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Re: P2K Tank Cars

ATSF1226
 

All the 8K Tank Cars are gone. Still have 6 10K cars left.

George A Walls

-- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "George A. Walls" <atsf1226@...> wrote:

If anyone needs anymore of the P2K Tank Cars, contact me off list.
All
undec's, 8 & 10k. Same price as Andy's.

George A Walls


I am sold out on the P2K tank cars. Sold 18 in one hour.
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA




nice paint job

ed_mines
 

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "jerryglow2" <jerryglow@...> wrote:
I used them to complete my otherwise
Champ and ALPS lettered car as can be seen:
http://home.comcast.net/~jerryglow/modeling/ART.html
Nice job of painting the hinges Jerry. Any hints?

Ed Mines


Re: New ART steel reefer

jerryglow2
 

I corresponded with Ed and he replied
"You are correct that Oddballs decal set 548 for the wood reefer
should provide the heralds to modify the steel reefer offered by the
MPHS/Amarillo RR Museum to update the scheme for the 24000-24449
steel cars to the scheme applied 1948-1950."

He did state he hasn't seen the set to verify it's accuracy but for
the purpose here should be fine. I used them to complete my otherwise
Champ and ALPS lettered car as can be seen:
http://home.comcast.net/~jerryglow/modeling/ART.html

Jerry Glow

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Ed Hawkins <hawk0621@...> wrote:



The interim scheme was just like the original scheme except a MP
buzzsaw emblem (red and white with a blue border) was applied to
the
left side of the car over the reporting marks and a small Wabash
flag
was in the same position on the right side of the car. The interim
scheme was used for only about two years. Photos of repainted ART
reefers in the interim scheme are pretty scarce. Photos of the
interim
scheme have been more commonly found on series 26900-27999 that
were
built new in mid-1948 and originally lettered in the interim scheme.

...... If the right decals were available for
the buzzsaw and flag, the 1948-1950 interim scheme could easily be
created by using the original model and adding the decals.

Regards,
Ed Hawkins


Re: B&O M-53 Wagon Top - any hope of a plastic model in our future?

golden1014
 

If you guys really want a high-quality, plastic M-53, just wait about
two months. I just started my F&C car, and it'll take me about two
months to get it finished. The announcement of a better, less
expensive, much less labor intensive model will follow shortly
thereafter.

John Golden
Bloomington, IN


--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "benjaminfrank_hom" <b.hom@...> wrote:

Garth Groff wrote:
"I agree that Sunshine or F&C's resin kits would give a superior
model. I have one of the Sunshine cars (unbuilt, of course :-D ).
But the original question concerned a plastic kit, and that's what
Cannonball's is."

Dean Payne added:
"I think the original post may have been referring to this from
2005,
which gave me hope that a plastic wagon top would be available in
the
foreseeable future:
'Why want a plastic wagon top (besides the already mentioned
Cannonball kit with it's [sic] problems)? I hear the Sunshine is a
bit of a challenge to get the sides on without gaps, the Funaro &
Camerlengo kit is allegedly top-heavy due to the thick sides... It
is
available in the M-15K rebuild and M53 versions, which adds some
nice
variation. The thing is, they do other more obscure and less
distinctive freight cars in plastic, why not the wagon tops?'"

The B&O Class M-53 was one of several prototypes allegedly tooled
in
HO by a certain individual back in 2004-2006. Since then, no
models
have been produced and no other status is known. This is a big
sticking point, as many injection-molded manufacturers are not
willing to risk investing in models being done by someone else,
especially if it's perceived as a "one road" or "limited appeal"
prototype.

Anyone know more about this situation?


Ben Hom


Re: SP DF B-50-22

David North <davenorth@...>
 

Brian Carlson wrote:
"A pet peeve I wish manufacturers would leave item numbers and
thumbnail views of sold out/OOP cars on their websites for those of us
trying to track down old cars."





If you tick the following box in the Walthers advanced search window,

You'll find many of the OOP kits and models listed.



"include discontinued out of stock products"



Cheers

Dave North

Unrepentant OOP kit collector (VBG)


Re: P2K Tank Cars

ATSF1226
 

If anyone needs anymore of the P2K Tank Cars, contact me off list. All
undec's, 8 & 10k. Same price as Andy's.

George A Walls

I am sold out on the P2K tank cars. Sold 18 in one hour.
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA


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P2K Tank Cars

Andy Carlson
 

I am sold out on the P2K tank cars. Sold 18 in one hour.
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA


2008 Cocoa Beach PRR X45 Boxcar.

Denny Anspach <danspach@...>
 

May I again gently urge all of you who attended Greg Martin's ShakeTake clinic at Cocoa Beach in 2008, and will be attending 8-11 January 2009, to not forget to bring along their models, no matter what the stage of completion. We all learn so much from others when we see how others address, or are addressing common modeling problems. When I saw how Mont Switzer treated the 2007 car project, I felt that I had to go to Confession before straightening up and flying right- and I'm not Catholic.

Choosing different car numbers adds to the interest when the models are massed together, although this is by no means necessary.


Denny

Denny S. Anspach MD
Sacramento


Sinclair Tank car

Andy Carlson
 

--- On Sun, 12/21/08, Wayne Whitlow <k4rzw@bellsouth.net> wrote:

........ An alternative is to use undecorated P2K
kits (which
are also had to find)
I have a good number of fresh, never been opened, LifeLike P2K kits of undecorated 10000 gallon tank cars. These cars are specially priced at $7.00 each, plus shipping.

-Andy Carlson
<midcentury@sbcglobal.net>
Ojai CA


Re: Sinclair tanks

Steve SANDIFER
 

Ebay. You will find them if patient.
______________
J. Stephen (Steve) Sandifer
mailto:steve.sandifer@sbcglobal.net
Home: 12027 Mulholland Drive, Meadows Place, TX 77477, 281-568-9918
Office: Southwest Central Church of Christ, 4011 W. Bellfort, Houston, TX 77025, 713-667-9417

----- Original Message -----
From: Schuyler Larrabee
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 4:31 PM
Subject: RE: [STMFC] Sinclair tanks


> Proto did the Sinclair tank cars in both uninsulated and insulated 10k
> versions. I have a few in the basement. Sorry SGL. not for sale.
>
> Brian J Carlson P.E.
> Cheektowaga NY

Well, thanks for the info, Brian, but . . . . geez, that's just . . . mean!!

;^)

SGL


Re: QUESTIONS

Steve SANDIFER
 

SFRD
17851 - RR-25, 333 in 1961, Intermountain model
18700 - RR-28, 304 in 1961, Intermountain model.
10756 - RR-46, 700 in 1961, Intermountain model
12551 - RR-51, 475 in 1961, Plug door, Sunshine Resin Model
All 40' Ice Bunker reefers
______________
J. Stephen (Steve) Sandifer
mailto:steve.sandifer@sbcglobal.net
Home: 12027 Mulholland Drive, Meadows Place, TX 77477, 281-568-9918
Office: Southwest Central Church of Christ, 4011 W. Bellfort, Houston, TX 77025, 713-667-9417

----- Original Message -----
From: joel norman
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 7:38 AM
Subject: [STMFC] QUESTIONS


Gentleman..Merry Chirstmas and a Blessed 2009..
As a early Chirstmas gift I was given a stack of BAR Switch List(called
Conductors Tally)for most of 1961.What I found interesting and odd was
there were a good many SFRD cars.
SFRD 18700
17851
12551
10756
Also a car with the reporting marks KPCX(loaded with TAR)anything on
this car?What Id like to know what the SFRD cars were:bunker/mech or
insulated????Since my cut off date is summer 1962(Maine)want to see if
these cars can be modeled in HO.
Hope you can help
Joel Norman--Eastern Maine Rly(aka B&ML)


Re: B&O wagontop box

Bob McCarthy
 

Jim,
 
    Sign me up for six of the Scale S ones.  When do you plan to produce them?
 
Bob

--- On Sat, 12/20/08, Jim King <jimking3@charter.net> wrote:

From: Jim King <jimking3@charter.net>
Subject: [STMFC] B&O wagontop box
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, December 20, 2008, 4:37 PM






Is there sufficient interest to produce a 1-pc body B&O M53 or the like in
HO resin using my CAD/SLA technology? If so, I'll give it serious thought
as I'm designing the S scale version in 2009.

Jim King

Smoky Mountain Model Works, Inc.

www.smokymountainmo delworks. com

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Re: SP DF B-50-22

Ned Carey <nedspam@...>
 

Brian Carlson wrote:
"A pet peeve I wish manufacturers would leave item numbers and
thumbnail views of sold out/OOP cars on their websites for those of us
trying to track down old cars."

I'll third that. Web space is almost free. It amazes me that sellers don't take the time to describe their products well on the web. It is easy and esentially free to do so.

While not a freight car, MRC website for their decoders is the worst. Why bother making different products if you are not going to tell the public what is different about them?

For those manufacturers that frequent this list, please put good information on the web, we will buy more if you do.

Ned Carey


Re: SP DF B-50-22

waynewhitlow
 

Richard is correct on the Sinclair Proto 2000 10K gal. cars in two
styles, insulated and uninsulated. They came in kits, time-saver kits
and assembled. However, it has been tough to track down any of the
cars. In the past year, I have been able to find kits for both styles
and only one assembled model, but they are scarce and it took a lot of
time on the internet checking the inventories of almost every hobby
shop that has a searchable data base. Walthers does list them all if
you include out-of-stock in your search. There was one dealer in
Europe that had a couple of cars several months ago, but there was no
way to order online. An alternative is to use undecorated kits (which
are also had to find) and the Champ Sinclair decal sets which are
still available. The only problem there is that as Richard pointed
out in a previous post, the Champ set is for a 8K gal. car which
Sinclair did not own. Good luck.

Wayne Whitlow

On Dec 21, 2008, at 2:13 PM, Schuyler Larrabee wrote:

Thanks, Richard, that's probably the one I saw advertized. And this
is probably the lead I need to
find it.

I somehow thought it was a Red Caboose model . . .

SGL

-----Original Message-----
From: STMFC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:STMFC@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Richard Hendrickson
Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 1:23 PM
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: SP DF B-50-22

On Dec 21, 2008, at 9:49 AM, Schuyler Larrabee wrote:

I'd second Brian's comment. I'm sometimes wondering if someone
made
a particular car already, or if
I need to do some additional work to make one. One in particular
is
that somebody made a tank car
lettered for SINCLAIR a few years ago; I know that I saw the car
advertised, and thought "I'd like
one or two of those." But it was only five or six months later
that
the passing thought returned,
and I could not find that original advert again. Nor could I find
any reference to it in
manufacturers' web pages. Sure, likely sold out, but it would not
be the first time I've had to
web-crawl dealer's shelves looking for unsold new stock.
Schuyler, several manufacturers (e.g., Athearn, Red Caboose) have
produced bogus models with Sinclair P/L, but the only accurate model
I'm aware of is a Proto 2000 10K gal. One or two of those shouldn't
be too hard to track down on the resale market.

Richard Hendrickson







Terry Wegmann's R-40-21 kit availability

Andy Carlson
 

--- On Sun, 12/21/08, radius158 <gard158@hotmail.com> wrote:

Are any of terry Wegmann's kits still available? if
so, where? Doug Gardner
I have a few of Terry Wegmann's HO R-40-21 kits available in the black hardware version. Priced at $18.00, trucks couplers and decals are not included. Contact me at <midcentury@sbcglobal.net> if interested. I should have some R-30-18 kits in both Orange and Black hardware versions, plus Orange hardware R-40-21 kits, as well available this Spring.
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA


Re: Sinclair tanks

Schuyler Larrabee
 

Proto did the Sinclair tank cars in both uninsulated and insulated 10k
versions. I have a few in the basement. Sorry SGL. not for sale.

Brian J Carlson P.E.
Cheektowaga NY
Well, thanks for the info, Brian, but . . . . geez, that's just . . . mean!!

;^)

SGL


Re: LIFE-LIKE OOP CARS (was SP DF B-50-22)

Paul Lyons
 

Ben Hom wrote:

Life-Like used to maintain a list of sold-out and OOP cars on their P2K
website; sadly, that went away when Walthers bought the line.

Kadee maintains a list of sold-out/OOP models.

Ben Hom



By chance does anyone have the old Life-Like P2K list of sold out or OOP freight cars?

Paul Lyons
Laguna Niguel, CA?


Sinclair tanks

Brian J Carlson <brian@...>
 

Proto did the Sinclair tank cars in both uninsulated and insulated 10k
versions. I have a few in the basement. Sorry SGL. not for sale.

Brian J Carlson P.E.
Cheektowaga NY


Re: B&O M-53 Wagon Top - any hope of a plastic model in our future?

rfederle@...
 

Might be worth a second try at getting permission. You never know. They may have a change of heart.

A similar situation in Hamilton Ohio. There is a PRR Brick Freight House standing and is now a scrap dealers office. It too sits behind fencing and only one or two sides visible to photograph. I e-mailed the owner and surprisingly have been granted permission. I explained that I wanted to photograph the entire exterior and they told me to call before comimng. I should be up that way in a few months.

Give another shot, if you want to.

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.

Robert Federle
---- RUTLANDRS@aol.com wrote:


About 10 years ago, I tried to convince Life Like to produce a "wagon top",
and was informed that they wanted cars that were bought by at least 10 roads.
I tried to impress the fact of the ubiquitous ness of this car with no luck.
Still today, one sits on the ground at a very small scrap dealer in
Danville, Virginia as a storage shed. It is a faded green with no trucks and no
way to get photos. It's behind a cyclone fence next to US 58 that has no place
to pull off and the folks at the yard are very much less than friendly.
I went with a couple of F&C kits and like them. In O scale, a few years
ago 3rd Rail (Sunset) offered these at $150.00, along with the "wagon top"
covered hopper and caboose at the same price.
Chuck Hladik
Rutland Railroad
Virginia Division.



In a message dated 12/21/2008 10:22:55 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
bakert@andrews.edu writes:






It is interesting that some modelers apparently consider the B&O M-53 wagon
top a model with limited appeal. True enough, the car was unique to the B&O,
but didn't it show up on almost every railroad in the country. We certainly
saw numerous examples on railroads around Minneapolis/O, but didn't it show up
on almost ever&O.

Yes, the car was unique to the B&O; but, like the MILW horizonatally-O;
but, like the MILW horizonatally-<WBR>ribbed cars, so

Tom

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Re: SP DF B-50-22

Schuyler Larrabee
 

Thanks, Richard, that's probably the one I saw advertized. And this is probably the lead I need to
find it.

I somehow thought it was a Red Caboose model . . .

SGL

-----Original Message-----
From: STMFC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:STMFC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Hendrickson
Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 1:23 PM
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: SP DF B-50-22

On Dec 21, 2008, at 9:49 AM, Schuyler Larrabee wrote:

I'd second Brian's comment. I'm sometimes wondering if someone made
a particular car already, or if
I need to do some additional work to make one. One in particular is
that somebody made a tank car
lettered for SINCLAIR a few years ago; I know that I saw the car
advertised, and thought "I'd like
one or two of those." But it was only five or six months later that
the passing thought returned,
and I could not find that original advert again. Nor could I find
any reference to it in
manufacturers' web pages. Sure, likely sold out, but it would not
be the first time I've had to
web-crawl dealer's shelves looking for unsold new stock.
Schuyler, several manufacturers (e.g., Athearn, Red Caboose) have
produced bogus models with Sinclair P/L, but the only accurate model
I'm aware of is a Proto 2000 10K gal. One or two of those shouldn't
be too hard to track down on the resale market.

Richard Hendrickson





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