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Re: New Intermountain Cars
Joseph
Sent in an order via email to Speedwitch last week, received email from Ted 2 days later, kit within a week
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Joe Binish
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From: "Tim O'Connor" <timboconnor@...> To: <STMFC@...> Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 5:44 PM Subject: [STMFC] Re: New Intermountain Cars Speaking of Ted, has anyone heard from him lately? I
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Re: New Intermountain Cars
Paul Lyons
Tim,
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I spent a fair amount of time with him in Cocco Beach. He has wayyy "to many irons in the fire", other than that he is fine. Don't know what you ordered, but he has had some casting issues. Paul Lyons Laguna Nigel, CA 92677
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From: Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> To: STMFC@... Sent: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 3:44 pm Subject: [STMFC] Re: New Intermountain Cars Speaking of Ted, has anyone heard from him lately? I sent an email (regarding a Speedwitch order) a couple of weeks ago but no reply... Tim O'Connor Hi Dave,
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Re: New Intermountain Cars
Chet
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Were the Wabash AAR flat cars painted black, or oxide red? Tim O'
Bruce,
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Re: New Intermountain Cars
gn3397 <heninger@...>
--- In STMFC@..., "Hunter, James R." <jhunter@...> wrote:
From photos I have seen, the IM GN Plywood cars are solid 3-footers. Biggest gripes: The side sill detail is too shallow, I think the sheathing attachment bolts are too large, and on the painted orange and green examples I have seen, they are painted incorrectly. The sides of the ends should be green. It's too bad they couldn't have executed these cars as well as their covered hoppers. Bottom line: I am a GN modeler, and I will be sticking with my Sunshine cars. Sincerely, Robert D. Heninger Iowa City, IA
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Re: New Intermountain Cars
Speaking of Ted, has anyone heard from him lately? I
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sent an email (regarding a Speedwitch order) a couple of weeks ago but no reply... Tim O'Connor
Hi Dave,
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Re: Lindberg Line
jerryglow2
UP CA1. As to how close, I cannot answer.
Jerry Glow --- In STMFC@..., "David North" <davenorth@...> wrote: caboose have a prototype, please?
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Re: Lindberg Line
David North <davenorth@...>
While we are discussing older manufacturers, does the Revell wood caboose
have a prototype, please? Cheers Dave
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Re: Resin kit problems...
Jim King
As you'll recall, I was the first to manufacture resin freight car kits. At
the time Athearn kits were selling for $3.50. We had to charge almost 5 times that much. I was really scared that the market would not support such a price. We came in that low only by using 55 gallon drums of polyester. The urethane we now use costs 5 times as much, ruins molds rapidly and must be handled in very dry conditions - none of which were problems for polyester. And one piece car bodies take 3 times as long to make as flat castings. So as things have become much easier for the modeler the opposite is true for the manufacturer. - Al Westerfield Amen, Brother Westerfield! Jim King Smoky Mountain Model Works, Inc. <http://www.smokymountainmodelworks.com>
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Re: New Intermountain Cars
Chet French <cfrench@...>
--- In STMFC@..., Bruce Smith <smithbf@...> wrote:
Dave, detailed histories for the 70 ton AAR car. From the web site I get:of 70 ton flats (the PRR F30A is the only other one that comes tomind), these may have to be represented in higher percentages than wouldbe seen nationally as "stand-ins" for other 70 ton flats. Clearly,the NYC fleet should be represented, perhaps by more than one car, anda DTI car can be used (perhaps with a home-road load from theDetroit Tank Arsenal? Finally, ATSF, NH, PM, Wab and CRP can be includedif the dates work, however, my memory says that several of the "1944" Bruce, You can scratch the Wabash cars. 37 cars were built in Feb., and the remaining 13 in March 1945 at the Wabash's Decatur shop. At the time they were placed into service, they were the only flat cars in revenue service on the railroad. I am surprised they weren't built earlier to help in the war effort. Chet French Dixon, IL
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Re: New Intermountain Cars
naptownprr
I just received my Intermountain GN plywood boxcar. Anyone care to comment on its accuracy?
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Jim Quoting Peter Ness <prness@...>:
Hi Dave,
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Re: Lindberg Line
Richard Hendrickson
On Jan 22, 2009, at 10:30 AM, benjaminfrank_hom wrote:
...The gon is an Erie prototype, 2000 built by Standard Steel Car Original numbers were 43000-44999. The 749 cars rebuilt into quad hoppers got the letter H prefixed to their numbers. From late 1937 to mid-1939 600 cars were rebuilt with drop doors removed and solid steel floors and AB air brakes applied. They were renumbered 45000-45599 and, with some judicious re-detailing, can be modeled with the Lindberg/Mantua models. Richard Hendrickson
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Re: New Intermountain Cars
Peter Ness
Hi Dave,
The New Haven 17300-series flats were built in 1944 by Greenville this is the IM car (or the old Sunshine kit, if you have one). Ted C's excellent model of a New Haven flat (K-102)represents the 17200- series which was in service earlier. For all STMFC modelers, additional info on New Haven Freight Cars is always available on my web site on the freight car page; http://www.freewebs.com/newhavenrailroad1959/newhavenfreightcars.htm Just pay no attention to the post '60 stuff...there isn't much of it to avoid <VBG> Regards, Peter --- In STMFC@..., "devansprr" <devans1@...> wrote: <snip> IM's site now lists 4 of the flats scheduled for May/Jun delivery, in roads ATSF, B&O, Erie and New Haven. My '43 ORER only shows the Erie flats (50 cars). Was this carproduced in quantity during WWII, or was it primarily a post war car (in numbers produced). Does anyone know if the ATSF, B&O, and New Haven bought these flats during'43 & '44? <snip> Thanks for any help - trying to balance a WWII fleet.
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modeling cable on a crane
Robert <riverob@...>
My wife uses stretchable monofilament line intended for jewlery
making & beading- available in different sizes at beading stores, it's quite strong & flexible. Rob Simpson --- In STMFC@..., "al_brown03" <abrown@...> wrote: working on. Does anyone have a good suggestion for what to use to model the cable? <SNIP>crane. It is a monofilament so it looks like cable, not thread. I also useNed, this for the cable tie-downs on many of my loads.
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New file uploaded to STMFC
STMFC@...
Hello,
This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the STMFC group. File : /PRRT&HS Flat Car Book Order Form Winter 2008.pdf Uploaded by : benjaminfrank_hom <b.hom@...> Description : PRRT&HS Flat Car Book Order Form You can access this file at the URL: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/STMFC/files/PRRT%26HS%20Flat%20Car%20Book%20Order%20Form%20Winter%202008.pdf To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit: http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/groups/original/members/web/index.htmlfiles Regards, benjaminfrank_hom <b.hom@...>
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Re: New PRR flat car book
benjaminfrank_hom <b.hom@...>
Ed Sutorik wrote:
"New book about PRR flatcars (I received mine in the mail yesterday): "Pennsylvania Railroad Flat Cars, Revenue & Work Equipment, 1881 to 1968" by Elden Gatwood & Al Buchan It's a 118 page book with lots of really well reproduced photos. There's a lot of body and captions too, but I haven't got to reading that yet. Many of the photos show loads, something that can transfer over to modelers interested in other railroads. It's of particular interest to those of us who've bought the various PRR brass depressed, well, and heavy duty flats over the years. It is an excellent complement to the series on modeling these cars that has appeared in the Pennsy modelers on-line magazine. If you like odd cars, Pennsy cars, flat cars, I recommend this book. It's published by the Pennsylvania Railroad Technical & Historical Society and is available through them." Ed, thanks for the plug! I've uploaded a PDF copy of the order form in the group Files. Ben Hom
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Re: Resin kit problems...
Westerfield <westerfield@...>
As you'll recall, I was the first to manufacture resin freight car kits. At the time Athearn kits were selling for $3.50. We had to charge almost 5 times that much. I was really scared that the market would not support such a price. We came in that low only by using 55 gallon drums of polyester. The urethane we now use costs 5 times as much, ruins molds rapidly and must be handled in very dry conditions - none of which were problems for polyester. And one piece car bodies take 3 times as long to make as flat castings. So as things have become much easier for the modeler the opposite is true for the manufacturer. - Al Westerfield
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From: Andy Carlson To: STMFC@... Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 12:35 PM Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: Resin kit problems... Resin (polyurethane) manufacturers are numerous, and so many resin variations are available to suit their clients with a challenging array of different production situations that few generalizations can be made. Not all, and perhaps not even"Most" resins are white. A white resin tends to be a more expensive resin. Off-whites and yellows are frequently less expensive. I have used products from Permatex and later from B&J of Tustin, CA that were yellow. These were offered as economical alternatives, and Permatex's was called "Castmaster"(if my memory can be trusted). I stepped up to the pure whites for two reasons-tinting to grey and reduced shrinking. I paid an extra $30.00/gallon kit for these options. Properties of resin include mixing viscosity, pot life, demold time, shrinking rates, cured resin hardness, bubble retention,temperature exposure ranges, and more. The challenge is to get the properties most important, for finding a perfect resin is unlikely. The service reps also talk about how heat curing many of the resins makes for a more stable part with less chance of post mold-removal warping, though not all resins have this heat curing property. One generalization that I will make, most of today's resin casters are using a product which gives them useful parts. The junk resins are mostly not used. Cured resin is very stable, and future anthropologists may find religious icons of 20th century train gods in old landfills, still recognized as railroad cars and sharing space with plastic water bottles. -Andy Carlson Ojai CA --- On Thu, 1/22/09, Denny Anspach <danspach@...> wrote: > 2) Color is no clue as to resin quality. Normal color is > white, but > because this color causes such perception problems (the end > user often > cannot perceive sufficient detail to properly orient or fit > parts- a > problem shared by many with all-black styrene parts!), a > color > additive (commonly shades of gray) is added to the resin > mix.
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Re: modeling cable on a crane
al_brown03
Bruce's tie-downs caught my eye at Cocoa Beach because they're all
straight not bowed, as though in tension like the 1:1 thing. They look that way because they *are* in tension: the EZ-line stretches. Gorgeous. Al Brown, Melbourne, Fla. --- In STMFC@..., Bruce Smith <smithbf@...> wrote: the crane.cable?<SNIP> isAny suggestions? Is there a group specifically for modeling MOWNed, a monofilament so it looks like cable, not thread. I also usethis for the cable tie-downs on many of my loads.________________________________ |- ______/ O O \_______ -| | __ __ __ __ __ __ ____ | | / 4999 PENNSYLVANIA 4999 \ |||__||__||__||__||__||__||__||__|| |/_____________________________\|_|________________________________| | O--O \0 0 0 0/ O--O | 0-0-0 0-0-0
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Re: modeling cable on a crane
Greg Martin
I have found that quilting thread is the best to simulate cable in HO Scale. It doesn't have the "fuzz" that other thread has. You can generally find a nice dark brown that works real well and their are different thicknesses.
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Greg Martin
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From: Ned Carey <nedspam@...> To: STMFC@... Sent: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 1:59 am Subject: [STMFC] modeling cable on a crane I have a Barnhart log loader (a type of crane) that I am working on. Does anyone have a good suggestion for what to use to model the cable? I bought some thread for model ship building but was disappointed. Despite the description, it had fuzz. Apparently modelers use beeswax to cut down on the fuzz but that seems like it would make it look even less like a cable. I also thought of using some fine gauge wire, excess from a dcc decoder for example, and strip off the insulation. While this gives a good look, my fear is the slightest jostling and the cable will get visible kinks. Part of the problem is the "hook", actually more of a tong, is very light. This means there is very little weight to pull the cable tight. This must be a common problem for anyone who has modeled a crane. Any suggestions? Is there a group specifically for modeling MOW equipment? Thanks, Ned Carey
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NYC municipal photo archives
ed_mines
--- In STMFC@..., " Westerfield" <westerfield@...> wrote:
"....... a limited number of photos are now on their web site and more are being added all the time. Whose web site? NYC? WNYE? A specific program by name with a web site? Al, have you ever gone through the photos? There must be millions. Ed
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Re: Resin kit problems...
Andy Carlson
Resin (polyurethane) manufacturers are numerous, and so many resin variations are available to suit their clients with a challenging array of different production situations that few generalizations can be made. Not all, and perhaps not even"Most" resins are white. A white resin tends to be a more expensive resin. Off-whites and yellows are frequently less expensive. I have used products from Permatex and later from B&J of Tustin, CA that were yellow. These were offered as economical alternatives, and Permatex's was called "Castmaster"(if my memory can be trusted). I stepped up to the pure whites for two reasons-tinting to grey and reduced shrinking. I paid an extra $30.00/gallon kit for these options. Properties of resin include mixing viscosity, pot life, demold time, shrinking rates, cured resin hardness, bubble retention,temperature exposure ranges, and more. The challenge is to get the properties most important, for finding a perfect resin is
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unlikely. The service reps also talk about how heat curing many of the resins makes for a more stable part with less chance of post mold-removal warping, though not all resins have this heat curing property. One generalization that I will make, most of today's resin casters are using a product which gives them useful parts. The junk resins are mostly not used. Cured resin is very stable, and future anthropologists may find religious icons of 20th century train gods in old landfills, still recognized as railroad cars and sharing space with plastic water bottles. -Andy Carlson Ojai CA
--- On Thu, 1/22/09, Denny Anspach <danspach@...> wrote:
2) Color is no clue as to resin quality. Normal color is
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