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Re: Prototype for new resin kits

asychis@...
 

"but Colorado shipped molybdenum from Climax via the DRGW, or so I have
been told."

Possibly the Climax mine at Leadville?

Jerry Michels

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Re: Why so little discussion on coal car models?

SUVCWORR@...
 

Another purveyor of activated carbon for water filtration is/was Calgon.? From the late 50's until the 90's well past the time of this list, Calgon was the largest producer of activated carbon aka activated charcoal for this purpose.? Once covered hoppers became available, they shipped that way to packaging plants and to large water filtration facilities.

By it very nature -- absorbant of organic contaminants -- the finished product to be used in plants must be protected from exposure to potential contaminants.? If not the carbon will arrive useless.? So it is doubtful that the finished product would be shipped in open top hoppers.

Was there a processor on the west coast?? Calgon's largest facility for making activated carbon was on Neville Island, Pittsburgh.

Rich Orr

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Sent: Mon, Jul 6, 2009 1:22 am
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: Why so little discussion on coal car models?











Dave Evans writes:

< very big snip>

"A lot of anthracite was used for east coast heating, so I doubt small
mine operators would have been trying to sell a few loads of hard coal to
California water purification plants.

Pure speculation, but it could explain why no one has mentioned a southern
California photo of a LV or DL&W hopper.

Dave Evans"



I doubt that many Public Utilities bought lump anthracite coal for
purification from a mine that was not processed to the correct size, which is
to
say that all of the anthracite I have seen for this is refined very small
and in today's world is shipped bagged. Perhaps there were facilities that
could handle the task on the west coast but I would be surprised if that
were the case. What I know of the product is that about 70 tons will
"recharge" a facility large enough to facilitate the cities of Springfield and
Eugene, OR for about three years. The same is true for the city of Las Vegas,
NV. The folks that did lot of the anthracite processing for this type of
product we F. B. Leopold Co., Inc. at least that is the company I have had
dealings with. They have been at this a long time.

Interestingly I will be handing out small amounts of Anthracite to folks
attending our PNW Prototype Modelers meet Friday and Saturday August 21 and
22, 2009 as samples for HO and O Scale Hopper loadings in small "Zip-Lock"
plastic bags. I will let members of this list comment on the size, weight
and texture of this anthracite that was in fact used for the water
purification process. But trust me if you were simulate this size anthracite
even
in O Scale in a hopper it would be best simulated with glossy black DUST.

Oh, yes that is a shameless plug for our Prototype Modelers Meet "Rails by
the River" and the web address is: _http://railsbytheriver.com_
(http://railsbytheriver.com)

Ouch I did it again,,,

Greg Martin







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Re: Red Caboose redux

Neville Rossiter <rossiters@...>
 

I sent an email to Bill at Red Caboose about some parts missing in some O
Scale rolling stock items and he sent back a reply saying sorry for the
mistake and replacements are on their way, and that was only a week ago.
Neville in West Australia



Tim,

Not to be wise, but
To answer your questions, why don't you just call them. They really are
very open and agreeable at Intermountain.

Joe Lofland,
Altoona PA

On Sun, Jul 5, 2009 at 9:00 PM, Tom Madden <tgmadden@...>wrote:



The July RMC "Industry News" column mentions the Red Caboose -
InterMountain partnership discussed here recently: InterMountain will be
responsible for manufacturing and distributing Red Caboose products, and
will have access to RC's inventory. InterMountain's web site lists RC tank
cars and coil cars on their list of expected products. RC's web site
mentions that undec kits and miscellaneous parts will continue to be
available from RC.

However... on page 91 of the same RMC there's a notice that all of Red
Caboose's N, HO and O tooling is to be sold. Meanwhile, back on RC's web
site, the N, O and HO parts links on the "Parts" page return "no items in
our database" messages. Only the laser cut wood parts link shows anything.

Anyone know what's really going on with the future availability of RC
parts? And is this 'Partnership" (RC puts it in quotes on their web site)
similar to the one between the Titanic and the iceberg??

Tom Madden


Re: Steam Era Freight Cars Website

tmolsen@...
 

One big reason that Ted discontinued keeping the website up was that it was garnering a large amount of spam. With the other things that he was doing, it was not worth his time to continue adding to the site and weeding out the spam.

Regards,
Tom Olsen
7 Boundary Road, West Branch
Newark, Delaware, 19711-7479
(302) 738-4292
tmolsen@...


Re: Steam Era Freight Cars Website, was RE: Small tank cars

tmolsen@...
 

One big reason that Ted discontinued keeping the website up was that it was garnering a large amount of spam. With the other things that he was doing, it was not worth his time to continue adding to the site and weeding out the spam.

Regards,
Tom Olsen
7 Boundary Road, West Branch
Newark, Delaware, 19711-7479
(302) 738-4292
tmolsen@...


Re: Red Caboose redux

Joseph Lofland
 

Tim,

Not to be wise, but
To answer your questions, why don't you just call them. They really are
very open and agreeable at Intermountain.

Joe Lofland,
Altoona PA

On Sun, Jul 5, 2009 at 9:00 PM, Tom Madden <tgmadden@...>wrote:



The July RMC "Industry News" column mentions the Red Caboose -
InterMountain partnership discussed here recently: InterMountain will be
responsible for manufacturing and distributing Red Caboose products, and
will have access to RC's inventory. InterMountain's web site lists RC tank
cars and coil cars on their list of expected products. RC's web site
mentions that undec kits and miscellaneous parts will continue to be
available from RC.

However... on page 91 of the same RMC there's a notice that all of Red
Caboose's N, HO and O tooling is to be sold. Meanwhile, back on RC's web
site, the N, O and HO parts links on the "Parts" page return "no items in
our database" messages. Only the laser cut wood parts link shows anything.

Anyone know what's really going on with the future availability of RC
parts? And is this 'Partnership" (RC puts it in quotes on their web site)
similar to the one between the Titanic and the iceberg??

Tom Madden



REA cars

roblmclear <rob.mclear2@...>
 

Hello to all and sorry to interrupt,

I don't know if this is the right group to send this to or not but I am trying to find out which paint scheme on the Railway Express Agency reefers is appropriate for the 1947-1949 era. I have a decal sheet with a number of schemes and no instructions. I am particularly interested to find out when the red daimond took over from the scheme that looked like it only had all lettering.

Thanks
Rob McLear
Brisbane Australia.


E-mail address for contributions to Steam Freight Cars web site

Rob Adams
 

In case you missed it in my post related to the other thread, there is a new e-mail address to be used for contributions and correspondence related to <www.steamfreightcars.com>. Effective immediately, please direct mail to steamfreightcars@....

Thanks in advance, Rob Adams


Re: Steam Era Freight Cars Website, - New E-mail addy, updates, content and contributions

Rob Adams
 

Nothing like a holiday weekend to permit one catching up on e-mail... Wait, that's my name in that thread Uh-oh, looks like we have a hotbox smoldering over on the STMFC group. Where's the dope bucket when I need it?

With the minor clarification that I work in Cedar Rapids, IA (same river though), Gary has it pretty well nailed. He even left out some things. ;-) While I appreciate his stepping in for me, I'm not going to apologize or present excuses for the site languishing the past couple of years. Actually, things are happening behind the scenes, and I do have some new content and revisions to post. A new navigation menu and page templates are in the works, mostly to facilitate more rapid posting of content. I will let the group know as changes occur.

I'm encouraged and glad to hear that so many fellow modelers use and appreciate the Steam Freight Cars web site. That said, I'm going to push back and suggest that EACH of you who enjoys using the site also has an obligaton to contribute in whatever way you can. I've received almost no contributions of material during the past two years, whether small things like calendar events or visuals like model photos, reviews, ORER data, prototype features, list of historical society freight car references, etc. There has been lots happening in the modeling world, with many new freight car models on the market and surely some of you guys are researching and building them. Content is relatively fast and easy to put up when it doesn't have to be authored. Like the stuff on the web site? Want to see more? Then please, send me your tidbits, new product announcement, photos, articles, ORER pages, period freight car component advertising, etc. In other words, please help me out when able, as able. Enough said.

Toward that end... there is a new "OFFICIAL" e-mail address for correspondence related to the Steam Freight Cars site. - steamfreightcars@...

I activated the address well over a year ago, and look forward to having something in it besides SPAM.

Very few modelers have an adequate appreciation for the amount of time, effort and expense that Ted Culotta expended/incurred creating the Steam Freight Cars site. I would like to see the site continue and florish, but I'm not Ted, and won't try to be. While I am an active, enthusiastic steam-era prototype modeler, my areas of interest have limitations, and my knowledge of the freight car world is less comprehensive than Ted's. Therefore, I need your help, just as Ted did. Thanks in advance.

Respectfully, Rob Adams



gary roe wrote:



As life has a way of doing, Rob has been under a lot of "outside influence" which has been in competition for his free time for well over a year now. The company he works for is located in Cedar Falls, Iowa. It was caught up in last years flooding, just after he lost one of the key people in his department. Once things started to get "back to normal" from all that, they decided to build a new plant, out of floods harm; and he has yet to be able to replace that "missing person" due to the economy. Not long ago, he was working 12-14 hour days, just trying to keep his head above water......so to speak.

gary roe
quincy, illinois

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Re: Wine Car unloading point

Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
 

Neville Rossiter wrote:
I pictured some kind of bond store where the bulk wine would be unloaded as you said by hoses, transferred into the warehouse where a bottling plant would be set up.
So I'm thinking of a long warehouse type structure two stories high (I'm running out of brick sheets!) without a platform with facilities (hoses) to unload and maybe a roof over the track coming from the building to protect
the staff from the weather.
Sounds good. But don't omit some kind of loading door--that bottling plant has to receive new bottles and cartons also, at a minimum.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@...
Publishers of books on railroad history


Re: Wine Car unloading point

Neville Rossiter <rossiters@...>
 

Fred.
Thanks for the reply.
I pictured some kind of bond store where the bulk wine would be unloaded as
you said by hoses, transferred into the warehouse where a bottling plant
would be set up.
So I'm thinking of a long warehouse type structure two stories high (I'm
running out of brick sheets!) without a platform with facilities (hoses) to
unload and maybe a roof over the track coming from the building to protect
the staff from the weather.
As its O scale the building will have to be scratch built, not a problem, as
long as I get it right the first time!
Take Care.
Neville.



Neville,

             Take a lok at the wine section in your favorie store and write
down the
bottlers location. Most sidings will have a fenced area where the cars are
unloaded and some what protected from theft. The ones I have seen used a
bottom unloading hose into the building. hope this helps.

Fred Freitas
whose idle youth was spent in railroad yards and sidings.


Re: Red Caboose redux

Richard Hendrickson
 

On Jul 5, 2009, at 7:35 PM, al_brown03 wrote:

Which manufacturer was it, that announced a War Emergency boxcar
last winter? I vaguely recall seeing a test shot at Cocoa Beach ...
has it been released?



That was Intermountain, and it hasn't been released yet.

Richard Hendrickson


Re: Red Caboose redux

al_brown03
 

Related question, maybe:

Which manufacturer was it, that announced a War Emergency boxcar last winter? I vaguely recall seeing a test shot at Cocoa Beach ... has it been released?

-- Al Brown, Melbourne, Fla.

--- In STMFC@..., Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:


Tom, I don't know about any of that, but Bill McClung did notify
us this week that the undecorated 57' PC&F refrigerator car kits
were ready to ship -- direct from RC.

Tim O'Connor



The July RMC "Industry News" column mentions the Red Caboose - InterMountain partnership discussed here recently: InterMountain will be responsible for manufacturing and distributing Red Caboose products, and will have access to RC's inventory. InterMountain's web site lists RC tank cars and coil cars on their list of expected products. RC's web site mentions that undec kits and miscellaneous parts will continue to be available from RC.

However... on page 91 of the same RMC there's a notice that all of Red Caboose's N, HO and O tooling is to be sold. Meanwhile, back on RC's web site, the N, O and HO parts links on the "Parts" page return "no items in our database" messages. Only the laser cut wood parts link shows anything.

Anyone know what's really going on with the future availability of RC parts? And is this 'Partnership" (RC puts it in quotes on their web site) similar to the one between the Titanic and the iceberg??

Tom Madden


Re: Why so little discussion on coal car models?

Greg Martin
 

Dave Evans writes:

< very big snip>

"A lot of anthracite was used for east coast heating, so I doubt small
mine operators would have been trying to sell a few loads of hard coal to
California water purification plants.

Pure speculation, but it could explain why no one has mentioned a southern
California photo of a LV or DL&W hopper.

Dave Evans"



I doubt that many Public Utilities bought lump anthracite coal for
purification from a mine that was not processed to the correct size, which is to
say that all of the anthracite I have seen for this is refined very small
and in today's world is shipped bagged. Perhaps there were facilities that
could handle the task on the west coast but I would be surprised if that
were the case. What I know of the product is that about 70 tons will
"recharge" a facility large enough to facilitate the cities of Springfield and
Eugene, OR for about three years. The same is true for the city of Las Vegas,
NV. The folks that did lot of the anthracite processing for this type of
product we F. B. Leopold Co., Inc. at least that is the company I have had
dealings with. They have been at this a long time.

Interestingly I will be handing out small amounts of Anthracite to folks
attending our PNW Prototype Modelers meet Friday and Saturday August 21 and
22, 2009 as samples for HO and O Scale Hopper loadings in small "Zip-Lock"
plastic bags. I will let members of this list comment on the size, weight
and texture of this anthracite that was in fact used for the water
purification process. But trust me if you were simulate this size anthracite even
in O Scale in a hopper it would be best simulated with glossy black DUST.

Oh, yes that is a shameless plug for our Prototype Modelers Meet "Rails by
the River" and the web address is: _http://railsbytheriver.com_
(http://railsbytheriver.com)

Ouch I did it again,,,

Greg Martin







**************Looking for love this summer? Find it now on AOL Personals.


Re: Red Caboose redux

Tim O'Connor
 

Tom, I don't know about any of that, but Bill McClung did notify
us this week that the undecorated 57' PC&F refrigerator car kits
were ready to ship -- direct from RC.

Tim O'Connor

The July RMC "Industry News" column mentions the Red Caboose - InterMountain partnership discussed here recently: InterMountain will be responsible for manufacturing and distributing Red Caboose products, and will have access to RC's inventory. InterMountain's web site lists RC tank cars and coil cars on their list of expected products. RC's web site mentions that undec kits and miscellaneous parts will continue to be available from RC.

However... on page 91 of the same RMC there's a notice that all of Red Caboose's N, HO and O tooling is to be sold. Meanwhile, back on RC's web site, the N, O and HO parts links on the "Parts" page return "no items in our database" messages. Only the laser cut wood parts link shows anything.

Anyone know what's really going on with the future availability of RC parts? And is this 'Partnership" (RC puts it in quotes on their web site) similar to the one between the Titanic and the iceberg??

Tom Madden


Red Caboose redux

Tom Madden <tgmadden@...>
 

The July RMC "Industry News" column mentions the Red Caboose - InterMountain partnership discussed here recently: InterMountain will be responsible for manufacturing and distributing Red Caboose products, and will have access to RC's inventory. InterMountain's web site lists RC tank cars and coil cars on their list of expected products. RC's web site mentions that undec kits and miscellaneous parts will continue to be available from RC.

However... on page 91 of the same RMC there's a notice that all of Red Caboose's N, HO and O tooling is to be sold. Meanwhile, back on RC's web site, the N, O and HO parts links on the "Parts" page return "no items in our database" messages. Only the laser cut wood parts link shows anything.

Anyone know what's really going on with the future availability of RC parts? And is this 'Partnership" (RC puts it in quotes on their web site) similar to the one between the Titanic and the iceberg??

Tom Madden


Re: SC&F Tank Car

Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
 

Steve Lucas wrote:
The C-D-S sets were very useful for most Canadian cars. But they often used generic fonts for the dimensional and weight data on CN cars. CPR used a proprietary font in the steam era known as the "Bury" font . . . CN used a number of fonts . . .
Steve, I don't know much about either of the Canadian roads' lettering. Were they really fonts, or is this a shorthand for railroad- designed lettering?

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@...
Publishers of books on railroad history


Re: Small tank cars

mike turner <yardcoolieyahoo@...>
 

Bobby Pitts has done a model of the bromine car. Seeing that tiny jewel
amongst his collection of rail whales is pretty amazing. Bobby's display
of tank cars is one of the highlights of Bob Harpe's Savannah RPM meet.

Mike Turner
Simpsonville, SC 29681

Richard Brennan wrote:

At 09:59 AM 7/4/2009, Jon Miller wrote:
consisted of 3,000 and 6,000 gal. ICC-105s assigned to tetraethyl
lead service.<

In one of the major mags there was an article on making these cars.
Don't remember much but will try the back issue search Kalmbach owns and
seems to have forgotten about.
from: http://index.mrmag.com/tm.exe?opt=S&cmdtext=scratchbuild+tankcar&MAG=MR

Build a bromine car
Model Railroader, February 2001 page 74
Scratchbuilding a rare and distinctive 0 scale tanker using styrene stock
( BROMINE, DRAWING, "SCOTT, DICK", SCRATCHBUILD, TANKCAR,
CONSTRUCTION, FREIGHTCAR, PROTOTYPE, MR )


--------------------
Richard Brennan - San Leandro CA
--------------------


Re: Who said anything about being home?

Frederick Freitas <prrinvt@...>
 

Hi Ben,

             If you need something while sitting in the sand pile, just post me a note
off group and i will try to get it for you.

Fred Freitas
prrinvt@...




________________________________
From: Benjamin Hom <b.hom@...>
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Sunday, July 5, 2009 9:48:11 AM
Subject: RE: [STMFC] Re: Who said anything about being home?





John Golden wrote:
"Are you doing any modeling over there?"

Nothing fancy - no resin kits and a few styrene model detailing projects.
Here's what I brought along:

Walthers/Train- Miniature X29 basic upgrades
Bowser H21A basic upgrades
Athearn Illinois Central prewar AAR boxcars
Athearn/Mantua flatcar upgrades
Walthers heavy-duty depressed center flat upgrades
Completed shake-the-box car refurbishment for further sale on eBay

Ben Hom




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Re: Steam Era Freight Cars Website, was RE: Small tank cars

Alan Palmer <rrgeekdev@...>
 

I know someone who just finished the Rutland Railroad Historical
Society's site. He's a web guy and might be interested in taking it on
if there was interest?

Alan


On Sun, Jul 5, 2009 at 12:04 PM, gary roe<wabashrr@...> wrote:
As life has a way of doing, Rob has been under a lot of "outside influence" which has been in competition for his free time for well over a year now.  The company he works for is located in Cedar Falls, Iowa.  It was caught up in last years flooding, just after he lost one of the key people in his department.  Once things started to get "back to normal" from all that, they decided to build a new plant, out of floods harm; and he has yet to be able to replace that "missing person" due to the economy.  Not long ago, he was working 12-14 hour days, just trying to keep his head above water......so to speak.

gary roe
quincy, illinois


 ----- Original Message -----
 From: Paul Krueger
 To: STMFC@...
 Sent: Sunday, 05 July, 2009 8:36 AM
 Subject: Re: Steam Era Freight Cars Website, was RE: [STMFC] Small tank cars





 Rob Adams took over the site. See message #72908.

 Paul
 Seattle, WA

 --- In STMFC@..., "James F. Brewer" <jfbrewer@...> wrote:
 >
 > Alan,
 >
 > I seem to recall that someone did take over the site; I can't recall who it was; Ted had indicated with his Speedwitch Media obligations, he really didn't have the time to maintain the site.
 >
 > Jim Brewer
 > Glenwood MD
 > ----- Original Message -----
 > From: Alan Palmer
 > To: STMFC@...
 > Sent: Sunday, July 05, 2009 8:41 AM
 > Subject: Re: Steam Era Freight Cars Website, was RE: [STMFC] Small tank cars
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
 > Would Ted Be willing to have someone take over the site?
 >
 > Alan
 >
 > On Sun, Jul 5, 2009 at 2:56 AM, <tmolsen@...> wrote:
 > > One big reason that Ted discontinued keeping the website up was that it was garnering a large amount of spam. With the other things that he was doing, it was not worth his time to continue adding to the site and weeding out the spam.
 > >
 > > Regards,
 > > Tom Olsen
 > > 7 Boundary Road, West Branch
 > > Newark, Delaware, 19711-7479
 > > (302) 738-4292
 > > tmolsen@...
 > >
 > >
 > > ------------------------------------
 > >
 > > Yahoo! Groups Links
 > >
 > >
 > >
 > >
 >
 > --
 > --
 > Alan Palmer
 > http://rrgeekdev.googlepages.com/home
 >
 >
 >
 >
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