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Re: Air Hoses

Jim Pickett
 

Evidently High Tech Details has made as much money as they want to and are uninterested in helping past customers. I ordered several sets of their passenger car diaphragms only to find upon reading the instructions that if I intended to install them on Walthers cars I needed an extra part. Nothing in the instructions told me how to obtain that part. I E-mailed them asking specifically what the part was and how to obtain it. Their curt reply was to look in the catalog.  Naturally no such part was listed, at least not defining it as the part I needed for a Walthers conversion. I have since written four more times, the last two times mentioning that I could not continue as a customer if I didn't get a reply. Naturally, no reply. If this company, High Tech Details, is so rude and inconsiderate of it's customers I would consider not doing business with them - at least not if you expect customer service in the future.


Jim Pickett

--- On Thu, 1/28/10, pullmanboss <tgmadden@worldnet.att.net> wrote:


From: pullmanboss <tgmadden@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: [STMFC] Re:Air Hoses
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, January 28, 2010, 10:13 AM


 



Dennis, the hoses are positionable in the set with the brass hangers and eyelets. How widely used was the style of hanger HTD modeled? It looks like a forged piece - very nicely done - but was that more common than than ones made of bent flat plate?

(It does seem silly to be quibbling over differences that can barely be seen without magnification! )

Tom Madden

The only problem I see is that due to the expense of building a mold that would put the angle cock and hose at the proper angle to the bracket, neither of the hoses w/brackets do so. Looks like the hoses w/o brackets are the way to go.

Dennis


L&N SS boxcar

jerryglow2
 

Does any have or can point me to a photo of an L&N 12000-13499 series SS boxcar? I have TS#3 with an apparant builder photo with early style lettering but am looking for one appropriate for 50s era to do an F&C kit recently purchased.

Jerry Glow


Re: Air Hoses

Rich C
 

I agree Dennis, however the bracket may be more suitable for the modern cars.
 
Rich Christie

--- On Thu, 1/28/10, soolinehistory <destorzek@mchsi.com> wrote:


From: soolinehistory <destorzek@mchsi.com>
Subject: [STMFC] Re:Air Hoses
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, January 28, 2010, 8:17 AM


 





--- In STMFC@yahoogroups. com, Rich C <rhcdmc@...> wrote:

Hi-Tech Details

http://www.hitechde tails.com/

Rich Christie
The only problem I see is that due to the expense of building a mold that would put the angle cock and hose at the proper angle to the bracket, neither of the hoses w/brackets do so. Looks like the hoses w/o brackets are the way to go.

Dennis











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Michigan freight cars

Frank Valoczy <destron@...>
 

First a yes/no question:

D&TS 1000-1299 series hoppers - USRA?

And: can anyone give any leads for these?

Delray Connecting 3001-3052, 4027-4032 (hoppers)
Port Huron & Detroit 1001-1005, 1006-1522 (XM)
Wyandotte Terminal 38, 80-84 (XMs); 917-966 (HM); 967-986 (GB)
Escanaba & Lake Superior 2002-2010 (XM)
Manistique & Lake Superior 50-52 (XM), 25000-25024 (FM)
Erie & Michigan 1101-1103 (LO), 1201-1205 (GB)

Thanks,

Frank Valoczy
Vancouver, BC


Re: Air Hoses

pullmanboss <tgmadden@...>
 

Dennis, the hoses are positionable in the set with the brass hangers and eyelets. How widely used was the style of hanger HTD modeled? It looks like a forged piece - very nicely done - but was that more common than than ones made of bent flat plate?

(It does seem silly to be quibbling over differences that can barely be seen without magnification!)

Tom Madden

The only problem I see is that due to the expense of building a mold that would put the angle cock and hose at the proper angle to the bracket, neither of the hoses w/brackets do so. Looks like the hoses w/o brackets are the way to go.

Dennis


Re: Air Hoses

Dennis Storzek
 

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Rich C <rhcdmc@...> wrote:

Hi-Tech Details

http://www.hitechdetails.com/

Rich Christie
The only problem I see is that due to the expense of building a mold that would put the angle cock and hose at the proper angle to the bracket, neither of the hoses w/brackets do so. Looks like the hoses w/o brackets are the way to go.

Dennis


Re: Air Hoses

Rich C
 

Hi-Tech Details
 
http://www.hitechdetails.com/
 
Rich Christie

--- On Thu, 1/28/10, asychis@aol.com <asychis@aol.com> wrote:


From: asychis@aol.com <asychis@aol.com>
Subject: [STMFC] Re:Air Hoses
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, January 28, 2010, 7:53 AM


 



Paul,

Is it Hi-Tech or Hy-Tech?

Jerry Michels

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Re: Air Hoses

asychis@...
 

Paul,

Is it Hi-Tech or Hy-Tech?

Jerry Michels


Air Hoses

Paul Lyons
 

Maybe six to nine months ago Hi-Tech Details first introduced their rubber HO scale freight car air hoses. I was really high on this product with a number of posts to the group about how good they looked on my models. However, Denny Anspach threw a bit of a damper on things when he quickly pointed out that they were not the correct AAR 22" in length for our era freight cars.

I shared Dr Denny's email with my friend Jim Booth at Hi-Tech Models. I ask Jim if he would correct the issue, and he said he would, but would not commit to a timeframe. Well, the time is NOW! The "corrected" air hoses are back and they are better than ever. Jim has not only corrected the length of the hose, but has also given us three different arrangements to chose from. Just the the rubber hose (#6038), which I now use with the PSC bracket; the rubber hose with a rubber mounting bracket (#6039); and best of all, the rubber hose with a brass bracket (different than the PSC one) into which to mount the hose. These are really NICE!!

Check them out at the Hy-Tech web site and buy a bunch as a way of thanking a manufacturer who listens to the modeler's needs.

Paul Lyons
Laguna Niguel, CA


Re: Another boxcar question (D&TS)

pennsylvania1954
 

I went to the Steam Era Freight Cars site to see this same info, but found some data had fallen thru the crack between page 1 and page 2. The D&TS, ERIE, GA and one of the GM&O series are missing from the chart.

Steve Hoxie
Pensacola FL

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:

You need a copy of Ed Hawkins' excellent 10/1999 Railmodel Journal
article. From that article:

D&TS series 3000-3049 built 1948 PS, lot 5891A,
10 panel riveted, 4/4 IDE, 7' YSD-1 door, RP roof,
8-rung ladders

This is also Branchline kit #1602 if you can find one.

Tim O'Connor



...anyone know where I might find information or pictures of the D&TS
3000-3049 series of boxcars? All I've managed to find so far is a picture
of an N scale model.

Frank Valoczy
Vancouver, BC


Re: Removing Athearn Lettering

Richard Hendrickson
 

Thanks to Richard S., Lester Breuer, and Tim O'Connor for their
responses on this subject. Un fortunately, no one has yet come up
with a tried and true method for taking lettering off of current
production Athearn freight cars without removing the paint, and if
any list subscriber knows of such a method, I'd like to hear about
it. I'd do some experimenting myself if I had any recent production
Athearn models I wanted to strip and re-letter, but I don't. To
complicate matters, the modeler who originally posted the question is
in Italy, where products that might do they job may not be readily
available, or may be marketed under a different name.

Richard Hendrickson


Rail Graphics

Al and Patricia Westerfield <westerfield@...>
 

Spoke with Ron the other day. He is recovering slowly from his rotator cuff surgery. He says the rehab work is killing him. He still is a long way from getting fully back to work. He's calling on a friend to do the actual silk screening and should be filling orders the third week in February. - Al Westerfield


Re: Another boxcar question (D&TS)

Frank Valoczy <destron@...>
 

Tim, Rich,

Thanks for the replies! Unfortunately a year too new for me, so will have
to find a different representative for D&TS.

Frank Valoczy
Vancouver, BC

Tim O'Connor wrote:

You need a copy of Ed Hawkins' excellent 10/1999 Railmodel Journal
article. From that article:

D&TS series 3000-3049 built 1948 PS, lot 5891A,
10 panel riveted, 4/4 IDE, 7' YSD-1 door, RP roof,
8-rung ladders

This is also Branchline kit #1602 if you can find one.

Tim O'Connor



...anyone know where I might find information or pictures of the D&TS
3000-3049 series of boxcars? All I've managed to find so far is a picture
of an N scale model.

Frank Valoczy
Vancouver, BC


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Re: Another boxcar question (D&TS)

Tim O'Connor
 

You need a copy of Ed Hawkins' excellent 10/1999 Railmodel Journal
article. From that article:

D&TS series 3000-3049 built 1948 PS, lot 5891A,
10 panel riveted, 4/4 IDE, 7' YSD-1 door, RP roof,
8-rung ladders

This is also Branchline kit #1602 if you can find one.

Tim O'Connor

...anyone know where I might find information or pictures of the D&TS
3000-3049 series of boxcars? All I've managed to find so far is a picture
of an N scale model.

Frank Valoczy
Vancouver, BC


Re: Another boxcar question (D&TS)

Rich C
 

Sorry Frank, no photo but some information.
 
 
Series: 3000-3049
Built: 1949
Length: 40'
Height: 10 ft. 6 in.
Ends: 4/4 Improved Dreadnaught ends with the rolling pin taper
Sides: 10 panel riveted
Doors: 7 foot Youngstown, with side reinforcements
Roof: Rectangular panel
 
 Further reading and info:
 
There is a Bob's Photos photo of D&TSL car no. 3019, c. '65. It had 4/4 Improved Dreadnaught ends with the rolling pin taper, I think a rectangular panel roof, and a 6 or 7 foot wide Youngstown door with wide recessed seams. The car had 10 panel riveted sides, with a side sill reinforcement under the door (probably a later addition). The car was an orange-yellow with red lettering, and possibly a galvanized roof. Over the reporting marks was "Expressway For Industry" slogan.

In Classic Freight Cars, Vol. I, there was a James Marcus c. '82 photo of car no. 3010. This car, at this point, had been rebuilt with roof hatches to carry loose granulars, classified LC. In 1958, a total of 11 cars had been so converted (nos. 3005, 3008, 3010, 3012, 3023, 3027, 3045-3049).

Rich Christie

--- On Tue, 1/26/10, Frank Valoczy <destron@vcn.bc.ca> wrote:


From: Frank Valoczy <destron@vcn.bc.ca>
Subject: [STMFC] Another boxcar question (D&TS)
To: stmfc@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 9:06 PM


 




Just one more question for the time being...

...anyone know where I might find information or pictures of the D&TS
3000-3049 series of boxcars? All I've managed to find so far is a picture
of an N scale model.

Frank Valoczy
Vancouver, BC











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A Data Lettering Question

Eric Hansmann
 

I have lettering conundrum that is stalling progress on a few recent car shop builds. I have settled on modeling late 1926. Rolling stock, locos and other modeling elements will be built to reflect a November 1926 timeframe. In 1926, the ARA approved new recommendations for car data lettering that would take effect in 1927. I made a PDF of the 1920-1926 lettering guide and the 1927 lettering guide. The 2.2 MB file can be accessed here so you may understand the differences:
http://www.hansmanns.org/ARA_lettering_guidelines_1920_+_1927.pdf

I know many Westerfield decals for freight cars of that era have the proper detail, but that may be the only vendor with correct-for-1926 decals. Has anyone else faced this difficulty when modeling the 1920-1927 period?

I have found Rail Graphics has generic data sets available. One for 1900-1920s:
http://www.railgraphicsdecals.com/h107.jpg

And one for 1920-1940s:
http://www.railgraphicsdecals.com/h108.jpg

Many box cars, gondolas and hoppers of 1926 were of different height and length combinations. Replacing individual dimensions on many lines will be necessary to accuratly letter a variety of freight cars. Has anyone discovered an easier solution? As an example, F&C recently released the ARA 1923 single sheathed box car, which the L&N had two thousand of by late 1926. The provided decals are for a later period. What would be the fix to do correct lettering for 1926?

Is there a need for a new decal product to make this easier for modelers of the 1920s? Images of various common cars can be collected then extract and clean up the data to make artwork for new decal sets. A few different box car data sets could fit onto one sheet. It may encourage easier prototype modeling of the 1920s era and into the 1930s as some freight cars wore the older data style for many years.

I have posted this to other YahooGroups focussed on the decades before WWII, but received only one suggestion. Any thoughts or suggestions from the STMFC bunch?

Eric


Eric Hansmann
Chagrin Falls, Ohio
Starting over in a new home:
http://designbuildop.hansmanns.org/


Another boxcar question (D&TS)

Frank Valoczy <destron@...>
 

Just one more question for the time being...

...anyone know where I might find information or pictures of the D&TS
3000-3049 series of boxcars? All I've managed to find so far is a picture
of an N scale model.

Frank Valoczy
Vancouver, BC


Re: CNW 1946 GATC boxcar help

Tim Meyer
 

Tim,
From color matching I did 20 years ago, lot 3255 matched a mix of 3
parts Scalecoat #2 and 1 part Scalecoat #13. In earlier discussion with
Jerry Glow, I messed up and specified a code that I assigned for one of
the paint mixes (S11) instead of providing the actual formula. Sorry
for the confusion, so this will hopefully clear up the Scalecoat #11
that I erroneously specified to Jerry. In general terms, all of the box
car paint samples for CNW from 1943 to 1948 were oxide in color,
however, there was some variability in the shades. Some matched
Scalecoat paint mixes, some matched Accupaint colors, and some matched
Floquil mixes.
Regards,
Ed Hawkins
Thanks for the help. The 1946 GATC cars should use the same color.

Tim


Re: Freight Transportation Books - Free for the cost of shipping

Jay Styron
 

These might fit well in the collection of the San Diego Model Railroad Museum Library, and they would be available to researchers. How much to ship?
-Jay Styron

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "proto48er" <atkott@...> wrote:

Guys -

I have been cleaning out the bookshelves to make room for the many great new freight car books that have been published lately (thanks to Thompson, Hendrickson, Karig, et al.)

I have 45 pounds of freight transportation books and publications that I will send FREE to anyone who wants them, if they will just pay for the shipping!

A 16 inch-high stack of 15 hardback books were from the collection of Edwin A. Starr, a professor of transportation at Texas Christian University in Ft Worth, Texas. The titles include books on ICC Trafic Management, Transportation Law, ICC Traffic Law, 1961 ICC Annual Reports, and a book, Interpretation of Freight Tariffs which was authored by Mr. Starr himself, and signed by his widow.

The remaining soft-bound volumes are freight tariffs from the southwest area and a volume entitled Principles of Land Transportation. This soft-bound stack is 14 inches high!

The books are mostly from the 1950's up to 1961. The freight tariffs range into the 1970's.

If anyone here is crazy enough to want to understand freight routing, tariffs, and the workings of the ICC, this pile will keep you "off the street" for a while!

PM me. I just HATE to throw arything away!

A.T. Kott


Freight Transportation Books - Free for the cost of shipping

proto48er
 

Guys -

I have been cleaning out the bookshelves to make room for the many great new freight car books that have been published lately (thanks to Thompson, Hendrickson, Karig, et al.)

I have 45 pounds of freight transportation books and publications that I will send FREE to anyone who wants them, if they will just pay for the shipping!

A 16 inch-high stack of 15 hardback books were from the collection of Edwin A. Starr, a professor of transportation at Texas Christian University in Ft Worth, Texas. The titles include books on ICC Trafic Management, Transportation Law, ICC Traffic Law, 1961 ICC Annual Reports, and a book, Interpretation of Freight Tariffs which was authored by Mr. Starr himself, and signed by his widow.

The remaining soft-bound volumes are freight tariffs from the southwest area and a volume entitled Principles of Land Transportation. This soft-bound stack is 14 inches high!

The books are mostly from the 1950's up to 1961. The freight tariffs range into the 1970's.

If anyone here is crazy enough to want to understand freight routing, tariffs, and the workings of the ICC, this pile will keep you "off the street" for a while!

PM me. I just HATE to throw arything away!

A.T. Kott

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