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Re: Wright Trak SAL gondola kit

jfbrewer@...
 

Clark,



I purchased this kit, as well as their NS low side gondola kit at Naperville; my kits appear to contain all the parts, even those that you are missing.  However, both contain the same sheet of basic instructions and no prototype information or finished model photographs.  I am still waiting on the decals for the NS kit as I understand Wright Trak was waiting to have then printed pending approval of their art work.  These kits aren't listed on their web site so there is no help available there.  I'm hoping once Wright Trak catches up wiith business after Naperville and Trainfest, the necessary information will be made available to us.



I made a cursory search on-line for photos of the prototypes, but couldn't find anything..



Jim Brewer

Glenwood MD

----- Original Message -----
From: "Clark Propst" <cepropst@netconx.net>
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 10:39:46 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: [STMFC] Wright Trak SAL gondola kit

 




I'm about finished with a Wright Trak SAL gondola kit I bought from them at Trainfest. (Hope their models sold well)

If memory serves me correctly the kit contained the body, Tichy brake sprue, weight (which was too long), trucks, and a piece of brass wire, decals, plus two sheets of instructions.

The instructions included one typed page and one page with four photocopied photos of the constructed model. The instructions mentioned an inside floor and etched parts sprue, which were not in my kit. The builder didn't recommend using the etched parts anyway?

I was able to dig up the styrene for the floor, grab irons, sill steps, cut levers, and a brake platform.

Construction time was what you'd expect from a one piece bodied gon. Drilling holes for the grabs and steps and adding the Tichy brake parts.

One item missing from the kit that makes it impossible to finish is a good photo of a completed model or prototype. I had no idea what color to paint it or where to place the decals! I was able to obtain the information from a friend.

I paid $40 for the kit.
Clark Propst
Mason City Iowa

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Type X tank car question

Frank Valoczy <destron@...>
 

Could anyone suggest where I might find good (as in, good for making a
model with) drawings of the Type X underframe?

Thanks.

Frank Valoczy
Vancouver, BC


Re: Stan's long stock car

Jim Hayes
 

There isn't yet but soon will be if a certain unnamed keeper of the Sunshine
website gets off his butt and gets busy. That unnamed person has photos of
all Stan's built up kits and a web page partially done.

Jim Hayes
Portland Oregon
www.sunshinekits.com

On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 8:31 AM, lnbill <fgexbill@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:



Is there a resource on-line that has an up-to-date list/description of
Stan's offerings?

Bill Welch


--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com <STMFC%40yahoogroups.com>, "Clark Propst"
<cepropst@...> wrote:

I picked up one of Stan Rydarowicz's new 50' Mathers stock cars at
Naperville. I'm about finished with assembly.

The kit is basically a P2K stock car with styrene and resin parts for the
doors and center extension of the frame.

All parts needed for assembly are included. The instructions made me
laugh because they are written just like Stan talks. He did not included
several of the assembly steps, so like most small maker kits, you're on your
own. He does provide some poor photocopies of the constructed model. I was
impressed by the thought Stan put into this model.

This is a time consuming kit. Heck, the P2K kit is time consuming alone.
There is no good photo of a completed model or prototype. The decals
included do have a drawing of the cars. A friend supplied photos of the
prototype which were quite helpful.

Next time I talk to Stan I'll recommend he amends his instructions to
make each step clearer to the builder.

The kit is priced at $35. These cars were built in the early 60s, but are
so cool I had to have one!

Stan sells an extensive line of resin supplemented kits including several
modified reefers.
Clark Propst
Mason City Iowa

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Re: Christmas Trees by Rail

Jon Miller <atsf@...>
 

I'm guessing shipping by rail was most of Dec. (maybe late Nov.) until the 25. It seems that ** trees were put up differently in the steam era than now. I remember ours went up the 24th and came down the 1st., at least in the 40s. As this list goes to 60 the purchasing time window would have changed and I suspect by 60 they weren't delivered by train anymore. Thoughts?

Jon Miller
AT&SF
For me time stopped in 1941
Digitrax, Chief/Zephyr systems, JMRI user
NMRA Life member #2623
Member SFRH&MS


Re: Christmas Trees by Rail

Ross McLeod <cdnrailmarine@...>
 

In my experience trees moved from British Columbia in standard box cars to Texas - late sixities.
 
Carriers restrict the use of high class cars for hauling material that would damage the inside of the car, therefore I would not see a railway giving a working reefer to a tree shipper. Realize there was a  test case was made in a reefer.
 
In my experience these shipments were given very high priority, traced and expedited constantly thru the approx one month period they moved.

Also of course reefers would have incur additional charges for protective service.
 
Ross McLeod Calgary

 


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Re: Stan's long stock car

Bill Welch
 

Is there a resource on-line that has an up-to-date list/description of Stan's offerings?

Bill Welch

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Clark Propst" <cepropst@...> wrote:

I picked up one of Stan Rydarowicz's new 50' Mathers stock cars at Naperville. I'm about finished with assembly.

The kit is basically a P2K stock car with styrene and resin parts for the doors and center extension of the frame.

All parts needed for assembly are included. The instructions made me laugh because they are written just like Stan talks. He did not included several of the assembly steps, so like most small maker kits, you're on your own. He does provide some poor photocopies of the constructed model. I was impressed by the thought Stan put into this model.

This is a time consuming kit. Heck, the P2K kit is time consuming alone. There is no good photo of a completed model or prototype. The decals included do have a drawing of the cars. A friend supplied photos of the prototype which were quite helpful.

Next time I talk to Stan I'll recommend he amends his instructions to make each step clearer to the builder.

The kit is priced at $35. These cars were built in the early 60s, but are so cool I had to have one!

Stan sells an extensive line of resin supplemented kits including several modified reefers.
Clark Propst
Mason City Iowa



Re: Red caboose now intermountain

Paul Deis <pdeis@...>
 

Thanks for the info. It looks like the flat cars I need are coming now I will cross my fingers for the SP Stockcars. Until I saw the list I didn't know Intermountain was also handling Tichy and Con-cor


Paul Deis
Chief Engineer, D&P Mountain Railroad
http://web.mac.com/curlyp
pdeis@att.net


Stan's long stock car

Clark Propst <cepropst@...>
 

I picked up one of Stan Rydarowicz's new 50' Mathers stock cars at Naperville. I'm about finished with assembly.

The kit is basically a P2K stock car with styrene and resin parts for the doors and center extension of the frame.

All parts needed for assembly are included. The instructions made me laugh because they are written just like Stan talks. He did not included several of the assembly steps, so like most small maker kits, you're on your own. He does provide some poor photocopies of the constructed model. I was impressed by the thought Stan put into this model.

This is a time consuming kit. Heck, the P2K kit is time consuming alone. There is no good photo of a completed model or prototype. The decals included do have a drawing of the cars. A friend supplied photos of the prototype which were quite helpful.

Next time I talk to Stan I'll recommend he amends his instructions to make each step clearer to the builder.

The kit is priced at $35. These cars were built in the early 60s, but are so cool I had to have one!

Stan sells an extensive line of resin supplemented kits including several modified reefers.
Clark Propst
Mason City Iowa


Re: Centralia Car Shops

asychis@...
 

Tim, you wrote: Right, CCS is custom Intermountain tooling.

That's unclear to me. Do you mean CCS is selling cars made by
InterMountain or the other way around? InterMountain has CCS cars on its website.

Jerry Michels


Wright Trak SAL gondola kit

Clark Propst <cepropst@...>
 

I'm about finished with a Wright Trak SAL gondola kit I bought from them at Trainfest. (Hope their models sold well)

If memory serves me correctly the kit contained the body, Tichy brake sprue, weight (which was too long), trucks, and a piece of brass wire, decals, plus two sheets of instructions.

The instructions included one typed page and one page with four photocopied photos of the constructed model. The instructions mentioned an inside floor and etched parts sprue, which were not in my kit. The builder didn't recommend using the etched parts anyway?

I was able to dig up the styrene for the floor, grab irons, sill steps, cut levers, and a brake platform.

Construction time was what you'd expect from a one piece bodied gon. Drilling holes for the grabs and steps and adding the Tichy brake parts.

One item missing from the kit that makes it impossible to finish is a good photo of a completed model or prototype. I had no idea what color to paint it or where to place the decals! I was able to obtain the information from a friend.

I paid $40 for the kit.
Clark Propst
Mason City Iowa


Re: Grab Iron tool

Donald Ford <ford.donald77@...>
 

Group:
I made one of the tools from scrap and it works great.  I made one change by cut with a saw a grove in one side at each top grove helps hold the wire in place.  I also pebend with plires the wireto a ninty degree then bend the other side down.  Works good for those odd size grabs like on the ends of PRR H21 and GLa (Iam an SPF) hopper cars.
Don Ford
Kanab UT




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From: steve l <stevelucas3@yahoo.ca>
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, November 23, 2009 8:42:57 AM
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Grab Iron tool

 
Was the article not a Bobo Hundman one on scratchbuilding an ATSF stock car?

As for "Christmas" trees, Ben Stein's opinion is illuminating- -

"Next confession: I am a Jew, and every single one of my ancestors was Jewish. And it does not bother me even a little bit when people call those beautiful lit up, bejeweled trees Christmas trees. I don't feel threatened. I don't feel discriminated against. That's what they are: Christmas trees. It doesn't bother me a bit when people say, "Merry Christmas" to me. I don't think they are slighting me or getting ready to put me in a ghetto. In fact, I kind of like it. It shows that we are all brothers and sisters celebrating this happy time of year. It doesn't bother me at all that there is a manger scene on display at a key intersection near my beach house in Malibu. If people want a creche, it's just as fine with me as is the Menorah a few hundred yards away."

Steve Lucas.

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups. com, SUVCWORR@... wrote:


That article was in Mainline Modeler but I don't recall the issue and my copies are currently
in storage. The tool works very well and depending on the angle you use, it will allow you to make any wi
width grab iron in small or large increments. The shallower the angle the smaller the steps in width. You
need two pieces of styrene. The first you cut in the shape of a (politically incorrect term coming) Christmas
tree. The trunk becomes the handle. Overlay the branch area with the scribed siding styrene. Then
deepen the scribe lines with either a knife or razor saw. One pass of a saw is usually all that is needed.


Rich Orr

Sometime back one of the magazines ran an article where a piece of sheet
plastic with manufactured scribed slots (siding?) was cut in a triangular
shape with the slots running parallel to the base of the triangle. Then,
you pick the slot that matches the width that you need and lay a piece of
wire in it and simply bend it over the edges of the plastic. Bingo, a grab
iron. The taller the triangle combined with a narrow base gives you a LOT
of slots which vary in length only slightly as you go from one slot to the
next.



I built one of these for a zero cost using scraps from the plastic box and
it works great.



Hopefully my description makes sense.



Allen Cain







Re: Intermountain ATSF caboose

Andy Sperandeo <asperandeo@...>
 

Thanks Steve,

That's very useful. I'm working on four of these cars right now myself. I've already decided to use Tahoe Model Works Bettendorf Swing-Motion trucks, and LaserKit window screens, both of which look more like the real thing than the kit parts.

Andy

Andy Sperandeo
Executive Editor
Model Railroader magazine
asperandeo@mrmag.com
262-796-8776, ext. 461
FAX 262-796-1142


Re: NYC freight car lettering

Bill Darnaby
 

Tom sez...

Thanks guys for the replies. I have emailed Terry to see if he knows and if he does come up with the data I will post it so that all can share. Martin has just put out that NYC 1-1/2 door tall box car, but is very vague about when the NYC went to the Gothic Lettering for reporting marks and dimensional data. Until I find out when, I will be sticking with the kits with the Roman Lettering.
The guy who made the masters for these cars told me that the version of this car available at Naperville is good only for the Gothic lettering as these cars were rebuilt starting in 1955. Therefore, the car I purchased (kit 93.4) will be in very new paint as I model late summer/early fall of 1955. The earlier rebuilds of these cars that would have had the Roman lettering have not been released yet.

Bill Darnaby


Re: WrightTrak B&O M-53

Bruce Smith
 

Apparently not "off-list" after all... stupid Gropewise program (and
user? <G>)
-Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL

"Bruce Smith" <smithbf@auburn.edu> 11/24/09 7:50 AM >>>
"bdg1210" <Bruce_Griffin@uncg.edu> 11/24/09 12:46 AM >>>
Guys,

I know several of you must have purchased this kit at Naperville. Any
feedback? I have one person's opinion of the kit, but would like to hear
others to be fair. Thanks.

Bruce,

Off list. I can't comment directly, as I did not buy the kit, but I was
disappointed that they did not produce the earlier door style. There
seems to be some conflicting information about whether they will
eventually produce the panel door, and I'd love to see a definitive
answer in your review! Of course, there is also the strong rumor of a
plastic M-53 coming soon <VBG>.

Regards
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL


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Re: Red caboose now intermountain

Randy Hammill
 

Hi, Paul -

From what I've seen, they've released the X-29, Beet Gondola, and AAR 1937 box car in a small number of schemes so far.

There's a whole slew of models announced in their "Coming Soon" section:

http://www.imrcmodels.com/newshocomingsoon.html

As far as I know, these are all available only as RTR models.

Undec kits are still available from Red Caboose.

Randy Hammill
http://newbritainstation.com

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Paul" <pdeis@...> wrote:

Is intermountain going to be releasing any of the Red Caboose cars?


Re: WrightTrak B&O M-53

Bruce Smith
 

"bdg1210" <Bruce_Griffin@uncg.edu> 11/24/09 12:46 AM >>>
Guys,

I know several of you must have purchased this kit at Naperville. Any
feedback? I have one person's opinion of the kit, but would like to hear
others to be fair. Thanks.

Bruce,

Off list. I can't comment directly, as I did not buy the kit, but I was
disappointed that they did not produce the earlier door style. There
seems to be some conflicting information about whether they will
eventually produce the panel door, and I'd love to see a definitive
answer in your review! Of course, there is also the strong rumor of a
plastic M-53 coming soon <VBG>.

Regards
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL


Save the date for GopherRail 2010

Bob Sterner
 

GopherRail will be on February 27, 2010, on the University of Minnesota campus, Minneapolis. This is the club's biggest fund raiser of the year, and we hope to see many of you there. GopherRail will include presentations, layouts, Open Mic night, and, new this year, a photo contest. Program information will be posted as it becomes available.

http://www.tc.umn.edu/~rrclubum/gopherrail.htm

Bob Sterner
Faculty Advisor
The Railroad Club at the University of Minnesota


Centralia Car Shops

asychis@...
 

Can someone tell me if Centralia Car Shops is still an independent company
or is their line now owned by InterMountain? Thanks.

Jerry Michels


Coke questions

asychis@...
 

If one wanted to model coke, say to fill the Walthers coke containers, what
material would one use, and what color would it be? Thanks!

Jerry Michels


Re: NYC freight car lettering

tmolsen@...
 

Hi Brian and Al,

Thanks guys for the replies. I have emailed Terry to see if he knows and if he does come up with the data I will post it so that all can share. Martin has just put out that NYC 1-1/2 door tall box car, but is very vague about when the NYC went to the Gothic Lettering for reporting marks and dimensional data. Until I find out when, I will be sticking with the kits with the Roman Lettering.

The NYC is the most unrepresented railroad on Pennsy layouts due to the antipathy of the great number of unwashed SPF's whom I do not wish to associate with.

I spent 14 years on System operations as a Supervisor and then Manager of System Passenger Operations on PC and CR and I worked with a great number of people on both sides of the railroad. All of the people I worked with at all levels did their jobs in a most professional manner. Of course, there was the usual teasing that goes on in any organization, but nothing that could be construed as being serious. When most of the people found out that I was a serious modeler and historian type, they went out of their way to help me get the information that I was looking for. I learned a lot from people on both sides of the fence as one might say.

Best regards,
Tom Olsen
7 Boundary Road, West Branch
Newark, Delaware, 19711-7479
(302) 738-4292
tmolsen@udel.edu

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