AAR Interchange dates data
PBowers
In 2005 the Steam Freight Car list put together the following data on AAR data. Compiled by Jeff English, it covers 1870 to 1996. The question is what changes have occurred since 1996? I am aware that the list cut off date is 1960 but I feel it is important to keep the list up to date. If the powers that be with the "Great Key" to the moderator jail permit, this could be updated on the list. If not, we can update off list.
Year Change description Source 1870 archbar trucks replace wood beam as US standard White, John H. Jr. 1893 Safety Appliance Act passed (brakes and couplers) White, John H. Jr. 1900 August; all cars required to be equipped with air brakes & knuckle couplers Thompson, James D. 1909 MCB drops recommendation for "Air Brake" stencil Thompson, James D. 1909 MCB standard MCB-26A to locate reporting marks at left end of car side Thompson, Anthony W. 1911 Safety Appliance Act amended (ladders, grabs,etc.) Thompson, James D. 1911 United States Safety Appliances Standard stencil introduced Thompson, James D. 1914 (or 1916?) Steel or steel-framed ends required or recommended on box cars Neubauer, Eric & Thompson, David 1915 (approx.) All cars to be equipped with compliant ladders, grabs, etc. Thompson, James D. 1920 Oct 20; ARA issues standards for stenciling reporting marks Wilber, Guy 1925 United States Safety Appliances Standard stencil requirement discontinued Thompson, James D. 1925 Jan 1; ARA revised dimensional data stencil standards in effect Gilbert, Tim 1925 May 1; nominal capacity & load limit stencils required Wilber, Guy 1927 April 7; load limit star stencil recommended, when limit is not bearings Wilber, Guy 1928 wood draft sills banned from interchange Hendrickson, Richard 1933 August 1; Type E or F couplers required on all newly-built cars 1933 August 1: rotary uncoupling levers required on all newly-built or newly-rebuilt cars 1933 September 1; AB brakes required on all newly-built cars Hendrickson, Richard & Wilber, Guy 1934 October 12; AAR created by merger of ARA with Assn of Ry Executives and Bureau of Ry Economics English, Jeff; from Weekly Rail Review 1935 January 1; revision of ICC accounting rules defining repaired/rebuilt equipment Wilber, Guy 1936 January 1; Initial proposed ban of arch bar trucks (eventually extended to 1940) Wilber, Guy 1937 January 1; AB brakes required on all newly-rebuilt cars Wilber, Guy 1937 January 1; geared handbrakes required on all newly-built or newly-rebuilt cars Wilber, Guy 1937 August 1; revision of AAR Interchange Rules defining repaired/rebuilt equipment Wilber, Guy 1937 August 1; Type E or F couplers required on all newly-rebuilt cars Westerfield, Al 1937 Most billboard markings gone off boxcars and reefers Westerfield, Al 1938 No billboard boxcars and reefers Westerfield, Al 1939 December 31, arch bar trucks banned except 6 mo. for returning empties Wilber, Guy 1940 July 1; arch bar trucks banned from interchange Wilber, Guy 1945 wood running boards outlawed on new cars O'Connor, Tim 1946 Jan 1; weld-repaired T- or L-section truck sideframes not to applied Wilber, Guy 1948 Plate B maximum height 15-1 adopted 1948 ORER 1949 Jan 1; first proposed deadline for banning T- and L-section trucks Wilber, Guy 1949 Reweighing box, stock, reefer after 1st 30 mos, then every 48 Nehrich, John 1950 Aug 1; I-section trucks added to proposed ban of T- and L-section trucks Wilber, Guy 1953 July 1; K brakes banned, except tank cars & returning empties Kelly, Bill 1953 October 1; K brakes banned for tank cars & returning empties, except for tank empties Kelly, Bill 1954 January 1; K brakes banned for all cars, including returning tank empties Kelly, Bill 1957 January 1; final deadline for ban on T-, L- and I-section truck sideframes Wilber, Guy 1957 trucks w/integrally-cast journal boxes required in interchange Hendrickson, Richard 1958 January 1; cast iron wheels prohibited on new or newly-rebuilt cars 1959 January 1; Allied Full-Cushion truck banned due to derailments Wilber, Guy 1963 Plate C maximum height 15-6 adopted 1966 April 1; federal ban on running boards for new cars ordered after Kaminski, Ed 1966 Summer, late; low mount hand brake std on most cars blt from this time Eager, Jim 1966 Oct 1; federal ban on running boards for new cars delivered Kaminski, Ed 1967 Jan 1; high mount hand brakes prohibited on new cars Eager, Jim 1968 ACI labels introduced O'Connor, Tim 1970 January 1; initial proposed date to require ACI labels in interchange Ruffing, James 1970 cast iron wheels banned from interchange (before Jan 2 1970) Neubauer, Eric 1970 No underframes over 50 years (blt before Jan 2 1970?) Neubauer, Eric 1972 Final date for ACI labels required in interchange Ruffing, James 1972 Roller bearings required for all cars w/6-1/2x11 journals Eager, Jim 1972 AAR recommends single-panel COTS stencil, for new & rblt cars Eager, Jim 1974 Jan 1; running boards to be removed from all cars (extended) Kaminski, Ed 1974 Cars w/axle load >55,000 lbs must have roller bearings Eager, Jim 1974 No underframes over 40 years if blt before July 1, 1974 Matthews, Jim 1974 No underframes over 50 years if blt beginning July 1, 1974 Matthews, Jim 1974 Plate E maximum height 15-9 adopted 1974 ORER 1974 Plate F maximum height 17-0 adopted 1974 ORER 1974 Two-panel COTS stencil required by FRA, all cars Eager, Jim 1975 Plate H maximum height 20-2 established (after 1975?) Eager, Jim 1978 white dot/yellow dot wheel inspection begins Chatfield, D. Scott 1978 January 1; ACI labels no longer required for interchange Ruffing, James 1981 white dot/yellow dot wheel inspection ends Chatfield, D. Scott 1982 third version COTS, Jan 1 1982 Eager, Jim 1983 Dec. 31, running boards outlawed on all boxcars/reefers Chatfield, D. Scott 1989 CAPY data stencil no longer required Chatfield, D. Scott 1991 plain-brg trucks banned from interchange Kaminski, Ed 1994 plain-brg trucks converted to roller-brg banned from interchange Kaminski, Ed 1996 AEI "FET" tags required on interchange cars O'Connor, Tim note: banned from interchange means AAR Interchange Rules outlawed means prohibited by federal law or regulation backed by law Any updates, corrections or omissions to the list would be appreciated.(subject to moderator approval) Peter Bowers --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 081027-1, 27/10/2008 Tested on: 27/10/2008 7:21:31 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2008 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com
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Re: Seeking Good Phone Numbers for Burg, Bob's Photo, and Paul Dunn
jim_mischke <jmischke@...>
Several clarifications:
Charles Winters passed away several years ago, and had been in poor health for some time before that. His collection went to Lou Marre of Dayton, Ohio. Lou leases the sought-after freight car collection to Jay Williams of Indianapolis. Jay Williams (as Big Four Graphics) will probably be at Naperville and is the readily available source for the Winters photos you seek. Google around and find Jay's phone number, under Williams or Big Four Graphics. The Winters freight car photos were mostly taken by fellow Kansas City resident Gene Sisk, who was the Chicago, South Shore, and South Bend Rairoad freight represetative there in the 1950's. Sisk took his camera while calling on accounts. Winters inherited the Sisk negs. Winters himself took little interest in freight cars, but he could not keep us freight car guys clamoring for prints away. He was accomodating, and made some good hobby money from printing them up. Harold Vollrath and Charlie Winters traded copy negatives of their collections to each other, but this is mostly steam locomotives, their mutual favorite subject. --- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Anthony Thompson <thompson@...> wrote: a HalfHalf Boxcar #6357This address is good AFAIK.Charles Winters also.Boxcar #6427Charles is deceased but I believe Harold Vollrath has the
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Re: AAR Interchange dates data
Guy Wilber
In a message dated 10/27/2008 6:27:37 PM Central Daylight Time,
4everwaiting@brucetelecom.com writes: 1945 wood running boards outlawed on new cars O'Connor, Tim Rule 3, Section (r), Paragraph (6) Running Boards, metal: All complete new installations to box and other house cars (including type "LO" covered hopper cars) on or after January 1, 1944, must comply with the following specifications for Running Boards Other Than Wood, for Box and Other House Cars, adopted as Standard Practice in 1943. In Interchange. Kind Regards, Guy Wilber Brown Deer, WI **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1211625659x1200715650/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=82&bcd=emailf ooter)
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Re: Seeking Good Phone Numbers for Burg, Bob's Photo, and Paul Dunn
jim_mischke <jmischke@...>
Paul Dunn passed away in the late 1980's. His collection is widely
scattered. He had been selling off much of it to pay for medical bills. Richard Burg has many of Dunn's freight car negatives. --- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Bob McCarthy <thesupplycar@...> wrote: information on these parties listed below. following people; Half Boxcar #6357 Half Boxcar #6427 Half Boxcar #6715 in that town, and which railroads serve it, and any special notesabout the industry. The book has a comb binding so it opens flat whileRI and Chicago Switching district. These earlier books can be viewedat my website below. For those not coming to Naperville, I can alsosession.
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Re: AAR Interchange dates data
Guy Wilber
In a message dated 10/27/2008 6:27:37 PM Central Daylight Time,
4everwaiting@brucetelecom.com writes: 1948 Plate B maximum height 15-1 adopted 1948 ORER Approved (via letter ballot) and became effective on March 1, 1948 Regards, Guy Wilber Brown Deer, WI **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1211625659x1200715650/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=82&bcd=emailf ooter)
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Re: AAR Interchange dates data
Guy Wilber
In a message dated 10/27/2008 6:27:37 PM Central Daylight Time,
4everwaiting@brucetelecom.com writes: 1937 Most billboard markings gone off boxcars and reefers Westerfield, Al 1938 No billboard boxcars and reefers Westerfield, Al Rule 3, Section (a) Paragraph (8) Advertisements. Refrigerator cars bearing advertisements of any shipper, consignee or product, will not be accepted, effective April 1, 1937. This same requirement will apply to all other types of cars except special cars of Mechanical Designation "L" and tank cars of Mechanical Designation "T" effective January 1, 1939. Regards, Guy Wilber Brown Deer, WI **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1211625659x1200715650/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=82&bcd=emailf ooter)
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Re: AAR Interchange dates data
Guy Wilber
In a message dated 10/27/2008 6:27:37 PM Central Daylight Time,
4everwaiting@brucetelecom.com writes: 1909 MCB drops recommendation for "Air Brake" stencil Thompson, James D. 1909 MCB standard MCB-26A to locate reporting marks at left end of car side Thompson, Anthony W. 1911 Safety Appliance Act amended (ladders, grabs,etc.) Thompson, James D. 1911 United States Safety Appliances Standard stencil introduced Thompson, James D. 1914 (or 1916?) Steel or steel-framed ends required or recommended on box cars Neubauer, Eric & Thompson, David 1915 (approx.) All cars to be equipped with compliant ladders, grabs, etc. Thompson, James D. 1920 Oct 20; ARA issues standards for stenciling reporting marks Wilber, Guy 1925 United States Safety Appliances Standard stencil requirement discontinued Thompson, James D. 1925 Jan 1; ARA revised dimensional data stencil standards in effect Gilbert, Tim 1925 May 1; nominal capacity & load limit stencils required Wilber, Guy 1927 April 7; load limit star stencil recommended, when limit is not bearings Wilber, Guy 1928 wood draft sills banned from interchange Hendrickson, Richard 1933 August 1; Type E or F couplers required on all newly-built cars 1933 August 1: rotary uncoupling levers required on all newly-built or newly-rebuilt cars 1933 September 1; AB brakes required on all newly-built cars Hendrickson, Richard & Wilber, Guy 1934 October 12; AAR created by merger of ARA with Assn of Ry Executives and Bureau of Ry Economics English, Jeff; from Weekly Rail Review 1935 January 1; revision of ICC accounting rules defining repaired/rebuilt equipment Wilber, Guy 1936 January 1; Initial proposed ban of arch bar trucks (eventually extended to 1940) Wilber, Guy 1937 January 1; AB brakes required on all newly-rebuilt cars Wilber, Guy 1937 January 1; geared handbrakes required on all newly-built or newly-rebuilt cars Wilber, Guy 1937 August 1; revision of AAR Interchange Rules defining repaired/rebuilt equipment Wilber, Guy 1937 August 1; Type E or F couplers required on all newly-rebuilt cars Westerfield, Al 1937 Most billboard markings gone off boxcars and reefers Westerfield, Al 1938 No billboard boxcars and reefers Westerfield, Al 1939 December 31, arch bar trucks banned except 6 mo. for returning empties Wilber, Guy 1940 July 1; arch bar trucks banned from interchange Wilber, Guy 1945 wood running boards outlawed on new cars O'Connor, Tim 1946 Jan 1; weld-repaired T- or L-section truck sideframes not to applied Wilber, Guy 1948 Plate B maximum height 15-1 adopted 1948 ORER 1949 Jan 1; first proposed deadline for banning T- and L-section trucks Wilber, Guy 1949 Reweighing box, stock, reefer after 1st 30 mos, then every 48 Nehrich, John 1950 Aug 1; I-section trucks added to proposed ban of T- and L-section trucks Wilber, Guy 1953 July 1; K brakes banned, except tank cars & returning empties Kelly, Bill 1953 October 1; K brakes banned for tank cars & returning empties, except for tank empties Kelly, Bill 1954 January 1; K brakes banned for all cars, including returning tank empties Kelly, Bill 1957 January 1; final deadline for ban on T-, L- and I-section truck sideframes Wilber, Guy 1957 trucks w/integrally-1957 trucks w/integrally-<WBR>cast journal box Hendrickson, Richard 1958 January 1; cast iron wheels prohibited on new or newly-rebuilt cars 1959 January 1; Allied Full-Cushion truck banned due to derailments Wilber, Guy **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1211625659x1200715650/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=82&bcd=emailf ooter)
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Re: Seeking Good Phone Numbers for Burg, Bob's Photo, and Paul Dunn
Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
Bob McCarthy wrote:
To recap I need good phone numbers and addresses for theThis address is good AFAIK. Charles WintersCharles is deceased but I believe Harold Vollrath has the collection now; and Joe Collias has prints of many of the images also. Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA 2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com (510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@signaturepress.com Publishers of books on railroad history
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Hopper Car Air Line Details
Allen Cain <allencain@...>
Does anyone have photos or drawings showing the air line piping and other
various details below the slope on the brake air tank end of the car. I would like to add at least the airline piping to these cars since it is so visible but none of the photos that I have show this area very clearly. We just moved to the Tampa area and all of my reference books are in boxes so I cannot even get to them right now. If you have similar info for any hopper car in the early 1950's I would sure appreciate it as well as I would like to do the same for my other hopper cars. As I am a "digest" subscriber, I would appreciate any info being mailed directly to me as attachments which, if approved by the sender, I could be shared with others on request. Allen Cain
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Re: Safe Resins for Model Production?
Thanks Al.
Victor --- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, " Westerfield" <westerfield@...> wrote: thick walls, use dental plaster. The cheapest resin and easiest to work with is polyester. However, it is the least safe. It outgasses styrene monomer which in large quantities can have many adverse health effects. Urethanes are harder to work with but are safer. The quicker the cure, the safer because there is less chance of breathing the fumes. But use ventilation with any resin. - Al Westerfield ----- Original Message -----that are in the know here.
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Re: Safe Resins for Model Production?
Westerfield <westerfield@...>
Victor - If you want to be really safe and can use structures with thick walls, use dental plaster. The cheapest resin and easiest to work with is polyester. However, it is the least safe. It outgasses styrene monomer which in large quantities can have many adverse health effects. Urethanes are harder to work with but are safer. The quicker the cure, the safer because there is less chance of breathing the fumes. But use ventilation with any resin. - Al Westerfield
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From: wabash2813 To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 2:48 PM Subject: [STMFC] Safe Resins for Model Production? This is a little topic but its seem there are folks in this group that are in the know here. I actually am not interested in rolling stock but structures. Thanks in advance Victor Baird Fort Wayne, Indiana
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Safe Resins for Model Production?
This is a little topic but its seem there are folks in this group that
are in the know here. I actually am not interested in rolling stock but structures. Thanks in advance Victor Baird Fort Wayne, Indiana
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Re: A Great Decline
Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
Bruce Smith wrote:
To add to Tony's response, looking at the number of cars is only half the equation. The cars being removed from the roster were small capacity cars, which were being replaced by fewer higher capacity cars.Quite true, and a trend which continues today, even if invisible from the viewpoint of this list. There may be fewer trains today, but annual tonnages are well in excess of our favorite steam-diesel transition era. Speaking of larger cars, as this thread does, inevitably reminds me of the late Harriman era, when UP and SP were building very large (for that day) furniture/automobile cars. These immediately attracted the attention of the eastern lines, and at a 1909 meeting of the Association of Transportation and Car Accounting Officers, the Pennsylvania Railroad representative complained about the ". . . very high box cars belonging to certain Western Lines . . ." This is, of course, somewhat ironic in that 25 years later, the PRR would be taking credit for pressuring other railroads to accept higher box cars. I guess it's not only whose ox is being gored, but when it's gored. BTW, "scrapped" may not be the right term for some of these cars. The PRR burned tens of thousands of wood XL boxcars in massive funeral pyres, salvaging the metal out of the ashes.Yes, a dramatic story, and another illustration of one danger of standardization (and here I mean for anyone, not singling out the PRR): you can get overenthused about your new standard and buy way too many, or for too long. When first designed, the XL was a progressive car, but over those years in which the PRR continued to build huge numbers of them, car design was progressing rapidly, and by the time XL production ceased, they were already obsolete. Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA 2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com (510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@signaturepress.com Publishers of books on railroad history
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Re: A Great Decline
laramielarry <ostresh@...>
--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, destron@... wrote:
already before WW1? I recall reading with some surprise about somesurprisingle massive cars, quite early along.Hi Frank In the February 1932 ORER there were 31 box/auto cars over 50' 7 5/8" IL. The MILW had 30 cars with IL = 60'0"; and the PRR had one with IL = 70'6". Both were gone by 1938. In the 1949 and 1950 ORERs there were 111 "long" cars. Best wishes, Larry Ostresh Laramie, Wyoming
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Re: A Great Decline
laramielarry <ostresh@...>
--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, water.kresse@... wrote:
Hi Al. No. (And thanks for the C&O information.) Best wishes, Larry Ostresh Laramie, Wyoming
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Seeking Good Phone Numbers for Burg, Bob's Photo, and Paul Dunn
Bob McCarthy
Howdy Ted and all others,
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Thankyou for your assistance and taking the time find correct information on these parties listed below. To recap I need good phone numbers and addresses for the following people; Bob's Photo, P.O. Box 209, Farmers, KY 40319 for CofGa Door and a Half Boxcar #6357 PH: 606-780-9905 Not working, need number Charles Winters ??? Kansas City, KS ???? for CofGa Door and a Half Boxcar #6427 PH; Unknown Richard Burg 2155 E. Whittemore, Burton, Mich. 48529 for CofGa Door and a Half Boxcar #6715 PH: 313-483-8199 Not working, need number Let me thank everyone ahead of time for your assistance. Thanks, Bob McCarthy
--- On Mon, 10/27/08, Ted Schnepf <railsunl@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
From: Ted Schnepf <railsunl@sbcglobal.net> Subject: Re: [STMFC] Naperville-New Shipper Guide To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, October 27, 2008, 4:30 PM Hi Everyone,As in the past Rails Unlimited will be at Naperville and will take all kinds of payment, possibly including bartering. I will have many HO scale models, and the newest books, including those of freight cars. My newest Shippers Guide is for the Great Northern RR. It is 319 pages and lists all towns, in order, on the GN, and all industries in that town, and which railroads serve it, and any special notes about the industry. The book has a comb binding so it opens flat while preparing prototype way bills for your freight cars. This book joins the other new book, the Missouri Pacific Shippers Guide. Others in the series include Milw (2 each), CNW, UP, C&EI, RI and Chicago Switching district. These earlier books can be viewed at my website below. For those not coming to Naperville, I can also handle mail orders. On the O scale urethane car front will have PRR GRA and ACL K7 gons and the newest the B&O M53 wagontop boxcar. All with custom decals. There are still some operators openings for the Sunday morning op session. See you in Naperville Ted Rails Unlimited Ted Schnepf railsunl@sbcglobal. net 847-697-5353 or 5366 126 Will Scarlet Elgin, Ill. 60120 http://RailsUnlimit ed.ribbonrail. com/ Model Railroad Sales and Service with a personal touch. Books new and used. HO and O scales. DCC supplies. O scale urethane cars. Photos and darkroom services. Checks, cash (0%) or credit (secure server at web site 4% added). [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: autoracks, ca. 1915
Richard Brennan <brennan8@...>
Re: Auto loading on flats:
In John White's "American Railroad Freight Car" (p394, Fig 6.17) there is a full side-on photo of what appears to be a nearly identical loading arrangement. There are 9 circa-1923 Buick soft-tops loaded on a long Grand Trunk flat. 8 of the cars are loaded 2-high using the metal ladder-type supports on each wheel of the upper auto. There is also a wood brace in some of the supports, presumably to prevent side sway. The 9th car is loaded at a 45-degree angle, nose down, and I can't see any reason to do this other than to save a couple of feet of clearance at the end of the car. Hope this helps.... -------------------- Richard Brennan - San Leandro CA -------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- In STMFC Schuyler Larrabee wrote: Being very careful with my terminology (Mr Thompson) I can see that on the nearest flat car, there appears to be at least two ladder-shaped vertical frames which appear may be put into the stake pockets on the flat car. They >might be< spaced so as to support the wheels of the automobiles in the top row. These appear on the further flat cars as well. Nobody's supplied any guesses about the make of automobiles shown. I'm far from being any sort of expert, but the one suspended from the gantry MIGHT be a Hupmobile. There was an antique car collector who lived in my area when I was a kid who had a BRIGHT yellow-painted Hupmobile with solid disk wheels; I know that not all Hupmobiles had those solid wheels, though, but the body shape reminds me of that car. This is probably an erroneous guess. SGL Any more photos of this subject. Very interesting. How were the top--- End forwarded message ---
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Re: Naperville-New Shipper Guide
Ted Schnepf
Hi Everyone, As in the past Rails Unlimited will be at Naperville and will take all kinds of payment, possibly including bartering. I will have many HO scale models, and the newest books, including those of freight cars. My newest Shippers Guide is for the Great Northern RR. It is 319 pages and lists all towns, in order, on the GN, and all industries in that town, and which railroads serve it, and any special notes about the industry. The book has a comb binding so it opens flat while preparing prototype way bills for your freight cars. This book joins the other new book, the Missouri Pacific Shippers Guide. Others in the series include Milw (2 each), CNW, UP, C&EI, RI and Chicago Switching district. These earlier books can be viewed at my website below. For those not coming to Naperville, I can also handle mail orders. On the O scale urethane car front will have PRR GRA and ACL K7 gons and the newest the B&O M53 wagontop boxcar. All with custom decals. There are still some operators openings for the Sunday morning op session. See you in Naperville Ted Rails Unlimited Ted Schnepf railsunl@sbcglobal.net 847-697-5353 or 5366 126 Will Scarlet Elgin, Ill. 60120 http://RailsUnlimited.ribbonrail.com/ Model Railroad Sales and Service with a personal touch. Books new and used. HO and O scales. DCC supplies. O scale urethane cars. Photos and darkroom services. Checks, cash (0%) or credit (secure server at web site 4% added).
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Re: Richard Burg where are you?
Westerfield <westerfield@...>
Bob - Rich Burg, 2155 E. Whittemore, Burton, MI 48529 313-483-8199 - Al Westerfield
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From: Bob McCarthy To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2008 11:00 PM Subject: [STMFC] Richard Burg where are you? Howdy! A group of us are working to reproduce a highly detailed Central of Georgia Door and a Half 40 ' boxcar in Scale S. The president of the Central of Georgia Historical Society provided a lead on images of boxcar #6715 showing both sides. It is a Paul Dunn photo in Richard Burg's collection. If anyone knows how to reach Richard please forward that information to me. A phone number/email address would be appreciated. When I am finished with it, I will post a how to build it article for anyone to use. See attached photo of these boxcars. They were built in 1941, 1944 and 1947. Thanks, Bob McCarthy Modeling the Mighty Central of Georgia in Scale S Thanks, Bob McCarthy
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Re: A Great Decline
Earl T. Hackett <hacketet@...>
Thanks for that bit of info. I've been looking for some interesting
freight car projects and a couple of ventilator boxes was at the top of the list, but I just didn't know if they would be correct for 1952. Since I model the eastern section of the C&O there was direct interchange with all three of the lines mentioned below. Somewhere in this stack of stuff I have drawings of a couple of them. As for those big wooden box cars - also somewhere in the same stack I have photos of several 50' double sheathed cars and IIRC, a single sheathed car. I have always considered them a rarity and thus have never modeled one. Maybe I should do something about that. --- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "laramielarry" <ostresh@...> wrote: in the July 1950 ORER there were 23,242 short cars (from a U.S. total of 712,098 box, auto and ventilatorthe Southern ICC region (15,458), with the L&N, SEABOARD, and ACLleading the list.
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