According to Ed's article in the 9/05 RMJ, ASRX 602-611 were built in 1954.
Apparently a number of the "sugar cars" were delivered without roof hatches
with later installation by the buyer.

KL

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From: Tim O'Connor

Anyone have a build date for these cars? -- there were 11 of
them, this picture is from 1966 but the car is a 1950's version
of the PS-2 2893 and the group is listed in the 1963 ORER. This
photo is from 1966 (appears to have a 1964 paint date).

http://www.first-out.com/ebay/sept/1101075.jpg

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Subject: [STMFC] Domino Sugar PS 2893



Anyone have a build date for these cars? -- there were 11 of
them, this picture is from 1966 but the car is a 1950's version
of the PS-2 2893 and the group is listed in the 1963 ORER. This
photo is from 1966 (appears to have a 1964 paint date).

http://www.first-out.com/ebay/sept/1101075.jpg <http://www.first-out.com/ebay/sept/1101075.jpg>

Tim O'Connor








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From: STMFC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:STMFC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim O'Connor
Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 6:59 PM
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Subject: [STMFC] Re: Modeling LCL




Box car LCL consolidators (freight forwarders) continued
into the 1970's and maybe later. I'm sure they're still out
there but using intermodal instead of carload.

Tim O'Connor

Were not these firms acting as freight consolidators? and did
they not complete their service by local trucking delivery?
Tony Thompson

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Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 6:56 PM
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Subject: [STMFC] Re: Masochism: The Building of a Sunshine Standard Brands Vinegar Ta




There are several types of eye bolts (wire & cast) that probably
could be "kitbashed" if needed to simulate various types of pipe
hangers that are not available.

I know some folks have griped about the size of DA eye bolts but
I actually have several different sizes from very small to rather
large -- and I think they're all DA parts. This is a big advantage
to buying from a hobby shop where you can look before you buy. :-)

Tim O'Connor

At 11/6/2009 05:34 PM Friday, you wrote:

Tim O'Connor writes-

Tichy makes tank car pipe stanchions too, although I don't know
if they are accurate for any of the Sunshine kits.

If I am not mistaken, Southern C&F uses the Tichy stanchions- which do
really look nice-, but also seem to be available only in Tichy's Tank
Car Set (formerly Gould). These Tichy stanchions are similar to that
provided with the Vinegar Tank Car kit, while the PSC stanchions have
a slightly longer mounting flange with high relief rivet detailing.

However, the wall thickness of encircling pipe holders are as
follows: 1) Sunshine Vinegar Tank: c. 2.5"; 2) Tichy c. 2.0"; and 3)
PSC 1-1/2". The rivet/bolt detailing on the PSC is superior, with the
Tichy only very slightly behind. The Sunshine stanchions are cookie
cutter plain.

I am sticking with the PSC -lovely parts.

Now (*now*)- and this is new wrinkle just noted on the photos enclosed
with this ever-challenging car kit: None of the handrail stanchions
along the sides of the car are actually mounted on the tank directly.
They are instead all bolted directly on to strategically placed rod
tighteners with plain pipe holders of stanchions that look like none
of the above! Of course, there is no note of this in the directions;
Although -with thought- such mounting makes sense, now -again, within
sight of completion, the kit builder faces yet another unexpected
demand on time, ingenuity, and the drive to replicate the prototype.

Right now, my inclination is to look into mounting the stanchions on
the bands securing the tank to the frame- certainly a common stanchion
mount location on more numerous and less exotic tank cars.

I will see what I might be able to do with parts photos. No promises.

Denny

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Group,

Does anybody have more information on the Railshops PRR H31A? They
were not at Naperville this year and I was really hoping they would
come to market with these. The samples last year were wonderful.

Eric Mumper

Were not these firms acting as freight consolidators? and did
they not complete their service by local trucking delivery?
Tony Thompson

Tim O'Connor writes-

Tichy makes tank car pipe stanchions too, although I don't know
if they are accurate for any of the Sunshine kits.

If I am not mistaken, Southern C&F uses the Tichy stanchions- which do
really look nice-, but also seem to be available only in Tichy's Tank
Car Set (formerly Gould). These Tichy stanchions are similar to that
provided with the Vinegar Tank Car kit, while the PSC stanchions have
a slightly longer mounting flange with high relief rivet detailing.

However, the wall thickness of encircling pipe holders are as
follows: 1) Sunshine Vinegar Tank: c. 2.5"; 2) Tichy c. 2.0"; and 3)
PSC 1-1/2". The rivet/bolt detailing on the PSC is superior, with the
Tichy only very slightly behind. The Sunshine stanchions are cookie
cutter plain.

I am sticking with the PSC -lovely parts.

Now (*now*)- and this is new wrinkle just noted on the photos enclosed
with this ever-challenging car kit: None of the handrail stanchions
along the sides of the car are actually mounted on the tank directly.
They are instead all bolted directly on to strategically placed rod
tighteners with plain pipe holders of stanchions that look like none
of the above! Of course, there is no note of this in the directions;
Although -with thought- such mounting makes sense, now -again, within
sight of completion, the kit builder faces yet another unexpected
demand on time, ingenuity, and the drive to replicate the prototype.

Right now, my inclination is to look into mounting the stanchions on
the bands securing the tank to the frame- certainly a common stanchion
mount location on more numerous and less exotic tank cars.

I will see what I might be able to do with parts photos. No promises.

Denny

GUYZ,
These are the kits that require prescription meds.
Viagra --------- to keep your neck straight while manipulating small
parts.
Prosac --------- to maintain a joyful attitude toward the project.
Valium ----------to relax once you put the tweezers down.
Thorazine ------to keep you quiet the rest of the night.