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Re: Westerfield AC&F Builder's Photos and Lot List Question

jim peters
 

Which RMC's you looking for mo/yr . . .



Jim P

Coquitlam, BC



To: STMFC@...
From: bakert@...
Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 14:07:34 -0400
Subject: RE: [STMFC] Westerfield AC&F Builder's Photos and Lot List Question





John, or other knowledgeable parties:

Some time ago I noted an article about a SOO LINE sawtooth box car in
RMC. The article was helpful, but I understand that the SOO LINE
historical and technical group published a two-part series on SOO LINE
sawtooth box cars. I have tried to obtain copies of the issues
featuring these articles but have learned that they are out of print.

If anyone out there has the two issues featuring the articles, I would
be happy to pay for a photocopy. I would like to do this car in S
scale, and the articles would be helpful for such a project.

Tom

-----Original Message-----
From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of
soccrdad
Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2010 12:05 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] Westerfield AC&F Builder's Photos and Lot List Question

Hello Everyone.

I am slowly getting back into RR modeling after being neck deep into
coaching/board member of a local soccer club for about 20 years. The
last year I have collected a nice beginning library of Soo Line
Historical Magazines and some Soo Line books. And now I see myself
expanding my interests because of how the Soo interacted with The
Detroit & Mackinac via Chief Wawatam (and yes, I do own a copy of "The
Story of A Hand Bomber").

I have also downloaded from Google books a few ORER's & Dictionaries,
which are very interesting and informative.

Ok, my question. I am finding I want to learn more, and I am very
interested in purchasing Westerfield AC&F Builder's Photos and Lot List
for $100.00 (covers 1899 - 1928). Does anyone own one? and how do they
like it?

I have bought a few items from ePay site and when I received the CD...
lets just say the documents were horribly scanned in, and unledgable.

Thank you for your help.

John K.
Saginaw, MI

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Re: MKT "War Emergency" type boxcar body rebuilt on Fishbelly U/F Photos

Richard Hendrickson
 

Bill, this is a B/W print from a Dean Hale color slide, taken when
the car was close to retirement. I have a couple of other partial
photos showing a car painted yellow with black stenciling, which is
how they were painted when new.

Richard Hendrickson



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Re: MKT "War Emergency" type boxcar body rebuilt on Fishbelly U/F Photos

Richard Hendrickson
 

On Mar 28, 2010, at 11:54 AM, Bill Welch wrote:

Are there any known photos available of the MKT rebuilds using the
10' 6" War Emergency boxcar superstructure design on a fishbelly type
U/F? I have a vague memory of seeing a colour photo of one in a
presentation on War Emergency cars years ago at Naperville.
Bill, I have a b/w print I'll send you off-list.

Richard Hendrickson
Re: Westerfield AC&F Builder's Photos and Lot List Question

S hed <shed999@...>
 

The AC&F CD is well worth the cost especially if you are planning to model from the 1890s to the 1930s. If you are going to model in that time frame then the CD is a must have.



I have the CD and I use it all the time when ever I am researching a project. And even though there is a large array of car photos, the CD provides the AC&F car lot listing for even more cars.



- Steve Hedlund, Everett, WA



To: STMFC@...
From: soccrdad525@...
Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 16:04:46 +0000
Subject: [STMFC] Westerfield AC&F Builder's Photos and Lot List Question





Hello Everyone.

I am slowly getting back into RR modeling after being neck deep into coaching/board member of a local soccer club for about 20 years. The last year I have collected a nice beginning library of Soo Line Historical Magazines and some Soo Line books. And now I see myself expanding my interests because of how the Soo interacted with The Detroit & Mackinac via Chief Wawatam (and yes, I do own a copy of "The Story of A Hand Bomber").

I have also downloaded from Google books a few ORER's & Dictionaries, which are very interesting and informative.

Ok, my question. I am finding I want to learn more, and I am very interested in purchasing Westerfield AC&F Builder's Photos and Lot List for $100.00 (covers 1899 - 1928). Does anyone own one? and how do they like it?

I have bought a few items from ePay site and when I received the CD... lets just say the documents were horribly scanned in, and unledgable.

Thank you for your help.

John K.
Saginaw, MI





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Re: Westerfield AC&F Builder's Photos and Lot List Question

Frank Valoczy <destron@...>
 

I too would be interested in finding copies of these articles, same terms
as Tom said (but slightly different purpose). Thanks!

Frank Valoczy
Vancouver, BC

Thomas Baker wrote:

John, or other knowledgeable parties:

Some time ago I noted an article about a SOO LINE sawtooth box car in
RMC. The article was helpful, but I understand that the SOO LINE
historical and technical group published a two-part series on SOO LINE
sawtooth box cars. I have tried to obtain copies of the issues
featuring these articles but have learned that they are out of print.

If anyone out there has the two issues featuring the articles, I would
be happy to pay for a photocopy. I would like to do this car in S
scale, and the articles would be helpful for such a project.

Tom



-----Original Message-----
From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of
soccrdad
Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2010 12:05 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] Westerfield AC&F Builder's Photos and Lot List Question

Hello Everyone.

I am slowly getting back into RR modeling after being neck deep into
coaching/board member of a local soccer club for about 20 years. The
last year I have collected a nice beginning library of Soo Line
Historical Magazines and some Soo Line books. And now I see myself
expanding my interests because of how the Soo interacted with The
Detroit & Mackinac via Chief Wawatam (and yes, I do own a copy of "The
Story of A Hand Bomber").

I have also downloaded from Google books a few ORER's & Dictionaries,
which are very interesting and informative.

Ok, my question. I am finding I want to learn more, and I am very
interested in purchasing Westerfield AC&F Builder's Photos and Lot List
for $100.00 (covers 1899 - 1928). Does anyone own one? and how do they
like it?

I have bought a few items from ePay site and when I received the CD...
lets just say the documents were horribly scanned in, and unledgable.

Thank you for your help.

John K.
Saginaw, MI



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MKT "War Emergency" type boxcar body rebuilt on Fishbelly U/F Photos

Bill Welch
 

Are there any known photos available of the MKT rebuilds using the 10' 6" War Emergency boxcar superstructure design on a fishbelly type U/F? I have a vague memory of seeing a colour photo of one in a presentation on War Emergency cars years ago at Naperville.

Bill Welch
Re: 1:1 resin casting

mike turner <yardcoolieyahoo@...>
 

It's just a natural progression of Jim's age. First HO, then O, now 1:1.
His eyes are finally going... :)

Either that or he forgot to renew his support for SolidWorks...

Jim, nice work.


Mike Turner
Simpsonville, SC 29681
Re: Westerfield AC&F Builder's Photos and Lot List Question

Thomas Baker
 

John, or other knowledgeable parties:

Some time ago I noted an article about a SOO LINE sawtooth box car in
RMC. The article was helpful, but I understand that the SOO LINE
historical and technical group published a two-part series on SOO LINE
sawtooth box cars. I have tried to obtain copies of the issues
featuring these articles but have learned that they are out of print.

If anyone out there has the two issues featuring the articles, I would
be happy to pay for a photocopy. I would like to do this car in S
scale, and the articles would be helpful for such a project.

Tom

-----Original Message-----
From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of
soccrdad
Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2010 12:05 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] Westerfield AC&F Builder's Photos and Lot List Question

Hello Everyone.

I am slowly getting back into RR modeling after being neck deep into
coaching/board member of a local soccer club for about 20 years. The
last year I have collected a nice beginning library of Soo Line
Historical Magazines and some Soo Line books. And now I see myself
expanding my interests because of how the Soo interacted with The
Detroit & Mackinac via Chief Wawatam (and yes, I do own a copy of "The
Story of A Hand Bomber").

I have also downloaded from Google books a few ORER's & Dictionaries,
which are very interesting and informative.

Ok, my question. I am finding I want to learn more, and I am very
interested in purchasing Westerfield AC&F Builder's Photos and Lot List
for $100.00 (covers 1899 - 1928). Does anyone own one? and how do they
like it?

I have bought a few items from ePay site and when I received the CD...
lets just say the documents were horribly scanned in, and unledgable.

Thank you for your help.

John K.
Saginaw, MI



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Westerfield AC&F Builder's Photos and Lot List Question

John Kellett
 

Hello Everyone.

I am slowly getting back into RR modeling after being neck deep into coaching/board member of a local soccer club for about 20 years. The last year I have collected a nice beginning library of Soo Line Historical Magazines and some Soo Line books. And now I see myself expanding my interests because of how the Soo interacted with The Detroit & Mackinac via Chief Wawatam (and yes, I do own a copy of "The Story of A Hand Bomber").

I have also downloaded from Google books a few ORER's & Dictionaries, which are very interesting and informative.

Ok, my question. I am finding I want to learn more, and I am very interested in purchasing Westerfield AC&F Builder's Photos and Lot List for $100.00 (covers 1899 - 1928). Does anyone own one? and how do they like it?

I have bought a few items from ePay site and when I received the CD... lets just say the documents were horribly scanned in, and unledgable.

Thank you for your help.

John K.
Saginaw, MI
Re: Fw: [BRPRy] BR & P boxcar #3656

Claus Schlund &#92;(HGM&#92;)
 

Hi,

It appears this is only one photo in a sequence of four done at approximately the same time and place. Multiple views of some of the
details can be seen.

See url's below.

http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/hec2008007159/?sid=60600cde11707c1a59c498a05bcf3def
http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/hec2008007160/?sid=60600cde11707c1a59c498a05bcf3def
http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/hec2008007161/?sid=60600cde11707c1a59c498a05bcf3def
http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/hec2008007162/?sid=60600cde11707c1a59c498a05bcf3def


- Claus Schlund

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From: "joel norman" <mec-bml@...>
To: <STMFC@...>
Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2010 6:38 AM
Subject: [STMFC] Fw: [BRPRy] BR & P boxcar #3656




--- On Sun, 3/28/10, hbutlerlists <hbutlerlists@...> wrote:


From: hbutlerlists <hbutlerlists@...>
Subject: [BRPRy] BR & P boxcar #3656
To: BRPRy@...
Date: Sunday, March 28, 2010, 1:09 PM






There is an good view of one side and the roof of boxcar #3656 in
Washington, D.C., in 1917 posted on Shorpy:

http://www.shorpy. com/node/ 7941?size= _original
<http://www.shorpy. com/node/ 7941?size= _original>

Not all the lettering is legible, but it is a nice in-service shot.

Harry Butler














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Re: Freight Conductors' Train Book available online

rockroll50401 <cepropst@...>
 

Thank you Larry, I've been waiting for you to do that : )
Clark Propst
Fw: [BRPRy] BR & P boxcar #3656

joel norman <mec-bml@...>
 

--- On Sun, 3/28/10, hbutlerlists <hbutlerlists@...> wrote:


From: hbutlerlists <hbutlerlists@...>
Subject: [BRPRy] BR & P boxcar #3656
To: BRPRy@...
Date: Sunday, March 28, 2010, 1:09 PM


 



There is an good view of one side and the roof of boxcar #3656 in
Washington, D.C., in 1917 posted on Shorpy:

http://www.shorpy. com/node/ 7941?size= _original
<http://www.shorpy. com/node/ 7941?size= _original>

Not all the lettering is legible, but it is a nice in-service shot.

Harry Butler










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Re: Freight Conductors' Train Book available online

asychis@...
 

Larry,

Thanks for posting this. Making this sort of information available is
wonderful, and very useful! The Amarillo Railroad Museum has done a similar
thing with timebooks from Mr. Bill Stephens who worked for the Santa Fe from
the 1950s through the 1980s. Bill loaned us his timebooks. I scanned
them and also put all the information into Excel speadsheets and pdf files on
our website. _www.amaraillorailmusuem.com_
(http://www.amaraillorailmusuem.com) . Interesting trips from Amarillo to Clovis and/or Canadian, and on
the branches. Also a nice glimpse of the end of steam in Amarillo and
diesels from first to third generation.

I wish more of this sort of information was available. Of course
conductors' wheel reports, such as yours, are of more interest to this list, but
they are so scarce, I think timebooks help also.

I', waiting for someone to complete my "railroad data" life and offer an MP
timebook or wheel report from the Southern Illinois coal fields in the
1950s!

Jerry Michels
1:1 resin casting

Tim O'Connor
 

Jim King has moved up from HO and S, to 1:1 scale!
http://www.tarheelpress.com/LawndaleBoxcar/Hardware.html

Tim O'Connor
Re: Carbon Black Covered Hoppers

robertb@smartchat.net.au
 

Richard,

Thank you very much for the info. It was very helpful indeed. After seeing your article, I had a suspicion the Overland model was probably going to be of a later era. I would say 1960's, as it doesn't have 1970's lettering such as "consolidated data panels", etc. I think I'll have to obtain one of the Rail Shop models instead.

Robert Bogie

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From: Richard Hendrickson
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2010 12:15 PM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Carbon Black Covered Hoppers



On Mar 27, 2010, at 5:18 PM, Robert Bogie wrote:

> In the January 2007 issue of Railmodel Journal, there is an article
> by Richard Hendrickson on Carbon Black Covered Hopper cars, which
> has two photos of JM Huber Corp cars in a fairly plain paint
> scheme. I have also seen a brass model which was done in a
> "billboard" type paint scheme with very large lettering. I was
> wondering, what time periods each of these two schemes represents.

Robert, the photos I have of Huber cars - one builder's photo and two
in-service shots - all show the "plain Jane" lettering with only
reporting marks, numbers, data, and 9" J. M. HUBER CORPORATION
centered high on the car sides. The in-service shots date from the
early to mid-1950s, so that was the Huber scheme at least until that
period. The Billboard scheme on the model probably represents a
later prototype lettering scheme. I hope that's helpful.

Richard Hendrickson
Re: Kato ACF Covered Hoppers

StephenK
 

Actually I'm the Steve Kay from Cleveland, Ohio, and I model UP. Most of the western roads that had these cars painted them gray, and the Kato model have a lot of flexible plastic parts, so painting them could be a problem. I am looking at alternatives, but leaving all the cars in their factory paint jobs is another alternative....

SKay

--- In STMFC@..., "jdziedzic08802" <jerdz@...> wrote:

I have no opinion of the Kato couplers. I'd take advantage of experience and use the couplers you're most familiar with -- Accumates.

If you're the Steve Kay from NJ, L&NE would be a natural choice for a third road name. I believe that Champ still offers decals in L&NE's billboard scheme. They're intended for a different prototype than this car, but they have enough material to select from to letter this car.

N&B would be another selection. Herald King had decals. Don't know whether they remain available.

There are probably minor differences in detail between the Kato version and the prototypes I suggested. One I'd want to check is whether or not the prototype has the triangular cut out in the sides at the center of the car. I don't remember whether the Kato car has this feature or not.

I can suggest L&NE and N&B number series to you, but this will have to wait until mid-April because I'm away from my files right now. Let me know if you'd like this.


Jerry Dziedzic
Pattenburg, NJ

--- In STMFC@..., "StephenK" <thekays100@> wrote:

Last weekend I picked up two sets of Kato covered hopper kits at a local trainshow for very little $$$. One is Wabash and one is Erie. I searched the group but was unable to get answers to two questions. First, are the Kato couplers worth using, or should I used the Accumates that I generally use? Also, since I really don't need three of each of these(which is why I never bought these before--at the regular price), I am looking for other prototypes/decals to paint these. I found some nice sets from Prime Mover Decals for EL, but would like a few other alternatives. Any suggestions?

Thanks in advance,

Steve Kay
Re: Carbon Black Covered Hoppers

Richard Hendrickson
 

On Mar 27, 2010, at 5:18 PM, Robert Bogie wrote:

In the January 2007 issue of Railmodel Journal, there is an article
by Richard Hendrickson on Carbon Black Covered Hopper cars, which
has two photos of JM Huber Corp cars in a fairly plain paint
scheme. I have also seen a brass model which was done in a
"billboard" type paint scheme with very large lettering. I was
wondering, what time periods each of these two schemes represents.
Robert, the photos I have of Huber cars - one builder's photo and two
in-service shots - all show the "plain Jane" lettering with only
reporting marks, numbers, data, and 9" J. M. HUBER CORPORATION
centered high on the car sides. The in-service shots date from the
early to mid-1950s, so that was the Huber scheme at least until that
period. The Billboard scheme on the model probably represents a
later prototype lettering scheme. I hope that's helpful.

Richard Hendrickson
Re: Kato ACF Covered Hoppers

Jerry Dziedzic
 

I have no opinion of the Kato couplers. I'd take advantage of experience and use the couplers you're most familiar with -- Accumates.

If you're the Steve Kay from NJ, L&NE would be a natural choice for a third road name. I believe that Champ still offers decals in L&NE's billboard scheme. They're intended for a different prototype than this car, but they have enough material to select from to letter this car.

N&B would be another selection. Herald King had decals. Don't know whether they remain available.

There are probably minor differences in detail between the Kato version and the prototypes I suggested. One I'd want to check is whether or not the prototype has the triangular cut out in the sides at the center of the car. I don't remember whether the Kato car has this feature or not.

I can suggest L&NE and N&B number series to you, but this will have to wait until mid-April because I'm away from my files right now. Let me know if you'd like this.


Jerry Dziedzic
Pattenburg, NJ

--- In STMFC@..., "StephenK" <thekays100@...> wrote:

Last weekend I picked up two sets of Kato covered hopper kits at a local trainshow for very little $$$. One is Wabash and one is Erie. I searched the group but was unable to get answers to two questions. First, are the Kato couplers worth using, or should I used the Accumates that I generally use? Also, since I really don't need three of each of these(which is why I never bought these before--at the regular price), I am looking for other prototypes/decals to paint these. I found some nice sets from Prime Mover Decals for EL, but would like a few other alternatives. Any suggestions?

Thanks in advance,

Steve Kay
Carbon Black Covered Hoppers

robertb@smartchat.net.au
 

In the January 2007 issue of Railmodel Journal, there is an article by Richard Hendrickson on Carbon Black Covered Hopper cars, which has two photos of JM Huber Corp cars in a fairly plain paint scheme. I have also seen a brass model which was done in a "billboard" type paint scheme with very large lettering. I was wondering, what time periods each of these two schemes represents.

Regards,

Robert Bogie
Re: N&W Movie

Scott Pitzer
 

--- In STMFC@..., Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:


Very professionally made. It seemed to me that it was designed to
fit a high school audience
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I remember two educational films with steam railroad action-- both in color. One was about Canada and its natural resources, and the bauxite trains were being switched by steam engines.
The other was intended to illustrate the Doppler Effect and it had two or three runbys of SP engines.
Scott Pitzer
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