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Helium Cars

Steve and Barb Hile
 

Back in June of 2007 there was a flurry of messages surrounding the possibility of a quality model of one or more phases of helium cars along with separate decals. Jay Miller did a terrific presentation on the industry at Naperville and the ATSF meet.

Since then, it has been quiet. Has anyone heard of any progress on this front?

Thanks in advance.

Steve Hile


Re: another film

Schuyler Larrabee
 

Thanks for the advisory.

SGL

-----Original Message-----
From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of Larry Castle
Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 11:13 AM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] Re: another film

Schuyler,

Save your time on Choo Choo. Released in 1932 it opens with a Santa
Fe steam engine pulling a passenger train to a stop but never finds
anything for this lists subject matter. While there are railroad
scenes they were somehow able to not film even a part of a Steam Era
Freight Car.

I look forward to watching Railroadn' when it arrives.

Larry Castle - Seattle

--- In STMFC@... <mailto:STMFC%40yahoogroups.com> , "Schuyler Larrabee"
<schuyler.larrabee@...> wrote:

Sure is, right there in black and white on the screen under series
details. That's what I get for
doing things late at night . . .

Thanks

SGL

Railroadin' is on disk one, I don't know what Choo Choo is but
just
ordered disks one and three from Netflix to find out.

Larry Castle - Seattle

--- In STMFC@... <mailto:STMFC%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:STMFC%
40yahoogroups.com> , "Schuyler Larrabee"
<schuyler.larrabee@> wrote:



Netflix has a "The Little Rascals, the complete series" eight
disk
set, which doesn't include this
title, but does include a title "Choo Choo" on the third disk.
Does anybody know if "Choo Choo" is
a retitling of "The Little Rascals in Railroadin' "?

SGL

A friend sent me a copy of The Little Rascals in Railroadin',
a
shrt circa 1930 with the kids
inadvertantly starting an
ATSF loco and their adventures. Plenty of steam, lots of
trackage, some freight. Worth a watch. -
Al Westerfield



Re: 70 ton Buckeye Barber Stabilized trucks

Richard Hendrickson
 

On Feb 11, 2009, at 4:59 PM, proto48er wrote:
I only have a poor photo of the model trucks on the RY Models website:

<http://www.richyodermodels.com/rym_trucks.htm>

(Scroll down to the seventh truck).

I am only interested in them if they were made before May of 1948, my
cutoff date. We have so few trucks in "O" scale that it is hard to let
any of them pass by - always discover too late that they would have
been useful!












Unfortunately, about all I can see on Rich's website is shiny
plastic. See if you can get a better image from him of these
trucks. Barber Stabilized trucks, both S-1 and S-2 types, were
developed in the 1930s and widely used during and after WW II, but
there were many variants and feel better about advising you to buy
some if I could get a good look at them.


Richard Hendrickson


Re: Milwaukee Road SS Door and 1/2 Auto Car - Decal Set?

Rob & Bev Manley
 

Jason,
I have one and I used a Westerfield set I bought at Desplaines Hobbies some 20 years ago. It may have been the USRA set. I used a copy of the Ambroid instruction sheet for placement and dimensional data.
I have also replaced the trucks with Accurail andrews and Intermountain wheelsets.

Rob Manley

----- Original Message -----
From: parkcitybranch
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 10:10 PM
Subject: [STMFC] Milwaukee Road SS Door and 1/2 Auto Car - Decal Set?


I am thinking about getting the Milwaukee Road SS with wooden door and
one half door automobile car imported by Oriental Limited. Does
anyone know of a decal set for this car in HO scale? Thanks.

Jason Sanford


Re: Need info about several tank cars, circa 1955-1956

Allen Rueter
 

Rob,
There must be a typo or something on the SP&S car number, all there tank cars were in the 38000 range

My guess is the initials are wrong.
--
Allen Rueter
StLouis MO




________________________________
From: Rob Erickson <pattirobpatti@...>
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Sunday, February 8, 2009 7:59:26 PM
Subject: [STMFC] Need info about several tank cars, circa 1955-1956


Group, I have been trying to identify several tank cars included in
train consists that were once posted on the Toledo West website.
These cars were in trains that operated on the New York Central
between Elkhart, IN, and Toledo, OH, in 1955, 1956 and 1957:

DUPX 181
DUPX 271
DUPX 4056

ETCX 239 Tennessee Eastman Co.

GRYX 411 John H. Grace Co.
GRYX 602

ILX 846 Inland Molasses

KTX 8705 Keith Tank Line

SCCX 428 Shell
SCCX 1210

SP&S 98

WRNX 1070 Warren Petroleum

Any information about these cars (such as type, capacity, builder,
possible models in HO) would be appreciated.

Thanks, Rob Erickson


Re: 70 ton Buckeye Barber Stabilized trucks

proto48er
 

Richard -

I only have a poor photo of the model trucks on the RY Models website:

<http://www.richyodermodels.com/rym_trucks.htm>

(Scroll down to the seventh truck).

I am only interested in them if they were made before May of 1948, my
cutoff date. We have so few trucks in "O" scale that it is hard to let
any of them pass by - always discover too late that they would have
been useful!

Rich has imported some N&W triple hoppers that are likely candidates
for these trucks. They were out of my time period.

In "O" scale, us old timers have developed a syndrome of purchasing
anything remotely correct for our purposes, then selling it later if it
turns out to be anachronistic. "When imported stuff comes in, you
gotta buy it when it is available, cause you will never see it again."
Ebay has helped some of us kick this habit, but not me!! Yet!!

Thanks!

A.T. Kott

--- In STMFC@..., Richard Hendrickson <rhendrickson@...>
wrote:
There were several different versions of Barber Stabilized trucks,
and
Buckeye probably made all of them under license, so without seeing
the trucks it's impossible to say.

Richard Hendrickson


Re: 70 ton Buckeye Barber Stabilized trucks

Richard Hendrickson
 

On Feb 11, 2009, at 2:18 PM, proto48er wrote:
What date were these trucks first introduced, and what freight cars
were they under at that time? (I suspect they were under some N&W
cars). An importer has them available in "O" scale.





Thee were several different versions of Barber Stabilized trucks, and
Buckeye probably made all of them under license, so without seeing
the trucks it's impossible to say.

Richard Hendrickson


Drilling underframes

Charles Hladik
 

List,
How does one drill the center sill and crossmembers on steam era freight
cars, particularlly the resin kits?
I've been building these for some years and have yet to find a really
good (easy?) method. I have not found a really small 90 degree drill. I'm sure
there are others wondering the same thing but don't want to be considered
"speacial".
Thanks,
Chuck Hladik
Rutland Railroad
Virginia Division
**************Nothing says I love you like flowers! Find a florist near you
now. (http://yellowpages.aol.com/search?query=florist&ncid=emlcntusyelp00000001)


70 ton Buckeye Barber Stabilized trucks

proto48er
 

Guys -

What date were these trucks first introduced, and what freight cars
were they under at that time? (I suspect they were under some N&W
cars). An importer has them available in "O" scale.

Thanks!

A.T. Kott


Black type 27 HO tank cars

Andy Carlson
 

Hi folks,
I have some RTR Intermountain Tank Cars which were special purchased. They include Frontenac, Southern Pacific, & Pan Am oils. These assembled 10K gallon cars would be great candidates for sanding the reporting marks off and redecaling for a quick weathered lease fleet. These cars cost $28.95 at the retail level, I am offering them at $18.00 each, plus shipping. I also have some Shell Chemical 8 K gallon cars, which are partial aluminum colored. I can be contacted at <midcentury@...> off-list (please). I now accept PayPal and can send PayPal invoices .
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA


Re: Red Caboose Automobile cars

al_brown03
 

Ted Culotta makes doors and decals for the AF-3.

Al Brown, Melbourne, Fla.


--- In STMFC@..., Richard Hendrickson <rhendrickson@...>
wrote:

On Feb 11, 2009, at 11:03 AM, A. Premo wrote:

What are the prototypes for the Red Caboose 40 ' Auto Box cars?



Armand, I did an article on these cars in the Jan. 1998 Railmodel
Journal. Most 40' double door cars were 10'4" to 10'6" high with 5-
5
ends, and thus can't be modeled with the RC kits. However, I
found
two exceptions, SAL class AF-3 nos. 22300-22449 with round-
cornered
ends and Soo Line 75800-75998 with square-cornered ends.

Richard Hendrickson





Re: Red Caboose Automobile cars

Richard Hendrickson
 

On Feb 11, 2009, at 11:03 AM, A. Premo wrote:

What are the prototypes for the Red Caboose 40 ' Auto Box cars?



Armand, I did an article on these cars in the Jan. 1998 Railmodel
Journal. Most 40' double door cars were 10'4" to 10'6" high with 5-5
ends, and thus can't be modeled with the RC kits. However, I found
two exceptions, SAL class AF-3 nos. 22300-22449 with round-cornered
ends and Soo Line 75800-75998 with square-cornered ends.

Richard Hendrickson


Red Caboose Automobile cars

armprem
 

What are the prototypes for the Red Caboose 40 ' Auto Box cars?Armand Premo


Re: another film

Larry Castle <sp1930s@...>
 

Schuyler,

Save your time on Choo Choo. Released in 1932 it opens with a Santa
Fe steam engine pulling a passenger train to a stop but never finds
anything for this lists subject matter. While there are railroad
scenes they were somehow able to not film even a part of a Steam Era
Freight Car.

I look forward to watching Railroadn' when it arrives.

Larry Castle - Seattle

--- In STMFC@..., "Schuyler Larrabee"
<schuyler.larrabee@...> wrote:

Sure is, right there in black and white on the screen under series
details. That's what I get for
doing things late at night . . .

Thanks

SGL

Railroadin' is on disk one, I don't know what Choo Choo is but
just
ordered disks one and three from Netflix to find out.

Larry Castle - Seattle

--- In STMFC@... <mailto:STMFC%
40yahoogroups.com> , "Schuyler Larrabee"
<schuyler.larrabee@> wrote:



Netflix has a "The Little Rascals, the complete series" eight
disk
set, which doesn't include this
title, but does include a title "Choo Choo" on the third disk.
Does anybody know if "Choo Choo" is
a retitling of "The Little Rascals in Railroadin' "?

SGL

A friend sent me a copy of The Little Rascals in Railroadin',
a
shrt circa 1930 with the kids
inadvertantly starting an
ATSF loco and their adventures. Plenty of steam, lots of
trackage, some freight. Worth a watch. -
Al Westerfield


Re: Toronto area Prototype Modellers' Meet

Stephan Parachuk <sparachuk@...>
 

Vince: We hardly qualify as a group so far! I assumed the organising of this event on Sunday night and so far it's been a busy few days but a website. Hmmm....
Stephan

----- Original Message -----
From: VINCE PUGLIESE
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 9:23 AM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Toronto area Prototype Modellers' Meet


Does the group have a website?

.vp

--- On Tue, 2/10/09, sparachuk <sparachuk@...> wrote:

> From: sparachuk <sparachuk@...>
> Subject: [STMFC] Toronto area Prototype Modellers' Meet
> To: STMFC@...
> Received: Tuesday, February 10, 2009, 10:35 PM
> Friends: We are happy to announce that the Prototype
> Modellers' Meet
> is going ahead as planned, March 14 at Humber College. If
> any of our
> American friends are going to be in the Toronto area please
> feel free
> to drop by. We will have some well known local modellers
> giving talks
> on various topics, lots of models to be seen and lots of
> pleasant
> conversation with like-minded model builders. There is a
> ten dollar
> admission fee.
>
> Alan Welch has done a great job presenting this meet for
> the last few
> years. Work pressures are too much for him to carry on but
> I think we
> owe him a big vote of thanks for the work he has done. We
> are going to
> try and live up to the standards that Alan and his
> predecessors have
> established and hopefully a good time will be had by all.
>
> For my own interest I'd appreciate you letting me know
> (sparachuk@...)if you're planning to attend or
> if you have any
> other questions or comments.
>
> Stephan Parachuk
> Toronto


Re: Toronto area Prototype Modellers' Meet

VINCE PUGLIESE
 

Does the group have a website?

.vp

--- On Tue, 2/10/09, sparachuk <sparachuk@...> wrote:

From: sparachuk <sparachuk@...>
Subject: [STMFC] Toronto area Prototype Modellers' Meet
To: STMFC@...
Received: Tuesday, February 10, 2009, 10:35 PM
Friends: We are happy to announce that the Prototype
Modellers' Meet
is going ahead as planned, March 14 at Humber College. If
any of our
American friends are going to be in the Toronto area please
feel free
to drop by. We will have some well known local modellers
giving talks
on various topics, lots of models to be seen and lots of
pleasant
conversation with like-minded model builders. There is a
ten dollar
admission fee.

Alan Welch has done a great job presenting this meet for
the last few
years. Work pressures are too much for him to carry on but
I think we
owe him a big vote of thanks for the work he has done. We
are going to
try and live up to the standards that Alan and his
predecessors have
established and hopefully a good time will be had by all.

For my own interest I'd appreciate you letting me know
(sparachuk@...)if you're planning to attend or
if you have any
other questions or comments.

Stephan Parachuk
Toronto


Re: IC 16704 SS boxcar

al_brown03
 

There are photos of IC 176379 and 176701 in Hendrickson, "Focus on
Freight Cars vol 1", pp 26-27, and one of IC 16466 in Kline and
Culotta, "The Postwar Freight Car Fleet", p 47. All three pictures
give good views of the trucks, which are "Bettendorfs". (My truck
spotting is still crude at best: I defer to others' knowledge here.)

Al Brown, Melbourne, Fla.


--- In STMFC@..., Jeffrey White <jrwhite@...> wrote:

Brian,
According to the 1968 Freight Car Diagram Book, 16000-16975 had
vertical
hand brakes applied in a 1945 repair program. The diagram for the
same
car series in the 1953 book doesn't have that note on it. It
doesn't
say what handbrake was applied in 1945.

All it says about trucks on the 1968 diagram is 40 ton (some cars
50
ton). The 1953 diagram just says Truck DWG. A5557.

Can't help you on the trust lettering.

Jeff White
Alma, IL

Brian J Carlson wrote:

I am working on a stand-in of these cars from the Accurail kit.
The
Accurail
kit is pretty good except the end should be 3/5 not 4/4 as in the
kit. The
original cars were in the 176000 series and renumbered in the
16000 series
after WW2. I don't have a lot of photos of these cars so one
detail I am
lacking is knowing whether any IC cars received powered
handbrakes
later in
life. Also, What trucks did the IC use on these cars? Finally,
did the
renumbered cars retain the trust lettering in the upper left into
the late
1950's? The 5th Ave Car shops kit I am using has a 1957 repack
date
and the
trust lettering. I was wondering if the trust lettering should be
painted
out by this time.Thanks.
Brian J Carlson P.E.
Cheektowaga NY


Re: IC 16704 SS boxcar

Jeffrey White
 

Brian,
According to the 1968 Freight Car Diagram Book, 16000-16975 had vertical hand brakes applied in a 1945 repair program. The diagram for the same car series in the 1953 book doesn't have that note on it. It doesn't say what handbrake was applied in 1945.

All it says about trucks on the 1968 diagram is 40 ton (some cars 50 ton). The 1953 diagram just says Truck DWG. A5557.

Can't help you on the trust lettering.

Jeff White
Alma, IL

Brian J Carlson wrote:


I am working on a stand-in of these cars from the Accurail kit. The Accurail
kit is pretty good except the end should be 3/5 not 4/4 as in the kit. The
original cars were in the 176000 series and renumbered in the 16000 series
after WW2. I don't have a lot of photos of these cars so one detail I am
lacking is knowing whether any IC cars received powered handbrakes later in
life. Also, What trucks did the IC use on these cars? Finally, did the
renumbered cars retain the trust lettering in the upper left into the late
1950's? The 5th Ave Car shops kit I am using has a 1957 repack date and the
trust lettering. I was wondering if the trust lettering should be painted
out by this time.Thanks.
Brian J Carlson P.E.
Cheektowaga NY


IC 16704 SS boxcar

Brian J Carlson <brian@...>
 

I am working on a stand-in of these cars from the Accurail kit. The Accurail
kit is pretty good except the end should be 3/5 not 4/4 as in the kit. The
original cars were in the 176000 series and renumbered in the 16000 series
after WW2. I don't have a lot of photos of these cars so one detail I am
lacking is knowing whether any IC cars received powered handbrakes later in
life. Also, What trucks did the IC use on these cars? Finally, did the
renumbered cars retain the trust lettering in the upper left into the late
1950's? The 5th Ave Car shops kit I am using has a 1957 repack date and the
trust lettering. I was wondering if the trust lettering should be painted
out by this time.Thanks.
Brian J Carlson P.E.
Cheektowaga NY


Re: Photos from the National Archives of Canada

r1ddell <jriddell@...>
 

--- In STMFC@..., "r1ddell" <jriddell@...> wrote:

The Merrilees Collection is only one of many collections in the NAC
with railroad content. There are others. There is a large collection
of railroad equipment drawings.

The NAC stores its sensitive material in a special building across the
river in Gatineau. This building has six different atmospheric storage
areas for storing and preserving sensitive material of different types.
For example, here NAC stores a large impressive collection of 8X10
glass plate negatives of railroad equipment.

Merrilees was a passionate collector of marine photos too - perhaps
even more than railroads.

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