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Tichy Bolsters was..RE: Update - IM Santa Fe Ft-V flat car

Brian Carlson <brian@...>
 

Be careful with these. I "pressed" one into a bolster and on removal it
broke, causing me to have to re-drill and tap the screw hole. I modified
them by inserting longer 2-56 screws from the bottom and screwing them into
the bolsters now when I use them.

Brian J. Carlson, P.E.
Cheektowaga NY

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From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of Rob
Kirkham
Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 6:26 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Update - IM Santa Fe Ft-V flat car

I think Tichy includes a pair of small T shaped plastic parts in the USRA SS

kit that would work to protect some of the underbody. They press fit into
the bolsters until the trucks are ready to be applied. I do not see a
reason you couldn't insert them (without glue of course) and then glue their

bases to some .06" styrene sheet cut a little wider than the outline of the
car (looking from the track up). It wouldn't stop every ding, but most of
them.

Rob Kirkham

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From: "Tim O'Connor" <timboconnor@...>
Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 10:54 AM
To: <STMFC@...>
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Update - IM Santa Fe Ft-V flat car

All this handling has resulted in two more repairs. Both the air hoses
and the stirrup steps did not survive my ham handed work, so they will
have to be replaced. In addition, I have replaced the wheels with 0.088
tread wheels from Branchline and the #5 clones with Kadee #58 couplers.
Regards
Bruce Smith

Bruce, I need a tool item as follows: a device that screws into
the truck bolster (remove trucks first) and that projects outwards
creating a protective "box" around the sill steps. With one of these
devices screwed into each bolster, I could work on virtually any
freight car -- painting, details, repairs, decaling -- without any
danger to the delicate sill steps, brake hoses, cut levers etc.

I have such an item for painting -- a metal jig with two metal
"handles" that screw into the car and into the jig, so the car can
be painted easily without having to touch the car body. But when
working on the car one wants to handle the car, lay it down, etc
and this always involves risk to the small details.

I can't tell you how many brake hoses and sill steps I've broken and
had to replace by now. I'm sure it numbers in the dozens. Usually I have
replacement parts, but not always. I'd much rather not break them in the
first place.

Tim O'Connor






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Re: Naperville meet oct. 2009 -share a room

Richard Hendrickson
 

On Sep 3, 2009, at 4:26 PM, up4884114152002 wrote:

My name is Dave Friedman and I am looking for someone
to share a 2 bedroom room at the Meet. I am arriving
on Thursday afternoon and have a room already reserved. 2 double beds.
i am staying til Sunday morning so I am looking for someone to
share the 3 nights charges. the room is $94/night plus tax. I need
someone
who is a non-snorer please. i am 65 years old and from New York
City where I am an attorney and model railroader. Please email me
at work so we can work out the details.dlfriedman@...
Dave, I've been out of town for three days, so I'm late responding,
and you probably have a roommate lined up by now. But if not, I'll
be arriving Thursday night, leaving Sunday, and would be pleased to
share a room with you. (PS: I don't snore).

Richard Hendrickson


Re: Update - IM Santa Fe Ft-V flat car

Robert kirkham
 

I think Tichy includes a pair of small T shaped plastic parts in the USRA SS kit that would work to protect some of the underbody. They press fit into the bolsters until the trucks are ready to be applied. I do not see a reason you couldn't insert them (without glue of course) and then glue their bases to some .06" styrene sheet cut a little wider than the outline of the car (looking from the track up). It wouldn't stop every ding, but most of them.

Rob Kirkham

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From: "Tim O'Connor" <timboconnor@...>
Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 10:54 AM
To: <STMFC@...>
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Update - IM Santa Fe Ft-V flat car

All this handling has resulted in two more repairs. Both the air hoses
and the stirrup steps did not survive my ham handed work, so they will
have to be replaced. In addition, I have replaced the wheels with 0.088
tread wheels from Branchline and the #5 clones with Kadee #58 couplers.
Regards
Bruce Smith

Bruce, I need a tool item as follows: a device that screws into
the truck bolster (remove trucks first) and that projects outwards
creating a protective "box" around the sill steps. With one of these
devices screwed into each bolster, I could work on virtually any
freight car -- painting, details, repairs, decaling -- without any
danger to the delicate sill steps, brake hoses, cut levers etc.

I have such an item for painting -- a metal jig with two metal
"handles" that screw into the car and into the jig, so the car can
be painted easily without having to touch the car body. But when
working on the car one wants to handle the car, lay it down, etc
and this always involves risk to the small details.

I can't tell you how many brake hoses and sill steps I've broken and
had to replace by now. I'm sure it numbers in the dozens. Usually I have
replacement parts, but not always. I'd much rather not break them in the
first place.

Tim O'Connor






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Re: Update - IM Santa Fe Ft-V flat car

mcindoefalls
 

--- In STMFC@..., Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:

Bruce, I need a tool item as follows: a device that screws into
the truck bolster (remove trucks first) and that projects outwards
creating a protective "box" around the sill steps.
Tim, I can't exactly picture what this "tool" would look like, but I understand your goal. Couldn't something be cobbled up from relatively thick (.060, maybe?) styrene?

Walt Lankenau


Re: Update - IM Santa Fe Ft-V flat car

Tim O'Connor
 

All this handling has resulted in two more repairs. Both the air hoses
and the stirrup steps did not survive my ham handed work, so they will
have to be replaced. In addition, I have replaced the wheels with 0.088
tread wheels from Branchline and the #5 clones with Kadee #58 couplers.
Regards
Bruce Smith

Bruce, I need a tool item as follows: a device that screws into
the truck bolster (remove trucks first) and that projects outwards
creating a protective "box" around the sill steps. With one of these
devices screwed into each bolster, I could work on virtually any
freight car -- painting, details, repairs, decaling -- without any
danger to the delicate sill steps, brake hoses, cut levers etc.

I have such an item for painting -- a metal jig with two metal
"handles" that screw into the car and into the jig, so the car can
be painted easily without having to touch the car body. But when
working on the car one wants to handle the car, lay it down, etc
and this always involves risk to the small details.

I can't tell you how many brake hoses and sill steps I've broken and
had to replace by now. I'm sure it numbers in the dozens. Usually I have
replacement parts, but not always. I'd much rather not break them in the
first place.

Tim O'Connor


Re: ORER QUESTION

Tim O'Connor
 

Yes, that's right Brian. That's why I didn't write "ex-PRR X31c". :-)

Tim

DTI 12128
From series 12000-12399 built 1937, these are PRR X31c round roof
box cars
I think these were just clones of Pennsy round roof box cars, and never owned by PRR. The trucks under these cars were Self-Aligning Double Truss Spring Plankless with Coil-Elliptic spring package (a favorite truck of DT&I's) and not PRR's 2D-F12 coil-elliptic truck.

Tahoe Model Works's new Coil-Elliptic truck is a close match, if you don't mind the spring plank detail.

Brian Leppert
Tahoe Model Works
Carson City, NV


Re: Details West Track details

Tim O'Connor
 

Isn't there a website with photos of the various Details West track
related details over which our freight cars (manditory content) travel?
Bill Welch
Bill, there are some parts illustrations on the Walthers web site. But if
you want to find prototype photos, I would Google for it...

http://www.walthers.com/exec/search?category=&scale=H&manu=235&item=&keywords=rails+bolt+brace&words=extend&instock=Q&split=30&Submit=Search

The Central Valley site might help too

http://www.cvmw.com/cvtswitch/index.htm

Tim O'Connor


Re: ORER QUESTION

brianleppert@att.net <b.leppert@...>
 

--- In STMFC@..., Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:



DTI 12128
From series 12000-12399 built 1937, these are PRR X31c round roof
box cars
I think these were just clones of Pennsy round roof box cars, and never owned by PRR. The trucks under these cars were Self-Aligning Double Truss Spring Plankless with Coil-Elliptic spring package (a favorite truck of DT&I's) and not PRR's 2D-F12 coil-elliptic truck.

Tahoe Model Works's new Coil-Elliptic truck is a close match, if you don't mind the spring plank detail.

Brian Leppert
Tahoe Model Works
Carson City, NV


Re: WIF West India Fruit decals question

Tim O'Connor
 

Thanks Al, I'd missed that.

At 9/5/2009 08:09 PM Saturday, you wrote:
The photo of WIF 106, recently discussed, has this scheme.

Al Brown, Melbourne, Fla.


--- In STMFC@..., Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:

What WIF cars were decorated like these Champ decals? I have
only seen photos of the Florida-Havana Car Ferries lettering.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280391409327

Tim O'Connor


more free stuff

Al and Patricia Westerfield <westerfield@...>
 

To anyone who will pay the shipping, a large pad of dispatcher's sheets, 24"x14.5", and a large quantity of blank car cars and waybills for the early McClelland method. - Al Westerfield


Re: free stuff

Al and Patricia Westerfield <westerfield@...>
 

Pat - It's 16 lbs. by UPS, cost depending on where you live. - Al

----- Original Message -----
From: Pat Duffin
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 9:08 AM
Subject: RE: [STMFC] free stuff


I will pay shipping, how much
-----Original Message-----
From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...]On Behalf Of Al
and Patricia Westerfield
Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 9:07 AM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] free stuff

For anyone who will pay the shipping I am giving away 73 issues of The
National Railway Historical Society Bulletin, years 1954-79. - Al
Westerfield


Re: free stuff

Pat M Duffin
 

I will pay shipping, how much

-----Original Message-----
From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...]On Behalf Of Al
and Patricia Westerfield
Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 9:07 AM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] free stuff


For anyone who will pay the shipping I am giving away 73 issues of The
National Railway Historical Society Bulletin, years 1954-79. - Al
Westerfield


free stuff

Al and Patricia Westerfield <westerfield@...>
 

For anyone who will pay the shipping I am giving away 73 issues of The National Railway Historical Society Bulletin, years 1954-79. - Al Westerfield


Re: Details West Track details

tmolsen@...
 

Hi Bill,

Here is the link to the Details West Home Page:

http://www.detailswest.com/

The link to the Track detail page:

http://www.detailswest.com/switch_frog_detail_page.htm


And the link to the Catalog page:

http://www.detailswest.com/catalog%20page.htm

Now you can take your pick! Hope this helps!

Best regards in your new position and new home. Great to hear from you!

Tom Olsen
7 Boundary Road, West Branch
Newark, Delaware, 19711-7479
(302) 738-4292 (Home)
(302) 740-2897 (Cell)
tmolsen@...


Details West Track details

Bill Welch
 

Isn't there a website with photos of the various Details West track related details over which our freight cars (manditory content) travel?

Bill Welch


Union starch tank cars

Brian Carlson <brian@...>
 

This years, Naperville offering include more GATC Type 30 kits for food
commodities. One kit offered is for a Union starch & Refining Co tank car.
These were quite colorful, and I have a color slide of one in the mid
1950's. I was wondering if anyone has more information on this company,
service areas, how wide and far they may have traveled, what industries they
served?

Brian J. Carlson, P.E.
Cheektowaga NY


Re: Update - IM Santa Fe Ft-V flat car

Brian Carlson <brian@...>
 

I agree with you Bruce, My B&O car is complete, much in the same way you did
it, except I managed to not break any stirrups or the air hoses. I did sand
two fingernails though. Maybe the next runs will compensate for the tape
thickness. I used Barge cement to reattach my deck. I have had too many
issues with ACC popping due to different shrinkage and expansion rates.

Brian J. Carlson, P.E.
Cheektowaga NY

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From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of
smithbf36832
Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2009 11:13 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] Update - IM Santa Fe Ft-V flat car

--- In STMFC@..., "Mike Brock" <brockm@...> wrote:
So...let's move on to more useful
subjects...like problems with the model. Richard says the the laser cut
wood
floor is too thick. How much too thick? Can it be lowered by sanding?


Update - IM Santa Fe Ft-V flat car

Bruce Smith
 

--- In STMFC@..., "Mike Brock" <brockm@...> wrote:
So...let's move on to more useful
subjects...like problems with the model. Richard says the the laser cut wood
floor is too thick. How much too thick? Can it be lowered by sanding?
Mike, Folks,

Having received my IM 70 ton AAR flat (ATSF class Ft-V), I set about to answer this, and in the process, discovered where IM may have strayed... at least partially.

The laser-cut wood deck on the model is held on with super-sticky double sided tape. I was able to remove the deck pieces by gentle, but persistent work with a "chisel" blade. The deck came off with the tape and often the paint on it (no worries - the paint is under the deck!). The same blade was useful in scraping the tape off of the back of the deck. Following that, I cleaned the back of the deck and the car with Goo Gone to remove the sticky crud that was left. At that point, test fitting the deck resulted in a much closer fit. I think IM forgot to include the thickness of the tape and paint in their calculations for the model! <G>

I also seized upon the opportunity to remove the little tags that were left by the laser cutter to attach the decks to the supporting frets. I also cleaned out the slots in the main deck where the bolster bumps out towards the middle of the car - these were definitely too tight on the RTR model.

Because I wanted the deck to be perfectly level with the bolster tops, I did decide to sand the back. I used some 90 grit, VERY CAREFULLY, followed by 200 grit paper to slightly thin the pieces. 20-40 light strokes was all it took. The deck is now drying on my workbench after staining with a mix of black and brown leather dye diluted in alcohol (to give the car a look of relatively fresh creosote. I plan to attach the deck with gel type ACC when it is dry.

All this handling has resulted in two more repairs. Both the air hoses and the stirrup steps did not survive my ham handed work, so they will have to be replaced. In addition, I have replaced the wheels with 0.088 tread wheels from Branchline and the #5 clones with Kadee #58 couplers.

Regards
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL


Re: WIF West India Fruit decals question

al_brown03
 

The photo of WIF 106, recently discussed, has this scheme.

Al Brown, Melbourne, Fla.

--- In STMFC@..., Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:

What WIF cars were decorated like these Champ decals? I have
only seen photos of the Florida-Havana Car Ferries lettering.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280391409327

Tim O'Connor


WIF West India Fruit decals question

Tim O'Connor
 

What WIF cars were decorated like these Champ decals? I have
only seen photos of the Florida-Havana Car Ferries lettering.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280391409327

Tim O'Connor

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