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Ex WW2 Troop Sleeper semi-freight car photo source

al.kresse <water.kresse@...>
 

Does anyone know of a source for a hi-res photo copy of the Pullman blt troop sleeper cars as deliveried in 1943 and 1944 . . . builder's or in-train images will do? I'd like to use it/them in a Box Express car article.

Also, from their freight diagram sheets, it appears those express box cars equipped with Allied Full-Cushion trucks with 50-ton journals were restricted to 50,000 pounds capacity, but when returned to "regular" freight car service, were rated back up to 100,000 pound capacities. Is this because of average speeds expected. Did the bulletins restricting the use of these trucks have speed ratings?

Also looking for good images of CGS High-Speed Reefer and Box Express trucks.


Re: Champ Ceasing Business (Was Accucals)

tmolsen@...
 

On Tuesday, I spoke with Connie at Champ to see if her online catalog was up to date. In our conversation, she advised that she had used up all of the decal paper that she had on hand in printing the most popular decals that had been selling well.

She had remarried after Richard's death, but unfortunately her new husband was diagnosed with terminal liver cancer and he subsequently passed away last year. Now she is engaged to marry again about six months from now and said that with all that has gone by in the last three years, if she does not find a buyer for the decal business, she will close it down. The window may extend to early spring 2010, but it may be just after he wedding. She said that presently the business takes a lot of time and she wants to retire to enjoy what life will bring in the future. Can't say that I blame her, as Champ has been in business since 1963 when Richard bought from Max Gray. Connie has been the printer from the time she married Rich until the present.

She has withdrawn the Champ ads which had been running in RMC and is not contemplating advertising again due to the cost of doing so.

In the meantime, she continues to sell decals from stock and advises those using the online catalog to refresh the screen after pulling up the decal lists so as to be sure to get the latest update. Her daughter Kim is handling the online catalog and will be making changes as the stock of decals change.

So, I would suggest that we consult our decal inventories and order what we think that we will need from Champ in the future as the end of the year will come faster than we think. Here is the link for Champ: http://www.minot.com/champ/

Also, I was speaking with Trisha Lofton and she advised that when Champ closes, Sunshine will discontinue the car kits which use specific heralds and lettering that they presently by from Champ.

Trisha advises that everything is on track for Naperville in the fall and hopes that someone will come forth to continue this show next year after they give it up this year. Martin had told me back in February at Timonium that they will continue to make and sell kits as the mail order business is continuing to be strong and that they will be attending shows from time to time, but as vendors only!

Regards,

Tom Olsen
7 Boundary Road, West Branch
Newark, Delaware, 19711-7479
(302) 738-4292
tmolsen@...


Re: Accucals

roblmclear <rob.mclear2@...>
 

I have been following this thread with interest and I have to say that I have never had a problem with Solvaset and Microscale decals. I have used it straight from the bottle on Microscale decals in a custom painting and finishing business for the past 8 years and have had not the slightest bit of trouble. In fact I have used it on Champ and Oddball decals with the same excellent results.

I don't doubt that others may have had trouble but I have to say that that is not my experience. Does anyone know if Solvaset is sold with a different formula for overseas perhaps? I should also add that I have no connection at all with the product other than being a very satisfied customer.

Rob McLear
Brisbane Australia.

--- In STMFC@..., "pennsylvania1954" <stevehprr@...> wrote:

Eventually, but they still have a lot of decals to sell first. They just aren't making any new ones.

Steve Hoxie
Pensacola FL



--- In STMFC@..., "Schuyler Larrabee" <schuyler.larrabee@> wrote in part:

Hmmm. Champ ceasing business. Will Decal-Set be discontinued, becoming the Kodachrome of our
hobby?


SGL


Re: Accucals

pennsylvania1954
 

Eventually, but they still have a lot of decals to sell first. They just aren't making any new ones.

Steve Hoxie
Pensacola FL



--- In STMFC@..., "Schuyler Larrabee" <schuyler.larrabee@...> wrote in part:


Hmmm. Champ ceasing business. Will Decal-Set be discontinued, becoming the Kodachrome of our
hobby?


SGL


Re: New Lackawanna box car models available

Tim O'Connor
 

Mike Del Vecchio wrote

I'm not aware of a decorated Phoebe boxcar before the ELHS offering
that's yet been done in the correct combination of lettering, artwork,
era and details.
Are there problems with Branchline kit #1912 (50ft car)?
And Red Caboose #8010 (1944 paint) and #8069 (1955 paint)?

Tim O'Connor


Re: Thermice

Tim O'Connor
 

CO2 can be recovered from combustion or chemical processes. It
has many uses. The model you mention belongs on the scrap heap! :-)
There are no HO scale models of CO2 tank cars (the kind with
cylindrical tanks). In the 1950's most CO2 was shipped in
solid form (dry ice) in heavily insulated reefers. There are
models for those.

Tim O'

At 8/12/2009 10:19 PM Wednesday, you wrote:
At the North Shore Model Railroad Club, we have a Thermice tank car, which, we think, carried carbon
dioxide. We'd like to make some realistic waybills for it.

One of the other guys has found a location of the company in Thorofare, NJ, near Paulsboro. That
looks like a dry ice plant, not a place that would originate CO2.

Can anyone provide information on where those cars might have carried CO2 from and to ?

SGL


Re: New Lackawanna box car models available

MDelvec952 <MDelvec952@...>
 

In a message dated 08/12/09 00:34:08 Eastern Daylight Time, schuyler.larrabee@... writes:
These are steam era freight cars, built in January and February 1950. The repack date is 8/55, but
that is easily weathered and replaced. The cars are assembled models.
-----------------------

Steam era, yes, on the N&W, NKP and UP during the harvests. Nice cars, yes.

Remember, though, that this initial offering is in a lettering scheme that began mid-1955. The offering coming in a couple of months will be in the 1942 Phoebe Snow billboard factory applied to a 1950-built car.

I'm not aware of a decorated Phoebe boxcar before the ELHS offering that's yet been done in the correct combination of lettering, artwork, era and details. Some have had modern typefaces, wrong number series for the door style, or a mixture of 1942 and 1955 elements on the same car, shop lettering on a factory painted car and vice-versa, wrong colors, and so on. And we won't get into the blue-box Athearn boxcar from many years ago.

The current ELHS offering represents a couple of rare cars of which photos exist, showing factory lettering on a repainted car, which is very interesting.

Full disclosure: I am an ELHS member and was part of the imagineering team. I have two of the current cars, but plan to load up the next version. And I hope ELHS will produce the more numerous 1937 car with the 4/5 dreadnaught end with the correct lettering and door styles.

Mike Del Vecchio


Re: Accucals

Schuyler Larrabee
 

Thanks to all who have advised me on this. It appears that I need to buy a bottle of Solvaset,
which I have only used a few times with a notable lack of success on other decals. I have used
Champ Decal-Set almost exclusively for years and find it does everything I need . . . except work
with Accucals. 8^/ I always use Accu-set on Accucals.


Hmmm. Champ ceasing business. Will Decal-Set be discontinued, becoming the Kodachrome of our
hobby?


SGL

-----Original Message-----
From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of Donald B. Valentine
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 10:59 AM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Accucals



--- In STMFC@... <mailto:STMFC%40yahoogroups.com> , "Schuyler Larrabee"
<schuyler.larrabee@...> wrote:

Thanks, Greg and John. But have you used Solvaset on Accucals?
Schuyler,

Before switching to Microsol and Microset some time ago I used Solvaset on Accucals quite
frequently. If memory
serves, toward the
end of that use I ran into a bottle that seemed stronger than those used previously and promptly
cut it. I have, however,
spoken with George Bishop in recent months and will try to raise the question
directly with him and advise further.

Best wishes, Don Valentine








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Re: Thermice

al_brown03
 

Dry ice is solid CO2.

To be continued, after I look up manufacturing methods ...

Al Brown, Melbourne, Fla.

--- In STMFC@..., "Schuyler Larrabee" <schuyler.larrabee@...> wrote:

At the North Shore Model Railroad Club, we have a Thermice tank car, which, we think, carried carbon
dioxide. We'd like to make some realistic waybills for it.

One of the other guys has found a location of the company in Thorofare, NJ, near Paulsboro. That
looks like a dry ice plant, not a place that would originate CO2.

Can anyone provide information on where those cars might have carried CO2 from and to ?

SGL
La vita e breve, mangiate prima il dolce!






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New WrightTRAK DT&I caboose

seaboard_1966
 

Guys, a short announcement here, if you will. WrightTRAK is pleased to announce the production of our newest caboose. This one is an International Car Company DT&I 100-117 series of cars. Please go to www.wrighttrak.com for more information on these and other WrightTRAK products.

Regards,

Denis Blake
Marketing Director
WrightTRAK Railroad Models, LLC


Re: New Lackawanna box car models available

Mike Brock <brockm@...>
 

Don Valentine writes:

As nice as it will be for many to have these cars available I suspect the 1950 built date will be a bit of a stretch for most of
us who are seriously "steam era". With the exception of the Central Vermont most of the larger steam power on other New England roads was gone by that point.
Well...not being that familiar with New England RR's I certainly won't argue against that. However. If the STMFC has done nothing more to expand the general information about frt cars...and, in this case...box cars...surely it has shown with no doubt at all that box cars traveled all around the US. Thus, we have films showing NYC and PA box cars on short lines in the Cascades, FEC box cars on Sherman Hill, ATSF box cars on Long Island...etc., etc., and wheel reports stating the same thing. So...why would 1950 be a stretch for a steam era RR? Certainly REAL HE RR's like UP, SP, ATSF, Pennsy, NP, GN, L&N, MP, C&O and N&W found steam powered locomotion to be quite acceptable in 1950.

Mike Brock


Re: quick service question

Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
 

Steve Lucas wrote:
Sort of both. Missiassauga is a conurbation comprised of Streetsville, Meadowvale, (both served by the CPR) and Port Credit/ Clarkson/Lakeview (served by CN) amlagamated in 1973.
Thanks, Steve.

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Thermice

Schuyler Larrabee
 

At the North Shore Model Railroad Club, we have a Thermice tank car, which, we think, carried carbon
dioxide. We'd like to make some realistic waybills for it.

One of the other guys has found a location of the company in Thorofare, NJ, near Paulsboro. That
looks like a dry ice plant, not a place that would originate CO2.

Can anyone provide information on where those cars might have carried CO2 from and to ?

SGL
La vita e breve, mangiate prima il dolce!






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Re: quick service question

Steve Lucas <stevelucas3@...>
 

Sort of both. Missiassauga is a conurbation comprised of Streetsville, Meadowvale, (both served by the CPR) and Port Credit/Clarkson/Lakeview (served by CN) amlagamated in 1973. --- In STMFC@..., Anthony Thompson <thompson@...> wrote:


In the steam era, was Mississauga, Ontario served by CN, CP or
both?

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quick service question

Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
 

In the steam era, was Mississauga, Ontario served by CN, CP or both?

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Re: Need GTW roster info

Dennis Storzek
 

Thanks Ed. I'll pass the info along, with credit. I never cease to be amazed (appalled, really) at how hard it is for railway museums to find this information that we take for granted.

By the way, the transfer caboose has recently been restored at the Hoosier Valley Railroad Museum, North Judson, Indiana.

Dennis


Re: Need GTW roster info

Ed Hawkins
 

On Aug 12, 2009, at 4:35 PM, Dennis Storzek wrote:

They found the number GTW 515165 on the frame, and would like builder
and built date info on the original car to complete their history.
Dennis,
GTW 515000-515499 were 40' all-steel riveted postwar AAR box cars with
7' door openings & Youngstown doors, 4/4 Improved Dreadnaught Ends, and
Murphy panel roofs. They were built by Pullman-Standard ca. 1-48 (lot
no. 5891). I'm aware of two in-service photos from the series. Richard
Burg has a good 3/4 photo of 515067 in original paint and Bob's Photo
has a side view of 515293 repainted 6-61 with a maple leaf emblem.
Regards,
Ed Hawkins


Need GTW roster info

Dennis Storzek
 

Any Grand Trunk Western experts here? There is a gentleman asking on the Railway Preservation News Interchange board for builder information on a boxcar that a transfer caboose in their collection was rebuilt from.

The car is presently GTW 75072, rebuilt at the Port Huron car shops in the early seventies.

They found the number GTW 515165 on the frame, and would like builder and built date info on the original car to complete their history.

Thanx,

Dennis


Re: Accucals

Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
 

Tim O'Connor wrote:
My own experience is that Champ and Solvaset are strong solutions -- I only use them after the decal is "set" in place. The Microsale solutions I use for initial softening, because they are weak and have a longer working time.
My experience exactly.

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FYI: Star Brand paint is not Accupaint

Tim O'Connor
 

Although P-B-L's Star Brand paint is very similar in most
respects, I've just discovered why it isn't the same -- I
have two bottles that I found turned into a thick gel! I had
never opened those two particular bottles. This is impossible
with Accupaint. If you leave an AP bottle open to the air it
will dry up, leaving only the pigment -- adding back thinner
and a couple drops of retarder will bring it back like new.
The Star gel is hopelessly gooey -- like what can happen with
Scalecoat.

We all know Star Brand needs to be thinned 50% before using
(and says so in the instructions) but there must be something
else in it that makes it different than AP.

Tim O'Connor