Re: Sergent Engineering couplers (was Kadee 158s)
Jared Harper <harper-brown@...>
--- In STMFC@..., "Mike Brock" <brockm@...> wrote:
We do? Jared Harper Athens, GA
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Re: Sergent Engineering couplers (was Kadee 158s)
Jared Harper <harper-brown@...>
--- In STMFC@..., "Jon Miller" <atsf@...> wrote:
Jon, On my Santa Fe Alma branch layout I will only have one passenger car so I don't care. If you use Sergents on passenger cars you will just need to experiment with uncoupling from a different angle. Jared Harper Athens, GA
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Re: Sergent Engineering couplers (was Kadee 158s)
Jared Harper <harper-brown@...>
--- In STMFC@..., William Keene <wakeene@...> wrote:
I am modeling a one train a day Santa Fe branchline on a shelf. I will be using Sergents. My operations will be the same as Bill's. Jared Harper Athens, GA
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Re: UP 40' auto box
sparachuk <sparachuk@...>
--- In STMFC@..., Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:
Tim: In the very unlikely event that Richard doesn't have a photo, try this link. http://railroad.union.rpi.edu/displayimage.php?i=32813# Stephan Parachuk Toronto
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Re: Sergent Engineering couplers (was Kadee 158s)
Dennis Storzek <destorzek@...>
--- In STMFC@..., octoraro1@... wrote:
Sergent used to sell "remote uncoupler", it was a U shaped casting that held a little rare earth magnet. This was to be placed on top of the coupler while the cars were still in reach, and kept the locking ball raised. The car to be spotted was then pushed to where it needed to go, and the uncoupler came back with the car doing the pushing, where it was retrieved and went back in the switchman's pocket. For some reason I don't see it on the Sergent web site anymore. Dennis
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Re: UP 40' auto box
Richard Hendrickson
On Jun 20, 2009, at 2:38 PM, Tim O'Connor wrote:
Richard, do you have or do you know of any photos of these cars? Yes, I have all the materials for Terry's second book, which include a number of photos of the A-50-7 class after rebuilding. As soon as I recover from the Santa Fe Ft-/Ga- class book, which is supposed to be out next month, I intend to begin working on the second UP book. Richard Hendrickson
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Re: UP 40' auto box
mcindoefalls
--- In STMFC@..., Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:
The photo I've seen is by Dwight Smith. It appears on page 112 of "New England Diesels" by Dave Albert and George Melvin, and on page 63 of Volume VI of Nimke's Connecticut River Railroads series. The image is larger and clearer in New England Diesels. Walt Lankenau
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Re: UP 40' auto box
mcindoefalls
--- In STMFC@..., Richard Hendrickson <rhendrickson@...> wrote:
UP 471441 was an A-50-7 class car, originally wood sheathed butThank you, Richard. Of course, I'd haved to choose something exotic. In the photo I've seen, it's coupled to a welded SAL B-10 box which is taller than the UP car, so I'd guess the IH to be a bit less than 10'-6". Sounds like an interesting kitbash. But for now, I'll use the Trix car as a stand-in. Walt Lankenau
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Re: Sergent couplers
pierreoliver2003 <pierre.oliver@...>
Bob,
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A friend of mine who uses the Sergent couplers for his HO models(Trevor Marshall) and also reviewed the product for RMC, strongly urges one to buy the couplers assembled. I think the quote was, "Life's to short". Pierre Oliver
--- In STMFC@..., "gn3397" <heninger@...> wrote:
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Re: Sergent Engineering couplers
Louis
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Since the magnet must be above the coupler, you'd have to get pretty clever to implement a remote uncoupler. Delayed uncoupling might be a more useful technique. Tim O'Connor
The question is whether there is remote uncoupling possibility
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Re: Sergent Engineering couplers (was Kadee 158s)
octoraro1@...
The question is whether there is remote uncoupling possibility with the Sergent couplers. I can't imagine how. As I understand the principle, a tiny metal ball keeps the knuckle closed. The magnet held above the coupler raises the ball out of its seat so the knuckle will open.
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--- On Sat, 6/20/09, Gene Green <bierglaeser@...> wrote:
From: Gene Green <bierglaeser@...> Subject: [STMFC] Re: Sergent Engineering couplers (was Kadee 158s) To: STMFC@... Date: Saturday, June 20, 2009, 9:55 AM Comments, please. There are, apparently, at least two who have converted to Sergent Engineering couplers. Clearly the Sergent couplers are somewhat more expensive but appearance should be quite a bit better than even the so-called "scale" couplers from other manufacturers. Is scale appearance worth the extra cost or are there other benefits as well? From what has been said on this forum and the information on the Sergent Engineering web site (much improved since the last time I visited), it seems there would be an increase in the realism of the brakeman's duties on a model railroad. Since, on model railroads, the local takes far too long to make its run when compared to the time it takes the "hot shot" to get from one end of the layout to the other, would the Sergent couplers speed up or slow down the local's progress? With Sergent couplers all uncoupling and most coupling would have to take place within fairly easy reach from the aisle. Is there a remote uncoupling possibility with Sergents? Gene Green
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Re: UP 40' auto box
Richard, do you have or do you know of any photos of these cars?
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I have never seen one. Terry's book does not include them since they were originally built long before 1936. Tim O'Connor P.S. I would love to have a book dedicated to rebuilt box cars. It's a very interesting subject!
UP 471441 was an A-50-7 class car, originally wood sheathed but
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Re: UP 40' auto box
Richard Hendrickson
On Jun 20, 2009, at 1:02 PM, mcindoefalls wrote:
I'm interested in modeling UP 471441, a 40' double door boxcar, UP 471441 was an A-50-7 class car, originally wood sheathed but rebuilt ca. 1940 into a steel sheathed car. The steel rebuilds kept the original Bettendorf underframes and 5-5-5 corrugated ends with two additional corrugations at the top. Roofs were panel steel, doors were 12' double corrugated, trucks were AAR with spring planks, running boards were wood, hand brakes were Ajax or Universal, and couplers were bottom-operated Type E. A kitbash is possible based on a model of a 10'6" IH AAR standard box car (e.g., Intermountain), but double doors would have to added and the underframe replaced. Richard Hendrickson
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Sergent couplers
gn3397 <heninger@...>
Hello all,
I am considering using the Sergent couplers and have a question. In Tim Warris' video and post, he states that he occasionally has trouble coupling the cars, sometimes having to use quite a bit of force to couple cars. However, he also states that he purchased the assembled couplers. For those of you who use these couplers, have you noticed the same problems? Do you use the assembled couplers, or do you assemble them yourself? If so, what assembly "tweaks" would you recommend to improve the operation of these couplers? Thanks for your time. Sincerely, Bob Heninger Iowa City, IA
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Re: UP 40' auto box
mcindoefalls
--- In STMFC@..., Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:
Thanks for the information, Tim. Guess I did mean Red Caboose, rather than IM. Walt Lankenau
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Re: UP 40' auto box
The Trix car is an A-50-16, UP 474000-474499 until 1955, when
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they were renumbered as 175000-175499. Intermountain? Intermountain doesn't make a 40ft double door. If you mean Red Caboose, those are prewar cars, SOO and SAL. Tim O
I'm interested in modeling UP 471441, a 40' double door boxcar, since it's been documented as operating on the route I want to model. Is this the same class as the Trix double-door model, or the Intermountain? If not, are photos, plans, or diagrams out there, somewhere, of cars in the same class?
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UP 40' auto box
mcindoefalls
I'm interested in modeling UP 471441, a 40' double door boxcar, since it's been documented as operating on the route I want to model. Is this the same class as the Trix double-door model, or the Intermountain? If not, are photos, plans, or diagrams out there, somewhere, of cars in the same class?
Walt Lankenau
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Re: Kadee 158s
Schuyler Larrabee
I shall compare and report, Sir Denny.
SGL The Hon. Schuyler Larrabee says-I had not noticed the 153s which I agree will be more appropriate inBut, my learned friend, the Kadee 78's have neither a scale draft gear/ E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (6.0.1.441) Database version: 6.12650 http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/
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Re: Kadee 158s
Denny Anspach <danspach@...>
The Hon. Schuyler Larabee says-
I had not noticed the 153s which I agree will be more appropriate inBut, my learned friend, the Kadee 78's have neither a scale draft gear/ coupler box, nor a scale length coupler shank (it is far too long)....i.e., it is neither fish nor fowl. Even Kadee will admit that the #78 was an expedient designed originally for their proprietary car offerings, not aspiring for scale independent aftermarket use. IMHO, the #153s in an overscale standard-sized "Athearn" box are superior in overall appearance and effect than the #78s. Denny Denny S. Anspach MD Sacramento
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Re: Sergent Engineering couplers (was Kadee 158s)
Jerry <jrs060@...>
Gene, I think you, and the group, might enjoy watching some videos done
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by Tim Warris of Bronx Terminal fame that should give you a little better understanding on the Sargents and how they work. Have a look! http://www.bronx-terminal.com/?cat=43 And yes, someone has come up with a magnet blade that will uncouple a Sargent under a passenger or express car diaphragm or buffer! And everyone should know, you can't do that with a skewer stick. Happiness, Jerry Stewart Woodstock, Ill.
--- In STMFC@..., "Gene Green" <bierglaeser@...> wrote:
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