Re: GN 40' box car question
Gatwood, Elden J SAD
Thank you very much, Dave!
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From: STMFC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:STMFC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of ealabhan0 Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 7:12 PM To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com Subject: [STMFC] Re: GN 40' box car question Elden, What you get for your $5 is three sprues as shown on the CNWHS Company Store website, each with one Superior brakewheel and one handbrake mechanism consisting of the HB gear housing, chain and connecting rod with bottom clevis to connect with the bell crank at the bottom of the car end. Thus, you get a total of three complete HB sets to equip three tall cars. Regards, Dave Sieber, Reno NV --- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:STMFC%40yahoogroups.com> , "Gatwood, Elden J SAD " <elden.j.gatwood@...> wrote: Dave; Does "3 parts per package" mean 3 sprues containing a total of 3 wheels, all for $5, or one sprue for $5 that has 3 parts on it, one of which is a brake wheel? Thanks for this heads-up, also! Elden Gatwood -----Original Message-----Sugerman, Ft. Worth, TX
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Re: CP model to fit a paint scheme
rockroll50401 <cepropst@...>
You guys have been helpful.
The minibox has been for done months, I used the decals that came with the kit. He's just getting around to readying it for his layout. What would be the number series' for standard AAR 37 of modified 37 cars? Thanks, Clark Propst
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Re: CP model to fit a paint scheme
Doug Rhodes
Clark, you can use the "stepped block" decals your friend likes on a "minibox" since these cars were
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were seen with this scheme (as they were with the later "script" scheme.) The cars had a very long service life, and as result were repainted at various times with whatever lettering scheme was current at the time. The "Spans the World" scheme was actually only used for a few short years in the late 1940's, while the "stepped block" scheme was current from the late 1940s to the early 1960s. There is a photo of a "minibox" still in "stepped block" in 1983 (albeit in work service by that time) in the Morning Sun Canadian Pacific Colour Guide. As others have pointed out, pretty much any steel boxcar introduced to CPR service up to about 1961 could realistically have these decals applied, so depending on the modeled era there would be a wide variety of options to choose from. Hope this helps Doug Rhodes .
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From: steve l To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2009 9:06 PM Subject: [STMFC] Re: CP model to fit a paint scheme The former HO scale CRMPG ends (NSC and Canadian Dreadnaught versions) are now made by Sylvan Scale Models-- http://www.isp.ca/sylvan/detail.htm Steve Lucas. --- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Brian Carlson" <brian@...> wrote: > > Clark: many CP cars were painted in this scheme, including 10 ' IH 1937 AAR > cars and later 10'6 AAR cars. The 1937 kits can be kitbashed from IM or RC > 1937 bodies and CRMPG roofs and ends. Jim Little had an article in RMC March > 1995 with a whole lot more details than my short email provided. > > Brian J. Carlson, P.E. > Cheektowaga NY > > -----Original Message----- > From: STMFC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:STMFC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of > Clark Propst > Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2009 11:46 PM > To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [STMFC] CP model to fit a paint scheme > > My last question about some old tank cars must have been a tough one, so > I'll make this one easier. > > I built a F&C CP minibox for a friend. He thought he'd given me a set of > Allen Ferguson's great CP 'stepped' lettering decals, which he hadn't. Now, > he'd like me to do a car with those decals. > I'd like to know what box car models would be appropriate for those decals. > Thanks, > Clark Propst > Mason City Iowa > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.113/2399 - Release Date: 09/27/09 17:52:00
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Re: CP model to fit a paint scheme
steve l <stevelucas3@...>
The former HO scale CRMPG ends (NSC and Canadian Dreadnaught versions) are now made by Sylvan Scale Models--
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http://www.isp.ca/sylvan/detail.htm Steve Lucas.
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Re: CP model to fit a paint scheme
Brian Carlson <brian@...>
Clark: many CP cars were painted in this scheme, including 10 ' IH 1937 AAR
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cars and later 10'6 AAR cars. The 1937 kits can be kitbashed from IM or RC 1937 bodies and CRMPG roofs and ends. Jim Little had an article in RMC March 1995 with a whole lot more details than my short email provided. Brian J. Carlson, P.E. Cheektowaga NY
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From: STMFC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:STMFC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Clark Propst Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2009 11:46 PM To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com Subject: [STMFC] CP model to fit a paint scheme My last question about some old tank cars must have been a tough one, so I'll make this one easier. I built a F&C CP minibox for a friend. He thought he'd given me a set of Allen Ferguson's great CP 'stepped' lettering decals, which he hadn't. Now, he'd like me to do a car with those decals. I'd like to know what box car models would be appropriate for those decals. Thanks, Clark Propst Mason City Iowa ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links
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CP model to fit a paint scheme
Clark Propst <cepropst@...>
My last question about some old tank cars must have been a tough one, so I'll make this one easier.
I built a F&C CP minibox for a friend. He thought he'd given me a set of Allen Ferguson's great CP 'stepped' lettering decals, which he hadn't. Now, he'd like me to do a car with those decals. I'd like to know what box car models would be appropriate for those decals. Thanks, Clark Propst Mason City Iowa
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Re: More Reefer help
roblmclear <rob.mclear2@...>
Thanks Scott
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To all I have the information I was looking for thanks to all that replied on the list or off list. The knowledge in the group is formidable and available what more can a bloke want!! Thanks Rob.
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Re: More Reefer help
Scott Pitzer
================================= The yellow-sided cars had box car red roofs. Scott Pitzer
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Re: More Reefer help
John Riddell <jriddell@...>
Hi Rob,
There is an excellent colour photo in book "Classic Freight Cars Volume 3" that provides a down-on view of a yard full of bright red Swift reefers. All the wood roofs are weathered. The original wood roof colour may have been bright red but after some use appears to be more like box car red, with a gray cast. Hope that helps. I hope the sand storm dust didn't get on your fine models. John Riddell
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Re: Ted Culotta/Larry Jackman MIA
pullmanboss <tgmadden@...>
Schuyler Larrabee wrote:
This is what Larry wrote in November last year: "Hi Fellow list buddies. I writing this to let you know I will not be at Cocoa Beach this year. I am moving back to Seattle area By the end of Dec. I never really liked Florida. We came down to look after my wife's Mother. She died in Jan 2007 and my wife died in Oct 2007. I have a daughter in Seattle. She wants me to move out there. I will still be on the list but my health is going down hill and this will probably be my last plane flight.. Thank you all" I don't think Larry has posted since January. I agree with Schuyler. Larry had "been everywhere, done everything", but his posts were informative and to the point. Tom Madden
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Re: Ted Culotta/Larry Jackman MIA
Schuyler Larrabee
The Puget Sound message was one of his last. I seem to recall Seattle as a more specific
destination. I should hope he has a connection. His were some of the most enjoyable and informative posts as regards "how it really was" that have appeared on this list. SGL I believe that Larry Jackman moved to the Puget Sound area to be close E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (6.1.0.447) Database version: 6.13350 http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/
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Re: Ted Culotta/Larry Jackman MIA
Denny Anspach <danspach@...>
I believe that Larry Jackman moved to the Puget Sound area to be close to family and support. I do not know whether or not he is still internet-connected.
Denny Denny S. Anspach MD Sacramento
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Re: Sunshine L&N Boxcar kit # 85.1
StephanP <sparachuk@...>
--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "StephanP" <sparachuk@...> wrote:
Gary: Sorry to be so slow replying to your post but if you are going to try salvaging the floor casting, you will likely have to cut it in three pieces. That way you can ensure the bolsters will be in the right place. I've had floor castings too long before and I couldn't just cut them shorter. Your situation sounds familiar as well. You can't just add a foot to each. Good luck. Stephan Parachuk Toronto Gary: I thought maybe the letter made more sense without the errors. Stephan Parachuk Toronto
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Re: Sunshine L&N Boxcar kit # 85.1
StephanP <sparachuk@...>
--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "gary laakso" <vasa0vasa@...> wrote:
Gary: Sorry to be so slow replying to your post but if you are going to try salvaging the floor casting, you will likely have to cut it in three pieces. That way you can ensure the bolsters will be in the right place. I've had floor casting too long before and I couldn't just cut them shorter. Your situation sounds familiar as well. You can't just a foot to each. Good luck. Stephan Parachuk Toronto
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Re: Sunshine ART ktis still available?
Rich C
Jerry, They are still available. My list is dated July 2009.
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--- On Thu, 9/24/09, Don Worthy <don_worthy@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Don Worthy <don_worthy@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [STMFC] Sunshine ART ktis still available? To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, September 24, 2009, 10:16 AM I have a 46.9 "steel" and a 14.1 wood side kit. Both are ART reefers. Sorry I don't have the numbers that you're looking for. Don Worthy --- On Tue, 9/22/09, asychis@aol. com <asychis@aol. com> wrote: From: asychis@aol. com <asychis@aol. com> Subject: [STMFC] Sunshine ART ktis still available? To: STMFC@yahoogroups. com Date: Tuesday, September 22, 2009, 1:07 PM Hi, I was wondering if any list members have a recent Sunshine list and know if kits 46.10-46.12 are still available? Price? I could write Sunshine, but that will take three months or more for an answer. Thanks, Jerry Michels [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: 1900 Stuyvesant Docks Yard Photo - New Orleans
Schuyler Larrabee
I wrote:
That's been my impression. Geez, I was a little spaced out this afternoon (up late last night) whenTony, the first car on the third track from the left was once aI'm no expert on LaBelle, but every kit of theirs that I've I wrote that. Obviously, I meant it was the first time I'd seen a photo of the PROTOTYPE! SGL E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (6.1.0.447) Database version: 6.13350 http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/
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Re: 1900 Stuyvesant Docks Yard Photo - New Orleans
Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
Tony, the first car on the third track from the left was once a LaBelle Woodworking kit. I built one when I was about 15, and it's the first time I've seen a photo of the model. Still have it, and it's held up well all these years. Nice to see if it had a real prototype and that it's pretty close.I'm no expert on LaBelle, but every kit of theirs that I've looked into was authentic. Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA 2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com (510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@signaturepress.com Publishers of books on railroad history
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Re: 1900 Stuyvesant Docks Yard Photo - New Orleans
Schuyler Larrabee
Tony, the first car on the third track from the left was once a LaBelle Woodworking kit. I built
one when I was about 15, and it's the first time I've seen a photo of the model. Still have it, and it's held up well all these years. Nice to see if it had a real prototype and that it's pretty close. SGL I just had to cross post this from the LRMRG list. It is a great photo of an IC steam switcherwith lots of neat freight cars in the background. Along with lots of ICRR cars, I see the end of a GH&SA car as well. Thanksto Tony Howe for posting. E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (6.1.0.447) Database version: 6.13350 http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/
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Re: Commonwealth steel combined end frame and body bolster castings
Robert kirkham
Thanks Dennis, but while the Royalite car drawings do offer some help, they also differ quite a bit from the CPR cars I'm modelling. The CPR cars had a single cast part that served as bolster and saddle for the tank, not separate pieces. Also, the end sills have a comparatively massive cast in place draft gear box. I can go a far distance working from photos, but would like to see something more detailed if possible.
Rob Kirkham -------------------------------------------------- From: "soolinehistory" <destorzek@mchsi.com> Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 8:35 AM To: <STMFC@yahoogroups.com> Subject: [STMFC] Re: Commonwealth steel combined end frame and body bolster castings --- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Rob Kirkham" <rdkirkham@...> wrote:Rob,
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Re: Commonwealth steel combined end frame and body bolster castings
Robert kirkham
I thought I'd try to do a little more research on this subject by searching Google books. There one finds this phrase in Railway Age, September 3, 1927, p.450. Unfortunately Google only shows the header of the page and not the comment in which the phrase is used citing copyright issues, so it is difficult to guage its usefulness.
According to the Google search, the phrase is repeated in a 1930 volume of Railway Age - but Google won't even let me see the header to pick up a month or page number. There is another mystifying reference to 1925 Railway Age, but here Google won't even summarise the content stating it is "restricted". Bizarre! Anyway, since 1923 is the date the car I'm modelling was built, I'd like to have a look at these references - whether they turn out to be a dead end or not.... Since the local libraries collection of Railway Age only goes back to 1929, I'm wondering if anyone knows an effective way to follow these leads from my home here in Vancouver. Rob Kirkham
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