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Re: Friends of the Freight Car Shirts

brianehni <behni@...>
 

AFAIK, there is a difference between golf and polo shirts. True golf shirts have pockets (for score card and pencil). Polos do not. Always burns me when I see "golf shirts" advertised that are sans pockets.

Brian Ehni

--- In STMFC@..., Anthony Thompson <thompson@...> wrote:

Tim O'Connor wrote:
As far as I know, FFC T-shirts were Tony's idea . . .
True as far as it goes, Tim, but I'd point out that they were
NEVER T-shirts. All have been polo shirts (or as some say, golf
shirts), short sleeves with pockets.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@...
Publishers of books on railroad history


Re: Friends of the Freight Car Shirts

Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
 

Tim O'Connor wrote:
As far as I know, FFC T-shirts were Tony's idea . . .
True as far as it goes, Tim, but I'd point out that they were NEVER T-shirts. All have been polo shirts (or as some say, golf shirts), short sleeves with pockets.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@...
Publishers of books on railroad history


Re: Conductors Train Book, Fitz, Sept - Oct, 1938

Richard Hendrickson
 

On Oct 12, 2009, at 1:23 AM, laramielarry wrote:

--- In STMFC@..., Rod Miller <rod@...> wrote:

Is there any other information about the CDLX cars, e.g.,
car type, car number?
Hi Rod

All of the CDLX cars were of type "T" (tank), and all were
westbound empties with destination "SP". They were on four
separate trains with dates 10/9/1938, 10/14/1938, 10/17/1938 (two
cars, together), and 10/21/1938. In date order, the car numbers
were 844, 181, 887, 123, and 846.
According to the 10/38 ORER:
CDLX 123 was an 8,000 gal. ARA III in the 116-126 series.
CDLX 181 was an 8,000 gal. ICC-103 in the 178-200 series, built by
AC&F to the Type 27 design in 1930.
CDLX 844, 846, and 887 were 8,000 gal. insulated ARA IV in the
825-896 series.

California Despatch Line was in the business of shipping bulk wine
even before prohibition, and continued to do so after prohibition
ended in 1933. However, most of the insulated glass-lined (and
mostly but not entirely multiple compartment) cars designed
specifically for this service were delivered in 1940 and later. Most
of the CDLX insulated cars on the roster in the 1930s were in asphalt
service, and it is likely that the cars in the 825-896 series were
used for asphalt or other petroleum product loading.

Richard Hendrickson


Re: Friends of the Freight Car Shirts

brianehni <behni@...>
 

While not an actual member of the FFC, I must be one based on what I've seen here; I have upwards of 75 Sunshine kits (most still in kit form like everyone else), and want more, but funding is low at the moment.

Since I cannot make this meet in Naperville (keeping my record spotless), I will have to attend in spirit only.

Brian Ehni

--- In STMFC@..., Richard Hendrickson <rhendrickson@...> wrote:

On Oct 12, 2009, at 12:30 PM, Tim O'Connor wrote:

As far as I know, FFC T-shirts were Tony's idea and he made them and
sold them to us. Anyone who goes to Naperville, buys resin kits and
builds them, and loves railroad freight cars, is a member of the FFC!
I don't know of any other qualifications needed. :-)
Tim is quite right. The FFC had its beginnings at a back yard BBQ at
Tony Thompson's home during the 1990 Pittsburgh NMRA convention. We
all got shirts at that event, and other shirts of different colors
were produced at intervals in the 1990s, but there were no dues,
officers, or organizational paraphernalia of any kind (intentionally
in contrast to all the NMRA rigmarole). At a number of subsequent
events, including some early Naperville seminars, there were no-host
FFC dinnners, but those became increasingly large and unwieldy and
came to a halt after one occasion when many who said they were coming
to dinner didn't and the FFC planners ended up with a big bill for a
restaurant minimum which wasn't met (and which Al Hoffman generously
covered). Today, FFC remains alive in concept, but has no more
organizational substance than it ever had. However, those who belong
to FFC in spirit (and you all know who you are) seem like an
appropriate group to present a plaque of appreciation to the Loftons
for their sponsorship of 16 annual Naperville prototype modelers'
seminars, so that's what's afoot and why all who have FFC shirts are
being asked to bring them to Naperville this year.

Richard Hendrickson



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Re: Friends of the Freight Car Shirts

Richard Hendrickson
 

On Oct 12, 2009, at 12:30 PM, Tim O'Connor wrote:

As far as I know, FFC T-shirts were Tony's idea and he made them and
sold them to us. Anyone who goes to Naperville, buys resin kits and
builds them, and loves railroad freight cars, is a member of the FFC!
I don't know of any other qualifications needed. :-)
Tim is quite right. The FFC had its beginnings at a back yard BBQ at
Tony Thompson's home during the 1990 Pittsburgh NMRA convention. We
all got shirts at that event, and other shirts of different colors
were produced at intervals in the 1990s, but there were no dues,
officers, or organizational paraphernalia of any kind (intentionally
in contrast to all the NMRA rigmarole). At a number of subsequent
events, including some early Naperville seminars, there were no-host
FFC dinnners, but those became increasingly large and unwieldy and
came to a halt after one occasion when many who said they were coming
to dinner didn't and the FFC planners ended up with a big bill for a
restaurant minimum which wasn't met (and which Al Hoffman generously
covered). Today, FFC remains alive in concept, but has no more
organizational substance than it ever had. However, those who belong
to FFC in spirit (and you all know who you are) seem like an
appropriate group to present a plaque of appreciation to the Loftons
for their sponsorship of 16 annual Naperville prototype modelers'
seminars, so that's what's afoot and why all who have FFC shirts are
being asked to bring them to Naperville this year.

Richard Hendrickson


Re: Duluth 1905

Tim O'Connor
 

Look at the loading dock on the side of the building
behind the reefers -- have you ever seen anything like
that? It slopes down to the ground, radially, and appears
to be made from wood planks. Bizarre!

George Sellios should have modeled 1895-1905. It appears to
be exactly right for his structures.

Tim O'Connor

At 10/3/2009 05:24 PM Saturday, you wrote:
Take a look at that fleet of Armour reefers, Courtesy of Northern Pacific list. Is that a young Mike Brock playing in the yard? Bill Welsh, which Fruit Growers class did these Armour reefers become?


gary laakso
south of Mike Brock
vasa0vasa@...




Here is a link to a fabulous shot of Duluth in 1905, with lots of NP
boxcars (including a 36-ft with the steel fishbelly sideframe), and a
variety of other cars, including a VERY swaybacked gondola!

http://www.shorpy.com/node/6920?size=_original

Enjoy!

Chuck Soule


Re: Sunshine errata list

Tim O'Connor
 

Yes they do look sweet... better get in line early, I think those
will go fast!

Is anyone else as excited for Naperville as I am? The new NYC rebuilds look sweet!
Sincerely,
Bob Heninger
Iowa City, Iowa


Metal Roof Walks

Bob McCarthy
 

Howdy!
 
      We are aware that those of you modeling in HO on this list seem to have plenty of etched metal roof walks from which to choose.
 
      However, those of us in Scale S are not so fortunate.

      Therefore, we at THE SUPPLY CAR, LLC need this list's members input for sources that would assist in creating the CAD to have etchings made for Scale S.
 
Thanks,
 
Bob McCarthy
 
Modeling the Mighty Central of Georgia in Scale S





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Re: Friends of the Freight Car Shirts

Tim O'Connor
 

Fred

As far as I know, FFC T-shirts were Tony's idea and he made them and
sold them to us. Anyone who goes to Naperville, buys resin kits and
builds them, and loves railroad freight cars, is a member of the FFC!
I don't know of any other qualifications needed. :-)

Tim O'Connor

How hard would it be to revive the FFC group? Anyone
willing to give it a try?
Fred, it's not dead, just sleeping <g>.

Tony Thompson


Re: Friends of the Freight Car Shirts

Paul Lyons
 

In a coma is probably closer to the fact.



Paul Lyons

-----Original Message-----
From: Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Mon, Oct 12, 2009 11:14 am
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Fred Freitas wrote:
How hard would it be to revive the FFC group? Anyone
willing to give it a try?
Fred, it's not dead, just sleeping <g>.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@...
Publishers of books on railroad history


Re: Charleston and Western Carolina Combination Car article/Drawings

golden1014
 

Mr. K,

I have one photo of an ACL car I can send you offline (contact me at Golden1014@...). C&WC had four of these cars, used primarily for branchline mixed-train service. They all went to ACL in the 1950s.

John Golden
Bloomington, IN

--- In STMFC@..., "Riley K" <riley050748@...> wrote:

Does anyone recall seeing such an article about the odd C&WC "caboose car", rebuilt from an old passenger combine, in any of the railroad modeling magazines? I think there was one but I could be wrong. Any help is appreciated.


Re: Friends of the Freight Car Shirts

Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
 

Fred Freitas wrote:
How hard would it be to revive the FFC group? Anyone willing to give it a try?
Fred, it's not dead, just sleeping <g>.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@...
Publishers of books on railroad history


Re: Friends of the Freight Car Shirts

Frederick Freitas <prrinvt@...>
 

Richard,
 
            How hard would it be to revive the FFC group?  Anyone willing to give it a try?
 
Fred Freitas

--- On Sun, 10/11/09, Schuyler Larrabee <schuyler.larrabee@...> wrote:


From: Schuyler Larrabee <schuyler.larrabee@...>
Subject: RE: [STMFC] Friends of the Freight Car Shirts
To: STMFC@...
Date: Sunday, October 11, 2009, 11:45 PM


 



The Hawaiian shirts call to me, too . . .

(Thought I'd see you this weekend, Brian?)

SGL

Some of us wish we could be in that crowd. I am also trying to get into the
cocoa beach Hawaiian shirt club.

Brian J. Carlson, P.E.

Cheektowaga NY


I wouldn't think of leaving my FFC shirts behind. Where the heck
else am I gonna wear them? :-) :-)

Tim O'Connor

At 10/10/2009 05:45 PM Saturday, you wrote:
Many subscribers to this list will be attending the Sunshine Models
Prototype Modelers' Seminar in Naperville, IL later this month. Many
of those who will be at Naperville have Friends of the Freight Car
polo shirts which they acquired years ago when the FFC was more
active than it is now. If you have a Friends of the Freight Car polo
shirt, especially a yellow-orange one with a reefer drawing on it,
make sure you bring it to Naperville. You will find out why at an
appropriate time. DO NOT tell the Loftons about this, or ask them
questions about it, as it supposed to be a surprise.

Richard Hendrickson
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Re: Charleston and Western Carolina Combination Car article/Drawings

wlhoss@...
 

Still haven't found the drawings yet but I did run across the incomplete
model I started about 5 years ago. Hasn't held up that well in a box. I
still need to design the underframe and find some trucks for it.


I'll keep looking for the article.

Bill Hoss
Lake Junction Models, LLC


Re: Conductors Train Book, Fitz, Sept - Oct, 1938

Rod Miller
 

Thank you, Larry.

Rod

laramielarry wrote:

--- In STMFC@..., Rod Miller <rod@...> wrote:
Is there any other information about the CDLX cars, e.g., car type,
car number?
Hi Rod
All of the CDLX cars were of type "T" (tank), and all were westbound
empties with destination "SP". They were on four separate trains with
dates 10/9/1938, 10/14/1938, 10/17/1938 (two cars, together), and
10/21/1938. In date order, the car numbers were 844, 181, 887, 123, and
846.
Best wishes, Larry Ostresh Laramie, Wyoming
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Re: Charleston and Western Carolina Combination Car article/Drawings

al_brown03
 

I don't know of a modelling article nor does the magazine database show anything; but there's a photo of C&WC 30 in Langley's "Charleston & Western Carolina Railway Album", p65. According to this source there were four such cars, # 30-33.

Al Brown, Melbourne, Fla.

--- In STMFC@..., "Riley K" <riley050748@...> wrote:

Does anyone recall seeing such an article about the odd C&WC "caboose car", rebuilt from an old passenger combine, in any of the railroad modeling magazines? I think there was one but I could be wrong. Any help is appreciated.


Charleston and Western Carolina Combination Car article/Drawings

Riley K <riley050748@...>
 

Does anyone recall seeing such an article about the odd C&WC "caboose car", rebuilt from an old passenger combine, in any of the railroad modeling magazines? I think there was one but I could be wrong. Any help is appreciated.


Re: Lowered tackboards on R-40-xx?

Tim O'Connor
 

I can't find any photos of -23 -24 -25 or -26 with lowered tackboards.

Tim O'Connor

Were any PFE cars from classes R-40-26 and earlier modified with lower tackboards after 1954? I've seen a fair number of photos of these cars and none of them show this for either side or end tackboards. By contrast, R-40-27 and later classes, built after the AAR change in tackboard height recommendation, are all in the low position.

It certainly seems that there was not a lowering of tackboards on existing cars, but I'd like somebody who knows to confirm.

Ron Merrick


Re: Charleston and Western Carolina Combination Car article/Drawi...

wlhoss@...
 

There is a short article, in Model Railroader I think, but I couldn't find
it in the database either. I have a printout with the model I started,
but it's boxed up on a shelf. I'll look for it in a bit.

Bill Hoss

In a message dated 10/12/2009 8:46:41 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
abrown@... writes:

I don't know of a modelling article nor does the magazine database show
anything; but there's a photo of C&WC 30 in Langley's "Charleston & Western
Carolina Railway Album", p65. According to this source there were four such
cars, # 30-33.

Al Brown, Melbourne, Fla.


Re: Conductors Train Book, Fitz, Sept - Oct, 1938

Wendye Ware
 

--- In STMFC@..., Rod Miller <rod@...> wrote:

Is there any other information about the CDLX cars, e.g.,
car type, car number?
Hi Rod

All of the CDLX cars were of type "T" (tank), and all were westbound empties with destination "SP". They were on four separate trains with dates 10/9/1938, 10/14/1938, 10/17/1938 (two cars, together), and 10/21/1938. In date order, the car numbers were 844, 181, 887, 123, and 846.

Best wishes,
Larry Ostresh
Laramie, Wyoming