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Re: Details West Track details

tmolsen@...
 

Hi Bill,

Here is the link to the Details West Home Page:

http://www.detailswest.com/

The link to the Track detail page:

http://www.detailswest.com/switch_frog_detail_page.htm


And the link to the Catalog page:

http://www.detailswest.com/catalog%20page.htm

Now you can take your pick! Hope this helps!

Best regards in your new position and new home. Great to hear from you!

Tom Olsen
7 Boundary Road, West Branch
Newark, Delaware, 19711-7479
(302) 738-4292 (Home)
(302) 740-2897 (Cell)
tmolsen@udel.edu


Details West Track details

Bill Welch
 

Isn't there a website with photos of the various Details West track related details over which our freight cars (manditory content) travel?

Bill Welch


Union starch tank cars

Brian Carlson <brian@...>
 

This years, Naperville offering include more GATC Type 30 kits for food
commodities. One kit offered is for a Union starch & Refining Co tank car.
These were quite colorful, and I have a color slide of one in the mid
1950's. I was wondering if anyone has more information on this company,
service areas, how wide and far they may have traveled, what industries they
served?

Brian J. Carlson, P.E.
Cheektowaga NY


Re: Update - IM Santa Fe Ft-V flat car

Brian Carlson <brian@...>
 

I agree with you Bruce, My B&O car is complete, much in the same way you did
it, except I managed to not break any stirrups or the air hoses. I did sand
two fingernails though. Maybe the next runs will compensate for the tape
thickness. I used Barge cement to reattach my deck. I have had too many
issues with ACC popping due to different shrinkage and expansion rates.

Brian J. Carlson, P.E.
Cheektowaga NY

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--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Brock" <brockm@...> wrote:
So...let's move on to more useful
subjects...like problems with the model. Richard says the the laser cut
wood
floor is too thick. How much too thick? Can it be lowered by sanding?


Update - IM Santa Fe Ft-V flat car

Bruce Smith
 

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Brock" <brockm@...> wrote:
So...let's move on to more useful
subjects...like problems with the model. Richard says the the laser cut wood
floor is too thick. How much too thick? Can it be lowered by sanding?
Mike, Folks,

Having received my IM 70 ton AAR flat (ATSF class Ft-V), I set about to answer this, and in the process, discovered where IM may have strayed... at least partially.

The laser-cut wood deck on the model is held on with super-sticky double sided tape. I was able to remove the deck pieces by gentle, but persistent work with a "chisel" blade. The deck came off with the tape and often the paint on it (no worries - the paint is under the deck!). The same blade was useful in scraping the tape off of the back of the deck. Following that, I cleaned the back of the deck and the car with Goo Gone to remove the sticky crud that was left. At that point, test fitting the deck resulted in a much closer fit. I think IM forgot to include the thickness of the tape and paint in their calculations for the model! <G>

I also seized upon the opportunity to remove the little tags that were left by the laser cutter to attach the decks to the supporting frets. I also cleaned out the slots in the main deck where the bolster bumps out towards the middle of the car - these were definitely too tight on the RTR model.

Because I wanted the deck to be perfectly level with the bolster tops, I did decide to sand the back. I used some 90 grit, VERY CAREFULLY, followed by 200 grit paper to slightly thin the pieces. 20-40 light strokes was all it took. The deck is now drying on my workbench after staining with a mix of black and brown leather dye diluted in alcohol (to give the car a look of relatively fresh creosote. I plan to attach the deck with gel type ACC when it is dry.

All this handling has resulted in two more repairs. Both the air hoses and the stirrup steps did not survive my ham handed work, so they will have to be replaced. In addition, I have replaced the wheels with 0.088 tread wheels from Branchline and the #5 clones with Kadee #58 couplers.

Regards
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL


Re: WIF West India Fruit decals question

al_brown03
 

The photo of WIF 106, recently discussed, has this scheme.

Al Brown, Melbourne, Fla.

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:

What WIF cars were decorated like these Champ decals? I have
only seen photos of the Florida-Havana Car Ferries lettering.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280391409327

Tim O'Connor


WIF West India Fruit decals question

Tim O'Connor
 

What WIF cars were decorated like these Champ decals? I have
only seen photos of the Florida-Havana Car Ferries lettering.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280391409327

Tim O'Connor


Re: RP-CYC Index

Jim & Lisa Hayes <jimandlisa97225@...>
 

There's also the index on the RP-CYC site
http://www.geocities.com/rpcyc/home.html.
It's not sortable but does include a descriptive paragraph about each
article.

Jim Hayes
Portland Oregon
www.sunshinekits.com

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Subject: [STMFC] RP-CYC Index

This may have been done before but I thought I would share my X-cel version
to help finding articles in the great RP-CYC series as it continues to grow.

There are 2 sorts, one by voulme and one by subject. Feel free to sort as
you wish. It's not protected.

I'll put in in the files section.

Bill McCoy
Jax, FL



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Re: RP-CYC Index

Steve SANDIFER
 

Thanks for doing this. We now need an index of photos.
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Subject: [STMFC] RP-CYC Index


This may have been done before but I thought I would share my X-cel version to help finding articles in the great RP-CYC series as it continues to grow.

There are 2 sorts, one by voulme and one by subject. Feel free to sort as you wish. It's not protected.

I'll put in in the files section.

Bill McCoy
Jax, FL


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RP-CYC Index

Bill McCoy
 

This may have been done before but I thought I would share my X-cel version to help finding articles in the great RP-CYC series as it continues to grow.

There are 2 sorts, one by voulme and one by subject. Feel free to sort as you wish. It's not protected.

I'll put in in the files section.

Bill McCoy
Jax, FL


Re: ORER QUESTION

pierreoliver2003 <pierre.oliver@...>
 

Tim & Steve,
I think you've both forgotten that Sylvan Scale Models offers the desired end in question as a resin part, DP-0043(formerly CRMPG 1848E)
Also the 8 rung ladders can be had from Des Plaines Hobbies.
Pierre Oliver

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:

Steve,

Only Intermountain makes the IDE-2 end. This end was first
released on their CN and CP cars along with correct 8-rung
Canadian style ladders. The models represented earlier cars
than the 531700 series.

You're right, to model the 531700 series you have to use a
diagonal panel roof and Branchline's YSD-2 doors. Both the
IM and BL cars are 10'6" tall. So it's use a Branchline body
and roof with IM ends and ladders, or IM body and ladders
with BL roof and doors. IM has sold me bodies by themselves
for about $2 each and other sprues for 0.75 each for kitbash
projects so that's why I would probably go that way.

Tim O'Connor



From series 531700-533199 built 1951 ECC, YSD-2 doors, DP roof,
10 panel riveted sides, 4/4 IDE-2 ends, 8-rung ladders (This
type of car is available in HO from Intermountain)
This series was 10'-6" i.h., and I'd go with the Branchline Blueprint version with a diagonal-panel roof (though I recall a car length issue with this kit) of his car myself. The only Intermountain CN-decorated 10'-6" i.h. boxcars that I've seen used a raised panel roof, only used on 1948-built cars of this inside height.


Re: ORER QUESTION

Tim O'Connor
 

Steve,

Only Intermountain makes the IDE-2 end. This end was first
released on their CN and CP cars along with correct 8-rung
Canadian style ladders. The models represented earlier cars
than the 531700 series.

You're right, to model the 531700 series you have to use a
diagonal panel roof and Branchline's YSD-2 doors. Both the
IM and BL cars are 10'6" tall. So it's use a Branchline body
and roof with IM ends and ladders, or IM body and ladders
with BL roof and doors. IM has sold me bodies by themselves
for about $2 each and other sprues for 0.75 each for kitbash
projects so that's why I would probably go that way.

Tim O'Connor

From series 531700-533199 built 1951 ECC, YSD-2 doors, DP roof,
10 panel riveted sides, 4/4 IDE-2 ends, 8-rung ladders (This
type of car is available in HO from Intermountain)
This series was 10'-6" i.h., and I'd go with the Branchline Blueprint version with a diagonal-panel roof (though I recall a car length issue with this kit) of his car myself. The only Intermountain CN-decorated 10'-6" i.h. boxcars that I've seen used a raised panel roof, only used on 1948-built cars of this inside height.


Diatomite

Paul Catapano
 

http://minerals.usgs.gov/minerals/pubs/commodity/diatomite/
 
"Diatomite is a chalk-like, soft, friable, earthy, very fine-grained, siliceous sedimentary rock, usually light in color (white if pure, commonly buff to gray in situ, and rarely black)..."

Paul Catapano


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Re: ORER QUESTION

stevelucas3 <stevelucas3@...>
 

Just a few little points about the CN cars, Tim.

Steve Lucas.

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:


CN 532470
From series 531700-533199 built 1951 ECC, YSD-2 doors, DP roof,
10 panel riveted sides, 4/4 IDE-2 ends, 8-rung ladders (This
type of car is available in HO from Intermountain)
This series was 10'-6" i.h., and I'd go with the Branchline Blueprint version with a diagonal-panel roof (though I recall a car length issue with this kit) of his car myself. The only Intermountain CN-decorated 10'-6" i.h. boxcars that I've seen used a raised panel roof, only used on 1948-built cars of this inside height.

CN 484199
From series 484165-485514 built1944 NSC, 10'0"IH, RP roof,
NSC-2 ends, 6' door (This car is now available in HO from
True Line Trains)
A very nice model. Some runs had small issues with placement of ladders and lettering. But Allen Ferguson's Black Cat makes excellent decals to put this right, and one can move the ladders easily. It appears that these cars had segmented running boards, with each board running from one roof carline to the next, instead of the more-commonly modelled long boards running board. I can describe how I've modelled this type of running board.

By the way, "NSC-2" is not a prototype designation. It was coined by Stafford Swain to describe one variant of a National Steel Car boxcar end, and is now used almost universally by Canadian modellers.

Tim O'Connor


Re: ORER QUESTION

SUVCWORR@...
 

PRR 23871? X29d

PRR 600525? X43b

Rich Orr

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GENTLEMAN:I given a neat pile of waybills and all dated 1958,my newest ORER is
3-1954.On the way bills are car numbers and was wondering if anyone can tell me
the types of cars.

PRR 23871
CN 532470
CN 484199
PRR 600525
DTI 12128
CNW 105670

THANKS
JOEL NORMAN--MISSOURI



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Re: Diatomite, talc and cement.. in boxcars or covered hoppers?

stevelucas3 <stevelucas3@...>
 

Circa 1916, the GTR built an experimental steel-frame boxcar with hinged floors and hoppers. It was designed to carry grain from Midland, ON, to Portland, ME. The floor over the hoppers could be swung upwards and secured against the inside of the side sheathing to allow the car to carry coal on the return movement from Portland, ME, to Island Pond, VT., and points west.

Steve Lucas.

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Anthony Thompson <thompson@...> wrote:

Doug Harding wrote:
Jim, I was under the impression the first dedicated use covered
hoppers were for Carbon Black, ie the early 30's.
Back in 1911, Anheuser Busch built such a car for malt service.

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2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
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Re: Diatomite, talc and cement.. in boxcars or covered hoppers?

Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
 

Doug Harding wrote:
Jim, I was under the impression the first dedicated use covered hoppers were for Carbon Black, ie the early 30's.
Back in 1911, Anheuser Busch built such a car for malt service.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@signaturepress.com
Publishers of books on railroad history


Re: Diatomite, talc and cement.. in boxcars or covered hoppers?

Douglas Harding <dharding@...>
 

Jim, I was under the impression the first dedicated use covered hoppers were for Carbon Black, ie the early 30's. Seems to me
there was quite a discussion of these cars on this list when models of the Carbon Black cars were issued a couple of years ago.

Doug Harding
www.iowacentralrr.org


Re: Moody's Industrials

Roger Hinman <rhinman@...>
 

I've gotten ORERs from 1904 and 1912 off Google books as well

Roger Hinman

On Sep 4, 2009, at 8:21 AM, Ray Breyer wrote:

Two more, new today (drought for
years and then a flood). Price is average.
Don't know seller.
=====================
1. Moody's Manual of Investments and Security Rating
Service, Industrial Securities, 1958
2. Moody's Manual of Investments and Security Rating
Service, Industrial Securities, 1927
I've never seen a pre-WWII edition.
Dave Nelson
Hi Dave,

Moody's are starting to pop up as free downloads on Google Books.
1917 and 1918 are up now, as well as a couple of Moody's Magazines
and supplements to the annuals.

I've been finding lots of great reference material on Google Books
recently, especially for anyone modeling the 1915-1920 period. There
are 1889, 1894 and 1917 Poor's Manual there, as well as two full
ORERs (1913 & 1917), and the 1908 and 1909 Official Guides. I
haven't finished grabbing all of the ICC reports and decisions yet;
there are dozens. There's even a copy of the lease agreement between
the NYC and B&A.

Google Books is slowly starting to turn into a decent research
database for STMFC'ers.

Regards,
Ray Breyer


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