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ART Reefer Correction

asychis@...
 

Sometimes I just get too excited! The web site, spelled correctly is:

_www.amarillorailmuseum.com_ (http://www.amarillorailmuseum.com)

Sorry for the misspelling! I've checked it out and it all seems to work
now.

Jerry Michels


Re: New ART Steel Reefer Run Is In

Ed Hawkins
 

On Nov 25, 2009, at 11:26 PM, Tim O'Connor wrote:

Jerry is there any external difference for the Equipco fans?
The photo on your web site just shows a car that says "fans"
http://www.amarillorailmuseum.com/cgi-bin/image/templates/
ART33320webmod.jpg

Do you ever expect a kit to be available? I don't care about the
price I just prefer to build my own...
Tim,
The ART 33000-series cars with Equipco air circulating fans had a
control device tucked up under the car and essentially out of view. The
previous 32000-series cars with Preco air circulating fans had a
control device that was visible on the left side of the car next to the
left bolster.

The newest run of ART cars are available only as assembled models. The
previous run of ART kits could be lettered for either 32000 or 33000
series cars since car numbers were left off and decals were provided.
However, these kits are sold out.
Regards,
Ed Hawkins


Re: New ART Steel Reefer Run Is In

Tim O'Connor
 

Jerry is there any external difference for the Equipco fans?
The photo on your web site just shows a car that says "fans"
http://www.amarillorailmuseum.com/cgi-bin/image/templates/ART33320webmod.jpg

Do you ever expect a kit to be available? I don't care about the
price I just prefer to build my own...

Tim O'Connor

At 11/25/2009 08:46 PM Wednesday, you wrote:
Hello everyone!

The Amarillo Railroad Museum and Missouri Pacific Historical Society are
pleased to announce that our newest run of ART steel ice reefers arrived
today. These are painted in the classic reefer yellow and boxcar red scheme
with Missouri Pacific and Wabash heralds and the ART shield. They are
numbered in the 33000 series which denotes 24000 series cars which had Equipco
mechanical fans added in the early 1950s. There are six numbers available,
all are RTR, no kits right now. Price is $32.95 each plus shipping. ARM and
MPHS members get a 10% discount. Texas residents must add 8.25% sales tax.

Order from our web site now: _www.amarillorailmusuem.com_
(http://www.amarillorailmusuem.com) .

Great Christmas gifts!
There are only 293 cars in this run.
They will soon be listed on e-Bay.

Thanks,

Jerry Michels


Re: New ART Steel Reefer Run Is In

Kenneth Montero
 

Jerry,

Does the Museum or the Historical Society anticipate offering the car in a kit form (as done in the past), as opposed to "ready to run"?

Ken Montero

----- Original Message -----
From: asychis@aol.com
To: "MoPac Modeling" <MoPac_Modeling@yahoogroups.com>, MOPAC@yahoogroups.com, STMFC@yahoogroups.com, bbfcl@yahoogroups.com, Reefer-madness@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 8:46:03 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: [STMFC] New ART Steel Reefer Run Is In






Hello everyone!

The Amarillo Railroad Museum and Missouri Pacific Historical Society are
pleased to announce that our newest run of ART steel ice reefers arrived
today. These are painted in the classic reefer yellow and boxcar red scheme
with Missouri Pacific and Wabash heralds and the ART shield. They are
numbered in the 33000 series which denotes 24000 series cars which had Equipco
mechanical fans added in the early 1950s. There are six numbers available,
all are RTR, no kits right now. Price is $32.95 each plus shipping. ARM and
MPHS members get a 10% discount. Texas residents must add 8.25% sales tax.

Order from our web site now: _www.amarillorailmusuem.com_
( http://www.amarillorailmusuem.com ) .

Great Christmas gifts!
There are only 293 cars in this run.
They will soon be listed on e-Bay.

Thanks,

Jerry Michels






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Re: PRR end door box car

rdgbuff56
 

I haven't read all the posts about these end door cars. Has anybody ever figure out how to model the roof eaves realistically?

Francis A. Pehowic, Jr. in Sunbury, Pa.




________________________________
From: Donald Ford <ford.donald77@yahoo.com>
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, November 25, 2009 9:42:28 PM
Subject: [STMFC] PRR end door box car


Group
Iam sorry i don't know who I am sending this message to because I hit the wrong key and lost the original
but PRR 81945 was a Class X41a built in the late 40s, 46 or 47 they were 50'-6" IL and 14'-6" staggered doors. They were rebuilt in 1963 (65 cars) and the numbers changed to 97910-97974 class X41d. So your car was not a rebuild. They rebuilds kept there end doors.
You can find photos in Color Guide I pp. 81, Color Guide II pp. 44, Keystone Vol. 16-3 pp. 6 class diagram pp. 9 photo. Sunshine made a kit for this car No. 51.2
Don Ford Kanab UT

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From: Douglas Harding <dharding@nethtc. net>
To: STMFC@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Tue, November 24, 2009 7:00:15 PM
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Christmas Trees by Rail


Interestingly all photos I have seen show Christmas Trees stacked on flatcars with stakes made from long wood poles complete with
bark. Of course these photos date from the 20's and 30's. The trees appear to be tied with twine, in bundles. Then the bundles are
laid on their side on the flatcar.

Perhaps boxcars were used for those trees going further distances.

As for shipping dates, think more the end of Oct through Nov. Even for those whose tradition was to put the tree on Dec 24, the
tree was still cut down at the tree farm in the northern US or Canada in Oct or early Nov. Shipping time along could kill weeks.
As a child in the early 60's I remember the stores and tree lots were all filled with trees by Thanksgiving.

Doug Harding
www.iowacentralrr. org


PRR end door box car

Donald Ford <ford.donald77@...>
 

Group
Iam sorry i don't know who I am sending this message to because I hit the wrong key and lost the original
but PRR 81945 was a Class X41a built in the late 40s, 46 or 47 they were 50'-6" IL and 14'-6" staggered doors.  They were rebuilt in 1963 (65 cars) and the numbers changed to 97910-97974 class X41d.  So your car was not a rebuild.  They rebuilds kept there end doors.
You can find photos in Color Guide I pp. 81, Color Guide II pp. 44, Keystone Vol. 16-3 pp. 6 class diagram pp. 9 photo.  Sunshine made a kit for this car No. 51.2
Don Ford Kanab UT




________________________________
From: Douglas Harding <dharding@nethtc.net>
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, November 24, 2009 7:00:15 PM
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Christmas Trees by Rail

 
Interestingly all photos I have seen show Christmas Trees stacked on flatcars with stakes made from long wood poles complete with
bark. Of course these photos date from the 20's and 30's. The trees appear to be tied with twine, in bundles. Then the bundles are
laid on their side on the flatcar.

Perhaps boxcars were used for those trees going further distances.

As for shipping dates, think more the end of Oct through Nov. Even for those whose tradition was to put the tree on Dec 24, the
tree was still cut down at the tree farm in the northern US or Canada in Oct or early Nov. Shipping time along could kill weeks.
As a child in the early 60's I remember the stores and tree lots were all filled with trees by Thanksgiving.

Doug Harding
www.iowacentralrr. org







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Re: joining group

Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
 

Joe Delia wrote:
Thanks for letting me join the group.
Welcome aboard, Joe. Glad to have you, and we'll look forward to your insights.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@signaturepress.com
Publishers of books on railroad history


joining group

Joe Delia
 

Mike;
 Thanks for letting me join the group. Got to my Yahoo e-mails

cheers
Joe DElia





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Re: Stan's long stock car

Donald Ford <ford.donald77@...>
 

Clark
There is a article in MR January 1998 pp. 94-97 about building a NKP 50 foot car that might help you.
Don Ford
Kanab ut


________________________________
From: Clark Propst <cepropst@netconx.net>
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, November 24, 2009 8:54:48 AM
Subject: [STMFC] Stan's long stock car

 
I picked up one of Stan Rydarowicz's new 50' Mathers stock cars at Naperville. I'm about finished with assembly.

The kit is basically a P2K stock car with styrene and resin parts for the doors and center extension of the frame.

All parts needed for assembly are included. The instructions made me laugh because they are written just like Stan talks. He did not included several of the assembly steps, so like most small maker kits, you're on your own. He does provide some poor photocopies of the constructed model. I was impressed by the thought Stan put into this model.

This is a time consuming kit. Heck, the P2K kit is time consuming alone. There is no good photo of a completed model or prototype. The decals included do have a drawing of the cars. A friend supplied photos of the prototype which were quite helpful.

Next time I talk to Stan I'll recommend he amends his instructions to make each step clearer to the builder.

The kit is priced at $35. These cars were built in the early 60s, but are so cool I had to have one!

Stan sells an extensive line of resin supplemented kits including several modified reefers.
Clark Propst
Mason City Iowa

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Re: Prototype Rails 2010: Shake/Take alert.

Mike Brock <brockm@...>
 

Bruce Smith says:

You needed to sign up LAST YEAR as it was the shake and take clinic for
2009 <G>. There will be be a new shake and take for 2010.
Yep. Thanks to Greg Martin, Jim Singer and Denny Anspach, [ hope I have not overlooked anyone ] who attend Prototype Rails annually, plus some manufacturers including Accurail and...ooops...can't mention the 2010 car yet, the Shake/Take clinic is unique to Prototype Rails and you have to be there to participate.

Speaking of Prototype Rails...here's the latest flyer:

PROTOTYPE BASED LAYOUTS


PLEASE BRING MODELS!


80 Clinic Presentations By The Following Clinicians

Mike Rose Tom Madden Gail Komar Dick Flock Joe Oates Ralph Heiss
Howard Goodwin Bill Darnaby Tom Bisset Larry Kline Bruce Smith
Andy Sperandeo Andy Harman Richard Hendrickson Dave Ramos
Marty McGurik Bob Webber Jon Cagle Frank Peacock Scott Mason
Ken Edmier Tim Maslyn Dan Zugelter Mark Amfahr Bob McIntyre Brian Nolan

Jeff Cauthen Tom Wilson Bill Schaumburg Greg Martin Steve Orth
Mont Switzer Tony Koester Tony Thompson John Cantlay George Eichelberger
Bill Welch Lance Mindheim Jim Langston III Roger Hinman Jared Harper

Ted Culotta Mark Vaughn Bob Miller Rick Bell John Roberts
Stan Rydarowicz Bob Johnson Jim Singer Frank Angstead
Harold McGee Mike Moore Locomotive Lee Mike Brock

Manufacturers & Dealers

Walthers, Rapido, Intermountain, Broadway Limited, Southern Car & Foundry,
Speedwitch Models, Tangent Scale Models, Westerfield, 5th Avenue Shops,
Funaro & Camerlengo, Bob's Photos, John C. La Rue Photos, Jay Williams
Photos, Mainline Photos, ACL/SAL Historical Society, Trolleys N' Dollies


Location

COCOA BEACH HILTON HOTEL, 1550 N. Atlantic Ave. [ highway A1a ], COCOA
BEACH, FL.

1-800-526-2609 or 321-799-0003. Refer to Prototype Rails for $99 Room Rate.


Preregistration is $35, Please make your check payable to "Prototype Rails"
and send to Marty Megregian; 480 Gails Way; Merritt Island, FL 32953.

For early arrivals, there will be a dinner at Durango's in Cocoa Beach
Thursday evening Jan 7, at 7 PM. We will meet in the Hilton lobby at
6:30.Following the dinner we will return to the hotel for slide shows and
clinics. A special dinner on Saturday, Jan 9, for Prototype Rails attendees
only will be available for $ 23/person. Tickets are required and must be
purchased no later than Saturday morning. Tickets may be purchased and
reserved in advance and included with the cost of registration. Registration
plus dinner is $58/person. Spouses not attending presentations do not have
to register.


FOR MORE INFORMATION: Contact Mike Brock at: brockm@brevard.net or
321-453-4140

The website is at: http://prototyperails.com/


Re: Prototype Rails 2010: Shake/Take alert.

jerryglow2
 

I believe Southern Car and Foundry who did the castings for the clinic will be releasing them commercially. Other than that all you need is an Accurail stock car kit and some courage.

Jerry Glow

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:


The S-40-10 is news to me... Where do I sign up? :-)

Tim O'Connor


At 11/25/2009 01:22 PM Wednesday, you wrote:
Friends, Le Grande Schlamazz (i.e. Prototype Rails) in Cocoa Beach is
almost upon us, a time to also alert those working on their UP S-40-10
Stock Car Shake/Take kit projects to bring their work for
collaborative display. It makes no difference whether they may be "in
progress", or are in fact completed. Everyone appreciates, and
everyone learns.

Denny

Denny S. Anspach MD
Sacramento


Re: Prototype Rails 2010: Shake/Take alert.

Bruce Smith
 

"Tim O'Connor" <timboconnor@comcast.net> 11/25/09 5:12 PM >>>
The S-40-10 is news to me... Where do I sign up? :-)

Tim,
You needed to sign up LAST YEAR as it was the shake and take clinic for
2009 <G>. There will be be a new shake and take for 2010.

Regards
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL


Re: Prototype Rails 2010: Shake/Take alert.

Tim O'Connor
 

The S-40-10 is news to me... Where do I sign up? :-)

Tim O'Connor

At 11/25/2009 01:22 PM Wednesday, you wrote:
Friends, Le Grande Schlamazz (i.e. Prototype Rails) in Cocoa Beach is
almost upon us, a time to also alert those working on their UP S-40-10
Stock Car Shake/Take kit projects to bring their work for
collaborative display. It makes no difference whether they may be "in
progress", or are in fact completed. Everyone appreciates, and
everyone learns.

Denny

Denny S. Anspach MD
Sacramento


Re: Swift Reefers

Charles Etheredge
 

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Jim Hayes <jimhayes97225@...> wrote:

Go to the Flyers by RR link on my website to find flyers for all the
Sunshine Swift reefer kits. Reading the flyers should answer your questions.

Jim Hayes
Portland Oregon
www.sunshinekits.com
Thanks Jim. I did look at your website but wasn't aware of the "Flyers" link. That answered my questions.
Looks like I will have to order a couple of Sunshine kits.

Thanks guys for the info.

Charles Etheredge


New ART Steel Reefer Run Is In

asychis@...
 

Hello everyone!

The Amarillo Railroad Museum and Missouri Pacific Historical Society are
pleased to announce that our newest run of ART steel ice reefers arrived
today. These are painted in the classic reefer yellow and boxcar red scheme
with Missouri Pacific and Wabash heralds and the ART shield. They are
numbered in the 33000 series which denotes 24000 series cars which had Equipco
mechanical fans added in the early 1950s. There are six numbers available,
all are RTR, no kits right now. Price is $32.95 each plus shipping. ARM and
MPHS members get a 10% discount. Texas residents must add 8.25% sales tax.

Order from our web site now: _www.amarillorailmusuem.com_
(http://www.amarillorailmusuem.com) .

Great Christmas gifts!
There are only 293 cars in this run.
They will soon be listed on e-Bay.

Thanks,

Jerry Michels


Re: Kit instructions: - was Stan's long stock car

Dennis Williams
 

Hi, Clark.
  Knowledge of the prototype is the biggest help in my line of work.  Clean casting also helps. With some companys could use some help with the decals. Other than these, no other problems with 300+ kits built.   Dennis
 
Dennis Williams
Munhall, Pa.
www.resinbuilders4u.com

--- On Wed, 11/25/09, Clark Propst <cepropst@netconx.net> wrote:


From: Clark Propst <cepropst@netconx.net>
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Kit instructions: - was Stan's long stock car
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, November 25, 2009, 7:35 AM


 



With resin kits priced at $40-50 today as a consumer I buy what I think I need, not necessarily knowing anything about the prototype car. I'm depending on the maker to provide me with not only good photos and text for construction, but knowledge of the prototype.
Clark Propst
Mason City Iowa

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Prototype Rails 2010: Shake/Take alert.

Denny Anspach <danspach@...>
 

Friends, Le Grande Schlamazz (i.e. Prototype Rails) in Cocoa Beach is almost upon us, a time to also alert those working on their UP S-40-10 Stock Car Shake/Take kit projects to bring their work for collaborative display. It makes no difference whether they may be "in progress", or are in fact completed. Everyone appreciates, and everyone learns.

Denny

Denny S. Anspach MD
Sacramento


Re: Atlas HO Hart Ballast Cars

peteraue
 

Before you paint them, you may want to consider a fix to their biggest shortfall: They sit too high on the rails. Richard Hendrickson published an excellent article how to fix them in the SFRH&MS Warbonnet Q1-2004. If you need a copy please contact me.
Peter Aue


Re: Kit instructions: - was Stan's long stock car

Clark Propst <cepropst@...>
 

With resin kits priced at $40-50 today as a consumer I buy what I think I need, not necessarily knowing anything about the prototype car. I'm depending on the maker to provide me with not only good photos and text for construction, but knowledge of the prototype.
Clark Propst
Mason City Iowa


Re: Kit instructions: - was Stan's long stock car

rockroll50401 <cepropst@...>
 

According to Red Green, it's manly to throw the instructions away. However, you should keep the set in a foreign language is case you need to look at the photos.

Clark "Needing Bill to edit my emails" Propst

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