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Re: Tangent G-70-12 for other classes
WILLIAM PARDIE
There has been quite a discussion on the similarities between the
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G-70-12 and the G-70-8 gondolas for the Southern Pacific. Would someone be kind enough tolist the differences between the G-70-12 and the G-70-9 gondolas. They were both built in 1953. Thanks in advance. Bill Pardie
On Nov 2, 2009, at 8:50 AM, Anthony Thompson wrote:
Ed Hawkins wrote:The bodies of the cars were identical. The G-70-8 cars built in 1951Ed is correct, as photos in my book show. The other, very
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Re: Frank Peacock
Jon Miller <atsf@...>
Clark,
I tried to send you private email but it's returned this sentence (with other data of course); Your access to this mail system has been rejected due to the sending MTA's poor reputation. If you believe that this failure is in error, please contact the intended recipient via alternate means. Do you have any other email address? Jon Miller AT&SF For me time has stopped in 1941 Digitrax, Chief/Zephyr systems, JMRI user NMRA Life member #2623 Member SFRH&MS
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PSC (#32110) stanchions
Jim & Lisa Hayes <jimandlisa97225@...>
Denny, if you'd like to organize a group order, I'll commit to 3 packages.
Jim Hayes Portland Oregon www.sunshinekits.com
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Re: Gondola loads
Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
Brian Carlson wrote:
Yes, but instead of toilet paper, I've used tissues paper, paint does make it rigid.Kleenex works for me--the key in my opinion is to avoid the "vacuum-packed," extremely rigid look, such as on the Chooch HO loads. Even a snug tarp does NOT, repeat NOT look anything like a Chooch load. Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA 2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com (510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@signaturepress.com Publishers of books on railroad history
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Masochism: The Building of a Sunshine Standard Brands Vinegar Ta
Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
Denny Anspach wrote:
I had presumed that I had the stanchions in inventory (left over from a previous project), but I did not- nor do any of the larger hobby shops from which I have made inquiry. When I talked to PSC directly, they mentioned that these stanchions have become a very popular item, which I would chalk up to the current high hobby interest in tank cars. Caboose Hobbies told me the same thing.Maybe you should do what I did--buy a bulk order of the PSC stanchions and divide the order with friends. In fact I could conceivably be partly responsible for the "popularity" <g> -- along with certain kit manufacturers. Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA 2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com (510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@signaturepress.com Publishers of books on railroad history
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Re: M53 instructions
Richard Hendrickson
On Nov 5, 2009, at 1:18 PM, Denis F. Blake wrote:
... if you contact me I will be glad to see that the instructions getPlease. Richard Hendrickson
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Re: Mini-kits WAS: Looking for a Sunshine Mini-kit
Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
Paul Lyons wrote:
Elden, you obviously haven't bought any new resin kits lately! $40 is probably getting closer to the norm, with many reaching close to $50.The new WrightTRAK SP caboose is $59.95 but does come with trucks. Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA 2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com (510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@signaturepress.com Publishers of books on railroad history
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Re: Masochism: The Building of a Sunshine Standard Brands Vinegar Ta
Denny Anspach <danspach@...>
Ned Carey inquires-
>> I am also using PSC's 90º >>pipe elbows. Denny, I am curious what you are going to use them for, the handrailYes. I have not done exactly this before, but I have always thought that this (handrail pipe elbows at corners) is a pretty obvious but overlooked detail on tank cars that also just happens to be right in full view. I have these elbows remaining from a previous brass locomotive project, so can try it out. Sunshine actually includes cast resin elbows in the kit just for this purpose, but they are pretty oversized. I may be coming too picky. Ned Carey Denny S. Anspach MD Sacramento
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Re: M53 instructions
seaboard_1966
Guys
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Gary's wife is working right now, at 635PM, to get the instructions on the website. She does not know if she is going to be able to post the pdfs there or not. Push comes to pull she will get the doc up there and the photo's as well. She is also going to attempt to email the instructions and what not to me so that I can send them to folks that are without. If none of this works out we will simply burn new mini CD's and send them to all that are having problems. As John stated, we are on a learning curve, bump, whatever on this. Next time we will get it right. And yes John, part of the problem was indeed rushing to get stuff taken care of in the hotel room the night the show started. Not trying to make excuses here, just trying to let you folks know what happened and what is happening now.... WE WILL MAKE IT RIGHT.... Denis Blake WrightTRAK Railroad Models, LLC
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Re: Train Fest
Charlie Vlk
Jim-
There are a number of small kit manufacturers at TrainFest and, while the Great Unwashed do attend, it is an important event for diehard Model Railroaders. While it doesn't have the exclusive focus of people that already do resin kits that the prototype modeler events do, it is not focused on beginners by any means..... and since many of those guys already have all the resin kits it might be advantageous to get a table. There are displays by serious modelers, and increasingly has supplanted the old RICHTA / iHobby "International" show as an important show for Model Railroad Manufacturers. It is on the order of the Springfield, MA show (and I've been told the Oklahoma City one as well although I've never been to that one to compare myself). Charlie Vlk Railroad Model Resources My hunch is that Milwaukee's Train Fest is targeted toward the general public with very little to attract modelers interested in resin kits. At least that's what I've heard since last year. Some year, I'll be at Naperville too but not until I've expanded my HO offerings since that is the main interest. Jim King
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Re: M53 instructions
John Wark
Denis,
Can we get a clarification as to what will be posted to the website? Will everything that was on the CD, i.e. instructions, heralds, pictures, etc. be available to download from the website? If so, that takes care of my issues. I applaud you for trying an alternative to paper for instructions, diagrams, etc. I personally prefer something digital that I can zoom, print, etc. as I need. Appreciate your fast response and taking ownership for the problem. I can't speak for everyone else, but a fast fix to a problem is all we can ask for when things inevitably go bump in the night. There's nothing you can count on more than something going wrong when you try something new, especially when hurrying to have a new kit available for Naperville. John Wark On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 3:18 PM, Denis F. Blake <dblake7@columbus.rr.com>wrote:
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Re: Looking for a Sunshine Mini-kit
mopacfirst
You're right, they were there and I picked up a couple of them. I've since found I can get two cars out of one (hint: one is not a Wabash car) so I might have one surplus. Contact me offlist.
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Ron Merrick
--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Brian Carlson <prrk41361@...> wrote:
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Re: Masochism: The Building of a Sunshine Standard Brands Vinegar Ta
Ned Carey <nedspam@...>
I am also using PSC's 90�pipe elbows. Denny, I am curious what you are going to use them for, the handrail around the tank? Ned Carey
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Re: Gondola loads
CJ Riley
I have done this, myself using both TP and tissue paper. May I suggest various odd shaped blocks of any material. Things like empty disposable razor cartridges or similar material can be draped easily with the paper and provide a defined but unidentifiable shape.
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CJ Riley
--- On Thu, 11/5/09, Clark Propst <cepropst@netconx.net> wrote:
From: Clark Propst <cepropst@netconx.net> Subject: [STMFC] Gondola loads To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, November 5, 2009, 1:35 PM I've been thinking of a load I can put in my new Tangent gon. one that would terminate on my layout. I have Central Valley through truss bridge members I can use. But, I'd like to try a covered load. I was thinking of a styrene base (so the car can be emptied) with several "tent poles" for lack of a better term glued upright. I would cover these with a single ply of toilet tissue. Then paint a proper color hoping the paint will make the tissue more rigid. Anyone ever try this? Clark Propst Mason City Iowa [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: Gondola loads
Yes, but instead of toilet paper, I've used tissues paper, paint does make
it rigid. Brian J. Carlson, P.E. Cheektowaga NY From: STMFC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:STMFC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Clark Propst Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 4:36 PM To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com Subject: [STMFC] Gondola loads I've been thinking of a load I can put in my new Tangent gon. one that would terminate on my layout. I have Central Valley through truss bridge members I can use. But, I'd like to try a covered load. I was thinking of a styrene base (so the car can be emptied) with several "tent poles" for lack of a better term glued upright. I would cover these with a single ply of toilet tissue. Then paint a proper color hoping the paint will make the tissue more rigid. Anyone ever try this? Clark Propst Mason City Iowa
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Re: Masochism: The Building of a Sunshine Standard Brands Vinegar Ta
Denny Anspach <danspach@...>
"pierreoliver2003" pierre.oliver@sympatico.ca pierreoliver2003
Thu Nov 5, 2009 6:35 am (PST) Pierre Oliver writes- I've built 3 [vinegar car kits] to date.... Now, there might be someone's definition of true masochism! As you've yet to install the handrail I would suggest that you lookPierre, that is exactly my plan. The PSC (#32110) stanchions are pretty precise, enough IMHO to overcome the fact that they are a totally different article than those cast resin stanchions in the kit that supposedly replicate the prototype. I am also using PSC's 90º pipe elbows. I had presumed that I had the stanchions in inventory (left over from a previous project), but I did not- nor do any of the larger hobby shops from which I have made inquiry. When I talked to PSC directly, they mentioned that these stanchions have become a very popular item, which I would chalk up to the current high hobby interest in tank cars. Caboose Hobbies told me the same thing. These small PSC items become pretty pricey when one factors in PSC's $30 minimum mail order charge (shipping still extra!). Denny Denny S. Anspach MD Sacramento [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: Naperville Proto Modelers Seminar photos
Eric Hansmann
Thanks Larry!
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Eric Eric Hansmann Chagrin Falls, Ohio Starting over in a new house: http://designbuildop.hansmanns.org/
--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Larry Kline <lndkline@...> wrote:
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Re: Rails Unlimited ACL K-7 41'6" Lowside Gondola
golden1014
Hi Jace,
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Contact me offline at Golden1014@yahoo. com when you're ready. I should have what you're looking for. John Golden Bloomington, IN
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Re: Modeling LCL
Jack Burgess
Clark...
On the Yosemite Valley Railroad, the head-end brakeman unloaded LCL at each station along the line as part of the work on the Local....the car was not left for a following train to pick up unless there was so much LCL destined to a single station that unloading it would have taken too long. In that case, that car would have been loaded entirely with LCL for that station and another car loaded with LCL for all of the other stations. The Local arrived at the end of the line (El Portal) around 3:00 am and LCL for that station wasn't unloaded until the following morning. Although most of the LCL was being dropped off, there were some pickups such as empty drums being returned to a refinery. The type LCL freight received at El Portal varied. The main customers were the Yosemite Park and Curry Company (primarily food, liquor, drums of salad oil, etc.), the National Park Service/Department of Interior (cartoons of papers, office furniture, etc.), and the El Portal Market (food). The Gardiners who owned the motel in El Portal were also recipients of cartons of beer every month or so. One El Portal resident received a couple cases of dog food each month (I found this interesting since we fed our dogs table scraps even in the 1950s). Other people were receiving household furnishings, etc. One report I consulted listed the number of items for each recipient, together with the weight of the freight. On one extra busy day (1/3/43) there were 56 pieces of freight totaling 2,179 pounds delivered over the line. Jack Burgess www.yosemitevalleyrr.com
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Re: Mini-kits WAS: Looking for a Sunshine Mini-kit
Paul Lyons
Elden Gatwood said;
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Kits go for <$30, right? Elden, you obviously haven't bought any new resin kits lately! $40 is probably getting closer to the norm, with many reaching close to $50. Paul Lyons Laguna Niguel, CA
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From: Gatwood, Elden J SAD <elden.j.gatwood@usace.army.mil> To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, Nov 5, 2009 12:10 pm Subject: RE: [STMFC] Mini-kits WAS: Looking for a Sunshine Mini-kit Jim; I look forward to reading more from others.Me, too. I am sure there are many bash possibilities, if for a few castings and some decals. Most mini-kits recently have been selling for $10-$12 and yet Tricia saysSunshine makes little or no money on them. I would guess it is irrelevant how little or medium sized the kit is, it is all in the time spent assembling stuff (castings, instructions, decals), and $10 doesn't cover it. Kits go for <$30, right? How much would you be willing to pay for a mini-kit such as you suggested?Well, here's the thing. You can't charge more than $20, since someone has to buy the basic core and extras (trucks, couplers), but you want to offer it at a reasonable price, so folks will build them. And, the decals make a huge difference; one color, minimial? Two color BILLBOARD? The price could vary based on how much resin and how complex the decals, right? A mini-kit with a few small castings and no decals could be $5. One with several (3-4) large castings and two-color decals might be $20. Mated with a $12 body core kit (Branchline) they have to obtain themselves, makes the whole thing sound reasonable.... One final thing: With all the amazing little military model conversions kits on the market (resin, etched metal plus decals), and RTR pre-weathered but highly detailed and era-specific military armor models (like Dragon Armor) out there on the market, why hasn't anyone in model railroading really ever taken either of these ideas and run with it? Have you seen those little 1:72 Dragon Armor tanks? They are like little gems! Beautiful! Hmmmm. Elden Gatwood [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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