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Re: Mold release...

prgm_mgr
 

Hi Jack
I use a fresh piece of evergreen styrene - what ever scrap I have on hand. I cast with alumilite. I can usually get 10 or more castings before it begins to stick and I turn it over or use another place. Be sure to let it cure a bit before trying to remove it from the styrene. If it's thin enough you can flex it to remove the part.

FYI clear plexiglass does not work - Sticks like crazy!
Mark


Wabash Boxcar in Atlanta, IL

railsnw1 <railsnw@...>
 

Nice display of a grain elevator and single sheathed Wabash boxcar.

http://rypn.sunserver.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=27262

Richard Wilkens


Re: Assistance Needed

Donald B. Valentine <riverman_vt@...>
 

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "A. Premo" <armprem@...> wrote:

I am currently in the process of attempting to build a Rock Island
double sheathed boxcar.The plans are silent as to the location of "Rock
Island".My question is,just where is it supposed to be located?Right or left
of the door.Admittedly,I am not too familiar with the Rock Island Line even
though "it's a mighty fine road.".Armand Premo

Armand,

The 1931 Carbuilders has photos of a Rock Island #142000 series
40 ft. boxcar, a #160000 series 40 ft. auto car and a #264000 series
50 ft. auto car. While all three of these are single sheathed they
are all lettered in the same way. Thus I wonder if the lettering arrangement might be the same foru your double sheathed car. On all three of these there is the usual white line surmountiong the "R.I."
and antoehr underneath the car number, all to the left of the door.
In each case the "Rock Island" is above these reporting marks. The
two auto cars each have the word "automoble" to the right of the
doors, while the right side is bare except for the dimensional data
on the plain #142000 series boxcar.

Perhaps this will be of some help, Don Valentine


"Pacific HO" mechanical reefer

Tim O'Connor
 

Just FYI, I was researching photos to try to pick out the
most appropriate paint scheme for my kitbash and I think I
have found the EXACT prototype for this model:

-- BREX series 120-149 built by FGE in 1953

The model also appears to exactly match FGEX 150, but I do
not have any roster information for the Fruit Growers car.

In addition, the Wright Trak model is a slightly different
car, which is good news if you like variety...

Tim O'Connor


Re: Move to Santa Fe country

brianehni <behni@...>
 

Amen to that; my move to Tennessee 20 years ago has not caused me to shift focus to the CSX, NS, or any of their predecessor lines. I remain focused on what I started with: the Rock Island, with subsidiary interest in other Texas lines.

Brian Ehni

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:


Santa what?? I'm racking my brain but I can't quite place that
name. Wasn't that some little, insignificant railroad out in the
desert wastelands somewhere? Run by some guy named Harvey?

Gene, stick with what you know! You can take yourself out of
the midwest but you may find it hard to take the midwest out
of your memories.

Tim O'Connor


At 4/1/2009 10:12 PM Wednesday, you wrote:
On Apr 1, 2009, at 12:47 PM, Gene Green wrote:
Sometime this year we will move to Belen, New Mexico which is
strictly Santa Fe country. Will I have to throw away all my M&StL
stuff and buy all Santa Fe equipment?
Yes, of course. But think of what you'll get as a trade-off. Since
Belen was the western end of the Pecos Division, you'll need both
2-10-4s and 4-8-4s of a size and elegance that the M&StL never
imagined, as well as (depending on the date you model) big brawny
3800 class 2-10-2s, freight FTs, and passenger F-3s in Warbonnet P/
L. You'll also need a bunch of map/slogan reefers and box cars and
some Caswell gondolas, all readily available in HO. You won't need
to model the Super Chief, El Cap, etc. but you will need the Grand
Canyon and the Scout, so lotsa heavyweight passenger equipment. If
that all seems like too much, you could model the El Paso district
from Belen south, with a lot of freight traffic but only one
passenger train each way (#13-14). And you can draw on the resources
of a large and very active historical society. Of course, you can
still keep some M&StL freight cars, as those traveled widely in
interchange. Welcome to big time class 1 railroading!

Richard Hendrickson


Re: Move to Santa Fe country

Tim O'Connor
 

Santa what?? I'm racking my brain but I can't quite place that
name. Wasn't that some little, insignificant railroad out in the
desert wastelands somewhere? Run by some guy named Harvey?

Gene, stick with what you know! You can take yourself out of
the midwest but you may find it hard to take the midwest out
of your memories.

Tim O'Connor

At 4/1/2009 10:12 PM Wednesday, you wrote:
On Apr 1, 2009, at 12:47 PM, Gene Green wrote:
Sometime this year we will move to Belen, New Mexico which is
strictly Santa Fe country. Will I have to throw away all my M&StL
stuff and buy all Santa Fe equipment?
Yes, of course. But think of what you'll get as a trade-off. Since
Belen was the western end of the Pecos Division, you'll need both
2-10-4s and 4-8-4s of a size and elegance that the M&StL never
imagined, as well as (depending on the date you model) big brawny
3800 class 2-10-2s, freight FTs, and passenger F-3s in Warbonnet P/
L. You'll also need a bunch of map/slogan reefers and box cars and
some Caswell gondolas, all readily available in HO. You won't need
to model the Super Chief, El Cap, etc. but you will need the Grand
Canyon and the Scout, so lotsa heavyweight passenger equipment. If
that all seems like too much, you could model the El Paso district
from Belen south, with a lot of freight traffic but only one
passenger train each way (#13-14). And you can draw on the resources
of a large and very active historical society. Of course, you can
still keep some M&StL freight cars, as those traveled widely in
interchange. Welcome to big time class 1 railroading!

Richard Hendrickson


Re: Move to Santa Fe country

Richard Hendrickson
 

On Apr 1, 2009, at 6:51 PM, Douglas Harding wrote:
NO, go and evangelize, show them the true way...



Evangelize for the M&StL? Don't we have enough weird cults already?

Richard Hendrickson


Re: Assistance Needed

sparachuk <sparachuk@...>
 

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "A. Premo" <armprem@...> wrote:

I am currently in the process of attempting to build a Rock Island
double sheathed boxcar.The plans are silent as to the location of "Rock
Island".My question is,just where is it supposed to be located?Right or left
of the door.Admittedly,I am not too familiar with the Rock Island Line even
though "it's a mighty fine road.".Armand Premo
Armand: A USRA DS box?
http://railroad.union.rpi.edu/displayimage.php?i=19987#

http://railroad.union.rpi.edu/displayimage.php?i=20105#

Hope this helps.
Stephan Parachuk
Toronto


Re: Assistance Needed

jerryglow2
 

Armand: it will depend somewhat on era. Westerfield's site shows a USRA DS car in early style (mechanical data) lettering. I'm not sure if his decal set would show variations but would probably cover them.

Jerry Glow

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "A. Premo" <armprem@...> wrote:

I am currently in the process of attempting to build a Rock Island
double sheathed boxcar.The plans are silent as to the location of "Rock
Island".My question is,just where is it supposed to be located?Right or left
of the door.Admittedly,I am not too familiar with the Rock Island Line even
though "it's a mighty fine road.".Armand Premo


Assistance Needed

armprem
 

I am currently in the process of attempting to build a Rock Island double sheathed boxcar.The plans are silent as to the location of "Rock Island".My question is,just where is it supposed to be located?Right or left of the door.Admittedly,I am not too familiar with the Rock Island Line even though "it's a mighty fine road.".Armand Premo


Re: Move to Santa Fe country

Tom Madden <tgmadden@...>
 

Gene Green:

Sometime this year we will move to Belen, New Mexico which is
strictly Santa Fe country. Will I have to throw away all my M&StL
stuff and buy all Santa Fe equipment?
No, just leave your M&StL models out on the patio this summer, turning them occasionally. After about a week, they'll be nicely bleached and sandblasted, all ready for new orange or mineral red paint jobs.

Be sure to check out Bosque del Apache wildlife refuge to your south during the Spring or Fall migrations - spectacular!

Tom Madden


Re: Move to Santa Fe country

tyesac@...
 

There was also doodlebug service between Albuquerque and Belen.??Train 13/14 exchanged a baggage/RPO combine with?E/W mainline trains before it continued on to Denver.? In the mid '50's & 60's this would be a short streamlined?train pulled by E8m's.?

Depending upon the era modeled, large parts of the?right of way changed little over many of the decades that interest most modelers.??(excluding the recent double tracking project in the canyon)? Except for the line west of Dalies, there's considerable amounts of single track?mainline railroading, but with a traffic density that?probably kept dispatchers highly cafinated.???

Belen also dispatched the "hog special"? stock train to LA, so, there's a need for long strings of stock cars.?? Post '59, you can?also run?"desert dwelling alligators".? One thing you won't need to model much of for this area; TREES!

Tom Casey?



Yes, of course. But think of what you'll get as a trade-off. Since
Belen was the western end of the Pecos Division, you'll need both
2-10-4s and 4-8-4s of a size and elegance that the M&StL never
imagined, as well as (depending on the date you model) big brawny
3800 class 2-10-2s, freight FTs, and passenger F-3s in Warbonnet P/
L. You'll also need a bunch of map/slogan reefers and box cars and
some Caswell gondolas, all readily available in HO. You won't need
to model the Super Chief, El Cap, etc. but you will need the Grand
Canyon and the Scout, so lotsa heavyweight passenger equipment. If
that all seems like too much, you could model the El Paso district
from Belen south, with a lot of freight traffic but only one
passenger train each way (#13-14). And you can draw on the resources
of a large and very active historical society. Of course, you can
still keep some M&StL freight cars, as those traveled widely in
interchange. Welcome to big time class 1 railroading!

Richard Hendrickson

Well, I already have the Walthers Santa Fe Super Chief and a couple of Santa Fe 4-8-4s. Those Intermountain reefers are mighty tempting. And I just joined the Santa Fe Railway Historical & Modeling Society. Maybe I could model Nemo, Illinois where the ATSF and M&StL had their only interchange. But Abo Canyon beckons.

Gene Green


Re: Silver Streak tank cars

Gene Green <bierglaeser@...>
 

Thanks to both Richard and Steve. I guess I'll let the Silver Streak tank cars go to someone else.

What the modeling world needs is a good GATX tank car or two but not resin. A klutz like me has such a difficult time with those.

BTW, I can supply drawings of a GATX tank car if there is a manufacturer who thinks it might do well in styrene.

Gene Green


Re: Move to Santa Fe country

Gene Green <bierglaeser@...>
 

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Richard Hendrickson <rhendrickson@...> wrote:

Yes, of course. But think of what you'll get as a trade-off. Since
Belen was the western end of the Pecos Division, you'll need both
2-10-4s and 4-8-4s of a size and elegance that the M&StL never
imagined, as well as (depending on the date you model) big brawny
3800 class 2-10-2s, freight FTs, and passenger F-3s in Warbonnet P/
L. You'll also need a bunch of map/slogan reefers and box cars and
some Caswell gondolas, all readily available in HO. You won't need
to model the Super Chief, El Cap, etc. but you will need the Grand
Canyon and the Scout, so lotsa heavyweight passenger equipment. If
that all seems like too much, you could model the El Paso district
from Belen south, with a lot of freight traffic but only one
passenger train each way (#13-14). And you can draw on the resources
of a large and very active historical society. Of course, you can
still keep some M&StL freight cars, as those traveled widely in
interchange. Welcome to big time class 1 railroading!

Richard Hendrickson




Well, I already have the Walthers Santa Fe Super Chief and a couple of Santa Fe 4-8-4s. Those Intermountain reefers are mighty tempting. And I just joined the Santa Fe Railway Historical & Modeling Society. Maybe I could model Nemo, Illinois where the ATSF and M&StL had their only interchange. But Abo Canyon beckons.

Gene Green


Re: Move to Santa Fe country

Richard Hendrickson
 

On Apr 1, 2009, at 12:47 PM, Gene Green wrote:
Sometime this year we will move to Belen, New Mexico which is
strictly Santa Fe country. Will I have to throw away all my M&StL
stuff and buy all Santa Fe equipment?





Yes, of course. But think of what you'll get as a trade-off. Since
Belen was the western end of the Pecos Division, you'll need both
2-10-4s and 4-8-4s of a size and elegance that the M&StL never
imagined, as well as (depending on the date you model) big brawny
3800 class 2-10-2s, freight FTs, and passenger F-3s in Warbonnet P/
L. You'll also need a bunch of map/slogan reefers and box cars and
some Caswell gondolas, all readily available in HO. You won't need
to model the Super Chief, El Cap, etc. but you will need the Grand
Canyon and the Scout, so lotsa heavyweight passenger equipment. If
that all seems like too much, you could model the El Paso district
from Belen south, with a lot of freight traffic but only one
passenger train each way (#13-14). And you can draw on the resources
of a large and very active historical society. Of course, you can
still keep some M&StL freight cars, as those traveled widely in
interchange. Welcome to big time class 1 railroading!

Richard Hendrickson


Re: Enterprise hopper door hardware

Jon Miller <atsf@...>
 

Try the "What's New" page ;^)<
Well I did say I didn't look very hard <G>! It is a nice tank. I have a Tichy ATSF water tank (close enough) and it's an outstanding model. Steam era freight cars were know to pass these items frequently.

Jon Miller
AT&SF
For me time has stopped in 1941
Digitrax, Chief/Zephyr systems, JMRI user
NMRA Life member #2623
Member SFRH&MS


Re: Move to Santa Fe country

Douglas Harding <dharding@...>
 

NO, go and evangelize, show them the true way...

Doug Harding
www.iowacentralrr.org


Re: Enterprise hopper door hardware

Bruce Smith
 

On Wed, April 1, 2009 4:33 pm, Jon Miller wrote:
About Don not making any new kits. A week or so ago I received a
postcard about a new kit. It's a steel water tank, small such as used in
a
small town, etc. I don't see it on his site but I didn't look that hard.

Jon Miller
Jon, Folks,

Try the "What's New" page ;^)
http://www.tichytraingroup.com/index.php?page=whats_new.php

Looks pretty nice to me!
Regards
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL


Re: Howard Ameling photos

Larry Kline
 

Many of the Ameling collection photos are available on line to NKP Historical and Technical Society members.

Larry Kline
Pittsburgh, PA

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "lnbill" <bwelch@...> wrote:

I have been in contact with Mr. Ameling over the past few years and he was in the process of sending his negatives to the NKP Society Archives at Cleveland State University. I cannot say that I know where this process is in terms of how much has been moved there but do know that some has.

Bill Welch


Re: Move to Santa Fe country

George Simmons
 

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Gene Green" <bierglaeser@...> wrote:

Sometime this year we will move to Belen, New Mexico which is strictly Santa Fe country. Will I have to throw away all my M&StL stuff and buy all Santa Fe equipment?
IF that were true then the would be no SPF's outside of an area basically between New York, Washington and Chicago, St Louis.

George Simmons
Dry Prong, LA

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