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Re: Centralia Car Shops

asychis@...
 

Tim, you wrote: Right, CCS is custom Intermountain tooling.

That's unclear to me. Do you mean CCS is selling cars made by
InterMountain or the other way around? InterMountain has CCS cars on its website.

Jerry Michels


Wright Trak SAL gondola kit

Clark Propst <cepropst@...>
 

I'm about finished with a Wright Trak SAL gondola kit I bought from them at Trainfest. (Hope their models sold well)

If memory serves me correctly the kit contained the body, Tichy brake sprue, weight (which was too long), trucks, and a piece of brass wire, decals, plus two sheets of instructions.

The instructions included one typed page and one page with four photocopied photos of the constructed model. The instructions mentioned an inside floor and etched parts sprue, which were not in my kit. The builder didn't recommend using the etched parts anyway?

I was able to dig up the styrene for the floor, grab irons, sill steps, cut levers, and a brake platform.

Construction time was what you'd expect from a one piece bodied gon. Drilling holes for the grabs and steps and adding the Tichy brake parts.

One item missing from the kit that makes it impossible to finish is a good photo of a completed model or prototype. I had no idea what color to paint it or where to place the decals! I was able to obtain the information from a friend.

I paid $40 for the kit.
Clark Propst
Mason City Iowa


Re: Grab Iron tool

Donald Ford <ford.donald77@...>
 

Group:
I made one of the tools from scrap and it works great.  I made one change by cut with a saw a grove in one side at each top grove helps hold the wire in place.  I also pebend with plires the wireto a ninty degree then bend the other side down.  Works good for those odd size grabs like on the ends of PRR H21 and GLa (Iam an SPF) hopper cars.
Don Ford
Kanab UT




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From: steve l <stevelucas3@yahoo.ca>
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, November 23, 2009 8:42:57 AM
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Grab Iron tool

 
Was the article not a Bobo Hundman one on scratchbuilding an ATSF stock car?

As for "Christmas" trees, Ben Stein's opinion is illuminating- -

"Next confession: I am a Jew, and every single one of my ancestors was Jewish. And it does not bother me even a little bit when people call those beautiful lit up, bejeweled trees Christmas trees. I don't feel threatened. I don't feel discriminated against. That's what they are: Christmas trees. It doesn't bother me a bit when people say, "Merry Christmas" to me. I don't think they are slighting me or getting ready to put me in a ghetto. In fact, I kind of like it. It shows that we are all brothers and sisters celebrating this happy time of year. It doesn't bother me at all that there is a manger scene on display at a key intersection near my beach house in Malibu. If people want a creche, it's just as fine with me as is the Menorah a few hundred yards away."

Steve Lucas.

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups. com, SUVCWORR@... wrote:


That article was in Mainline Modeler but I don't recall the issue and my copies are currently
in storage. The tool works very well and depending on the angle you use, it will allow you to make any wi
width grab iron in small or large increments. The shallower the angle the smaller the steps in width. You
need two pieces of styrene. The first you cut in the shape of a (politically incorrect term coming) Christmas
tree. The trunk becomes the handle. Overlay the branch area with the scribed siding styrene. Then
deepen the scribe lines with either a knife or razor saw. One pass of a saw is usually all that is needed.


Rich Orr

Sometime back one of the magazines ran an article where a piece of sheet
plastic with manufactured scribed slots (siding?) was cut in a triangular
shape with the slots running parallel to the base of the triangle. Then,
you pick the slot that matches the width that you need and lay a piece of
wire in it and simply bend it over the edges of the plastic. Bingo, a grab
iron. The taller the triangle combined with a narrow base gives you a LOT
of slots which vary in length only slightly as you go from one slot to the
next.



I built one of these for a zero cost using scraps from the plastic box and
it works great.



Hopefully my description makes sense.



Allen Cain







Re: Intermountain ATSF caboose

Andy Sperandeo <asperandeo@...>
 

Thanks Steve,

That's very useful. I'm working on four of these cars right now myself. I've already decided to use Tahoe Model Works Bettendorf Swing-Motion trucks, and LaserKit window screens, both of which look more like the real thing than the kit parts.

Andy

Andy Sperandeo
Executive Editor
Model Railroader magazine
asperandeo@mrmag.com
262-796-8776, ext. 461
FAX 262-796-1142


Re: NYC freight car lettering

Bill Darnaby
 

Tom sez...

Thanks guys for the replies. I have emailed Terry to see if he knows and if he does come up with the data I will post it so that all can share. Martin has just put out that NYC 1-1/2 door tall box car, but is very vague about when the NYC went to the Gothic Lettering for reporting marks and dimensional data. Until I find out when, I will be sticking with the kits with the Roman Lettering.
The guy who made the masters for these cars told me that the version of this car available at Naperville is good only for the Gothic lettering as these cars were rebuilt starting in 1955. Therefore, the car I purchased (kit 93.4) will be in very new paint as I model late summer/early fall of 1955. The earlier rebuilds of these cars that would have had the Roman lettering have not been released yet.

Bill Darnaby


Re: WrightTrak B&O M-53

Bruce Smith
 

Apparently not "off-list" after all... stupid Gropewise program (and
user? <G>)
-Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL

"Bruce Smith" <smithbf@auburn.edu> 11/24/09 7:50 AM >>>
"bdg1210" <Bruce_Griffin@uncg.edu> 11/24/09 12:46 AM >>>
Guys,

I know several of you must have purchased this kit at Naperville. Any
feedback? I have one person's opinion of the kit, but would like to hear
others to be fair. Thanks.

Bruce,

Off list. I can't comment directly, as I did not buy the kit, but I was
disappointed that they did not produce the earlier door style. There
seems to be some conflicting information about whether they will
eventually produce the panel door, and I'd love to see a definitive
answer in your review! Of course, there is also the strong rumor of a
plastic M-53 coming soon <VBG>.

Regards
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL


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Re: Red caboose now intermountain

Randy Hammill
 

Hi, Paul -

From what I've seen, they've released the X-29, Beet Gondola, and AAR 1937 box car in a small number of schemes so far.

There's a whole slew of models announced in their "Coming Soon" section:

http://www.imrcmodels.com/newshocomingsoon.html

As far as I know, these are all available only as RTR models.

Undec kits are still available from Red Caboose.

Randy Hammill
http://newbritainstation.com

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Paul" <pdeis@...> wrote:

Is intermountain going to be releasing any of the Red Caboose cars?


Re: WrightTrak B&O M-53

Bruce Smith
 

"bdg1210" <Bruce_Griffin@uncg.edu> 11/24/09 12:46 AM >>>
Guys,

I know several of you must have purchased this kit at Naperville. Any
feedback? I have one person's opinion of the kit, but would like to hear
others to be fair. Thanks.

Bruce,

Off list. I can't comment directly, as I did not buy the kit, but I was
disappointed that they did not produce the earlier door style. There
seems to be some conflicting information about whether they will
eventually produce the panel door, and I'd love to see a definitive
answer in your review! Of course, there is also the strong rumor of a
plastic M-53 coming soon <VBG>.

Regards
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL


Save the date for GopherRail 2010

Bob Sterner
 

GopherRail will be on February 27, 2010, on the University of Minnesota campus, Minneapolis. This is the club's biggest fund raiser of the year, and we hope to see many of you there. GopherRail will include presentations, layouts, Open Mic night, and, new this year, a photo contest. Program information will be posted as it becomes available.

http://www.tc.umn.edu/~rrclubum/gopherrail.htm

Bob Sterner
Faculty Advisor
The Railroad Club at the University of Minnesota


Centralia Car Shops

asychis@...
 

Can someone tell me if Centralia Car Shops is still an independent company
or is their line now owned by InterMountain? Thanks.

Jerry Michels


Coke questions

asychis@...
 

If one wanted to model coke, say to fill the Walthers coke containers, what
material would one use, and what color would it be? Thanks!

Jerry Michels


Re: NYC freight car lettering

tmolsen@...
 

Hi Brian and Al,

Thanks guys for the replies. I have emailed Terry to see if he knows and if he does come up with the data I will post it so that all can share. Martin has just put out that NYC 1-1/2 door tall box car, but is very vague about when the NYC went to the Gothic Lettering for reporting marks and dimensional data. Until I find out when, I will be sticking with the kits with the Roman Lettering.

The NYC is the most unrepresented railroad on Pennsy layouts due to the antipathy of the great number of unwashed SPF's whom I do not wish to associate with.

I spent 14 years on System operations as a Supervisor and then Manager of System Passenger Operations on PC and CR and I worked with a great number of people on both sides of the railroad. All of the people I worked with at all levels did their jobs in a most professional manner. Of course, there was the usual teasing that goes on in any organization, but nothing that could be construed as being serious. When most of the people found out that I was a serious modeler and historian type, they went out of their way to help me get the information that I was looking for. I learned a lot from people on both sides of the fence as one might say.

Best regards,
Tom Olsen
7 Boundary Road, West Branch
Newark, Delaware, 19711-7479
(302) 738-4292
tmolsen@udel.edu


WrightTrak B&O M-53

bdg1210 <Bruce_Griffin@...>
 

Guys,

I know several of you must have purchased this kit at Naperville. Any feedback? I have one person's opinion of the kit, but would like to hear others to be fair. Thanks.

Regards,
Bruce D. Griffin
Editor, The B&O Modeler
Summerfield, NC


Red caboose now intermountain

Paul <pdeis@...>
 

Is intermountain going to be releasing any of the Red Caboose cars?


Re: Shipping Christmas Trees

Robert kirkham
 

This article by researcher and author Ian Wilson is quite informative on the subject as well. <http://www.canadianbranchline.com/christma.htm>

I wonder how many people choose the end of December as a modelling period?

Rob Kirkham
Surrey BC
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From: "Tim O'Connor" <timboconnor@comcast.net>
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 9:11 PM
To: <STMFC@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Shipping Christmas Trees

Paul, I found this abstract of an article on a web site:


Douglas-fir Christmas trees shipped in railroad box cars from the
Pacific Northwest to Los Angeles, Calif., suffer varying degrees of
deterioration, depending on treatment before shipment, length of time
in cars, and temperatures within loads during shipment. Test shipments
were made in 1962 in a standard box car and a mechanically refrigerated
car, with recording thermometers at three levels within the loads.

Additional shipments in standard box cars were made in 1964 using crushed
ice blown in on the loads as a coolant. At Los Angeles the 1962 trees were
mounted under simulated home conditions and their useful life measured for
11 days. Needle-drop proved a poor measure of deterioration but observations
of color, dryness, and needle-drop on the 10th day showed obvious differences.

Time of cutting, previous fertilizing, along with position in packing, and
shipping temperature affected the useful life and value of trees.


Tim O'Connor



Were Christmas Trees shipped in reefers? Were insulated boxcars around in
enough numbers to be a reasonable alternative? (I model 1952) Did they,
reefer loads of Christmas trees, need to be iced, or simply kept at a
reasonably cool temp?

Did these loads make up a significant "surge" in traffic to take up much of
the unused slack in reefer fleets during November and December?

I ASSume November and December are slow months for Reefers. I know that many
reefers were pressed into express service to handle the increased mail and
express load as we got closer to Christmas, but did the shipment of trees
make a dent in this use of reefers?

Were loads of cut trees sent to a metropolitan produce market's for
distribution to retail outlets? Were cut trees a sort of "produce"?

Tons of questions but it sparked an interest. Thank you all in advance.

Paul Catapano


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Intermountain ATSF caboose

Steve SANDIFER
 

For those building the kids for these new cars, some interesting information including better instructions have be posted on
http://atsfrr.net/Reviews/HO/Freight/IMRCaboose/Index.htm
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GSI depressed center flat car

Tim O'Connor
 

Wow, I guess this demonstrates some amount of pent up desire
for these cars...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200405744090

Tim O'Connor


Re: Bieber 1947 4th quarter *04 cars

Tim O'Connor
 

Allen Rueter wrote

What's with all the Southern cars?
Sou 261004 906 10/17 2127 10/17
Sou 166104 2005 10/13 258 10/13
Sou 261604 911 12/5 2017 12/5
Sou 148704 2126 11/21 203 11/21
Sou 13804 2107 11/7 203 11/7
Sou 13804 260 11/22 2019 11/22
Sou 11804 911 12/6 2007 12/6
Sou 116904 2127 10/13 906 10/13
Sou 116904 2127 12/7 911 12/7
Allen:

11804, 13804, 261004, 261104 are 1937 AAR box cars

116904 is a 41'6" flat car

148704 is a steel frame, wood sheathed, double door box car

166104 is a 36' wood box car w/ steel center sill

That's a nice assortment of Southern freight cars!!

Tim O'Connor


Re: Bieber 1947 4th quarter *01 cars (title correction)

Tim O'Connor
 

Allen

A photo with a digital camera should work quite well, if
the page is very flat, and you can mount the camera on a
tripod and get a sharp picture.

Tim O'Connor

At 11/23/2009 11:34 PM Monday, you wrote:
Dave,
I'll have to think about how to do that, the pages are about 14x17, much bigger than
a common scanner, to thick for a drum scanner that I have access to at work.
I could try just a corner.

--
Allen Rueter
StLouis MO


Re: NYC freight car lettering

Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
 

Tim O'Connor wrote:
It's interesting that NYC continued to use lines above and below the reporting marks until around 1960 even though most railroads discontinued that practice years earlier.
The lines were never a requirement but were a recommended practice, starting back in the WW I era. The AAR discontinued that recommendation very early in 1952 and many roads soon dropped the lines from their lettering diagrams.

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2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
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