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Re: Wooden Craftsman Kits

SUVCWORR@...
 

I have Ambroid kits I built 40 years ago. I used Ambroid's cement without
incident. Apply several coats of sanding sealer to the model before painting
(sand between each coat) then there is no issue with water or decal solvent
being absorbed by the wood. It works best if the sealer is applied after the
basic car is built but before the detail parts are added.

Rich Orr

In a message dated 11/3/2008 7:38:39 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
hacketet@verizon.net writes:

The oldest wooden models I have on the layout are about 30 years old.
I built them with plain old Elmer's White Glue. The stuff holds up
well over the years. However, if you apply decals to an assembled
model, it will come apart. White glue is water soluble. The water
also swells the wood and that doesn't help things either. To avoid
this problem paint and decal the sides or other components before
assembly.

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "lnerj72" <lnerj72@...> wrote:

Hi Everyone,
A quick question, I am about to start on some wooden
freight car kits from various manufacturers (Pacific Pike, Ambroid,
Juneco, etc) and I was wondering what would be the best glue to use
for the wooden portions?


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Re: Reefer Block trains on Southeastern Lines-photos and Time Tables sought

seaboard_1966
 

Bill

Thanks for taking a few minutes to chat at Naperville. When I got home
I broke out my SAL timetables, I only have a few, and found some
information that may be of use to you.

Lets do this off list, please contact me at dblake7@columbus.rr.com

Denis Blake


Naperville Sunshine flyers on my website

Jim & Lisa Hayes <jimandlisa97225@...>
 

I've added the flyers for the new kit releases at Naperville.
View them at the Recent Flyers page of my website www.sunshinekits.com
<http://www.sunshinekits.com/>
If you don't see them, use the Refresh button. That gets me every time.

Two are missing. Martin forgot to bring flyers for BREX war time reefers
with '50s decals and D&H, D&RGW 36' boxcars. I'll add them as soon as I
receive them from Sunshine.

Now back to work to add the new flyers to the Flyers by RR page, add the
Sunshine recent releases list, update my all-time list, etc.

Jim Hayes
Portland Oregon


is this another new 70 ton truck?

Tim O'Connor
 


Re: Source For Older Freight Car Books

Adrian Hundhausen
 

Thanks Bob, those are useful and I have passed the info on to the
earlyrail site as well.

Adrian

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Chaparro" <thecitrusbelt@...>
wrote:

The on-line Internet Archive ( http://www.archive.org/index.php )
has
older publications that you may read as flip books or download
either
as a scanned documents or PDF files. The PDF versions take a while
to
download but are the easiest to read and copy text from.

I found two books under the subject "freight cars":

Freight Car Equipment: A Reference Book for Car Men on Freight Car
Work, Describing and Illustrating ... the Different Kinds of
Freight
Cars Now Built and Various Devices Used in Their Construction and
Repairs
By Frederick J Krueger
Published by , 1910

http://www.archive.org/details/freightcarequip00kruegoog
++++++++++++++
Modern Freight Car Estimating: Containing Necessary Information and
Tables Appertaining to the Proper Method of Compiling Correct
Estimates on Freight Equipment ...
By O. M. Stimson
Published by Press of C.P. Byrd, 1897

http://www.archive.org/details/modernfreightca00stimgoog

These are two freight car references to add to your library at no
cost. There are more railroad books (and film clips) on the
Internet
Archive site.

Bob Chaparro
Hemet, CA


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Aley, Jeff A
 

Testing; please ignore.

-Jeff


Phosphate and Other Hopper Car Air Line Details

Allen Cain <allencain@...>
 

I am looking for any photos or drawings showing the airline piping and other
details on the brake end of phosphate or other hoppers in the early 1950s.
This would be the area under the slope sheet where the air reservoir tank is
located.

I would like to add at least the airline piping to some HO models of these
cars since it is so visible but none of the photos that I have show this
area very clearly.

We just moved to the Tampa area and all of my reference books are in boxes
so I cannot get to them right now.

If you have info for any hopper car in the early 1950's I would sure
appreciate it as well as I would like to do the same for my other hopper
cars.

As I am a "digest" subscriber, I would appreciate any info being mailed
directly to me as attachments which, if approved by the sender, I could be
shared with others on request.

Allen Cain


Re: Source For Older Freight Car Books

Randy Hammill
 

And

Freight Terminals and Trains

http://books.google.com/books?
id=R3FBAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA1&dq=freight+car&lr=&as_brr=1#PPP14,M1

Randy Hammill
http://newbritainstation.com

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Randy Hammill" <nhrr@...> wrote:

Here's another one:

Cyclopedia of Engineering
http://books.google.com/books?id=AVJGAAAAMAAJ

It includes Air Brakes by LV Ludy.

Randy Hammill
http://newbritainstation.com


Re: Source For Older Freight Car Books

Randy Hammill
 

Here's another one:

Cyclopedia of Engineering
http://books.google.com/books?id=AVJGAAAAMAAJ

It includes Air Brakes by LV Ludy.

Randy Hammill
http://newbritainstation.com


--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Chaparro" <thecitrusbelt@...>
wrote:

The on-line Internet Archive ( http://www.archive.org/index.php )
has
older publications that you may read as flip books or download
either
as a scanned documents or PDF files. The PDF versions take a while
to
download but are the easiest to read and copy text from.

I found two books under the subject "freight cars":


Source For Older Freight Car Books

Bob Chaparro <thecitrusbelt@...>
 

The on-line Internet Archive ( http://www.archive.org/index.php ) has
older publications that you may read as flip books or download either
as a scanned documents or PDF files. The PDF versions take a while to
download but are the easiest to read and copy text from.

I found two books under the subject "freight cars":

Freight Car Equipment: A Reference Book for Car Men on Freight Car
Work, Describing and Illustrating ... the Different Kinds of Freight
Cars Now Built and Various Devices Used in Their Construction and
Repairs
By Frederick J Krueger
Published by , 1910

http://www.archive.org/details/freightcarequip00kruegoog
++++++++++++++
Modern Freight Car Estimating: Containing Necessary Information and
Tables Appertaining to the Proper Method of Compiling Correct
Estimates on Freight Equipment ...
By O. M. Stimson
Published by Press of C.P. Byrd, 1897

http://www.archive.org/details/modernfreightca00stimgoog

These are two freight car references to add to your library at no
cost. There are more railroad books (and film clips) on the Internet
Archive site.

Bob Chaparro
Hemet, CA


Re: AAR Interchange dates data

Guy Wilber
 

In a message dated 10/30/2008 9:29:49 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
rpsmith@archersminiatures.com writes:

So what was the date, in Interchange, existing Wood Running Boards on Cars
built before Jan 1 1944 had to be Replaced with Steel then?
Ron,

There was no date within the scope of this list that required owners to
replace wood running boards other than when cars were rebuilt in kind or when an
existing wood roof was replaced my a metal roof. Tank cars were under the
same stipulation. When rebuilt or a complete new underframe was applied the
running boards were to be changed to AAR approved metal or aluminum.

Regards,

Guy Wilber
Reno, Nevada


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Re: AAR Interchange dates data

Gene Green <bierglaeser@...>
 

Wood running boards were "grandfathered in" on cars originally built
before Jan 1, 1944. In most cases, but not all, cars built before a
change in interchange rules were allowed to run their useful lives
with changes being required. The AAR and the RRs depended on
attrition to get rid of out-of-date cars.

Gene Green

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Ron Smith" <rpsmith@...> wrote:

So what was the date, in Innerchange, existing Wood Running Boards
on Cars built before Jan 1 1944 had to be Replaced with Steel then?

Ron Smith
Carman UPRR

----- Original Message -----

In a message dated 10/27/2008 6:27:37 PM Central Daylight Time,
4everwaiting@... writes:

1945 wood running boards outlawed on new cars O'Connor, Tim

Rule 3, Section (r), Paragraph (6) Running Boards, metal: All
complete new
installations to box and other house cars (including type "LO"
covered hopper
cars) on or after January 1, 1944, must comply with the following
specifications for Running Boards Other Than Wood, for Box and
Other House Cars,
adopted as Standard Practice in 1943. In Interchange.

Kind Regards,

Guy Wilber
Brown Deer, WI


New Red Caboose PRR X29 boxcar

asychis@...
 

One quick self-serving ad. The Amarillo Railroad Museum just yesterday
received a run of 300 PRR X29 Merchandise Service boxcars with patch panels.
These are r-t-r by Red caboose. Price is $31.95 each, 12 numbers. They are
listed on e-Bay, or our website (but might not be available there until later
today or tomorrow).

Any questions? Please ask off-list.

Thanks,

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Re: AAR Interchange dates data

Ron Smith <rpsmith@...>
 

So what was the date, in Innerchange, existing Wood Running Boards on Cars built before Jan 1 1944 had to be Replaced with Steel then?

Ron Smith
Carman UPRR

----- Original Message -----
From: guycwilber@aol.com
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 6:56 PM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] AAR Interchange dates data



In a message dated 10/27/2008 6:27:37 PM Central Daylight Time,
4everwaiting@brucetelecom.com writes:

1945 wood running boards outlawed on new cars O'Connor, Tim

Rule 3, Section (r), Paragraph (6) Running Boards, metal: All complete new
installations to box and other house cars (including type "LO" covered hopper
cars) on or after January 1, 1944, must comply with the following
specifications for Running Boards Other Than Wood, for Box and Other House Cars,
adopted as Standard Practice in 1943. In Interchange.


Kind Regards,

Guy Wilber
Brown Deer, WI
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Re: Standard Tank Cars from SC&F

W. Lindsay Smith <wlindsays2000@...>
 

I Love a Mystery!
--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Jon Cagle <jscagle@...> wrote:

Big Snip
( hhmmm, i wonder which one it will be, the 6K car, the insulated car,
only the Shadow knows ).
Little Snip

1940s radio show humor for the youngsters!
Lindsay


Re: Brass PRR X23 - Suggestions in HO Scale?

Don Burn
 

Actually, they also published a correction in 1971, though this was a partial drawing showing the corrected area around the door.

Don Burn

----- Original Message -----
From: "benjaminfrank_hom" <b.hom@worldnet.att.net>
To: <STMFC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 2:48 PM
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Brass PRR X23 - Suggestions in HO Scale?


Al Westerfield wrote:
"The MTS version was built from MR plans that had the doors opening
in the wrong direction! So go with Overland."

That drawing (which appeared in the April 1971 MR) also showed the door
to have wood sheathing! This vividly shows that you must back drawings
up with prototype photos if at all possible.

To be fair, MR did run a corrected version of the drawing with John
Nehrich's upgrade of the Cannonball Car Shops HO scale kit in the June
1986 issue.


Ben Hom




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Re: Brass PRR X23 - Suggestions in HO Scale?

benjaminfrank_hom <b.hom@...>
 

Al Westerfield wrote:
"The MTS version was built from MR plans that had the doors opening
in the wrong direction! So go with Overland."

That drawing (which appeared in the April 1971 MR) also showed the door
to have wood sheathing! This vividly shows that you must back drawings
up with prototype photos if at all possible.

To be fair, MR did run a corrected version of the drawing with John
Nehrich's upgrade of the Cannonball Car Shops HO scale kit in the June
1986 issue.


Ben Hom


Re: SP A-50-4 single sheathed auto car

Mark Pierce <marcoperforar@...>
 

Jim, I have all four of Tony's volumes and had read the A-50-4. None
of the text addressed the "AUTOMOBILE" lettering and the latest photo
was dated 1947 which showed that lettering was still on that car.
The book says that by the end of WWII all of the class were in XM
service.

Mark

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, CalifCoast <califcoast@...> wrote:

Mark,

Sounds like you need to pickup Tony's book on the SP Box Cars...

Jim Scott
Palo Alto, CA.




________________________________
From: Mark Pierce <marcoperforar@...>
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 11:12:03 PM
Subject: [STMFC] SP A-50-4 single sheathed auto car


I picked up my accumulated vaction-hold mail at the Post Office
today
and found that the SPH&TS convention car was included. This is the
Speedwitch Media kit of the A-50-4, 40' single sheathed automobile
car. It represents the upgraded version with steel ends, widened
door
openings, and under-door stiffeners. It is a beautiful kit of a very
interesting prototype.

I want to build it as a 1950 version, ala Pacific Lines. By this
time,
I understand, the cars were not in automobile service and so lacked
the
white door stripe and the words "AUTO LOADER". But I wonder, was the
word AUTOMOBILE on the two sides still appropriate for 1950? Also,
any
other advice to make it fit into 1950 would be appreciated. Thanks!

Mark Pierce



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Re: True Line Trains stockcar?

Steve SANDIFER
 

This is the Proto 1000 car
http://atsfrr.net/resources/Sandifer/Clinics/Stk/Mod/P1K.htm

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Home: 12027 Mulholland Drive, Meadows Place, TX 77477, 281-568-9918
Office: Southwest Central Church of Christ, 4011 W. Bellfort, Houston, TX 77025, 713-667-9417

----- Original Message -----
From: sctry
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 8:51 PM
Subject: [STMFC] Re: True Line Trains stockcar?


In 2004/5 Canadian Hobbycraft offered 36 ft Fowler stock car and box
cars decorated for CP and CN (multiple numbers) and packaged in Proto
1000 Series DX limited Edition display window individual boxes.
Cars feature amoung other items: diecast chassis with seperate valve,
cylinder, reservoir, Simplex bolster trucks w/ribbed back wheel
sets, "3-D Z-bars", metal grab irons, P2K couplers. The chassis is
engraved "property of Hobbycraft Canada - Made in China". Stock
cars have AB brakes whhile box cars have K.

J. Greedy

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, timboconnor@... wrote:
>
>
>
> Dennis
>
>
>
> I saw that too, and I also found a web site that listed a 36'
Fowler stock car from
>
> Proto 1000.
>
>
>
> The Canadian Model Trains web site does not list the TLT stock car.
>
>
>
> Tim
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dennis Storzek" <destorzek@...>
> To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 11:23:07 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada
Eastern
> Subject: [STMFC] True Line Trains stockcar?
>
> Someplace within the last several weeks I read a message that had a
> link to a photo of the up and coming Ture Line Trains CP 36'
stockcar.
> Was it here? I can't seem to find a photo of the model anywhere.
>
> The same message also had something about a True Line Trains 36'
> Dominion / Fowler boxcar. Is this a new effort, or the LifeLike of
> Canada effort warmed over?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dennis
>
>
>
>


Station & Reweigh Symbols revisited

Frank Greene
 

A little research this AM led me to "Station & Reweigh Symbols.xls", Jim Brewer's list in the Files. My thanks to Jim for compiling the list and his contributors for sharing their knowledge.

To add a little to the list's accuracy, Line 1543, Southern symbol "N": Norris Yard is in Irondale, AL (near Birmingham), not S. Carolina.

In addition, Line 1545, symbol "WBY" is not identified and certainly isn't intuitively obvious. Searching a 1912 station list at http://southern.railfan.net/paper/stations/1912list.pdf didn't reveal the symbol, but it could be West Baden, IN (a yard). A really remote possibility is W&B Railway Crossing at Blocton, AL, but it's nothing more than a crossing with the Woodstock & Blocton Railway. Maybe someone out there has definitive information.

--

Frank Greene
Memphis, TN

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