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Re: CB&Q 48 foot composite mill gons

Eric Mumper
 

Claus,

The photocopies I have are actually clear enough to confirm the lever handbrake.

Eric Mumper

* The car comes with a side-mounted brake wheel. While the photos I've received are not entirely conclusive, it appears these cars
had (I'm not sure I've for the terminology right) lever brakes, much like those on the as-delivered USRA composite gons. This will
need to be changed as well


FS: 1953 Car Builders, in UK.

Dave Nelson
 

New this morning. Pretty good price for this edition. Located in the UK.

Don't know seller.

Dave Nelson
====================================


1. CAR BUILDERS' CYCLOPEDIA OF AMERICAN PRACTICE, PECK C B (Editor)
SIMMONS-BOARDMAN, 1953, Cloth, , US ROLLING STOCK RAILROAD CARS USA
RAILWAYS RAILWAY VANS CARRIAGES, An original copy of the 'Bible' of US
railway carriage and goods wagon construction. 1280pp with over several
thousand photos and drawings! 1953 issue. Contents are generally VG, tear
repair to tear on reverse of title page.
Bookseller: Martin Bott Bookdealers Ltd, Bolton, LAN
Price: £ 60.00 (US$ 99.87)

View or Order this Book:
http://www.abebooks.com/servlet/ListingDetails?bi=1811959005&cm_ven=nl&cm_ca
t=trg&cm_pla=want&cm_ite=viewbook


Re: [MFCL] Southern Railway 50 ft. all-steel box car book is available

Mike Brock <brockm@...>
 

Tom Olsen writes:

Here is the link to the Southern Railway Historical Association "Grab" which gives the lowdown on this book. It has a sample of the first few pages.

http://www.srha.net/public/news/detail.asp?news_id=25

I sent my order in on December 7th when I saw it listed in their online store the "Grab". It looks really good! George Eichelberger has out done himself again!
And, I assume George will have them for sale at Prototype Rails/Cocoa Beach.

Mike Brock


Re: Southern Railway 50 ft. all-steel box car book is available

Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
 

Tom Olsen> wrote:
Tony,
Here is the link to the Southern Railway Historical Association "Grab" which gives the lowdown on this book. It has a sample of the first few pages.
Thanks, Tom. I will certainly consider an on-line purchase if there aren't sales at Cocoa Beach. But that venue seems like a serious opportunity to have an awful lot of freight car enthusiasts--and thus potential buyers--in one tent (as it were). If the SRHA hasn't considered selling there, maybe they should.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@...
Publishers of books on railroad history


Re: stock car cyclopedia

William Keene <wakeene@...>
 

Lester,

Check out this link. i believe it may answer your second question...

http://www.atsfrr.net/resources/Sandifer/Clinics/Stk/Mod/Lind.htm

Bill Keene
Irvine, CA


On Dec 20, 2009, at 9:48 AM, frograbbit602 wrote:

All, In looking for a prototype for a styrene/plastic stock car by Lindberg in the Stock Car Cyclopedia, Vol. 1 by Hundman there was reference to a Vol. 2. Can someone tell me if Vol. 2 was ever published?
And, does anyone know if there was a prototype for the Lindberg stock car as I have had no success in finding one?

Lester Breuer



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stock car cyclopedia

frograbbit602
 

All, In looking for a prototype for a styrene/plastic stock car by Lindberg in the Stock Car Cyclopedia, Vol. 1 by Hundman there was reference to a Vol. 2. Can someone tell me if Vol. 2 was ever published?
And, does anyone know if there was a prototype for the Lindberg stock car as I have had no success in finding one?

Lester Breuer


BAOX Standard Tank Car 6 course tank

pierreoliver2003 <pierre.oliver@...>
 

Can anyone supply me with the numbering of the BAOX tank cars that was applied to the Standard Tank Car 6 course tank.
Many thanks,
Pierre Oliver


Re: [MFCL] Southern Railway 50 ft. all-steel box car book is available

tmolsen@...
 

Tony,

Here is the link to the Southern Railway Historical Association "Grab" which gives the lowdown on this book. It has a sample of the first few pages.

http://www.srha.net/public/news/detail.asp?news_id=25

I sent my order in on December 7th when I saw it listed in their online store the "Grab". It looks really good! George Eichelberger has out done himself again!

Tom Olsen
7 Boundary Road, West Branch
Delaware, 19711-7479
(302) 738-4292
tmolsen@...

Digging out from under 14 inches of snow!


Re: Spencer Kellog & Sons SKX tank cars.

pullmanboss <tgmadden@...>
 

Denny Anspach:
That Spen Kellogg is a direct descendent of the principals of this firm is indeed exciting, and quite motivating. What a great coincidence! I was thinking of perhaps some other lettering, but..certainly not now!
Gee, Denny, don't get carried away! Spen and I volunteer at the Colorado RR Museum library on Wednesdays, and we certainly don't want him to get (as my grandmother used to say) "the big head". If I see him before leaving for Cocoa Beach I'll try to get his autograph for you.

Tom Madden


Re: Spencer Kellog & Sons SKX tank cars.

Brian Carlson
 

Denny:

From Richard back in July.

Bill, the bad news is that Spencer Kellogg sold its tank car fleet to
General American in the World War II period and, though it leased the cars
back under SKX reporting marks, eventually those cars were absorbed into the
GATX fleet and there are no SKX cars in the 1/55 ORER.



The good news is that I have a 1959 photo of an STC car in GATX reporting
marks that was essentially the same as SKX 239 except that it had been
converted to AB air brakes, and I'll send it to you off list. Al Ferguson
at Black Cat Decals in Canada has an excellent GATX decal set which could be
used to letter the model.



Richard Hendrickson



I got a set of Al's decals for my circa 1957 car.



Brian J. Carlson, P.E.

Cheektowaga NY



From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of
docdenny34
Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2009 10:22 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Spencer Kellog & Sons SKX tank cars.







--- In STMFC@... <mailto:STMFC%40yahoogroups.com> , Richard
Hendrickson <rhendrickson@...> wrote:

On Dec 19, 2009, at 4:56 PM, Denny Anspach wrote:

I am working on a SC&F cast resin Standard Car Co. 6 course tank car
to be lettered for the Spencer Kellogg & Sons vegetable oil refiners
in Buffalo. Can anyone tell me about this company? My relevant
ORERS, 1926, 1943, 1952, 1958 apparently do not list this company,
nor its SKX reporting marks. I thus presume that this company must
have existed during the 1930s- or .....?.

The only dates that I can read on the ultra fine decals enclosed in
the kit are a build date of 1920, and some repack/reweigh dates in the
1950s. I cannot read the dates on the tank car photo.

Does anyone know whether or not Spencer Kellogg had any other tank
cars besides #231?
Denny, the reason you can't find SKX in the ORERs is that those cars
are listed under General American, who took them over in the 1930s
and operated them for Spencer Kellogg. There were 145 SKX cars in
1945. I'll send you a hi-res scan of SKX 231, as that photo came
from my collection, and you should be able to read the dates better.
Spencer Kellogg was a linseed oil refiner in Buffalo, NY. The
founder began making linseed oil in the 19th century, the company was
incorporated in 1912, and at one time it was the world's largest
producer of linseed oil. Google it and you'll find a lot of
information. Spen Kellogg, grandson of the founder, is a model
railroader and in the past has subscribed to this list. If he's
still on the list, he can give you the whole story of the company and
the family. He was, as you can imagine, extremely pleased when Jon
Cagle introduced the model.

Richard Hendrickson
Great information, Richard and Louis. I did look again in my 1943 ORER and
there it was, but under K instead of S. Sometimes it takes a genius to point
out the direction towards common sense.

However, I still can find neither hide nor hair of these cars nor the SKX
reporting mark in the 1953 ORER under the GATX listings, so I presume that
these cars had disappeared by that time and the cars had probably morphed to
GATX reporting marks. Nes Pas?

That Spen Kellogg is a direct descendent of the principals of this firm is
indeed exciting, and quite motivating. What a great coincidence! I was
thinking of perhaps some other lettering, but..certainly not now!

If I have time this coming week...(heh, heh), I may go down to the CSRM
library and look at ORERS 1948-53 in an attempt to plot the disappearance of
these cars into the GATX fold and reporting marks.

Denny


Re: Spencer Kellog & Sons SKX tank cars.

drgwrail
 

Spen Kellogg lives here in Boulder.  I will see if I can find an e-mail address for him.
 
chuck yungkurth

--- On Sat, 12/19/09, docdenny34 <danspach@...> wrote:


From: docdenny34 <danspach@...>
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Spencer Kellog & Sons SKX tank cars.
To: STMFC@...
Date: Saturday, December 19, 2009, 8:22 PM


 





--- In STMFC@yahoogroups. com, Richard Hendrickson <rhendrickson@ ...> wrote:

On Dec 19, 2009, at 4:56 PM, Denny Anspach wrote:

I am working on a SC&F cast resin Standard Car Co. 6 course tank car
to be lettered for the Spencer Kellogg & Sons vegetable oil refiners
in Buffalo. Can anyone tell me about this company? My relevant
ORERS, 1926, 1943, 1952, 1958 apparently do not list this company,
nor its SKX reporting marks. I thus presume that this company must
have existed during the 1930s- or .....?.

The only dates that I can read on the ultra fine decals enclosed in
the kit are a build date of 1920, and some repack/reweigh dates in the
1950s. I cannot read the dates on the tank car photo.

Does anyone know whether or not Spencer Kellogg had any other tank
cars besides #231?
Denny, the reason you can't find SKX in the ORERs is that those cars
are listed under General American, who took them over in the 1930s
and operated them for Spencer Kellogg. There were 145 SKX cars in
1945. I'll send you a hi-res scan of SKX 231, as that photo came
from my collection, and you should be able to read the dates better.
Spencer Kellogg was a linseed oil refiner in Buffalo, NY. The
founder began making linseed oil in the 19th century, the company was
incorporated in 1912, and at one time it was the world's largest
producer of linseed oil. Google it and you'll find a lot of
information. Spen Kellogg, grandson of the founder, is a model
railroader and in the past has subscribed to this list. If he's
still on the list, he can give you the whole story of the company and
the family. He was, as you can imagine, extremely pleased when Jon
Cagle introduced the model.

Richard Hendrickson
Great information, Richard and Louis. I did look again in my 1943 ORER and there it was, but under K instead of S. Sometimes it takes a genius to point out the direction towards common sense.

However, I still can find neither hide nor hair of these cars nor the SKX reporting mark in the 1953 ORER under the GATX listings, so I presume that these cars had disappeared by that time and the cars had probably morphed to GATX reporting marks. Nes Pas?

That Spen Kellogg is a direct descendent of the principals of this firm is indeed exciting, and quite motivating. What a great coincidence! I was thinking of perhaps some other lettering, but..certainly not now!

If I have time this coming week...(heh, heh), I may go down to the CSRM library and look at ORERS 1948-53 in an attempt to plot the disappearance of these cars into the GATX fold and reporting marks.

Denny











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Re: Spencer Kellog & Sons SKX tank cars.

docdenny34 <danspach@...>
 

--- In STMFC@..., Richard Hendrickson <rhendrickson@...> wrote:

On Dec 19, 2009, at 4:56 PM, Denny Anspach wrote:

I am working on a SC&F cast resin Standard Car Co. 6 course tank car
to be lettered for the Spencer Kellogg & Sons vegetable oil refiners
in Buffalo. Can anyone tell me about this company? My relevant
ORERS, 1926, 1943, 1952, 1958 apparently do not list this company,
nor its SKX reporting marks. I thus presume that this company must
have existed during the 1930s- or .....?.

The only dates that I can read on the ultra fine decals enclosed in
the kit are a build date of 1920, and some repack/reweigh dates in the
1950s. I cannot read the dates on the tank car photo.

Does anyone know whether or not Spencer Kellogg had any other tank
cars besides #231?
Denny, the reason you can't find SKX in the ORERs is that those cars
are listed under General American, who took them over in the 1930s
and operated them for Spencer Kellogg. There were 145 SKX cars in
1945. I'll send you a hi-res scan of SKX 231, as that photo came
from my collection, and you should be able to read the dates better.
Spencer Kellogg was a linseed oil refiner in Buffalo, NY. The
founder began making linseed oil in the 19th century, the company was
incorporated in 1912, and at one time it was the world's largest
producer of linseed oil. Google it and you'll find a lot of
information. Spen Kellogg, grandson of the founder, is a model
railroader and in the past has subscribed to this list. If he's
still on the list, he can give you the whole story of the company and
the family. He was, as you can imagine, extremely pleased when Jon
Cagle introduced the model.

Richard Hendrickson
Great information, Richard and Louis. I did look again in my 1943 ORER and there it was, but under K instead of S. Sometimes it takes a genius to point out the direction towards common sense.

However, I still can find neither hide nor hair of these cars nor the SKX reporting mark in the 1953 ORER under the GATX listings, so I presume that these cars had disappeared by that time and the cars had probably morphed to GATX reporting marks. Nes Pas?

That Spen Kellogg is a direct descendent of the principals of this firm is indeed exciting, and quite motivating. What a great coincidence! I was thinking of perhaps some other lettering, but..certainly not now!

If I have time this coming week...(heh, heh), I may go down to the CSRM library and look at ORERS 1948-53 in an attempt to plot the disappearance of these cars into the GATX fold and reporting marks.

Denny


Re: [MFCL] Southern Railway 50 ft. all-steel box car book is available

Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
 

Frank Greene wrote:
For those who have last minute Christmas shopping still to do, "Southern Railway Equipment Drawings and Photographs, Volume II, Book 1, 50 ft. All-Steel Box Cars, 1938 - 1963" is now available from the Southern
Railway Historical Association . . .
If it's as good as Volume 1, on 40-foot cars, it's a masterpiece. Will copies of Volume II be available or sale at Cocoa Beach, perchance? Bet you'd sell a stack of them.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@...
Publishers of books on railroad history


Southern Railway 50 ft. all-steel box car book is available

Frank Greene
 

For those who have last minute Christmas shopping still to do, "Southern Railway Equipment Drawings and Photographs, Volume II, Book 1, 50 ft. All-Steel Box Cars, 1938 - 1963" is now available from the Southern Railway Historical Association: <http://www.srha.net/public/grab/item_detail.asp?id=332>. Book 1 covers new cars from the 10 ft. inside height, double door cars built in 1938 to the All-Door and early Super Cushion Underframe cars built in 1963.

Book 2 will cover cars built 1964 to 1982 and SRHA's goal is to publish it in mid-2010.

In addition, the 40 ft. All-Steel Box Car book, which covered all steel cars, as built, is still available: <http://www.srha.net/public/grab/item_detail.asp?id=59>.

--

Frank Greene
Memphis, TN


Re: Spencer Kellog & Sons SKX tank cars.

Richard Hendrickson
 

On Dec 19, 2009, at 4:56 PM, Denny Anspach wrote:

I am working on a SC&F cast resin Standard Car Co. 6 course tank car
to be lettered for the Spencer Kellogg & Sons vegetable oil refiners
in Buffalo. Can anyone tell me about this company? My relevant
ORERS, 1926, 1943, 1952, 1958 apparently do not list this company,
nor its SKX reporting marks. I thus presume that this company must
have existed during the 1930s- or .....?.

The only dates that I can read on the ultra fine decals enclosed in
the kit are a build date of 1920, and some repack/reweigh dates in the
1950s. I cannot read the dates on the tank car photo.

Does anyone know whether or not Spencer Kellogg had any other tank
cars besides #231?
Denny, the reason you can't find SKX in the ORERs is that those cars
are listed under General American, who took them over in the 1930s
and operated them for Spencer Kellogg. There were 145 SKX cars in
1945. I'll send you a hi-res scan of SKX 231, as that photo came
from my collection, and you should be able to read the dates better.
Spencer Kellogg was a linseed oil refiner in Buffalo, NY. The
founder began making linseed oil in the 19th century, the company was
incorporated in 1912, and at one time it was the world's largest
producer of linseed oil. Google it and you'll find a lot of
information. Spen Kellogg, grandson of the founder, is a model
railroader and in the past has subscribed to this list. If he's
still on the list, he can give you the whole story of the company and
the family. He was, as you can imagine, extremely pleased when Jon
Cagle introduced the model.

Richard Hendrickson


Re: Spencer Kellog & Sons SKX tank cars.

LOUIS WHITELEY <octoraro1@...>
 

I just got the January 1943 ORER reprint from the NMRA.  The SKX cars are on page 956 -- 156 cars (updated April 1942).  The series with 231 lists 219 to 231 inclusive.

Lou Whiteley
Lawrencville, NJ




________________________________
From: Denny Anspach <danspach@...>
To: Steam Era Freight Car List <STMFC@...>
Sent: Sat, December 19, 2009 7:56:24 PM
Subject: [STMFC] Spencer Kellog & Sons SKX tank cars.

 
I am working on a SC&F cast resin Standard Car Co. 6 course tank car
to be lettered for the Spencer Kellogg & Sons vegetable oil refiners
in Buffalo. Can anyone tell me about this company? My relevant
ORERS, 1926, 1943, 1952, 1958 apparently do not list this company,
nor its SKX reporting marks. I thus presume that this company must
have existed during the 1930s- or .....?.

The only dates that I can read on the ultra fine decals enclosed in
the kit are a build date of 1920, and some repack/reweigh dates in the
1950s. I cannot read the dates on the tank car photo.

Does anyone know whether or not Spencer Kellogg had any other tank
cars besides #231?

Thank you

Denny

Denny S. Anspach MD
Sacramento




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Re: Spencer Kellog & Sons SKX tank cars.

LOUIS WHITELEY <octoraro1@...>
 

The October 1948 ORER lists cars numbered from 5 to 364 totaling seven cars in the General American section with the SKX reporting marks.  They're listed with a 30 ton capacity.  I guess that gives us two more numbers to use.

Lou Whiteley
Lawrenceville, NJ



________________________________
From: Denny Anspach <danspach@...>
To: Steam Era Freight Car List <STMFC@...>
Sent: Sat, December 19, 2009 7:56:24 PM
Subject: [STMFC] Spencer Kellog & Sons SKX tank cars.

 
I am working on a SC&F cast resin Standard Car Co. 6 course tank car
to be lettered for the Spencer Kellogg & Sons vegetable oil refiners
in Buffalo. Can anyone tell me about this company? My relevant
ORERS, 1926, 1943, 1952, 1958 apparently do not list this company,
nor its SKX reporting marks. I thus presume that this company must
have existed during the 1930s- or .....?.

The only dates that I can read on the ultra fine decals enclosed in
the kit are a build date of 1920, and some repack/reweigh dates in the
1950s. I cannot read the dates on the tank car photo.

Does anyone know whether or not Spencer Kellogg had any other tank
cars besides #231?

Thank you

Denny

Denny S. Anspach MD
Sacramento




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Re: Railway Gazette and Railway Age

Claus Schlund &#92;(HGM&#92;)
 

Hi Richard,

Richard Townsend wrote:
Here's what I suspect is a forlorn hope: is there a comprehensive
index to these publications? If not, other than by going through
each issue, how does one find anything about, say, a steam era
freight car? If there are annual indices, and they collected
somewhere?
Several folks have already replied on this topic, but I'll try to address the portion of your question that reads:

If not, other than by going through each issue, how does one find anything about, say, a steam era freight car?

If your interest if regarding some single specific freight car, then look thru the issues published during the year the car was
built. If there was anything innovative or newsworthy regarding the car's construction, there would be some article on that topic.
In any case, there is usually a summary or a two-liner regarding all freight car orders placed, and while it might not get you a pic
or elevation drawings you can at least know who the builder was and how many of the cars were ordered in that one lot.

In any case, I think you will find old issues of Railway Age and such are terrific fun to just leaf thru for the era of your
interest.

- Claus Schlund


Spencer Kellog & Sons SKX tank cars.

Denny Anspach <danspach@...>
 

I am working on a SC&F cast resin Standard Car Co. 6 course tank car to be lettered for the Spencer Kellogg & Sons vegetable oil refiners in Buffalo. Can anyone tell me about this company? My relevant ORERS, 1926, 1943, 1952, 1958 apparently do not list this company, nor its SKX reporting marks. I thus presume that this company must have existed during the 1930s- or .....?.

The only dates that I can read on the ultra fine decals enclosed in the kit are a build date of 1920, and some repack/reweigh dates in the 1950s. I cannot read the dates on the tank car photo.

Does anyone know whether or not Spencer Kellogg had any other tank cars besides #231?

Thank you

Denny


Denny S. Anspach MD
Sacramento


Re: CB&Q 48 foot composite mill gons

Claus Schlund &#92;(HGM&#92;)
 

Hi,

Thanks everyone for your more than helpful responses - I would never have guessed that so much imformation would be coming my way!
Several folks sent me images off-list, thank you for those as they were very helpful.


Here is my admittedly meager comtribution to the topic...

A builders photo from the 1931 CBC (TSC #46) pg 215...

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4043/4198770352_3af882d03d_b.jpg

An set of images of the N-scale Micro-Trains gon in CB&Q paint...

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2660/4198016869_ca287111ea_b.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2557/4198770700_ced97c70ab_b.jpg

Lastly, am image of the undecorated Micro-Trains shell...

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2786/4198017167_0dca0ebd6f_b.jpg

The car looks pretty good rite out of the box, and the factory lettering appears to be correct. A few things need to be fixed.

* The car comes with a straight center sill, and the prototype has a fishbelly center sill. This needs to be corrected

* The car rides too high and needs to be lowered

* The car comes with a side-mounted brake wheel. While the photos I've received are not entirely conclusive, it appears these cars
had (I'm not sure I've for the terminology right) lever brakes, much like those on the as-delivered USRA composite gons. This will
need to be changed as well

* The car comes with dreadnaught drop ends, and they should be 5-rib inverse Murphy. Not sure how to correct this...

* The two end panels in the Micro-Trains model are slightly longer then the rest of the panels, and the prototype was just the
opposite. I'm not going to make any effort to correct this. Oh well!

Thanks again everyone, I've got some fun work to do.

- Claus Schlund

----- Original Message -----
From: "Claus Schlund (HGM)" <claus@...>
To: "STMFC" <STMFC@...>
Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 3:38 PM
Subject: [STMFC] CB&Q 48 foot composite mill gons


Hi,

I'm trying to gather up some info on CB&Q 48 foot composite mill gons, but information and in-service images of these particular
gons are proving elusive. I'm hoping someone here can help.

The cars I'm asking about are pictured in the 1931 CBC (TSC #46) page 215, which shows a builders photo of CB&Q 195499, described
as follows: Composite Gondola Car, Solid Bottom, Drop Ends, ARA Class GM, Length Inside 48'6"; Builder, Pressed Steel Car Company.

Apparently, this car was part of the series CB&Q 195000 to 196499. For a class that had 1500 cars in it, you would think I'd be
able to turn up SOMETHING! I have the CB&Q Historical Societies Data Sheet on composite gons, but it covers only 40 foot gons and
makes no mention of the above cars.

According to Dec 1930 ORER, statistics for this car class are:

MCB class GM (gon, drop ends)
195000 to 196499
IL 48' 6"
IW 9' 3/4"
IH 3' 10"
OL 49' 9 3/4"
OW 10' 3"
Extreme Ht 7' 6 3/4"
Cap 1770 cu ft or 100000 lb
1498 cars

An image of an N scale model of this car by MicroTrains can be seen at:

http://i.ebayimg.com/05/!BP8hDBgCGk~$(KGrHgoOKj4EjlLmY+TiBJ2Qr6EpC!~~_12.JPG

(hopefully the line will not wrap!)

The MicroTrains model appears to be a excellent match structurally. But I'm curious about the paint and lettering. The builders
photo in the above 1931 CBC shows a two-color paint scheme, with all the wood parts painted white and the metal parts painted a
darker color. I assume this paint scheme was for the photo only, and not for service. Can someone on this list confirm? Also, can
anyone point me to a in-service photo of these gons? I'm interested in the as-built lettering. Lastly, anyone know if these gons
were used for any specific service, routing or customer on the CB&Q?

Thanks in advance for any info.

- Claus





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