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Re: new decal sets added

jerryglow2
 

While the text file is still there, I've added a listing as a web page:
http://home.comcast.net/~jerryglow/decals.html
which is easier to read and will allow for links to articles and sample model shots.

Jerry Glow

--- In STMFC@..., jerryglow@... wrote:

I've added several new sets to the decals I've been doing see message #88242 on previous sets or http://home.comcast.net/~jerryglow/decals.txt for updated list.

Jerry Glow
http://home.comcast.net/~jerryglow/modeling/
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freight (was Re: J&L 3 dome tank car (the end?))

Tim O'Connor
 

Denny

Do you remember the Yak Fat rate case? Trains ran an illustation
of the Yak Fat Rack Flat... Coelacanth oil is less interesting as
commodities go, shipped in 1 Qt cans packed 24 to a box....

Tim O'Connor

At 3/25/2010 10:28 PM Thursday, you wrote:
...how *was* coelacanth oil shipped over Sherman Hill?
Wow! What a list! Is there yet no rail freight haulage subject that is beyond the grasp of this group?

MIke.........?

Denny
Re: J&L 3 dome tank car (the end?)

Denny Anspach <danspach@...>
 

...how *was* coelacanth oil shipped over Sherman Hill?
Wow! What a list! Is there yet no rail freight haulage subject that is beyond the grasp of this group?

MIke.........?

Denny


Denny S. Anspach, MD
Sacramento
Re: Searching For A Modeler

Brian Carlson
 

actually it sounds like Stan Rydarowicz. He often has SFRD, PFE, and Fruit
Growers company reefers. No email, just regular mail.



http://www.sunshinekits.com/sunimages/sunstan.pdf



Brian J. Carlson, P.E.

Cheektowaga NY



From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of
WILLIAM PARDIE
Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 11:28 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Searching For A Modeler







AT the Naperville Meet last October there was a gentleman who had a
great selection of models on display. He was located at the end of
the table to the left of the door as you entered.
Most of the models were Santa Fe (refers, boxcars and gons). I
photographed many of the models and finally met the gentleman on the
last day as he was packing up. I'm afraid that I
failed to get his name. If anyone knows who this is I would like to
get more information on some of his models as I found them to be very
inspirational.

Thanks:

Bill Pardie
Re: steel, rust, technical markings (was Color Photo of truck assembiles)

Mark
 

At our mill a similar chalk is used to show heat number and weight!

Mark Morgan USW@AKSteel/ Mansfield Works

--- On Thu, 3/25/10, Timothy Barney <tbarney@...> wrote:

From: Timothy Barney <tbarney@...>
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: steel, rust, technical markings (was Color Photo of truck assembiles)
To: STMFC@...
Date: Thursday, March 25, 2010, 9:40 PM







 









Tim O'Connor wrote:

Floquil "rail brown" has always seemed somewhat yellowish to me. I
think it is a good color for light dusting along the edges of steel,
in addition to more orange-reddish shades.
At the Springfield show, Thoroughbred Models (a custom painter) had
cars with plate steel loads that were nicely rusted, with all kinds
of technical data written in bright white ink on them. I have no
idea what those markings meant, but I have seen them before. Anyone
know where I can find examples of this online (i.e. pictures) with any
explanation of the markings?
I asked how he made the marks, he said it was a white ink technical
pen from Michael's, but I've been unable to find such a pen at the store.
But I found this white ink pen online:
http://www.jetpens. com/images/ uni_um-153. 1.jpg
Tim O'Connor
The markings most likely are identification and traceability data that

link to plant records of metallurgical testing, production batch

information and the like. As an example, they're written directly on

the hot slabs are they are cut coming off of the rolling line (usually a

3 or 4 high rolling mill) with a special chalk that isn't affected by

the heat of the still cherry-red metal.



Tim Barney























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Re: steel, rust, technical markings (was Color Photo of truck assembiles)

tbarney2004
 

Tim O'Connor wrote:
Floquil "rail brown" has always seemed somewhat yellowish to me. I
think it is a good color for light dusting along the edges of steel,
in addition to more orange-reddish shades.

At the Springfield show, Thoroughbred Models (a custom painter) had
cars with plate steel loads that were nicely rusted, with all kinds
of technical data written in bright white ink on them. I have no
idea what those markings meant, but I have seen them before. Anyone
know where I can find examples of this online (i.e. pictures) with any
explanation of the markings?

I asked how he made the marks, he said it was a white ink technical
pen from Michael's, but I've been unable to find such a pen at the store.
But I found this white ink pen online:

http://www.jetpens.com/images/uni_um-153.1.jpg

Tim O'Connor

The markings most likely are identification and traceability data that link to plant records of metallurgical testing, production batch information and the like. As an example, they're written directly on the hot slabs are they are cut coming off of the rolling line (usually a 3 or 4 high rolling mill) with a special chalk that isn't affected by the heat of the still cherry-red metal.

Tim Barney
Kato ACF Covered Hoppers

StephenK
 

Last weekend I picked up two sets of Kato covered hopper kits at a local trainshow for very little $$$. One is Wabash and one is Erie. I searched the group but was unable to get answers to two questions. First, are the Kato couplers worth using, or should I used the Accumates that I generally use? Also, since I really don't need three of each of these(which is why I never bought these before--at the regular price), I am looking for other prototypes/decals to paint these. I found some nice sets from Prime Mover Decals for EL, but would like a few other alternatives. Any suggestions?

Thanks in advance,

Steve Kay
Re: Any St. Louis RPM meeting in 2010?

rockroll50401 <cepropst@...>
 

Keep in mind John said he'd come to Iowa if I put one on ; )

Clark Propst
Re: Any St. Louis RPM meeting in 2010?

golden1014
 

Hi Jim,

No sir, I'm not planning on hosting a St. Louis RPM this year. I am living in Indiana now and am changing careers this summer, and won't have the time to do it again. Technically, anybody can host a meet---and I don't "own" St. Louis. If somebody wants to put together a new St. Louis meet I'm sure people will come. Hell, even I'd go!

John Golden
Bloomington, IN

--- In STMFC@..., "Jim" <sjogden@...> wrote:

I was wondering if there was a St. Louis area RPM meeting scheduled for late summer 2010. I know one was not held last year because of work conflicts for one of the organizers, John Golden.

Jim Ogden
Fort Worth, TX
Re: Color Photo of truck assembiles

Roger Hinman <rhinman@...>
 

Not that I know of; my advice would be to try and contact the group that posted it. I believe the shot is credited to the Rochester chapter of the NRHS


Roger Hinman

On Mar 24, 2010, at 7:00 PM, Tim O'Connor wrote:

Roger

Is there any way to see larger images? They are so small I can barely
make out what I'm looking at.

Tim O

At 3/24/2010 06:38 PM Wednesday, you wrote:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/rgvrrm/4335741439/in/set-72157623368041768/

An interesting shot of the East Rochester car shops with some interesting weathering of the truck components


Roger Hinman
Re: RTR models

Bill Welch
 

Dear Clark:

I don't know if this helpful to you but with items that are secured with plastic solvents, the same solvent can be applied to the joint and it will soften it enough to back the part out, a ladder for example. Because Testors is slow working, it works well for this. This works best if you can work from the inside of course.

I should add I have no idea what the off-shore assemblers use for an adhesive.

Because I am colour blind, matching paints is impossible for me, especially the various tones of Oxide, so I have very few RTR as I am always replacing something. I did buy L&N and Clinchfield IM covered hoppers but I figure I can match the black and grey involved.

Good luck!

Bill Welch

--- In STMFC@..., "rockroll50401" <cepropst@...> wrote:



I guess I didn't make myself clear. I'm interested in exactly how guys replaced parts beings everything isd glued together.
Clark Propst
Re: steel, rust, technical markings (was Color Photo of truck assembiles)

Tim O'Connor
 

Floquil "rail brown" has always seemed somewhat yellowish to me. I
think it is a good color for light dusting along the edges of steel,
in addition to more orange-reddish shades.

At the Springfield show, Thoroughbred Models (a custom painter) had
cars with plate steel loads that were nicely rusted, with all kinds
of technical data written in bright white ink on them. I have no
idea what those markings meant, but I have seen them before. Anyone
know where I can find examples of this online (i.e. pictures) with any
explanation of the markings?

I asked how he made the marks, he said it was a white ink technical
pen from Michael's, but I've been unable to find such a pen at the store.
But I found this white ink pen online:

http://www.jetpens.com/images/uni_um-153.1.jpg

Tim O'Connor

At 3/25/2010 03:48 PM Thursday, you wrote:
Yea OK. I will agree with the yellow. It is a very bright yellow/orange that I have seen.

Kenny Broomfield




________________________________
From: Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Thu, March 25, 2010 12:33:01 PM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Color Photo of truck assembiles

�
Kenny Broomfield wrote:
I work as a Carman for the Kansas City Southern Railroad. We get
brand new wheels in to the shop all the time and they will start out
as a grey metal, than change to a bright orange rust, next to a dull
orange more of a rust color, finally they will change to a dark
metal almost black, rust. This change process takes about 3-5 years
for the entire process.
Good description and about the right time frame. I'd only add
that the earliest stages of the rusting can give a very yellowish
coating, before the deep orange. You can see this in the Flickr photo
in Roger Hinman's link. I have used this color to lightly dust gondola
loads of "steel gray" sheet or structural shapes, and particularly to
rub on edges and corners, where the protective gray oxide tends to
break and permit rusting to start there first.

Tony Thompson
Re: Color Photo of truck assembiles

kenneth broomfield
 

Yea OK. I will agree with the yellow. It is a very bright yellow/orange that I have seen.

Kenny Broomfield 




________________________________
From: Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Thu, March 25, 2010 12:33:01 PM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Color Photo of truck assembiles

 
Kenny Broomfield wrote:
I work as a Carman for the Kansas City Southern Railroad. We get
brand new wheels in to the shop all the time and they will start out
as a grey metal, than change to a bright orange rust, next to a dull
orange more of a rust color, finally they will change to a dark
metal almost black, rust. This change process takes about 3-5 years
for the entire process.
Good description and about the right time frame. I'd only add
that the earliest stages of the rusting can give a very yellowish
coating, before the deep orange. You can see this in the Flickr photo
in Roger Hinman's link. I have used this color to lightly dust gondola
loads of "steel gray" sheet or structural shapes, and particularly to
rub on edges and corners, where the protective gray oxide tends to
break and permit rusting to start there first.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress. com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@signaturep ress.com
Publishers of books on railroad history
Re: Color Photo of truck assembiles

Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
 

Kenny Broomfield wrote:
I work as a Carman for the Kansas City Southern Railroad. We get brand new wheels in to the shop all the time and they will start out as a grey metal, than change to a bright orange rust, next to a dull orange more of a rust color, finally they will change to a dark metal almost black, rust. This change process takes about 3-5 years for the entire process.
Good description and about the right time frame. I'd only add that the earliest stages of the rusting can give a very yellowish coating, before the deep orange. You can see this in the Flickr photo in Roger Hinman's link. I have used this color to lightly dust gondola loads of "steel gray" sheet or structural shapes, and particularly to rub on edges and corners, where the protective gray oxide tends to break and permit rusting to start there first.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@...
Publishers of books on railroad history
Re: RTR models

Gatwood, Elden J SAD
 

Guys;

I had a great deal of problems disassembling some RTR IM and RC cars, so if
it didn't come off with gentle persuasion, ended up breaking or cutting off
the parts, then built up whatever I wanted as a replacement. I had to mess
around to find paint matches. Vertical rod handbrake assemblies and stirrup
steps in plastic just end up getting broken off anyway, so one should do it
anyway, and the u/f upgrades are all good, too.

I also agree; the Kadee cars are such a pleasure to work with, one should
give them an award just for being so innovative. The PS-1 box car I
disassembled just went right back together after modification with no issues
at all.

Elden Gatwood

-----Original Message-----
From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of
William Keene
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 10:53 AM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: RTR models

Good morning Clark,

I do not believe you will find any glue used on the Kadee boxcar. When I had
to disassemble one a while back I was having trouble understanding their
assembly methods... the "how did they do that?" kind of question. I went to
the Kadee website and downloaded a copy of the assembly instructions. Then
working backwards converted the boxcar into a box of parts. A lot of thought
went into these cars.

I do not believe that I have any RTR Red Caboose cars on the shelf so can not
comment on these.

Bill Keene
Irvine, CA


On Mar 25, 2010, at 6:36 AM, rockroll50401 wrote:



I guess I didn't make myself clear. I'm interested in exactly how guys
replaced parts beings everything isd glued together.
Clark Propst







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Re: Searching For A Modeler

charles slater
 

They wern't mine, I only had cars in Martin's display case in the sales room.

Charlie Slater



To: STMFC@...
From: buygone@...
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 22:17:49 -0700
Subject: RE: [STMFC] Re: Searching For A Modeler





Bill:

I was not at Naperville, but it sounds like Charlie Slater of Bakersfield.
If so he is on this list and might reply.

Paul C. Koehler

_____

From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of
WILLIAM PARDIE
Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 8:28 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Searching For A Modeler

AT the Naperville Meet last October there was a gentleman who had a
great selection of models on display. He was located at the end of
the table to the left of the door as you entered.
Most of the models were Santa Fe (refers, boxcars and gons). I
photographed many of the models and finally met the gentleman on the
last day as he was packing up. I'm afraid that I
failed to get his name. If anyone knows who this is I would like to
get more information on some of his models as I found them to be very
inspirational.

Thanks:

Bill Pardie







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Re: J&L 3 dome tank car (the end?)

billsoman
 

Yahoo Groups has had serious issues with their Search function for nearly two years. It's erratic - sometimes you'll get results from just half an archive, sometimes certain terms won't "hit", sometimes everything's fine. One member can successfully search a term, and the next member gets no results 5 minutes later.

All the more reason to be kind to repeat questioners, newby or otherwise.

Yahoo is well aware but has missed several promised deadlines. They recently posted a statement that help is on the way: http://www.ygroupsblog.com/blog/2010/02/22/update-on-message-search-issue/ I guess I'll believe it when I see it.

--- Bill Sornsin, Seattle

--- In STMFC@..., "Schuyler Larrabee" wrote:

STMFC colleagues,

Garth's experience mirrors mine. There have been three or four times that I
have tried to research some non-arcane information that I KNOW has been
discussed on the list and been unable to rouse anything more than a few
messages which are of questionable relevance. And I have tried numerous
variations on the search terms, single words, getting me hundreds of hits
and are therefore useless, or onesies, twosies, and those too are not worth
the effort.
Any St. Louis RPM meeting in 2010?

Jim Ogden
 

I was wondering if there was a St. Louis area RPM meeting scheduled for late summer 2010. I know one was not held last year because of work conflicts for one of the organizers, John Golden.

Jim Ogden
Fort Worth, TX
Re: RTR models

William Keene <wakeene@...>
 

Good morning Clark,

I do not believe you will find any glue used on the Kadee boxcar. When I had to disassemble one a while back I was having trouble understanding their assembly methods... the "how did they do that?" kind of question. I went to the Kadee website and downloaded a copy of the assembly instructions. Then working backwards converted the boxcar into a box of parts. A lot of thought went into these cars.

I do not believe that I have any RTR Red Caboose cars on the shelf so can not comment on these.

Bill Keene
Irvine, CA

On Mar 25, 2010, at 6:36 AM, rockroll50401 wrote:



I guess I didn't make myself clear. I'm interested in exactly how guys replaced parts beings everything isd glued together.
Clark Propst
Re: RTR models

Mark
 

I try to carefully slide an xacto knife under the box on an imported car with success. Have to be careful with all the detail on them. Worst one was atlas with there frame. Since my library is not extensive some are just put on the layout without work, Kadee mostly.
Mark Morgan

From: rockroll50401 <cepropst@...>
Subject: [STMFC] Re: RTR models
To: STMFC@...
Date: Thursday, March 25, 2010, 9:36 AM
















 













I guess I didn't make myself clear. I'm interested in exactly how guys replaced parts beings everything isd glued together.

Clark Propst
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