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Re: Pipe loads on the cheap
Schuyler Larrabee
SIX inches? How large a diameter is it? Most concrete pipe I've seen at the size of say 30"
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diameter, is around 2-2.5" wall. SGL
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Re: GM&O 21000-22419
Brian J Carlson <brian@...>
Did anyone else get 6 copies of Tim's reply?
Brian J Carlson P.E. Cheektowaga NY
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Re: Pipe loads on the cheap
Brian J Carlson <brian@...>
The Walthers pipe load should look thick as it is supposed to be concrete
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pipe. The side wall thickness should be around 6" Brian J Carlson P.E. Cheektowaga NY
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From: "Dean Payne" <1payne1@windstream.net> The pipe load from Life-Like (on sale at Walthers) looks too
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Re: GM&O 21000-22419
Lee
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from Ed Hawkin's data in RMJ 10/1999 -- GM&O series 21000-21999 blt 1947 ACF lot 3057 YSD-2A doors 1st 750, 7p SUP next 250 GM&O series 22000-22419 blt 1947 ACF lot 3141 YSD-2A doors YSD-2A: 6/6/5 Youngstown (counting from top down) all cars: 10p rivet 4/4 IDE RP roof 7-rung ladders brake? running board? trucks? Model Railroading, 4/1989 has a photo of GM&O #21690 A partial photo of GM&O #21365 shows black ends, pole pockets Tim O'Connor
I am trying to determine the origin of the entire series GM&O
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Re: GM&O 21000-22419
Lee
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from Ed Hawkin's data in RMJ 10/1999 -- GM&O series 21000-21999 blt 1947 ACF lot 3057 YSD-2A doors 1st 750, 7p SUP next 250 GM&O series 22000-22419 blt 1947 ACF lot 3141 YSD-2A doors YSD-2A: 6/6/5 Youngstown (counting from top down) all cars: 10p rivet 4/4 IDE RP roof 7-rung ladders brake? running board? trucks? Model Railroading, 4/1989 has a photo of GM&O #21690 A partial photo of GM&O #21365 shows black ends, pole pockets Tim O'Connor
I am trying to determine the origin of the entire series GM&O
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Re: GM&O 21000-22419
Lee
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from Ed Hawkin's data in RMJ 10/1999 -- GM&O series 21000-21999 blt 1947 ACF lot 3057 YSD-2A doors 1st 750, 7p SUP next 250 GM&O series 22000-22419 blt 1947 ACF lot 3141 YSD-2A doors YSD-2A: 6/6/5 Youngstown (counting from top down) all cars: 10p rivet 4/4 IDE RP roof 7-rung ladders brake? running board? trucks? Model Railroading, 4/1989 has a photo of GM&O #21690 A partial photo of GM&O #21365 shows black ends, pole pockets Tim O'Connor
I am trying to determine the origin of the entire series GM&O
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Re: GM&O 21000-22419
Lee
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from Ed Hawkin's data in RMJ 10/1999 -- GM&O series 21000-21999 blt 1947 ACF lot 3057 YSD-2A doors 1st 750, 7p SUP next 250 GM&O series 22000-22419 blt 1947 ACF lot 3141 YSD-2A doors YSD-2A: 6/6/5 Youngstown (counting from top down) all cars: 10p rivet 4/4 IDE RP roof 7-rung ladders brake? running board? trucks? Model Railroading, 4/1989 has a photo of GM&O #21690 A partial photo of GM&O #21365 shows black ends, pole pockets Tim O'Connor
I am trying to determine the origin of the entire series GM&O
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Re: GM&O 21000-22419
Lee
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from Ed Hawkin's data in RMJ 10/1999 -- GM&O series 21000-21999 blt 1947 ACF lot 3057 YSD-2A doors 1st 750, 7p SUP next 250 GM&O series 22000-22419 blt 1947 ACF lot 3141 YSD-2A doors YSD-2A: 6/6/5 Youngstown (counting from top down) all cars: 10p rivet 4/4 IDE RP roof 7-rung ladders brake? running board? trucks? Model Railroading, 4/1989 has a photo of GM&O #21690 A partial photo of GM&O #21365 shows black ends, pole pockets Tim O'Connor
I am trying to determine the origin of the entire series GM&O
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Re: GM&O 21000-22419
Lee
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from Ed Hawkin's data in RMJ 10/1999 -- GM&O series 21000-21999 blt 1947 ACF lot 3057 YSD-2A doors 1st 750, 7p SUP next 250 GM&O series 22000-22419 blt 1947 ACF lot 3141 YSD-2A doors YSD-2A: 6/6/5 Youngstown (counting from top down) all cars: 10p rivet 4/4 IDE RP roof 7-rung ladders brake? running board? trucks? Model Railroading, 4/1989 has a photo of GM&O #21690 A partial photo of GM&O #21365 shows black ends, pole pockets Tim O'Connor
I am trying to determine the origin of the entire series GM&O
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Re: GM&O 21000-22419
Lee
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from Ed Hawkin's data in RMJ 10/1999 -- GM&O series 21000-21999 blt 1947 ACF lot 3057 YSD-2A doors 1st 750, 7p SUP next 250 GM&O series 22000-22419 blt 1947 ACF lot 3141 YSD-2A doors YSD-2A: 6/6/5 Youngstown (counting from top down) all cars: 10p rivet 4/4 IDE RP roof 7-rung ladders brake? running board? trucks? Model Railroading, 4/1989 has a photo of GM&O #21690 A partial photo of GM&O #21365 shows black ends, pole pockets Tim O'Connor
I am trying to determine the origin of the entire series GM&O
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Re: GM&O 21000-22419
Lee
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from Ed Hawkin's data in RMJ 10/1999 -- GM&O series 21000-21999 blt 1947 ACF lot 3057 YSD-2A doors 1st 750, 7p SUP next 250 GM&O series 22000-22419 blt 1947 ACF lot 3141 YSD-2A doors YSD-2A: 6/6/5 Youngstown (counting from top down) all cars: 10p rivet 4/4 IDE RP roof 7-rung ladders brake? running board? trucks? Model Railroading, 4/1989 has a photo of GM&O #21690 A partial photo of GM&O #21365 shows black ends, pole pockets Tim O'Connor
I am trying to determine the origin of the entire series GM&O
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Re: GM&O 21000-22419
Lee
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from Ed Hawkin's data in RMJ 10/1999 -- GM&O series 21000-21999 blt 1947 ACF lot 3057 YSD-2A doors 1st 750, 7p SUP next 250 GM&O series 22000-22419 blt 1947 ACF lot 3141 YSD-2A doors YSD-2A: 6/6/5 Youngstown (counting from top down) all cars: 10p rivet 4/4 IDE RP roof 7-rung ladders brake? running board? trucks? Model Railroading, 4/1989 has a photo of GM&O #21690 A partial photo of GM&O #21365 shows black ends, pole pockets Tim O'Connor
I am trying to determine the origin of the entire series GM&O
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Re: GM&O 21000-22419
Lee
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from Ed Hawkin's data in RMJ 10/1999 -- GM&O series 21000-21999 blt 1947 ACF lot 3057 YSD-2A doors 1st 750, 7p SUP next 250 GM&O series 22000-22419 blt 1947 ACF lot 3141 YSD-2A doors YSD-2A: 6/6/5 Youngstown (counting from top down) all cars: 10p rivet 4/4 IDE RP roof 7-rung ladders brake? running board? trucks? Model Railroading, 4/1989 has a photo of GM&O #21690 A partial photo of GM&O #21365 shows black ends, pole pockets Tim O'Connor
I am trying to determine the origin of the entire series GM&O
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Re: Philadelphia Quartz Type 21 tank car
Brian Leppert <b.leppert@...>
--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Richard Hendrickson <rhendrickson@...>
wrote: Philadelphia Quartz... I am trying to determine what trucks were applied PQX 805-858 and 512-518 were essentially identical; both serieswere 8K gal. Type 21s. (Type 21s continued to be produced, at least asPlease don't forget Tahoe Model Works' Buckeye ARA truck. I think it's a closer match than Accurail's. Brian Leppert Tahoe Model Works Carson City, NV
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Re: ATSF 1300-Series Wood Cabooses
Jon Miller <atsf@...>
Thanks Keith. When IM gave the talk I don't remember them saying it was all new tooling. This is great. I just hope it gets done in my lifetime. I know I got pictures of the test shots of the FTs years ago and they are just starting them.
Jon Miller AT&SF For me time stopped in 1941 Digitrax, Chief/Zephyr systems, JMRI user NMRA Life member #2623 Member SFRH&MS
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Re: Pipe loads on the cheap
Dennis Williams
I agree with the straws. Put lead shot in the bottom ones with paper stuffed 1/2 inch from the end to keep them in. If you have a blaster, etch them B4 painting. If not, It will still work without. Use some small wood for cribage, thread for banding. Remember, This gives us a reason to go get junk food!! Happy Drinking!!!! Dennis
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--- On Thu, 11/27/08, Kurt Laughlin <fleeta@verizon.net> wrote:
From: Kurt Laughlin <fleeta@verizon.net> Subject: Re: [STMFC] Pipe loads on the cheap To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, November 27, 2008, 8:27 AM Have you looked at plain ol' drinking straws? These should be quite a bit bigger than stirrers and with more realistic thinwall. You can even get the larger ones (for milkshakes) from McDonalds. KL ----- Original Message ----- From: Dean Payne Are there any especially good sources for "pipe"? I've got a bunch of coffee stirrers, of course, but I don't know if there is something better. (Mine are a scale 35' 8" or so, 10" approx. OD) I seem to remember seeing something about someone who found a source of especially nice stirrers, but don't remember the source. The pipe load from Life-Like (on sale at Walthers) looks too thick-walled for my tastes (and a little too "plastic-ey" ).
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Re: Pipe loads on the cheap
Kurt Laughlin <fleeta@...>
Have you looked at plain ol' drinking straws? These should be quite a bit bigger than stirrers and with more realistic thinwall. You can even get the larger ones (for milkshakes) from McDonalds.
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KL
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From: Dean Payne Are there any especially good sources for "pipe"? I've got a bunch of coffee stirrers, of course, but I don't know if there is something better. (Mine are a scale 35' 8" or so, 10" approx. OD) I seem to remember seeing something about someone who found a source of especially nice stirrers, but don't remember the source. The pipe load from Life-Like (on sale at Walthers) looks too thick-walled for my tastes (and a little too "plastic-ey").
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Pipe loads on the cheap
Dean Payne
I've got two pending resin orders, but I've noticed that I've got a
lot of empty gons. The W&LE served the South Lorain pipe works, so I've decided to model a bunch of pipe loads. I can't afford to buy commercial loads for all these without having to reduce my resin order, so... Are there any especially good sources for "pipe"? I've got a bunch of coffee stirrers, of course, but I don't know if there is something better. (Mine are a scale 35' 8" or so, 10" approx. OD) I seem to remember seeing something about someone who found a source of especially nice stirrers, but don't remember the source. The pipe load from Life-Like (on sale at Walthers) looks too thick-walled for my tastes (and a little too "plastic-ey"). Dean Payne
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Re: ATSF 1300-Series Wood Cabooses
Keith Jordan
The steel cars were the primary waycars during my era, and rumor has it
>that a major manufacturer is coming out with those soon, a substantial >upgrade to Athearn.< Intermountain has plans to do the back-dated version of this car that was originally produced by Centiala. They had drawings but not samples at the National in SoCa. Supected date is '09 but then we know how dates are! Jon and Others, Intermountain has started on the tooling for the Santa Fe all-steel waycars. To clarify Jon's statement, the tooling is all-new, not a back-dated version of the Centralia Car Shops car (thankfully), though it will be marketed under the Centralia banner. The cars will be offered in several versions (wood or steel tool cellars, brake equipment, runningboard combinations, platform railings, wig-wag/ highball signals, etc.). Other railroads used a very similar, if not identical ACF design: SLSF, GT, IHB, CRR, to name a few. Happy Thanksgiving to all. Keith Jordan
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Re: P&LE 36' DS box trucks
Dean Payne
The car number on the F&C website is 32329, I'm not sure what the
series was. However, the lot number is 275B. I'm looking for what trucks it would have had in 1937 (I realize that there might have been a couple of different styles at this stage.) Dean Payne --- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Richard Hendrickson <rhendrickson@...> wrote: to stick under it to get it on the layout. The F&C website has a photo of the kit with Kadee Andrews trucks (for what that's worth), but the only cast sideframe trucks? I can't read the lot number on the onlineprototype photo I've seen has regual cast (what the mfgrs. list photo, and don't remember what it is on the decal... hard to help without a lot number or number series.
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