, D. Scott
1978 January 1; ACI labels no longer required for interchange Ruffing, James
1981 white dot/yellow dot wheel inspection ends Chatfield, D. Scott
1982 third version COTS, Jan 1 1982 Eager, Jim
1983 Dec. 31, running boards outlawed on all boxcars/reefers
Chatfield, D. Scott
1989 CAPY data stencil no longer required Chatfield, D. Scott
1991 plain-brg trucks banned from interchange Kaminski, Ed
1994 plain-brg trucks converted to roller-brg banned from interchange
Kaminski, Ed
1996 AEI "FET" tags required on interchange cars O'Connor, Tim

note: banned from interchange means AAR Interchange Rules
outlawed means prohibited by federal law or regulation backed by law

Any updates, corrections or omissions to the list would be appreciated.(subject to moderator approval)

Peter Bowers



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Several clarifications:

Charles Winters passed away several years ago, and had been in poor
health for some time before that.

His collection went to Lou Marre of Dayton, Ohio. Lou leases the
sought-after freight car collection to Jay Williams of Indianapolis.
Jay Williams (as Big Four Graphics) will probably be at Naperville
and is the readily available source for the Winters photos you seek.
Google around and find Jay's phone number, under Williams or Big Four
Graphics.

The Winters freight car photos were mostly taken by fellow Kansas
City resident Gene Sisk, who was the Chicago, South Shore, and South
Bend Rairoad freight represetative there in the 1950's. Sisk took
his camera while calling on accounts. Winters inherited the Sisk
negs.

Winters himself took little interest in freight cars, but he could
not keep us freight car guys clamoring for prints away. He was
accomodating, and made some good hobby money from printing them up.

Harold Vollrath and Charlie Winters traded copy negatives of their
collections to each other, but this is mostly steam locomotives,
their mutual favorite subject.














--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Anthony Thompson <thompson@...> wrote:

Bob McCarthy wrote:

     To recap I need good phone numbers and addresses for the
following people;
 
                   Bob's Photo,
                   P.O. Box 209,
                   Farmers, KY 40319          for CofGa Door and

a

Half Boxcar #6357

This address is good AFAIK.

                   Charles Winters
                   Kansas City, KS ????     for CofGa Door and a

Half

Boxcar #6427

Charles is deceased but I believe Harold Vollrath has the
collection now; and Joe Collias has prints of many of the images

also.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@...
Publishers of books on railroad history

In a message dated 10/27/2008 6:27:37 PM Central Daylight Time,
4everwaiting@brucetelecom.com writes:

1945 wood running boards outlawed on new cars O'Connor, Tim


Rule 3, Section (r), Paragraph (6) Running Boards, metal: All complete new
installations to box and other house cars (including type "LO" covered hopper
cars) on or after January 1, 1944, must comply with the following
specifications for Running Boards Other Than Wood, for Box and Other House Cars,
adopted as Standard Practice in 1943. In Interchange.


Kind Regards,

Guy Wilber
Brown Deer, WI
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Paul Dunn passed away in the late 1980's. His collection is widely
scattered. He had been selling off much of it to pay for medical
bills. Richard Burg has many of Dunn's freight car negatives.








--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Bob McCarthy <thesupplycar@...> wrote:

Howdy Ted and all others,
 
     Thankyou for your assistance and taking the time find correct

information on these parties listed below.

 
     To recap I need good phone numbers and addresses for the

following people;

 
                   Bob's Photo,
                   P.O. Box 209,
                   Farmers, KY 40319          for CofGa Door and a

Half Boxcar #6357

 
                   PH: 606-780-9905  Not working, need number
 
                   Charles Winters
                   ???
                   Kansas City, KS ????     for CofGa Door and a

Half Boxcar #6427

 
                   PH; Unknown
 
                   Richard Burg
                   2155 E. Whittemore,
                   Burton, Mich. 48529        for CofGa Door and a

Half Boxcar #6715

                   PH:  313-483-8199   Not working, need number
 
     Let me thank everyone ahead of time for your assistance.
 
Thanks,
 
Bob McCarthy 
 

--- On Mon, 10/27/08, Ted Schnepf <railsunl@...> wrote:

From: Ted Schnepf <railsunl@...>
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Naperville-New Shipper Guide
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, October 27, 2008, 4:30 PM

Hi Everyone,

As in the past Rails Unlimited will be at Naperville and will take
all kinds of payment, possibly including bartering.

I will have many HO scale models, and the newest books, including
those of freight cars.

My newest Shippers Guide is for the Great Northern RR. It is 319
pages and lists all towns, in order, on the GN, and all industries

in

that town, and which railroads serve it, and any special notes

about

the industry. The book has a comb binding so it opens flat while
preparing prototype way bills for your freight cars.

This book joins the other new book, the Missouri Pacific Shippers
Guide. Others in the series include Milw (2 each), CNW, UP, C&EI,

RI

and Chicago Switching district. These earlier books can be viewed

at

my website below. For those not coming to Naperville, I can also
handle mail orders.

On the O scale urethane car front will have PRR GRA and ACL K7 gons
and the newest the B&O M53 wagontop boxcar. All with custom decals.

There are still some operators openings for the Sunday morning op

session.

See you in Naperville

Ted

Rails Unlimited
Ted Schnepf
railsunl@sbcglobal. net
847-697-5353 or 5366
126 Will Scarlet
Elgin, Ill. 60120
http://RailsUnlimit ed.ribbonrail. com/

Model Railroad Sales and Service with
a personal touch.
Books new and used. HO and O scales.
DCC supplies. O scale urethane cars.
Photos and darkroom services.
Checks, cash (0%) or credit (secure server at web site 4% added).

In a message dated 10/27/2008 6:27:37 PM Central Daylight Time,
4everwaiting@brucetelecom.com writes:

1948 Plate B maximum height 15-1 adopted 1948 ORER


Approved (via letter ballot) and became effective on March 1, 1948


Regards,

Guy Wilber
Brown Deer, WI
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In a message dated 10/27/2008 6:27:37 PM Central Daylight Time,
4everwaiting@brucetelecom.com writes:

1937 Most billboard markings gone off boxcars and reefers Westerfield, Al
1938 No billboard boxcars and reefers Westerfield, Al


Rule 3, Section (a) Paragraph (8) Advertisements. Refrigerator cars bearing
advertisements of any shipper, consignee or product, will not be accepted,
effective April 1, 1937. This same requirement will apply to all other types
of cars except special cars of Mechanical Designation "L" and tank cars of
Mechanical Designation "T" effective January 1, 1939.


Regards,

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Brown Deer, WI
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In a message dated 10/27/2008 6:27:37 PM Central Daylight Time,
4everwaiting@brucetelecom.com writes:

1909 MCB drops recommendation for "Air Brake" stencil Thompson, James D.
1909 MCB standard MCB-26A to locate reporting marks at left end of
car side Thompson, Anthony W.
1911 Safety Appliance Act amended (ladders, grabs,etc.) Thompson, James D.
1911 United States Safety Appliances Standard stencil introduced
Thompson, James D.
1914 (or 1916?) Steel or steel-framed ends required or recommended on
box cars Neubauer, Eric & Thompson, David
1915 (approx.) All cars to be equipped with compliant ladders, grabs,
etc. Thompson, James D.
1920 Oct 20; ARA issues standards for stenciling reporting marks Wilber, Guy
1925 United States Safety Appliances Standard stencil requirement
discontinued Thompson, James D.
1925 Jan 1; ARA revised dimensional data stencil standards in effect
Gilbert, Tim
1925 May 1; nominal capacity & load limit stencils required Wilber, Guy
1927 April 7; load limit star stencil recommended, when limit is not
bearings Wilber, Guy
1928 wood draft sills banned from interchange Hendrickson, Richard
1933 August 1; Type E or F couplers required on all newly-built cars
1933 August 1: rotary uncoupling levers required on all newly-built
or newly-rebuilt cars
1933 September 1; AB brakes required on all newly-built cars
Hendrickson, Richard & Wilber, Guy
1934 October 12; AAR created by merger of ARA with Assn of Ry
Executives and Bureau of Ry Economics English, Jeff; from Weekly Rail Review
1935 January 1; revision of ICC accounting rules defining
repaired/rebuilt equipment Wilber, Guy
1936 January 1; Initial proposed ban of arch bar trucks (eventually
extended to 1940) Wilber, Guy
1937 January 1; AB brakes required on all newly-rebuilt cars Wilber, Guy
1937 January 1; geared handbrakes required on all newly-built or
newly-rebuilt cars Wilber, Guy
1937 August 1; revision of AAR Interchange Rules defining
repaired/rebuilt equipment Wilber, Guy
1937 August 1; Type E or F couplers required on all newly-rebuilt
cars Westerfield, Al
1937 Most billboard markings gone off boxcars and reefers Westerfield, Al
1938 No billboard boxcars and reefers Westerfield, Al
1939 December 31, arch bar trucks banned except 6 mo. for returning
empties Wilber, Guy
1940 July 1; arch bar trucks banned from interchange Wilber, Guy
1945 wood running boards outlawed on new cars O'Connor, Tim
1946 Jan 1; weld-repaired T- or L-section truck sideframes not to
applied Wilber, Guy
1948 Plate B maximum height 15-1 adopted 1948 ORER
1949 Jan 1; first proposed deadline for banning T- and L-section
trucks Wilber, Guy
1949 Reweighing box, stock, reefer after 1st 30 mos, then every 48
Nehrich, John
1950 Aug 1; I-section trucks added to proposed ban of T- and
L-section trucks Wilber, Guy
1953 July 1; K brakes banned, except tank cars & returning empties Kelly,
Bill
1953 October 1; K brakes banned for tank cars & returning empties,
except for tank empties Kelly, Bill
1954 January 1; K brakes banned for all cars, including returning
tank empties Kelly, Bill
1957 January 1; final deadline for ban on T-, L- and I-section truck
sideframes Wilber, Guy
1957 trucks w/integrally-1957 trucks w/integrally-<WBR>cast journal box
Hendrickson, Richard
1958 January 1; cast iron wheels prohibited on new or newly-rebuilt cars
1959 January 1; Allied Full-Cushion truck banned due to derailments Wilber,
Guy



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Bob McCarthy wrote:

     To recap I need good phone numbers and addresses for the
following people;
 
                   Bob's Photo,
                   P.O. Box 209,
                   Farmers, KY 40319          for CofGa Door and a
Half Boxcar #6357

This address is good AFAIK.

                   Charles Winters
                   Kansas City, KS ????     for CofGa Door and a Half
Boxcar #6427

Charles is deceased but I believe Harold Vollrath has the
collection now; and Joe Collias has prints of many of the images also.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@signaturepress.com
Publishers of books on railroad history

Does anyone have photos or drawings showing the air line piping and other
various details below the slope on the brake air tank end of the car. I
would like to add at least the airline piping to these cars since it is so
visible but none of the photos that I have show this area very clearly.



We just moved to the Tampa area and all of my reference books are in boxes
so I cannot even get to them right now.



If you have similar info for any hopper car in the early 1950's I would sure
appreciate it as well as I would like to do the same for my other hopper
cars.



As I am a "digest" subscriber, I would appreciate any info being mailed
directly to me as attachments which, if approved by the sender, I could be
shared with others on request.



Allen Cain

Thanks Al.

Victor


--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, " Westerfield" <westerfield@...> wrote:

Victor - If you want to be really safe and can use structures with

thick walls, use dental plaster. The cheapest resin and easiest to
work with is polyester. However, it is the least safe. It outgasses
styrene monomer which in large quantities can have many adverse
health effects. Urethanes are harder to work with but are safer.
The quicker the cure, the safer because there is less chance of
breathing the fumes. But use ventilation with any resin. - Al
Westerfield

----- Original Message -----
From: wabash2813
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 2:48 PM
Subject: [STMFC] Safe Resins for Model Production?


This is a little topic but its seem there are folks in this group

that

are in the know here.

I actually am not interested in rolling stock but structures.

Thanks in advance

Victor Baird
Fort Wayne, Indiana





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Victor - If you want to be really safe and can use structures with thick walls, use dental plaster. The cheapest resin and easiest to work with is polyester. However, it is the least safe. It outgasses styrene monomer which in large quantities can have many adverse health effects. Urethanes are harder to work with but are safer. The quicker the cure, the safer because there is less chance of breathing the fumes. But use ventilation with any resin. - Al Westerfield

This is a little topic but its seem there are folks in this group that
are in the know here.

I actually am not interested in rolling stock but structures.

Thanks in advance

Victor Baird
Fort Wayne, Indiana

Bruce Smith wrote:

To add to Tony's response, looking at the number of cars is only half the equation. The cars being removed from the roster were small capacity cars, which were being replaced by fewer higher capacity cars.

Quite true, and a trend which continues today, even if invisible from the viewpoint of this list. There may be fewer trains today, but annual tonnages are well in excess of our favorite steam-diesel transition era.
Speaking of larger cars, as this thread does, inevitably reminds me of the late Harriman era, when UP and SP were building very large (for that day) furniture/automobile cars. These immediately attracted the attention of the eastern lines, and at a 1909 meeting of the Association of Transportation and Car Accounting Officers, the Pennsylvania Railroad representative complained about the ". . . very high box cars belonging to certain Western Lines . . ." This is, of course, somewhat ironic in that 25 years later, the PRR would be taking credit for pressuring other railroads to accept higher box cars. I guess it's not only whose ox is being gored, but when it's gored.

BTW, "scrapped" may not be the right term for some of these cars. The PRR burned tens of thousands of wood XL boxcars in massive funeral pyres, salvaging the metal out of the ashes.

Yes, a dramatic story, and another illustration of one danger of standardization (and here I mean for anyone, not singling out the PRR): you can get overenthused about your new standard and buy way too many, or for too long. When first designed, the XL was a progressive car, but over those years in which the PRR continued to build huge numbers of them, car design was progressing rapidly, and by the time XL production ceased, they were already obsolete.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@signaturepress.com
Publishers of books on railroad history

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, destron@... wrote:

Weren't there some pretty big (50+ foot) cars being built out west

already

before WW1? I recall reading with some surprise about some

surprisingle

massive cars, quite early along.

Frank Valoczy
Vancouver, BC

Hi Frank

In the February 1932 ORER there were 31 box/auto cars over 50' 7 5/8"
IL. The MILW had 30 cars with IL = 60'0"; and the PRR had one with IL
= 70'6". Both were gone by 1938. In the 1949 and 1950 ORERs there
were 111 "long" cars.

Best wishes,
Larry Ostresh
Laramie, Wyoming

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, water.kresse@... wrote:

Larry,

... Did your data include FGEX, PFEX, etc.?

Al Kresse

Hi Al. No.

(And thanks for the C&O information.)

Best wishes,
Larry Ostresh
Laramie, Wyoming

Howdy Ted and all others,
 
     Thankyou for your assistance and taking the time find correct information on these parties listed below.
 
     To recap I need good phone numbers and addresses for the following people;
 
                   Bob's Photo,
                   P.O. Box 209,
                   Farmers, KY 40319          for CofGa Door and a Half Boxcar #6357
 
                   PH: 606-780-9905  Not working, need number
 
                   Charles Winters
                   ???
                   Kansas City, KS ????     for CofGa Door and a Half Boxcar #6427
 
                   PH; Unknown
 
                   Richard Burg
                   2155 E. Whittemore,
                   Burton, Mich. 48529        for CofGa Door and a Half Boxcar #6715

                   PH:  313-483-8199   Not working, need number
 
     Let me thank everyone ahead of time for your assistance.
 
Thanks,
 
Bob McCarthy

Re: Auto loading on flats:

In John White's "American Railroad Freight Car" (p394, Fig 6.17) there is a full side-on photo of what appears to be a nearly identical loading arrangement.
There are 9 circa-1923 Buick soft-tops loaded on a long Grand Trunk flat. 8 of the cars are loaded 2-high using the metal ladder-type supports on each wheel of the upper auto. There is also a wood brace in some of the supports, presumably to prevent side sway. The 9th car is loaded at a 45-degree angle, nose down, and I can't see any reason to do this other than to save a couple of feet of clearance at the end of the car.

Hope this helps....

--------------------
Richard Brennan - San Leandro CA
--------------------
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
In STMFC Schuyler Larrabee wrote:
Being very careful with my terminology (Mr Thompson) I can see that on the nearest flat car, there
appears to be at least two ladder-shaped vertical frames which appear may be put into the stake
pockets on the flat car. They >might be< spaced so as to support the wheels of the automobiles in
the top row. These appear on the further flat cars as well.

Nobody's supplied any guesses about the make of automobiles shown. I'm far from being any sort of
expert, but the one suspended from the gantry MIGHT be a Hupmobile. There was an antique car
collector who lived in my area when I was a kid who had a BRIGHT yellow-painted Hupmobile with solid
disk wheels; I know that not all Hupmobiles had those solid wheels, though, but the body shape
reminds me of that car. This is probably an erroneous guess.

SGL

Any more photos of this subject. Very interesting. How were the top
rwo of cars secured ?

thks

Charlie Harris

Here is another interesting photo.

http://tinyurl.com/6jx22g

--- End forwarded message ---

Hi Everyone,

As in the past Rails Unlimited will be at Naperville and will take all kinds of payment, possibly including bartering.

I will have many HO scale models, and the newest books, including those of freight cars.

My newest Shippers Guide is for the Great Northern RR. It is 319 pages and lists all towns, in order, on the GN, and all industries in that town, and which railroads serve it, and any special notes about the industry. The book has a comb binding so it opens flat while preparing prototype way bills for your freight cars.

This book joins the other new book, the Missouri Pacific Shippers Guide. Others in the series include Milw (2 each), CNW, UP, C&EI, RI and Chicago Switching district. These earlier books can be viewed at my website below. For those not coming to Naperville, I can also handle mail orders.

On the O scale urethane car front will have PRR GRA and ACL K7 gons and the newest the B&O M53 wagontop boxcar. All with custom decals.

There are still some operators openings for the Sunday morning op session.

See you in Naperville

Ted


Rails Unlimited
Ted Schnepf
railsunl@sbcglobal.net
847-697-5353 or 5366
126 Will Scarlet
Elgin, Ill. 60120
http://RailsUnlimited.ribbonrail.com/

Model Railroad Sales and Service with
a personal touch.
Books new and used. HO and O scales.
DCC supplies. O scale urethane cars.
Photos and darkroom services.
Checks, cash (0%) or credit (secure server at web site 4% added).

Bob - Rich Burg, 2155 E. Whittemore, Burton, MI 48529 313-483-8199 - Al Westerfield

Thanks for that bit of info. I've been looking for some interesting
freight car projects and a couple of ventilator boxes was at the top
of the list, but I just didn't know if they would be correct for 1952.
Since I model the eastern section of the C&O there was direct
interchange with all three of the lines mentioned below. Somewhere in
this stack of stuff I have drawings of a couple of them.

As for those big wooden box cars - also somewhere in the same stack I
have photos of several 50' double sheathed cars and IIRC, a single
sheathed car. I have always considered them a rarity and thus have
never modeled one. Maybe I should do something about that.

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "laramielarry" <ostresh@...> wrote:

in the July 1950 ORER there were 23,242

short cars (from a U.S. total of 712,098 box, auto and ventilator
cars) - a little over 3% of the fleet. Over half of these were in

the

Southern ICC region (15,458), with the L&N, SEABOARD, and ACL

leading

the list.