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Re: quick service question

Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
 

Steve Lucas wrote:
Sort of both. Missiassauga is a conurbation comprised of Streetsville, Meadowvale, (both served by the CPR) and Port Credit/ Clarkson/Lakeview (served by CN) amlagamated in 1973.
Thanks, Steve.

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Thermice

Schuyler Larrabee
 

At the North Shore Model Railroad Club, we have a Thermice tank car, which, we think, carried carbon
dioxide. We'd like to make some realistic waybills for it.

One of the other guys has found a location of the company in Thorofare, NJ, near Paulsboro. That
looks like a dry ice plant, not a place that would originate CO2.

Can anyone provide information on where those cars might have carried CO2 from and to ?

SGL
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Re: quick service question

Steve Lucas <stevelucas3@...>
 

Sort of both. Missiassauga is a conurbation comprised of Streetsville, Meadowvale, (both served by the CPR) and Port Credit/Clarkson/Lakeview (served by CN) amlagamated in 1973. --- In STMFC@..., Anthony Thompson <thompson@...> wrote:


In the steam era, was Mississauga, Ontario served by CN, CP or
both?

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quick service question

Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
 

In the steam era, was Mississauga, Ontario served by CN, CP or both?

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
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Re: Need GTW roster info

Dennis Storzek
 

Thanks Ed. I'll pass the info along, with credit. I never cease to be amazed (appalled, really) at how hard it is for railway museums to find this information that we take for granted.

By the way, the transfer caboose has recently been restored at the Hoosier Valley Railroad Museum, North Judson, Indiana.

Dennis

Re: Need GTW roster info

Ed Hawkins
 

On Aug 12, 2009, at 4:35 PM, Dennis Storzek wrote:

They found the number GTW 515165 on the frame, and would like builder
and built date info on the original car to complete their history.
Dennis,
GTW 515000-515499 were 40' all-steel riveted postwar AAR box cars with
7' door openings & Youngstown doors, 4/4 Improved Dreadnaught Ends, and
Murphy panel roofs. They were built by Pullman-Standard ca. 1-48 (lot
no. 5891). I'm aware of two in-service photos from the series. Richard
Burg has a good 3/4 photo of 515067 in original paint and Bob's Photo
has a side view of 515293 repainted 6-61 with a maple leaf emblem.
Regards,
Ed Hawkins

Need GTW roster info

Dennis Storzek
 

Any Grand Trunk Western experts here? There is a gentleman asking on the Railway Preservation News Interchange board for builder information on a boxcar that a transfer caboose in their collection was rebuilt from.

The car is presently GTW 75072, rebuilt at the Port Huron car shops in the early seventies.

They found the number GTW 515165 on the frame, and would like builder and built date info on the original car to complete their history.

Thanx,

Dennis

Re: Accucals

Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
 

Tim O'Connor wrote:
My own experience is that Champ and Solvaset are strong solutions -- I only use them after the decal is "set" in place. The Microsale solutions I use for initial softening, because they are weak and have a longer working time.
My experience exactly.

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FYI: Star Brand paint is not Accupaint

Tim O'Connor
 

Although P-B-L's Star Brand paint is very similar in most
respects, I've just discovered why it isn't the same -- I
have two bottles that I found turned into a thick gel! I had
never opened those two particular bottles. This is impossible
with Accupaint. If you leave an AP bottle open to the air it
will dry up, leaving only the pigment -- adding back thinner
and a couple drops of retarder will bring it back like new.
The Star gel is hopelessly gooey -- like what can happen with
Scalecoat.

We all know Star Brand needs to be thinned 50% before using
(and says so in the instructions) but there must be something
else in it that makes it different than AP.

Tim O'Connor

Bill Welch contact me

Mike Brock <brockm@...>
 

Bill,
Please contact me offline.

Mike Brock

Re: New Lackawanna box car models available

Donald B. Valentine
 

--- In STMFC@..., "Schuyler Larrabee" <schuyler.larrabee@...> wrote: in part:

The Erie Lackawanna Historical Society has worked closely with Intermountain to produce a unique
model, exclusive with the ELHS. It is a combination of sides, ends and roof which has not been
previously produced, and exactly matches the prototype.

These are steam era freight cars, built in January and February 1950.
As nice as it will be for many to have these cars available I suspect the 1950 built date will be a bit of a stretch for most of
us who are seriously "steam era". With the exception of the Central Vermont most of the larger steam power on other New England roads was gone by that point. While the effort is commended I hope earlier prototypes will be forthcoming too.

Don Valentine

Re: Accucals

Donald B. Valentine
 

--- In STMFC@..., "Schuyler Larrabee" <schuyler.larrabee@...> wrote:

Thanks, Greg and John. But have you used Solvaset on Accucals?

Schuyler,

Before switching to Microsol and Microset some time ago I used Solvaset on Accucals quite frequently. If memory serves, toward the
end of that use I ran into a bottle that seemed stronger than those used previously and promptly cut it. I have, however, spoken with George Bishop in recent months and will try to raise the question
directly with him and advise further.

Best wishes, Don Valentine

Re: Accucals

Andrew Miller <aslmmiller@...>
 

Solvaset is much stronger than MircoScale's decal setting stuff. In fact Solvaset on Microscale decals will destroy them. When I was out of Microscale stuff I had success dissolving Solvaset in water 1:1.

regards,

Andy Miller

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Schuyler,

Have you tried Solvaset? I switch between Solvaset and Champ Decal
solution. I have had no luck with the Micro Scale two solution system...

Greg Martin


In a message dated 8/11/2009 8:11:00 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
schuyler.larrabee@... writes:

So, SMP is out of business, and the setting solution for Accucals isn't
available from that source.

In the past, I tried using Champ's Decal-Set, but that was not as
effective as the Accucal solution.
I've not tried the Microsol/Microset solutions on Accucals.

I have a substantial stock of Accucals that are not duplicated by anybody
else's products.

Advice?

SGL
La vita e breve, mangiate prima il dolce!

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Re: CCX Carbon Black Car

Ed Hawkins
 

On Aug 12, 2009, at 5:51 AM, atsfsd26 wrote:

Would someone be kind enough to provide the ORER data for Columbian
Carbon CCX #218-307, please.
This group of cars should be listed in ORERs from 1948 - 1956, and
maybe others.
I want to make decals for these cars, and while I have a photo for
placement of the lettering, I can't read much of the data.
Thanks in advance
Dave North
Dave,
Your question is simple enough, but the answer is more complicated
because the cars were built in 6 different groups having different
build dates and being lettered in significantly different ways.

One series of 20 cars (288-307) was built 10-47 with relatively plain
lettering. All of the others were built between 1937 and 1941 with some
of them originally built with SCNX reporting marks. The SCNX cars were
all transferred to CCX by 1942. The CCX cars in series 263-287 (two
groups built 12-40 and 10-41) had original lettering that was more
involved with "Micronex Beads" and other stencils. I have a decent
print of an AC&F builder's photo of CCX 304 that I can use to help with
your decal project. Please contact me off list (hawk0621@...)
and we can discuss further.
Regards,
Ed Hawkins

CCX Carbon Black Car

atsfsd26 <davenorth@...>
 

Would someone be kind enough to provide the ORER data for Columbian Carbon CCX #218-307, please.
This group of cars should be listed in ORERs from 1948 - 1956, and maybe others.
I want to make decals for these cars, and while I have a photo for placement of the lettering, I can't read much of the data.
Thanks in advance
Dave North

Re: Accucals

asychis@...
 

Any idea what these solutions are, chemically? If I understand correctly,
many are mixtures of various alcohols and water. For example, Solvaset is a
mixture of methoxy-1-propanol and methoxy-2-propanol. I don't know if those
two are in any common products, but isopropanol sure is (rubbing alcohol).
Point is, it may be possible to concoct an equivalent.

There's a definite smell of vinegar in these solutions too. I wonder if
something like acetic acid is also a component.

Jerry Michels

Re: Accucals

tmolsen@...
 

Solveset is great for applying decals, but when first opening a NEW bottle, DO NOT APPLY at FULL STRENGTH! I found that out the hard way and one mistake was enough as it likes to wipe out decals. Dipping the brush into a little water will tone done the strength of the solution and you won't have problems with it.

A buddy of mine was applying decals to a Precision Scale Milk Car and there where two milk bottles on each side of the car, one at each end of the side. These were two part dcecals: 1st the white bottle shape and 2nd, the bottle outline and text on the bottle as an overlay. The car was complete with the exception of the bottle decals. He applied the bottle decals and was putting on the overlays. He ran out of Solveset after putting on the 3rd overlay, so he opened a new bottle. Well, he forgot how strong Solveset was and used it straight from the bottle to put the last overlay on. These were thin film decals. Once applied, the decal just shriveled up and died. To this day, he has not been able to locate a replacement set of those decals as they were custom-made for Precision Scale and they did not have any left.

Otherwise, Solveset used properly is just great for all applications of decals. Like any solvent, you have to be careful in it's use.

Tom Olsen
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Re: Accucals

Tim O'Connor
 

Whatever works with Microscale decals should work with Accucals.
Many of the Accucals were printed by Microscale. My own experience
is that Champ and Solvaset are strong solutions -- I only use them
after the decal is "set" in place. The Microsale solutions I use
for initial softening, because they are weak and have a longer
working time. I can't tell the difference between them after a
couple hundred times.

Tim O

Schuyler,
Have you tried Solvaset? I switch between Solvaset and Champ Decal
solution. I have had no luck with the Micro Scale two solution system...
Greg Martin

Re: Accucals

Frederick Freitas <prrinvt@...>
 

Schuyler,
 
              Stick with the Solvaset, amd you won't have issues. Micor-Sol 2 part system is best on old, thick decals.
 
Fred Freitas

--- On Tue, 8/11/09, Schuyler Larrabee <schuyler.larrabee@...> wrote:


From: Schuyler Larrabee <schuyler.larrabee@...>
Subject: [STMFC] Accucals
To: STMFC@...
Date: Tuesday, August 11, 2009, 11:10 PM


 



So, SMP is out of business, and the setting solution for Accucals isn't available from that source.

In the past, I tried using Champ's Decal-Set, but that was not as effective as the Accucal solution.
I've not tried the Microsol/Microset solutions on Accucals.

I have a substantial stock of Accucals that are not duplicated by anybody else's products.

Advice?

SGL
La vita e breve, mangiate prima il dolce!

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Re: Accucals

Schuyler Larrabee
 

Thanks, Greg and John. But have you used Solvaset on Accucals?

SGL

I have used Solvaset for many years and like the way it works and the finished product. I am
experimenting with Micro
Sol again, but so far I haven't seen an improvement over Solvaset. Just my personal experience.

John Stokes
Bellevue, WA

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Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 00:20:04 -0400
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Accucals

Schuyler,

Have you tried Solvaset? I switch between Solvaset and Champ Decal

solution. I have had no luck with the Micro Scale two solution system...

Greg Martin

In a message dated 8/11/2009 8:11:00 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,

schuyler.larrabee@... <mailto:schuyler.larrabee%40verizon.net> writes:

So, SMP is out of business, and the setting solution for Accucals isn't

available from that source.

In the past, I tried using Champ's Decal-Set, but that was not as

effective as the Accucal solution.

I've not tried the Microsol/Microset solutions on Accucals.

I have a substantial stock of Accucals that are not duplicated by anybody

else's products.

Advice?

SGL

La vita e breve, mangiate prima il dolce!

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