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Re: Seeking Good Phone Numbers for Burg, Bob's Photo, and Paul Dunn

Ed Hawkins
 

On Oct 28, 2008, at 5:46 AM, Gatwood, Elden J SAD wrote:

Is Dick Kuelbs still providing photos, and if not, who has his
collection?

Also, who currently administers Paul Winters' collection?

Thanks,

Elden Gatwood
Elden,
Dick Kuelbs has his slide collection. As can be seen in selected
volumes of RP CYC and the MPHS Eagle publication, Dick has been kind to
share some of his slides with me to support various articles. Many
years ago he loaned his original slides to Al Chione, who in turn
offered duplicates in his slide sets. Virtually everything Al Chione
offered that was photographed during the 1960s at Dallas or Fort Worth
was from Dick.

I've heard that Paul Winters' collection was in the hands of Morning
Sun Books, but this is strictly through the grapevine.
Regards,
Ed Hawkins


Re: Seeking Good Phone Numbers for Burg, Bob's Photo, and Paul Dunn

eklundp
 

Group,

I spoke with Bob a couple of weekends ago at the Timonium Show.
They have moved again, but not so far as last time.

New address & phone:

Bob's Photo
P.O. Box 52
Wallingford, KY 40193
ph: 606-845-3323
email: bobsphoto.train at yahoo dot com

Paul Eklund


Re: Seeking Good Phone Numbers for Burg, Bob's Photo, and Paul Dunn

Gatwood, Elden J SAD
 

Guys;



Is Dick Kuelbs still providing photos, and if not, who has his collection?



Also, who currently administers Paul Winters' collection?



Thanks,



Elden Gatwood





________________________________

From: STMFC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:STMFC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Anthony Thompson
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 7:45 PM
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: Seeking Good Phone Numbers for Burg, Bob's Photo,
and Paul Dunn



jim_mischke wrote:
The Winters freight car photos were mostly taken by fellow Kansas
City resident Gene Sisk . . .
That would be GEORGE Sisk.

Harold Vollrath and Charlie Winters traded copy negatives of their
collections to each other, but this is mostly steam locomotives, their
mutual favorite subject.
Entirely true, but Harold has at least a few of the Winters
images. Joe Collias, who was a big help to Charlie in his last days,
also has at least prints if not copy negatives of many of the Winters
images, including freight cars.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@signaturepress.com
<mailto:thompson%40signaturepress.com>
Publishers of books on railroad history


Re: Fw: new member

destron@...
 

Richard,

I'm planning a trip to the National Archives in Ottawa this winter,
December or January; Michigan Central cars are on my list of things to be
extra alert for, so I can send you what I find if you like (and if the
wait isn't too long for you!)

Frank Valoczy
Vancouver, BC

Richard Burg sent the following message to me rather than the group and
I'm passing it on to the group:


"Hello to everyone, I'm new here, but very willing to as time allows
share information on freight cars.
My main interest is the PRR and I can converse on their freight car
fleet in great detail, but I also like the cars of many other roads
and have a lot of data on them to share.
Right now my only research project is dealing with cars of the
Michigan Central, and if any members have unusual photos of their cars
I'd be all "ears/eyes". I'm slowly working up a presentation on their
cars for a Prototype Modelers Seminar, I have 80+ different cars now,
maybe 120 photos total, and I know there are more out there.
I have about 10,000 freight car photos in my collection and willingly
share them for research. I sell 5 X 7, wet process prints of many of
them; details available via email. I look forward to posting prints
on this site to answer questions. I also have an extensive collection
of the ORER issues dating back to 1897. I'm not sure, but I think
this is the biggest collection privately held in the US. There is a
guy in Canada with more issues, but they are far newer ones than I
have. I gladly share copies of pages within reason.
Sincerely,
Richard Burg"







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Frank Valoczy
Vancouver, BC


Re: Fw: new member

Robert kirkham
 

Hello Richard,

I wonder if you have lists of the photos you are prepared to sell copies of?

Rob Kirkham

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From: "Mike Brock" <brockm@brevard.net>
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 7:23 PM
To: <STMFC@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [STMFC] Fw: new member

Richard Burg sent the following message to me rather than the group and I'm passing it on to the group:


"Hello to everyone, I'm new here, but very willing to as time allows share information on freight cars.
My main interest is the PRR and I can converse on their freight car fleet in great detail, but I also like the cars of many other roads and have a lot of data on them to share.
Right now my only research project is dealing with cars of the Michigan Central, and if any members have unusual photos of their cars I'd be all "ears/eyes". I'm slowly working up a presentation on their cars for a Prototype Modelers Seminar, I have 80+ different cars now, maybe 120 photos total, and I know there are more out there.
I have about 10,000 freight car photos in my collection and willingly share them for research. I sell 5 X 7, wet process prints of many of them; details available via email. I look forward to posting prints on this site to answer questions. I also have an extensive collection of the ORER issues dating back to 1897. I'm not sure, but I think this is the biggest collection privately held in the US. There is a guy in Canada with more issues, but they are far newer ones than I have. I gladly share copies of pages within reason.
Sincerely,
Richard Burg"






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Re: Richard Burg where are you?

altuna1122 <cinderandeight@...>
 

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Bob McCarthy <thesupplycar@...> wrote:

Howdy!
 
     A group of us are working to reproduce a highly
detailed Central of Georgia Door and a Half 40 ' boxcar in Scale S.
 
    The president of the Central of Georgia Historical Society
provided a lead on images of boxcar #6715 showing both sides.  It is
a Paul Dunn photo in Richard Burg's collection.
 
     If anyone knows how to reach Richard please forward that
information to me.  A phone number/email address would be appreciated.
 
    When I am finished with it, I will post a how to  build it
article for anyone to use.  See attached photo of these boxcars. 
They were built in 1941, 1944 and 1947.
 
Thanks,
 
Bob McCarthy
Modeling the Mighty Central of Georgia in Scale S
 
Thanks,
 
Bob McCarthy





Well, I'm out here, and new to the group. My email is
cinderandeight@aol.com, and your project sounds interesting


Fw: new member

Mike Brock <brockm@...>
 

Richard Burg sent the following message to me rather than the group and I'm passing it on to the group:


"Hello to everyone, I'm new here, but very willing to as time allows share information on freight cars.
My main interest is the PRR and I can converse on their freight car fleet in great detail, but I also like the cars of many other roads and have a lot of data on them to share.
Right now my only research project is dealing with cars of the Michigan Central, and if any members have unusual photos of their cars I'd be all "ears/eyes". I'm slowly working up a presentation on their cars for a Prototype Modelers Seminar, I have 80+ different cars now, maybe 120 photos total, and I know there are more out there.
I have about 10,000 freight car photos in my collection and willingly share them for research. I sell 5 X 7, wet process prints of many of them; details available via email. I look forward to posting prints on this site to answer questions. I also have an extensive collection of the ORER issues dating back to 1897. I'm not sure, but I think this is the biggest collection privately held in the US. There is a guy in Canada with more issues, but they are far newer ones than I have. I gladly share copies of pages within reason.
Sincerely,
Richard Burg"


Fw: [cnw] FDDM&S Freight Cars

Carl J. Marsico <Carlmarsico@...>
 

Anyone have any info regarding the below-referenced FDDM&S cars?

CJM

--- On Mon, 10/27/08, Erich Russ <eruss@cnwrr.com> wrote:
From: Erich Russ <eruss@cnwrr.com>
Subject: [cnw] FDDM&S Freight Cars
To: "Erich Russ" <eruss@cnwrr.com>
Date: Monday, October 27, 2008, 5:36 PM











The C&NW Historical Society is looking at possible models to produce in the

future. Among the possibilities are two Ft. Dodge Des Moines & Southern

cars. We have information on the cars' history from the AFE's but we are

lacking photographs.



#13-20 2-Bay Steel Hopper Cars, USRA 50-ton. Former L&N cars. A photo by

Jim Sands is on rrpicturearchives. net. I am looking for additional

photographs that show the lettering and logo in better detail. These photos

of #18 appear to show lettering for ballast service.



http://www.rrpictur earchives. net/showPicture. aspx?id=99003



http://www.rrpictur earchives. net/showPicture. aspx?id=70140



#15000-15106 Steel Box Cars, rebuilt USRA. These are former Rock Island

cars purchased in 1957. Again, we have a couple of scans posted by Jim

Sands. We are looking for additional photos of these cars showing the end

lettering and better shots of the side lettering. Did these have Viking

roofs?



http://www.rrpictur earchives. net/showPicture. aspx?id=99176



http://www.rrpictur earchives. net/showPicture. aspx?id=68669



Just for fun. #X28 (MOW service) appears to be from the same group of cars

so if someone has shots of this car's roof it might help. This car has been

repainted (no lettering) by Boone & Scenic Valley since this photo was

taken.



http://www.rrpictur earchives. net/showPicture. aspx?id=76224



Please feel forward this request as appropriate. If you have some Ft. Dodge

slides or photos that show cars in these series, please get in touch with

me.



Thank you,



Erich Russ



C&NWHS Vice President



Modelling Committee Chairman






























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Re: Seeking Good Phone Numbers for Burg, Bob's Photo, and Paul Dunn

Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
 

jim_mischke wrote:
The Winters freight car photos were mostly taken by fellow Kansas
City resident Gene Sisk . . .
That would be GEORGE Sisk.

Harold Vollrath and Charlie Winters traded copy negatives of their collections to each other, but this is mostly steam locomotives, their mutual favorite subject.
Entirely true, but Harold has at least a few of the Winters images. Joe Collias, who was a big help to Charlie in his last days, also has at least prints if not copy negatives of many of the Winters images, including freight cars.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@signaturepress.com
Publishers of books on railroad history


Re: AAR Interchange dates data

Guy Wilber
 

In a message dated 10/27/2008 9:58:10 PM Central Daylight Time,
guycwilber@aol.com writes:

Rule 3, Section (r), Paragraph (6) Running Boards, metal: All complete new
installations to box and other house cars (including type "LO" covered
hopper
cars) on or after January 1, 1944, must comply with the following
specifications for Running Boards Other Than Wood, for Box and Other House
Cars,
adopted as Standard Practice in 1943. In Interchange.


Paragraph (6) was modified to extend the effective date for full compliance
several times. The extensions were attributed to the difficulty of procuring
metal running boards which met the specifications due to war and post war
shortages.

Rule 3, Section (r), Paragraph (6) Running Boards, metal: All complete new
installations to box and other roofed cars (including type "LO" covered
hopper cars) between January 1, 1944, and January 1, 1948, must comply with the
Specifications for Running Boards Other Than Wood, for Box and Other Roofed
Cars, adopted as Standard Practice in 1943. In Interchange.


Kind Regards,

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AAR Interchange dates data

PBowers
 

In 2005 the Steam Freight Car list put together the following data on AAR data. Compiled by Jeff English, it covers 1870 to 1996. The question is what changes have occurred since 1996? I am aware that the list cut off date is 1960 but I feel it is important to keep the list up to date. If the powers that be with the "Great Key" to the moderator jail permit, this could be updated on the list. If not, we can update off list.

Year Change description Source

1870 archbar trucks replace wood beam as US standard White, John H. Jr.
1893 Safety Appliance Act passed (brakes and couplers) White, John H. Jr.
1900 August; all cars required to be equipped with air brakes &
knuckle couplers Thompson, James D.
1909 MCB drops recommendation for "Air Brake" stencil Thompson, James D.
1909 MCB standard MCB-26A to locate reporting marks at left end of
car side Thompson, Anthony W.
1911 Safety Appliance Act amended (ladders, grabs,etc.) Thompson, James D.
1911 United States Safety Appliances Standard stencil introduced
Thompson, James D.
1914 (or 1916?) Steel or steel-framed ends required or recommended on
box cars Neubauer, Eric & Thompson, David
1915 (approx.) All cars to be equipped with compliant ladders, grabs,
etc. Thompson, James D.
1920 Oct 20; ARA issues standards for stenciling reporting marks Wilber, Guy
1925 United States Safety Appliances Standard stencil requirement
discontinued Thompson, James D.
1925 Jan 1; ARA revised dimensional data stencil standards in effect
Gilbert, Tim
1925 May 1; nominal capacity & load limit stencils required Wilber, Guy
1927 April 7; load limit star stencil recommended, when limit is not
bearings Wilber, Guy
1928 wood draft sills banned from interchange Hendrickson, Richard
1933 August 1; Type E or F couplers required on all newly-built cars
1933 August 1: rotary uncoupling levers required on all newly-built
or newly-rebuilt cars
1933 September 1; AB brakes required on all newly-built cars
Hendrickson, Richard & Wilber, Guy
1934 October 12; AAR created by merger of ARA with Assn of Ry
Executives and Bureau of Ry Economics English, Jeff; from Weekly Rail Review
1935 January 1; revision of ICC accounting rules defining
repaired/rebuilt equipment Wilber, Guy
1936 January 1; Initial proposed ban of arch bar trucks (eventually
extended to 1940) Wilber, Guy
1937 January 1; AB brakes required on all newly-rebuilt cars Wilber, Guy
1937 January 1; geared handbrakes required on all newly-built or
newly-rebuilt cars Wilber, Guy
1937 August 1; revision of AAR Interchange Rules defining
repaired/rebuilt equipment Wilber, Guy
1937 August 1; Type E or F couplers required on all newly-rebuilt
cars Westerfield, Al
1937 Most billboard markings gone off boxcars and reefers Westerfield, Al
1938 No billboard boxcars and reefers Westerfield, Al
1939 December 31, arch bar trucks banned except 6 mo. for returning
empties Wilber, Guy
1940 July 1; arch bar trucks banned from interchange Wilber, Guy
1945 wood running boards outlawed on new cars O'Connor, Tim
1946 Jan 1; weld-repaired T- or L-section truck sideframes not to
applied Wilber, Guy
1948 Plate B maximum height 15-1 adopted 1948 ORER
1949 Jan 1; first proposed deadline for banning T- and L-section
trucks Wilber, Guy
1949 Reweighing box, stock, reefer after 1st 30 mos, then every 48
Nehrich, John
1950 Aug 1; I-section trucks added to proposed ban of T- and
L-section trucks Wilber, Guy
1953 July 1; K brakes banned, except tank cars & returning empties Kelly, Bill
1953 October 1; K brakes banned for tank cars & returning empties,
except for tank empties Kelly, Bill
1954 January 1; K brakes banned for all cars, including returning
tank empties Kelly, Bill
1957 January 1; final deadline for ban on T-, L- and I-section truck
sideframes Wilber, Guy
1957 trucks w/integrally-cast journal boxes required in interchange
Hendrickson, Richard
1958 January 1; cast iron wheels prohibited on new or newly-rebuilt cars
1959 January 1; Allied Full-Cushion truck banned due to derailments Wilber, Guy
1963 Plate C maximum height 15-6 adopted
1966 April 1; federal ban on running boards for new cars ordered
after Kaminski, Ed
1966 Summer, late; low mount hand brake std on most cars blt from
this time Eager, Jim
1966 Oct 1; federal ban on running boards for new cars delivered Kaminski, Ed
1967 Jan 1; high mount hand brakes prohibited on new cars Eager, Jim
1968 ACI labels introduced O'Connor, Tim
1970 January 1; initial proposed date to require ACI labels in
interchange Ruffing, James
1970 cast iron wheels banned from interchange (before Jan 2 1970)
Neubauer, Eric
1970 No underframes over 50 years (blt before Jan 2 1970?) Neubauer, Eric
1972 Final date for ACI labels required in interchange Ruffing, James
1972 Roller bearings required for all cars w/6-1/2x11 journals Eager, Jim
1972 AAR recommends single-panel COTS stencil, for new & rblt cars Eager, Jim
1974 Jan 1; running boards to be removed from all cars (extended) Kaminski, Ed
1974 Cars w/axle load >55,000 lbs must have roller bearings Eager, Jim
1974 No underframes over 40 years if blt before July 1, 1974 Matthews, Jim
1974 No underframes over 50 years if blt beginning July 1, 1974 Matthews, Jim
1974 Plate E maximum height 15-9 adopted 1974 ORER
1974 Plate F maximum height 17-0 adopted 1974 ORER
1974 Two-panel COTS stencil required by FRA, all cars Eager, Jim
1975 Plate H maximum height 20-2 established (after 1975?) Eager, Jim
1978 white dot/yellow dot wheel inspection begins Chatfield, D. Scott
1978 January 1; ACI labels no longer required for interchange Ruffing, James
1981 white dot/yellow dot wheel inspection ends Chatfield, D. Scott
1982 third version COTS, Jan 1 1982 Eager, Jim
1983 Dec. 31, running boards outlawed on all boxcars/reefers
Chatfield, D. Scott
1989 CAPY data stencil no longer required Chatfield, D. Scott
1991 plain-brg trucks banned from interchange Kaminski, Ed
1994 plain-brg trucks converted to roller-brg banned from interchange
Kaminski, Ed
1996 AEI "FET" tags required on interchange cars O'Connor, Tim

note: banned from interchange means AAR Interchange Rules
outlawed means prohibited by federal law or regulation backed by law

Any updates, corrections or omissions to the list would be appreciated.(subject to moderator approval)

Peter Bowers



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Re: Seeking Good Phone Numbers for Burg, Bob's Photo, and Paul Dunn

jim_mischke <jmischke@...>
 

Several clarifications:

Charles Winters passed away several years ago, and had been in poor
health for some time before that.

His collection went to Lou Marre of Dayton, Ohio. Lou leases the
sought-after freight car collection to Jay Williams of Indianapolis.
Jay Williams (as Big Four Graphics) will probably be at Naperville
and is the readily available source for the Winters photos you seek.
Google around and find Jay's phone number, under Williams or Big Four
Graphics.

The Winters freight car photos were mostly taken by fellow Kansas
City resident Gene Sisk, who was the Chicago, South Shore, and South
Bend Rairoad freight represetative there in the 1950's. Sisk took
his camera while calling on accounts. Winters inherited the Sisk
negs.

Winters himself took little interest in freight cars, but he could
not keep us freight car guys clamoring for prints away. He was
accomodating, and made some good hobby money from printing them up.

Harold Vollrath and Charlie Winters traded copy negatives of their
collections to each other, but this is mostly steam locomotives,
their mutual favorite subject.














--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Anthony Thompson <thompson@...> wrote:

Bob McCarthy wrote:
     To recap I need good phone numbers and addresses for the
following people;
 
                   Bob's Photo,
                   P.O. Box 209,
                   Farmers, KY 40319          for CofGa Door and
a
Half Boxcar #6357
This address is good AFAIK.

                   Charles Winters
                   Kansas City, KS ????     for CofGa Door and a
Half
Boxcar #6427
Charles is deceased but I believe Harold Vollrath has the
collection now; and Joe Collias has prints of many of the images
also.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@...
Publishers of books on railroad history


Re: AAR Interchange dates data

Guy Wilber
 

In a message dated 10/27/2008 6:27:37 PM Central Daylight Time,
4everwaiting@brucetelecom.com writes:

1945 wood running boards outlawed on new cars O'Connor, Tim


Rule 3, Section (r), Paragraph (6) Running Boards, metal: All complete new
installations to box and other house cars (including type "LO" covered hopper
cars) on or after January 1, 1944, must comply with the following
specifications for Running Boards Other Than Wood, for Box and Other House Cars,
adopted as Standard Practice in 1943. In Interchange.


Kind Regards,

Guy Wilber
Brown Deer, WI
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Re: Seeking Good Phone Numbers for Burg, Bob's Photo, and Paul Dunn

jim_mischke <jmischke@...>
 

Paul Dunn passed away in the late 1980's. His collection is widely
scattered. He had been selling off much of it to pay for medical
bills. Richard Burg has many of Dunn's freight car negatives.








--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Bob McCarthy <thesupplycar@...> wrote:

Howdy Ted and all others,
 
     Thankyou for your assistance and taking the time find correct
information on these parties listed below.
 
     To recap I need good phone numbers and addresses for the
following people;
 
                   Bob's Photo,
                   P.O. Box 209,
                   Farmers, KY 40319          for CofGa Door and a
Half Boxcar #6357
 
                   PH: 606-780-9905  Not working, need number
 
                   Charles Winters
                   ???
                   Kansas City, KS ????     for CofGa Door and a
Half Boxcar #6427
 
                   PH; Unknown
 
                   Richard Burg
                   2155 E. Whittemore,
                   Burton, Mich. 48529        for CofGa Door and a
Half Boxcar #6715

                   PH:  313-483-8199   Not working, need number
 
     Let me thank everyone ahead of time for your assistance.
 
Thanks,
 
Bob McCarthy 
 

--- On Mon, 10/27/08, Ted Schnepf <railsunl@...> wrote:

From: Ted Schnepf <railsunl@...>
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Naperville-New Shipper Guide
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, October 27, 2008, 4:30 PM







Hi Everyone,
As in the past Rails Unlimited will be at Naperville and will take
all kinds of payment, possibly including bartering.

I will have many HO scale models, and the newest books, including
those of freight cars.

My newest Shippers Guide is for the Great Northern RR. It is 319
pages and lists all towns, in order, on the GN, and all industries
in
that town, and which railroads serve it, and any special notes
about
the industry. The book has a comb binding so it opens flat while
preparing prototype way bills for your freight cars.

This book joins the other new book, the Missouri Pacific Shippers
Guide. Others in the series include Milw (2 each), CNW, UP, C&EI,
RI
and Chicago Switching district. These earlier books can be viewed
at
my website below. For those not coming to Naperville, I can also
handle mail orders.

On the O scale urethane car front will have PRR GRA and ACL K7 gons
and the newest the B&O M53 wagontop boxcar. All with custom decals.

There are still some operators openings for the Sunday morning op
session.

See you in Naperville

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Re: AAR Interchange dates data

Guy Wilber
 

In a message dated 10/27/2008 6:27:37 PM Central Daylight Time,
4everwaiting@brucetelecom.com writes:

1948 Plate B maximum height 15-1 adopted 1948 ORER


Approved (via letter ballot) and became effective on March 1, 1948


Regards,

Guy Wilber
Brown Deer, WI
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Re: AAR Interchange dates data

Guy Wilber
 

In a message dated 10/27/2008 6:27:37 PM Central Daylight Time,
4everwaiting@brucetelecom.com writes:

1937 Most billboard markings gone off boxcars and reefers Westerfield, Al
1938 No billboard boxcars and reefers Westerfield, Al


Rule 3, Section (a) Paragraph (8) Advertisements. Refrigerator cars bearing
advertisements of any shipper, consignee or product, will not be accepted,
effective April 1, 1937. This same requirement will apply to all other types
of cars except special cars of Mechanical Designation "L" and tank cars of
Mechanical Designation "T" effective January 1, 1939.


Regards,

Guy Wilber
Brown Deer, WI
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Re: AAR Interchange dates data

Guy Wilber
 

In a message dated 10/27/2008 6:27:37 PM Central Daylight Time,
4everwaiting@brucetelecom.com writes:

1909 MCB drops recommendation for "Air Brake" stencil Thompson, James D.
1909 MCB standard MCB-26A to locate reporting marks at left end of
car side Thompson, Anthony W.
1911 Safety Appliance Act amended (ladders, grabs,etc.) Thompson, James D.
1911 United States Safety Appliances Standard stencil introduced
Thompson, James D.
1914 (or 1916?) Steel or steel-framed ends required or recommended on
box cars Neubauer, Eric & Thompson, David
1915 (approx.) All cars to be equipped with compliant ladders, grabs,
etc. Thompson, James D.
1920 Oct 20; ARA issues standards for stenciling reporting marks Wilber, Guy
1925 United States Safety Appliances Standard stencil requirement
discontinued Thompson, James D.
1925 Jan 1; ARA revised dimensional data stencil standards in effect
Gilbert, Tim
1925 May 1; nominal capacity & load limit stencils required Wilber, Guy
1927 April 7; load limit star stencil recommended, when limit is not
bearings Wilber, Guy
1928 wood draft sills banned from interchange Hendrickson, Richard
1933 August 1; Type E or F couplers required on all newly-built cars
1933 August 1: rotary uncoupling levers required on all newly-built
or newly-rebuilt cars
1933 September 1; AB brakes required on all newly-built cars
Hendrickson, Richard & Wilber, Guy
1934 October 12; AAR created by merger of ARA with Assn of Ry
Executives and Bureau of Ry Economics English, Jeff; from Weekly Rail Review
1935 January 1; revision of ICC accounting rules defining
repaired/rebuilt equipment Wilber, Guy
1936 January 1; Initial proposed ban of arch bar trucks (eventually
extended to 1940) Wilber, Guy
1937 January 1; AB brakes required on all newly-rebuilt cars Wilber, Guy
1937 January 1; geared handbrakes required on all newly-built or
newly-rebuilt cars Wilber, Guy
1937 August 1; revision of AAR Interchange Rules defining
repaired/rebuilt equipment Wilber, Guy
1937 August 1; Type E or F couplers required on all newly-rebuilt
cars Westerfield, Al
1937 Most billboard markings gone off boxcars and reefers Westerfield, Al
1938 No billboard boxcars and reefers Westerfield, Al
1939 December 31, arch bar trucks banned except 6 mo. for returning
empties Wilber, Guy
1940 July 1; arch bar trucks banned from interchange Wilber, Guy
1945 wood running boards outlawed on new cars O'Connor, Tim
1946 Jan 1; weld-repaired T- or L-section truck sideframes not to
applied Wilber, Guy
1948 Plate B maximum height 15-1 adopted 1948 ORER
1949 Jan 1; first proposed deadline for banning T- and L-section
trucks Wilber, Guy
1949 Reweighing box, stock, reefer after 1st 30 mos, then every 48
Nehrich, John
1950 Aug 1; I-section trucks added to proposed ban of T- and
L-section trucks Wilber, Guy
1953 July 1; K brakes banned, except tank cars & returning empties Kelly,
Bill
1953 October 1; K brakes banned for tank cars & returning empties,
except for tank empties Kelly, Bill
1954 January 1; K brakes banned for all cars, including returning
tank empties Kelly, Bill
1957 January 1; final deadline for ban on T-, L- and I-section truck
sideframes Wilber, Guy
1957 trucks w/integrally-1957 trucks w/integrally-<WBR>cast journal box
Hendrickson, Richard
1958 January 1; cast iron wheels prohibited on new or newly-rebuilt cars
1959 January 1; Allied Full-Cushion truck banned due to derailments Wilber,
Guy



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Re: Seeking Good Phone Numbers for Burg, Bob's Photo, and Paul Dunn

Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
 

Bob McCarthy wrote:
     To recap I need good phone numbers and addresses for the
following people;
 
                   Bob's Photo,
                   P.O. Box 209,
                   Farmers, KY 40319          for CofGa Door and a
Half Boxcar #6357
This address is good AFAIK.

                   Charles Winters
                   Kansas City, KS ????     for CofGa Door and a Half
Boxcar #6427
Charles is deceased but I believe Harold Vollrath has the
collection now; and Joe Collias has prints of many of the images also.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@signaturepress.com
Publishers of books on railroad history


Hopper Car Air Line Details

Allen Cain <allencain@...>
 

Does anyone have photos or drawings showing the air line piping and other
various details below the slope on the brake air tank end of the car. I
would like to add at least the airline piping to these cars since it is so
visible but none of the photos that I have show this area very clearly.



We just moved to the Tampa area and all of my reference books are in boxes
so I cannot even get to them right now.



If you have similar info for any hopper car in the early 1950's I would sure
appreciate it as well as I would like to do the same for my other hopper
cars.



As I am a "digest" subscriber, I would appreciate any info being mailed
directly to me as attachments which, if approved by the sender, I could be
shared with others on request.



Allen Cain


Re: Safe Resins for Model Production?

reporterllc
 

Thanks Al.

Victor


--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, " Westerfield" <westerfield@...> wrote:

Victor - If you want to be really safe and can use structures with
thick walls, use dental plaster. The cheapest resin and easiest to
work with is polyester. However, it is the least safe. It outgasses
styrene monomer which in large quantities can have many adverse
health effects. Urethanes are harder to work with but are safer.
The quicker the cure, the safer because there is less chance of
breathing the fumes. But use ventilation with any resin. - Al
Westerfield
----- Original Message -----
From: wabash2813
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 2:48 PM
Subject: [STMFC] Safe Resins for Model Production?


This is a little topic but its seem there are folks in this group
that
are in the know here.

I actually am not interested in rolling stock but structures.

Thanks in advance

Victor Baird
Fort Wayne, Indiana





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