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Re: Photos of interest

Schuyler Larrabee
 

Bob also brings EVERYTHING to the Cocoa Beach meet, and I believe to Naperville too. He has an email address which I believe is bobsphoto.train.@yahoo.com . If you email, he will bring the appropriate volumes of photos to the show you are going to attend. I am fairly sure that the telephone number I have for him is no longer the correct one.

SGL


Bob's Photo is out of Wallingford, KY. He has a fantastic collection of freight car photos . . . most from the 40 and 50s. Remember, $7 for B&Ws and $10 for color photos is not out of the normal range these days. You might want to call him ahead of time if you are looking for specific railroads and you are not in their territory. He usually brings a van's worth to shows. He and Jay Williams (Indiana) always seem to have something new it seems. In the mid-west Rich Burg is back in it again and Bob Lorenz sometimes shows up.

Who else has freight car photos that might include those of the Kentucky and West Virginia coal hauling railroads in the 1930-50s?

Al Kresse

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OK I need to ask. I have seen the reference to Bob's photos. What or who? What is available?

Thanks

Tim


$5 for a color 8x10 print is a lot cheaper than Bob's!

Good thing Bob's collection is not online, or a lot of
us would go broke!

Tim O'Connor
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Re: Photos of interest

water.kresse@...
 

Bob's Photo is out of Wallingford, KY.  He has a fantastic collection of freight car photos . . . most from the 40 and 50s.  Remember, $7 for B&Ws and $10 for color photos is not out of the normal range these days.  You might want to call him ahead of time if you are looking for specific railroads and you are not in their territory.  He usually brings a van's worth to shows.  He and Jay Williams (Indiana) always seem to have something new it seems.  In the mid-west Rich Burg is back in it again and Bob Lorenz sometimes shows up.



Who else has freight car photos that might include those of the Kentucky and West Virginia coal hauling railroads in the 1930-50s?



Al Kresse

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Subject: [STMFC] Re: Photos of interest

OK I need to ask. I have seen the reference to Bob's photos. What or who? What is available?

Thanks

Tim




$5 for a color 8x10 print is a lot cheaper than Bob's!

Good thing Bob's collection is not online, or a lot of
us would go broke!

Tim O'Connor



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Re: Kadee Scale Coupler Operational Reliablity

Scott Seders
 

That is what I thought when I first heard of his troubles.

I would have thought had there been a significant problem with scale size couplers there would have been an outcry about it on the net.

Scott Seders


Schuyler Larrabee wrote:

Scott, your friend needs to improve his track. 58s and their cousins operate fine on my club layout and the improvement in appearance makes the care in trackwork worthwhile.

YMMV, of course.

SGL



I have been using Kadee scale couplers on all of my rolling stock. Currently, I do not have a layout.

I have a friend (who is a very good modeler) who claims that he is having difficulty with scale couplers uncoupling where there is any height irregularity in the track. As such he as gone back to using number 5 couplers.

What is anyone else experiencing?

Thanks,

Scott Seders









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Re: Kadee Scale Coupler Operational Reliablity

Schuyler Larrabee
 

Scott, your friend needs to improve his track. 58s and their cousins operate fine on my club layout and the improvement in appearance makes the care in trackwork worthwhile.

YMMV, of course.

SGL



I have been using Kadee scale couplers on all of my rolling stock. Currently, I do not have a layout.

I have a friend (who is a very good modeler) who claims that he is having difficulty with scale couplers uncoupling where there is any height irregularity in the track. As such he as gone back to using number 5 couplers.

What is anyone else experiencing?

Thanks,

Scott Seders

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Re: Photos of interest

Tim Meyer
 

OK I need to ask. I have seen the reference to Bob's photos. What or who? What is available?

Thanks

Tim


$5 for a color 8x10 print is a lot cheaper than Bob's!

Good thing Bob's collection is not online, or a lot of
us would go broke!

Tim O'Connor


News on Ed DeRouin

Gary Roe
 

To All,

I received the below message just a little while ago from another list. I
know that, like me, a number of you know Ed; and will want to know of this
development, even tho it is very bad news.

gary roe
quincy, illinois




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From: CBQ@yahoogroups.com [mailto:CBQ@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dave
Lotz
Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 2:17 PM
To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com; brhslist@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [CBQ] News on Ed DeRouin




Hi all,

I have some sad news regarding Ed DeRouin, fellow Burlington fan, author and
publisher. Ed has been either hospitalized or in a care facility since
Christmas Eve and has recently been diagnosed with a very rare bone cancer.
The initial plan was for radiation and chemotherapy, however Ed had a
particularly bad reaction to the chemo drug and it has been decided to stop
the treatment and make him as comfortable as possible. Ed is resting
comfortably in Illinois Masonic Hospital, 836 West Wellington Avenue,
Chicago, IL 60657. He is very tired and is under the effects of pain
management medications. If you are considering a visit, call me and I will
provide the number you need to call to check if the time you are planning to
visit would be a good one. Your prayers, thoughts, emails and cards are
appreciated by Ed and his family during this difficult time.

Dave Lotz
(912) 484-4974


Re: PFE R-40-14 UP Herald

Dick Harley
 

On Tue Feb 9, 2010 John Hile asked:

>>Am I correct in assuming the non-aluminum PFE R-40-14 reefers wore
the UP Overland herald when new?
<<

To which Richard Hendrickson replied, stating that he had a 12/45
photo of an R-40-14 without the "Overland" banner on the UP medallion.

While I do not have a photo (in fact, I have darn few R-40-14 photos
compared to R-40-10s and R-40-20s), I do have some evidence that I
think is rather compelling, which leads me to believe that the
R-40-14s did have the "Overland" banner on the UP medallion when they
were new.

First of all, the UP medallion was, of course, controlled by the
Union Pacific. Their corporate website has a history of the UP
Medallion. For this era, see:
http://www.uprr.com/aboutup/history/uplogo/logo07.shtml
This site says that the medallion without the "Overland" banner was
not developed until May 1942. My collection of UP Timetables pretty
much confirms that. The January 25, 1942 (revised to 2-15-42) UP
public timetable still has the banner. I don't have any of the April
5, 1942 issues, but the website has a photo of one showing the "Pearl
Harbor" medallion on the cover. The July 1, 1942 public timetable
has the medallion without the banner.

Next, the drawing for the UP medallion (to be used on refrigerator
cars) without the "Overland" banner is shown in Phil Da Costa's book
on page 36. It is UP drawing 303-C-3073 rev B, issued in July 1942.
The revision note mentions redrawing the medallion and omitting "The
Overland Route".

Finally, the PFE book says that the R-40-14s (#44701 to 45700) were
built by PC&F in 1941. I have copies of car cards for 44739 (built
8-11-41) and 45698 (built 12-20-41) that put the R-40-14 delivery in
the second half of 1941.

So, we have delivery of all the R-40-14 class at a time when UP
itself was still actively using "The Overland Route" banner on its
medallion. The R-40-14 class delivery was also completed before a
drawing was prepared for a refrigerator car UP medallion without the
banner. That leads me to believe the "Overland" banner was present
on the R-40-14 class cars.

Like I said at the start, I don't have a photo to confirm it, but I
believe the UP medallion WITH "The Overland Route" banner was used on
the PFE R-40-14 cars when new. Certainly, photos contrary to that
would be new evidence that would cause me to rethink that position.

Other evidence, thoughts and opinions are certainly welcome.

Cheers,
Dick Harley
Laguna Beach, CA


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Re: Kadee Scale Coupler Operational Reliablity

James F. Brewer <jfbrewer@...>
 

Actually, regardless of what coupler you use, your track should be as smooth as possible.  I am using  #5, 58 and 78, and recently decided to standardize on the Kadee "scale" whisker coupler and IM semi-scale wheelsets.  I have not had any problem with the couplers in operation; they will uncouple using a skewer just like the larger #5s.



Jim Brewer

Glenwood MD


Re: Kadee Scale Coupler Operational Reliablity

Mark
 

They will have trouble on longer cars or engines over abrupt track changes. Happens very rarely and still prefer the scale couplers.

Mark Morgan

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From: sseders@comcast.net <sseders@comcast.net>
Subject: [STMFC] Kadee Scale Coupler Operational Reliablity
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, February 10, 2010, 11:00 AM







 













I have been using Kadee scale couplers on all of my rolling stock.  Currently, I do not have a layout.



I have a friend (who is a very good modeler) who claims that he is having difficulty with scale couplers uncoupling where there is any height irregularity in the track.  As such he as gone back to using number 5 couplers.



What is anyone else experiencing?   



Thanks,

Scott Seders



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Re: Standard weight

Tim O'Connor
 

Clark

I think all common carrier rates other than tank cars were based on
weight (and commodity, and other factors -- like loose, boxed, crated,
in barrels, refrigerated, etc)

Tank car loads were based on gallonage AFAIK.

Tim O'Connor

At 2/10/2010 09:37 AM Wednesday, you wrote:
There was a thread some years ago about "standard weight" carloads (for lack
of the correct term),. Like grain loads?

For modeling purposes. I weigh all loads that come out of my packinghouse.
In reality would by-products be weighed. Or would an agreement be made
between the customer and railroad for a standard weight? For say, hides or
tankage???

Thanks for any help : ))
Clark Propst
Mason City Iowa


Re: Car Builder's Dictionaries online

Tim O'Connor
 

Pssst. MWSnap. Free download. It's Awesomeware. :-)

Tim O'Connor

At 2/10/2010 09:17 AM Wednesday, you wrote:
How about just using Adobe Acrobat? It takes care of all those needs.

Jerry Michels


Re: Kadee Scale Coupler Operational Reliablity

Tim O'Connor
 

There are now many brands of Kadee-style couplers out there,
including some "scale" (P:HO) sizes. I have found that it's more
important than ever to have all couplers at the height prescribed
by the Kadee coupler height gauge. The only coupler I'm definitely
tossing is the original oversize Accumate (not the scale Accumate)
which is consistently problematic with the new smaller couplers of
all brands. Atlas continues to use the huge Accumates on its new
RTR models!

Tim O'Connor

I'm going to assume he is referring to 58's and 78's or the scale whisker couplers (number forgotten) They are smaller, (duh) so they are less tolerate of dips and humps in the track. but they operate fine on layouts as long as the height is correctly set. This often includes a 0.005 shim in the coupler box to take the droop out. We've been using #5's 58's and 78's for years on the club layout.
brian carlson
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I have a friend (who is a very good modeler) who claims that he is having difficulty with scale couplers uncoupling


Re: Kadee Scale Coupler Operational Reliablity

Brian Carlson
 

I'm going to assume he is referring to 58's and 78's or the scale whisker couplers (number forgotten) They are smaller, (duh) so they are less tolerate of dips and humps in the track. but they operate fine on layouts as long as the height is correctly set. This often includes a 0.005 shim in the coupler box to take the droop out. We've been using #5's 58's and 78's for years on the club layout.
brian carlson

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From: sseders@comcast.net <sseders@comcast.net>
Subject: [STMFC] Kadee Scale Coupler Operational Reliablity
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, February 10, 2010, 11:00 AM


 





I have been using Kadee scale couplers on all of my rolling stock.  Currently, I do not have a layout.

I have a friend (who is a very good modeler) who claims that he is having difficulty with scale couplers uncoupling where there is any height irregularity in the track.  As such he as gone back to using number 5 couplers.

What is anyone else experiencing?   

Thanks,
Scott Seders

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Kadee Scale Coupler Operational Reliablity

Scott Seders
 

I have been using Kadee scale couplers on all of my rolling stock.  Currently, I do not have a layout.



I have a friend (who is a very good modeler) who claims that he is having difficulty with scale couplers uncoupling where there is any height irregularity in the track.  As such he as gone back to using number 5 couplers.


What is anyone else experiencing?   



Thanks,
Scott Seders

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Re: Models of TOFC

Kenneth Montero
 

George,

Thank you.

Ken Montero

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Subject: [STMFC] Re: Models of TOFC








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Tim,

What's BGFCL? Do you have a website address for it?
Not Tim, but it is another yahoo group BBFCL. Just go to the yahoo group page and search. The title comes from Baby Boomer Freight Car List. Link is as follows:

http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/bbfcl/?yguid=174255035

George Simmons
Dry Prong, LA




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Re: Standard weight

rockroll50401 <cepropst@...>
 

Looks like these weigh tickets answered some queations!

CGW weigh tickets from Marshalltown Iowa

1-4-68 CGW 1155 (Gondola) Scrap Iron, Tare 52500-Net 139860, From M
Gervich & Sons Inc. To Chicago IL., WB15500

1-8-68 CGW 4673 (X29 style in Hide service) GS Hides, Tare 46000-Net
92840, From Marshall Pack Co., To Woburn Mass., WB 15518

1-8-68 CGW 5616 (PS1 Box Car) Mowers, Tare 46900-Net 7660, From
Cooper Mfg., To Rochester NY., WB15517

1-9-68 CGW 1251 (Gondola) Scrap Iron, Tare 52200-Net 127320, From M
Gervich & Sons Inc. To Waterloo IA., WB 15529

1-19-68 GATX 68216 (Tank Car) PS Lard, Tare 44560-Net 61020, From
Swift Co., To Howey LA., WB 15595

1-31-68 SWTX 5643 (Tank Car) PS Lard, Tare 41980-Net 60580, From
Swift Co., To Howey LA., WB 15641

Clark Propst


Re: Models of TOFC

George Simmons
 

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, va661midlo@... wrote:

Tim,

What's BGFCL? Do you have a website address for it?
Not Tim, but it is another yahoo group BBFCL. Just go to the yahoo group page and search. The title comes from Baby Boomer Freight Car List. Link is as follows:

http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/bbfcl/?yguid=174255035

George Simmons
Dry Prong, LA


Standard weight

Clark Propst <cepropst@...>
 

There was a thread some years ago about "standard weight" carloads (for lack of the correct term),. Like grain loads?

For modeling purposes. I weigh all loads that come out of my packinghouse. In reality would by-products be weighed. Or would an agreement be made between the customer and railroad for a standard weight? For say, hides or tankage???

Thanks for any help : ))
Clark Propst
Mason City Iowa


Re: Models of TOFC

Kenneth Montero
 

Tim,

What's BGFCL? Do you have a website address for it?

Ken Montero

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From: "Tim O'Connor" <timboconnor@comcast.net>
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 9, 2010 11:58:35 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Models of TOFC






There has been a fair number of TOFC modeling articles over the
last 30 or years. (Yep, it's been 30 years since Mainline Modeler
first appeared!)

Mont has been a prolific writer of course -- see Mainline Modeler,
January 1986 where he describes modeling 5 different Monon trailers.
Also Mainline Modeler, October 1996 for another TOFC article from
Mont.

TOFC generates little interest on STMFC since so many people are
not interested in anything so "modern". It's much more lively over
on the BBFCL when it comes to piggybacks and autoracks... :-)

Tim O'Connor

At 2/8/2010 09:28 PM Monday, you wrote:
The March 2010 Issue #31 of "Model Freightways" which deals with
modeling trucks and trailers has an article by Mont Switzer on
Trailers on Flat Cars and other truck models.

A link to MF can be found at: www.ppw-aline.com/modelfreightways.htm

I highly recommend this little magazine for transition era modelers
wanting to know what trucks they need to be loading into and
unloading from their boxcars, flats, gons, reefers, etc. Great fun!

Bill Welch



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