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Re: AMB Wheels Masks

Steve Lucas <stevelucas3@...>
 

Bill--

This is good to know. I'll order some at my LHS.

Thanks,

Steve Lucas.

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "W.R.Dixon" <WRDixon@...> wrote:

Steve Lucas wrote:
I've used a few methods over the years to model oily wheel faces on
STMFC's fitted with plain bearing trucks. The first was the old
modeller's standby, Floquil Grimy Black. I then used Polly-S Oily
Black. This I was most satisfied with, when Floquil discontinued this
colour. If only they'd bring it back!!!!
Still shows as available both at Walthers and on the Testors web site.

Bill Dixon


Re: Looking for Frank Peacock

Aley, Jeff A
 

Al and Bill,

That's the old address, but mail sent there should get forwarded.

I'll send you guys the new address off list.

Regards,

-Jeff


________________________________
From: STMFC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:STMFC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Westerfield
Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2009 6:57 AM
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Looking for Frank Peacock


Bill - Frank's address: 5741 Osuna Road N.E., Apt. 811, Albuquerque, MN87109-2571 - Al
----- Original Message -----
From: lnbill
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com<mailto:STMFC%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2009 7:31 AM
Subject: [STMFC] Looking for Frank Peacock

I am trying to locate Frank Peacock, who recently moved from
Albuquerque, NM. Frank is known by many of us who love freight cars.
Phone or mailing address would be appreciated if anyone knows.

Bill Welch
bwelch@uucf.org<mailto:bwelch%40uucf.org>


Re: PMcK&Y (was Fascinated by the Obscure)

sparachuk <sparachuk@...>
 

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:


Any "patched" car shots? Did they do that back then?

Tim O'


On Feb 7, 2009, at 3:59 PM, Tim O'Connor wrote:
Rats! I guess I will have to reletter my Tichy box car. Were any
of the rebuilt cars (as represented by the Tichy model) relettered
and renumbered for P&LE? And if so, in what series?
Tim: Sorry I can't give you a proper date but Ted Cullota did a piece
in his Essential Freight Car series in RMC a few years back on USRA SS
boxcars and he included a rebuilt P&LE Tichy car that he modified with
a new Red Caboose roof. His excellent new NYC decal set includes the
necessary lettering.
Stephan Parachuk
Toronto


Re: Looking for Frank Peacock

Westerfield <westerfield@...>
 

Bill - Frank's address: 5741 Osuna Road N.E., Apt. 811, Albuquerque, MN87109-2571 - Al

----- Original Message -----
From: lnbill
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2009 7:31 AM
Subject: [STMFC] Looking for Frank Peacock


I am trying to locate Frank Peacock, who recently moved from
Albuquerque, NM. Frank is known by many of us who love freight cars.
Phone or mailing address would be appreciated if anyone knows.

Bill Welch
bwelch@uucf.org


Looking for Frank Peacock

lnbill <bwelch@...>
 

I am trying to locate Frank Peacock, who recently moved from
Albuquerque, NM. Frank is known by many of us who love freight cars.
Phone or mailing address would be appreciated if anyone knows.

Bill Welch
bwelch@uucf.org


Re: AMB Wheels Masks

W.R.Dixon
 

Steve Lucas wrote:
I've used a few methods over the years to model oily wheel faces on
STMFC's fitted with plain bearing trucks. The first was the old
modeller's standby, Floquil Grimy Black. I then used Polly-S Oily
Black. This I was most satisfied with, when Floquil discontinued this
colour. If only they'd bring it back!!!!
Still shows as available both at Walthers and on the Testors web site.

Bill Dixon


Re: another film

Schuyler Larrabee
 

Netflix has a "The Little Rascals, the complete series" eight disk set, which doesn't include this
title, but does include a title "Choo Choo" on the third disk. Does anybody know if "Choo Choo" is
a retitling of "The Little Rascals in Railroadin' "?

SGL

A friend sent me a copy of The Little Rascals in Railroadin', a shrt circa 1930 with the kids
inadvertantly starting an
ATSF loco and their adventures. Plenty of steam, lots of trackage, some freight. Worth a watch. -
Al Westerfield


Re: another film

CJ Riley
 

For any of you in the Seattle area, the NMRA division has this in their video library. I have a copy and highly recommend it. Lots of freight cars in the back ground.

CJ Riley

--- On Sat, 2/7/09, Westerfield <westerfield@charter.net> wrote:
From: Westerfield <westerfield@charter.net>
Subject: [STMFC] another film
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, February 7, 2009, 1:26 PM












A friend sent me a copy of The Little Rascals in Railroadin', a shrt circa 1930 with the kids inadvertantly starting an ATSF loco and their adventures. Plenty of steam, lots of trackage, some freight. Worth a watch. - Al Westerfield



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Re: AMB Wheels Masks

Schuyler Larrabee
 

Chuck, I read "in our timeframe" as meaning in the timeframe of this list . . . .

SGL

Might we remark that this is the STEAM era freight car list?
Steam locomotives tend to shed oil and grease outside the rail so not
all that roadbed staining is due to solid bearings on the cars.
Some got flung off side rods.
Chuck Peck

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:STMFC%40yahoogroups.com> , "Steve Lucas" <stevelucas3@...>
wrote:

If you look at photos of mainline track in our timeframe, you'll see
that the rails are often oily black to the outside of the track, and
rusty on the inside. This was a result of oil sprayed off wheelsets.
And yes, this oil had leaked from plain bearing journal boxes.

Steve Lucas.


Re: "Fascinated by the obscure"

George Courtney
 

Pure suppositon, but Southern loaded some coke in open hoppers which
could have been sent to the eastern Pa. area to a foundry or steel
mill and then were reloaded and sent into New England from there
rather than returned home.

George Courtney

On Sat, February 7, 2009 8:15 am, A. Premo wrote:
Well,maybe not so obscure,but seeing an IC stock car,a
Southern and
CBQ
hopper in northern New England left me scratching my
head .Armand Premo

Armand,

The hoppers are a puzzle someone else might address, but coming
up with a
plausible story for the stock car is relatively easy. Clearly,
it came
from the west, most likely the Chicago area. I don't know how
much
finished beef ended up being shipped for slaughter to New
England from
Chicago but that is definitely one possibility. Large amounts
certainly
traveled as far as New York. This car would simply have been an
available
empty at the point of loading. Headed in the "wrong direction"
according
to car service rules, but hey, they needed an empty (and we all
know by
now that car service rules were often ignored at the local
level)!
Another option would be the transfer of breeding cattle (most
likely
dairy) from a location on the IC to the location in New
England. After
all, it is doubtful that the IC had an empty Rutland car on hand
to load
<VBG>.


Regards
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL



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Re: AMB Wheels Masks

lnnrr <lnnrr@...>
 

Might we remark that this is the STEAM era freight car list?
Steam locomotives tend to shed oil and grease outside the rail so not
all that roadbed staining is due to solid bearings on the cars.
Some got flung off side rods.
Chuck Peck

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Steve Lucas" <stevelucas3@...> wrote:

If you look at photos of mainline track in our timeframe, you'll see
that the rails are often oily black to the outside of the track, and
rusty on the inside. This was a result of oil sprayed off wheelsets.
And yes, this oil had leaked from plain bearing journal boxes.

Steve Lucas.


Re: PMcK&Y (was Fascinated by the Obscure)

Tim O'Connor
 

Any "patched" car shots? Did they do that back then?

Tim O'

On Feb 7, 2009, at 3:59 PM, Tim O'Connor wrote:
Rats! I guess I will have to reletter my Tichy box car. Were any
of the rebuilt cars (as represented by the Tichy model) relettered
and renumbered for P&LE? And if so, in what series?
Yes, I have photos and will send you a scan or two when I have time.
Richard Hendrickson


Re: PMcK&Y (was Fascinated by the Obscure)

Richard Hendrickson
 

On Feb 7, 2009, at 3:59 PM, Tim O'Connor wrote:
Rats! I guess I will have to reletter my Tichy box car. Were any
of the rebuilt cars (as represented by the Tichy model) relettered
and renumbered for P&LE? And if so, in what series?





Yes, I have photos and will send you a scan or two when I have time.

Richard Hendrickson


Re: "Fascinated by the obscure"

Schuyler Larrabee
 

-----Original Message-----

PMcKY 53144 mty HT
Hadn't the PMcKY been absorbed by P&LE more than ten years
earlier? But there are other examples of "P-Mickey" (as it's called)
cars keeping their old lettering for YEARS after it was officially
obsolete. That wasn't always true of absorbed railroads, of course.

Tony Thompson
Sorry to be acknowledging that time does continue past the end of this list's sunset, but there are,
today, a few cars still in Erie Lackawanna reporting marks, and thanks to crummy paint applied
directly over dirt, lettering too, a mere 33 years after the road was killed.

SGL


Re: "Fascinated by the obscure freight car distribution on smaller RRs"

Schuyler Larrabee
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Lucas
"Remember our continual discussion of freight car distribution, to be concluded sometime in the
future.....????"

"Concluded?" Oh, I doubt it. I seriously doubt it.

SGL


Re: "Fascinated by the obscure"

armprem
 

The Rutland stopped sending its hoppers to the mines in the mid thirties.At least one was wrecked on the CNW or IC.Armand Premo

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bruce Smith" <smithbf@auburn.edu>
To: <STMFC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 10:14 AM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: "Fascinated by the obscure"


On Sat, February 7, 2009 8:15 am, A. Premo wrote:
Well,maybe not so obscure,but seeing an IC stock car,a Southern and
CBQ
hopper in northern New England left me scratching my head .Armand Premo
Armand,

The hoppers are a puzzle someone else might address, but coming up with a
plausible story for the stock car is relatively easy. Clearly, it came
from the west, most likely the Chicago area. I don't know how much
finished beef ended up being shipped for slaughter to New England from
Chicago but that is definitely one possibility. Large amounts certainly
traveled as far as New York. This car would simply have been an available
empty at the point of loading. Headed in the "wrong direction" according
to car service rules, but hey, they needed an empty (and we all know by
now that car service rules were often ignored at the local level)!
Another option would be the transfer of breeding cattle (most likely
dairy) from a location on the IC to the location in New England. After
all, it is doubtful that the IC had an empty Rutland car on hand to load
<VBG>.


Regards
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL



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Re: PMcK&Y (was Fascinated by the Obscure)

Tim O'Connor
 

Rats! I guess I will have to reletter my Tichy box car. Were any
of the rebuilt cars (as represented by the Tichy model) relettered
and renumbered for P&LE? And if so, in what series?

Tim O'Connor

Just happen to have an April 1952 ORER laying here on the desk. P&LE still
lists 3270 cars with PMcKY reporting marks. Of the 1500 original 53000 -
54499 number series 1470 remain lettered for PMcKY. This is the largest group
of cars remaining in these reporting marks. The break down by car type is 1
XM 36' boxcar, 1496 HT hoppers, 184 HM hoppers, 1586 GB gons
Rich Orr


Re: "Fascinated by the obscure"

Bruce Smith
 

On Sat, February 7, 2009 3:09 pm, Mike Brock wrote:

That opens the door, BTW, for
various eastern RRs to have Big Boys or ATSF 2-10-4's in the
consist....among others. Incidentally, Pennsy worked the Challengers
headed to the Clinchfield so Pennsy modelers could have 6 really odd
ball locos.
And, of course, how could a Pennsy modeler pass on the ATSF 2-10-4's
working north of Columbus?
Mike,

Funny you should mention the ATSF 2-10-4s... Baldwin built 2-10-4s... in
fact, built in 1944. Unlike the challenges, as best I can tell they were
not "worked west", but rather traveled dead-in-tow. New locos shipped
from Baldwin were dropped at Columbia PA to have the bearings inspected by
a "Baldwin man". I have a stand-in (Botchman) that is on the bench
waiting for some added details, but really, I am waiting for those locos
to come out in nice plastic <G>. I'll gut the electronics, pull off the
main rods, crate them and some other parts to ride on the tender deck,
board up the windows and light and now I have an interesting operationally
significant addition.. and you know, it was pointed out to me that
Baldwin also shipped some SP ACs in the summer of 1944 too! I have two
VO1000s that will show up in that traffic as well, one NP and the other US
Army. These will likely show up once a year each, so say one new loco
load every 3-4 ops sessions.

Speaking of US ARMY, I'm still trying to justify the price, but DJH makes
a USA/TC S160 2-8-0 that could also show up as dead in tow (with adapter
cars for european couplers) or as a flat car load (especially if gauged
for Russia). If I don't put too many identifying marks on it, like
numbers, it can show up repeatedly within a limited number of ops sessions
as a different loco.

Oddball loads? Well... kinda like the gun barrels, digging shows that
they showed up somewhere on the average of once a week. Not so odd!

Regards
Bruce

Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL

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