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Re: Accucals

pennsylvania1954
 

Eventually, but they still have a lot of decals to sell first. They just aren't making any new ones.

Steve Hoxie
Pensacola FL



--- In STMFC@..., "Schuyler Larrabee" <schuyler.larrabee@...> wrote in part:


Hmmm. Champ ceasing business. Will Decal-Set be discontinued, becoming the Kodachrome of our
hobby?


SGL

Re: New Lackawanna box car models available

Tim O'Connor
 

Mike Del Vecchio wrote

I'm not aware of a decorated Phoebe boxcar before the ELHS offering
that's yet been done in the correct combination of lettering, artwork,
era and details.
Are there problems with Branchline kit #1912 (50ft car)?
And Red Caboose #8010 (1944 paint) and #8069 (1955 paint)?

Tim O'Connor

Re: Thermice

Tim O'Connor
 

CO2 can be recovered from combustion or chemical processes. It
has many uses. The model you mention belongs on the scrap heap! :-)
There are no HO scale models of CO2 tank cars (the kind with
cylindrical tanks). In the 1950's most CO2 was shipped in
solid form (dry ice) in heavily insulated reefers. There are
models for those.

Tim O'

At 8/12/2009 10:19 PM Wednesday, you wrote:
At the North Shore Model Railroad Club, we have a Thermice tank car, which, we think, carried carbon
dioxide. We'd like to make some realistic waybills for it.

One of the other guys has found a location of the company in Thorofare, NJ, near Paulsboro. That
looks like a dry ice plant, not a place that would originate CO2.

Can anyone provide information on where those cars might have carried CO2 from and to ?

SGL

Re: New Lackawanna box car models available

MDelvec952 <MDelvec952@...>
 

In a message dated 08/12/09 00:34:08 Eastern Daylight Time, schuyler.larrabee@... writes:
These are steam era freight cars, built in January and February 1950. The repack date is 8/55, but
that is easily weathered and replaced. The cars are assembled models.
-----------------------

Steam era, yes, on the N&W, NKP and UP during the harvests. Nice cars, yes.

Remember, though, that this initial offering is in a lettering scheme that began mid-1955. The offering coming in a couple of months will be in the 1942 Phoebe Snow billboard factory applied to a 1950-built car.

I'm not aware of a decorated Phoebe boxcar before the ELHS offering that's yet been done in the correct combination of lettering, artwork, era and details. Some have had modern typefaces, wrong number series for the door style, or a mixture of 1942 and 1955 elements on the same car, shop lettering on a factory painted car and vice-versa, wrong colors, and so on. And we won't get into the blue-box Athearn boxcar from many years ago.

The current ELHS offering represents a couple of rare cars of which photos exist, showing factory lettering on a repainted car, which is very interesting.

Full disclosure: I am an ELHS member and was part of the imagineering team. I have two of the current cars, but plan to load up the next version. And I hope ELHS will produce the more numerous 1937 car with the 4/5 dreadnaught end with the correct lettering and door styles.

Mike Del Vecchio

Re: Accucals

Schuyler Larrabee
 

Thanks to all who have advised me on this. It appears that I need to buy a bottle of Solvaset,
which I have only used a few times with a notable lack of success on other decals. I have used
Champ Decal-Set almost exclusively for years and find it does everything I need . . . except work
with Accucals. 8^/ I always use Accu-set on Accucals.


Hmmm. Champ ceasing business. Will Decal-Set be discontinued, becoming the Kodachrome of our
hobby?


SGL

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Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 10:59 AM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Accucals



--- In STMFC@... <mailto:STMFC%40yahoogroups.com> , "Schuyler Larrabee"
<schuyler.larrabee@...> wrote:

Thanks, Greg and John. But have you used Solvaset on Accucals?
Schuyler,

Before switching to Microsol and Microset some time ago I used Solvaset on Accucals quite
frequently. If memory
serves, toward the
end of that use I ran into a bottle that seemed stronger than those used previously and promptly
cut it. I have, however,
spoken with George Bishop in recent months and will try to raise the question
directly with him and advise further.

Best wishes, Don Valentine








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Re: Thermice

al_brown03
 

Dry ice is solid CO2.

To be continued, after I look up manufacturing methods ...

Al Brown, Melbourne, Fla.

--- In STMFC@..., "Schuyler Larrabee" <schuyler.larrabee@...> wrote:

At the North Shore Model Railroad Club, we have a Thermice tank car, which, we think, carried carbon
dioxide. We'd like to make some realistic waybills for it.

One of the other guys has found a location of the company in Thorofare, NJ, near Paulsboro. That
looks like a dry ice plant, not a place that would originate CO2.

Can anyone provide information on where those cars might have carried CO2 from and to ?

SGL
La vita e breve, mangiate prima il dolce!






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New WrightTRAK DT&I caboose

seaboard_1966
 

Guys, a short announcement here, if you will. WrightTRAK is pleased to announce the production of our newest caboose. This one is an International Car Company DT&I 100-117 series of cars. Please go to www.wrighttrak.com for more information on these and other WrightTRAK products.

Regards,

Denis Blake
Marketing Director
WrightTRAK Railroad Models, LLC

Re: New Lackawanna box car models available

Mike Brock <brockm@...>
 

Don Valentine writes:

As nice as it will be for many to have these cars available I suspect the 1950 built date will be a bit of a stretch for most of
us who are seriously "steam era". With the exception of the Central Vermont most of the larger steam power on other New England roads was gone by that point.
Well...not being that familiar with New England RR's I certainly won't argue against that. However. If the STMFC has done nothing more to expand the general information about frt cars...and, in this case...box cars...surely it has shown with no doubt at all that box cars traveled all around the US. Thus, we have films showing NYC and PA box cars on short lines in the Cascades, FEC box cars on Sherman Hill, ATSF box cars on Long Island...etc., etc., and wheel reports stating the same thing. So...why would 1950 be a stretch for a steam era RR? Certainly REAL HE RR's like UP, SP, ATSF, Pennsy, NP, GN, L&N, MP, C&O and N&W found steam powered locomotion to be quite acceptable in 1950.

Mike Brock

Re: quick service question

Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
 

Steve Lucas wrote:
Sort of both. Missiassauga is a conurbation comprised of Streetsville, Meadowvale, (both served by the CPR) and Port Credit/ Clarkson/Lakeview (served by CN) amlagamated in 1973.
Thanks, Steve.

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Thermice

Schuyler Larrabee
 

At the North Shore Model Railroad Club, we have a Thermice tank car, which, we think, carried carbon
dioxide. We'd like to make some realistic waybills for it.

One of the other guys has found a location of the company in Thorofare, NJ, near Paulsboro. That
looks like a dry ice plant, not a place that would originate CO2.

Can anyone provide information on where those cars might have carried CO2 from and to ?

SGL
La vita e breve, mangiate prima il dolce!






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Re: quick service question

Steve Lucas <stevelucas3@...>
 

Sort of both. Missiassauga is a conurbation comprised of Streetsville, Meadowvale, (both served by the CPR) and Port Credit/Clarkson/Lakeview (served by CN) amlagamated in 1973. --- In STMFC@..., Anthony Thompson <thompson@...> wrote:


In the steam era, was Mississauga, Ontario served by CN, CP or
both?

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quick service question

Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
 

In the steam era, was Mississauga, Ontario served by CN, CP or both?

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Re: Need GTW roster info

Dennis Storzek
 

Thanks Ed. I'll pass the info along, with credit. I never cease to be amazed (appalled, really) at how hard it is for railway museums to find this information that we take for granted.

By the way, the transfer caboose has recently been restored at the Hoosier Valley Railroad Museum, North Judson, Indiana.

Dennis

Re: Need GTW roster info

Ed Hawkins
 

On Aug 12, 2009, at 4:35 PM, Dennis Storzek wrote:

They found the number GTW 515165 on the frame, and would like builder
and built date info on the original car to complete their history.
Dennis,
GTW 515000-515499 were 40' all-steel riveted postwar AAR box cars with
7' door openings & Youngstown doors, 4/4 Improved Dreadnaught Ends, and
Murphy panel roofs. They were built by Pullman-Standard ca. 1-48 (lot
no. 5891). I'm aware of two in-service photos from the series. Richard
Burg has a good 3/4 photo of 515067 in original paint and Bob's Photo
has a side view of 515293 repainted 6-61 with a maple leaf emblem.
Regards,
Ed Hawkins

Need GTW roster info

Dennis Storzek
 

Any Grand Trunk Western experts here? There is a gentleman asking on the Railway Preservation News Interchange board for builder information on a boxcar that a transfer caboose in their collection was rebuilt from.

The car is presently GTW 75072, rebuilt at the Port Huron car shops in the early seventies.

They found the number GTW 515165 on the frame, and would like builder and built date info on the original car to complete their history.

Thanx,

Dennis

Re: Accucals

Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
 

Tim O'Connor wrote:
My own experience is that Champ and Solvaset are strong solutions -- I only use them after the decal is "set" in place. The Microsale solutions I use for initial softening, because they are weak and have a longer working time.
My experience exactly.

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FYI: Star Brand paint is not Accupaint

Tim O'Connor
 

Although P-B-L's Star Brand paint is very similar in most
respects, I've just discovered why it isn't the same -- I
have two bottles that I found turned into a thick gel! I had
never opened those two particular bottles. This is impossible
with Accupaint. If you leave an AP bottle open to the air it
will dry up, leaving only the pigment -- adding back thinner
and a couple drops of retarder will bring it back like new.
The Star gel is hopelessly gooey -- like what can happen with
Scalecoat.

We all know Star Brand needs to be thinned 50% before using
(and says so in the instructions) but there must be something
else in it that makes it different than AP.

Tim O'Connor

Bill Welch contact me

Mike Brock <brockm@...>
 

Bill,
Please contact me offline.

Mike Brock

Re: New Lackawanna box car models available

Donald B. Valentine
 

--- In STMFC@..., "Schuyler Larrabee" <schuyler.larrabee@...> wrote: in part:

The Erie Lackawanna Historical Society has worked closely with Intermountain to produce a unique
model, exclusive with the ELHS. It is a combination of sides, ends and roof which has not been
previously produced, and exactly matches the prototype.

These are steam era freight cars, built in January and February 1950.
As nice as it will be for many to have these cars available I suspect the 1950 built date will be a bit of a stretch for most of
us who are seriously "steam era". With the exception of the Central Vermont most of the larger steam power on other New England roads was gone by that point. While the effort is commended I hope earlier prototypes will be forthcoming too.

Don Valentine

Re: Accucals

Donald B. Valentine
 

--- In STMFC@..., "Schuyler Larrabee" <schuyler.larrabee@...> wrote:

Thanks, Greg and John. But have you used Solvaset on Accucals?

Schuyler,

Before switching to Microsol and Microset some time ago I used Solvaset on Accucals quite frequently. If memory serves, toward the
end of that use I ran into a bottle that seemed stronger than those used previously and promptly cut it. I have, however, spoken with George Bishop in recent months and will try to raise the question
directly with him and advise further.

Best wishes, Don Valentine