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Re: New York Central 765-B

Mark
 

Wish to thank: ED, Elden, Clark, Dave and James. Now to decide which direction to go!

Sincerely, Mark Morgan

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Mark M" <bnonut@...> wrote:

I recently purchased a built intermountain kit. NYC 40' PS-1 boxcar #167646 from lot 765-B.

Any suggestions on trucks, roof walk, steps, etc!

Thanks for any help.

Mark Morgan


Re: 40-foot FGE steel reefers

Frederick Freitas <prrinvt@...>
 

GUYZ,

              I second this idea, and it's a good one. Dennis, you build them and we will but them.
Bill welch is going to need a couple cases at least.  [ knowing full well I follow Bill's lead in
building an FGEX Consortium fleet]

Fred Freitas




________________________________
From: "tgregmrtn@aol.com" <tgregmrtn@aol.com>
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, May 11, 2010 8:26:34 PM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: 40-foot FGE steel reefers

 

I see a whole new series of SHAKE N TAKE... YIPPEE! Bill, are you listening? Now if we can get Dennis to do the NWX wood car with the plug doors...

Greg Martin

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To: STMFC@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Tue, May 11, 2010 2:00 pm
Subject: [STMFC] Re: 40-foot FGE steel reefers

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups. com, "al_brown03" <abrown@...> wrote:

It's listed on the Walthers site -- "adv. res." for all roadnames -- but not on Accurail's own. A forthcoming kit?

Al Brown, Melbourne, Fla.
Yes, plug door version also. Walthers got the info for the 2011 catalog, due out next October; we haven't put any info up because I didn't think Walthers was going to put it up this early. At this point, we are likely looking at a October release. The plug door car will be 8500 series SKU's, and will likely be out first.

The plug door car is specifically a WFEX car (don't have the numbers handy) but FGEX and BREX both had similar cars. spotting features include diagonal panel roof, improved Dreadnaught ends with the one "squished" rib, and plain lapped side sheets with single rivet rows.

The swing door car will have the same roof and ends; most likely double rivet rows (hat section posts).

As planned now, both cars will have acetal sill steps and brake rodding, like our gondola kit.

Now, I need to get back to work on them.

Dennis Storzek
Accurail, Inc.






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Re: New York Central 765-B

Frederick Freitas <prrinvt@...>
 

Elden,

           Thanks for P&WV PS-1 update. Now I can finally get mine
finished correctly.

Fred Freitas
PRR Panhandle divn / 1953




________________________________
From: "Gatwood, Elden J SAD" <elden.j.gatwood@usace.army.mil>
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, May 12, 2010 10:14:19 AM
Subject: RE: [STMFC] New York Central 765-B

 
Guys;

I looked into this issue when I was trying to figure out what to do on both
an early NYC PS-1 and an early P&WV PS-1 (both 1948 models, I think). Ed was
very helpful in that regard, too! I also got the Ed Kaminski Pullman-Std
book out and looked at the pics of early PS-1's. I have since partially
finished the P&WV model (I used a Kadee), and here is what I did:

1) Pop off running board, doors, end ladders and details, and grabs.

2) Sanded down end panel roof ribs to create flat panels on 4 end roof
panels. Put tape over panel caps and use sanding sticks on "ribs".

3) Replace doors with Superior type 7-panel.

4) Cut off portion of end ladder that is too wide, and replace with new
right stile that is continuous (this was very easy; let me know if you want
details)

5) reshape bolster tabs to match those in photo. The Late PS-1 has wide
tabs, the early ones are narrower and have a little bit of a "hat" shape.

6) re-shape end ribs to be rounder, both on ends and top and bottom edges.
I did this with a sanding stick.

7) replace right end grab with one mounted on the left with a triangular
(peaked) strap that clears the rib, in the appropriate location.

8) Replace brake with Equipco (P&WV used almost nothing else).

I did not investigate the underframe or u/f mounting of brake gear, as I had
no details on that, and will end up running the car 100% of the time right
side up (sad attempt at humor).

It is not a horrible bash, unlike others. And there are both Speedwitch
decals for the early, and Microscale decals, or Century green, makes the
issues of decals minimal.

BTW, there are other lots of NYC cars (176XXX series?) that have the later
features.

Elden Gatwood

-----Original Message-----
From: STMFC@yahoogroups. com [mailto:STMFC@yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Ed
Hawkins
Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 9:28 AM
To: STMFC@yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [STMFC] New York Central 765-B

On May 12, 2010, at 4:16 AM, Mark M wrote:

recently purchased a built intermountain kit. NYC 40' PS-1 boxcar
#167646 from lot 765-B.

Any suggestions on trucks, roof walk, steps, etc!

Thanks for any help.

Mark Morgan
Mark,
As far as I have been able to determine, NYC's PS-1 box cars typically came
with either Universal or Miner hand brakes and Apex Tri-Lok running boards
and brake steps. I do not know with any degree of certainty what hand
brake(s) came on the Lot 765-B series, and I have not found any definitive
photos. A photo of NYC 167299 (albeit a small
image) is on page 99 of the 1949/51 Car Builders' Cyclopedia. An in-service
photo of NYC 167210 from the same series shows the car rode on Barber S-2-A
trucks. However, this photo is a broadside and does not show the hand brake.

In case you aren't aware and for what it may be worth to you, the NYC Lot
765-B cars in series 167000-167999 were built in 1948. This means that the
InterMountain model (patterned after prototype PS-1 box cars built 1954 and
later) has a number of characteristics that are incorrect for the NYC Lot
765-B cars, including the wrong PS-1 ends (cars built in 1948 lacked the six
rectangles at the peak and had a different grab arrangement on the right side
of the end), the wrong
PS-1 roof (panels closest to the ends were flat), and the bolster tabs are
too wide. The prototype cars had 7-panel Superior doors, which I don't know
if the model comes with or not.
Regards,
Ed Hawkins

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Atlas undec 2-bay offset hopper

mopacfirst
 

What color are the Atlas undec cars molded in? I'm specifically interested in the 2-bay offset hopper. Are they gray?

Ron Merrick


Re: New York Central 765-B

James F. Brewer <jfbrewer@...>
 

Mark,



Stan Rydarowicz makes the roof, and perhaps the ends; see Jim Hayes web page http://www.sunshinekits.com/sunimages/stanparts.pdf



Jim Brewer

Glenwood MD

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ed Hawkins" <hawk0621@sbcglobal.net>
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 9:27:41 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [STMFC] New York Central 765-B

 





On May 12, 2010, at 4:16 AM, Mark M wrote:

recently purchased a built intermountain kit. NYC 40' PS-1 boxcar
#167646 from lot 765-B.

Any suggestions on trucks, roof walk, steps, etc!

Thanks for any help.

Mark Morgan
Mark,
As far as I have been able to determine, NYC's PS-1 box cars typically
came with either Universal or Miner hand brakes and Apex Tri-Lok
running boards and brake steps. I do not know with any degree of
certainty what hand brake(s) came on the Lot 765-B series, and I have
not found any definitive photos. A photo of NYC 167299 (albeit a small
image) is on page 99 of the 1949/51 Car Builders' Cyclopedia. An
in-service photo of NYC 167210 from the same series shows the car rode
on Barber S-2-A trucks. However, this photo is a broadside and does not
show the hand brake.

In case you aren't aware and for what it may be worth to you, the NYC
Lot 765-B cars in series 167000-167999 were built in 1948. This means
that the InterMountain model (patterned after prototype PS-1 box cars
built 1954 and later) has a number of characteristics that are
incorrect for the NYC Lot 765-B cars, including the wrong PS-1 ends
(cars built in 1948 lacked the six rectangles at the peak and had a
different grab arrangement on the right side of the end), the wrong
PS-1 roof (panels closest to the ends were flat), and the bolster tabs
are too wide. The prototype cars had 7-panel Superior doors, which I
don't know if the model comes with or not.
Regards,
Ed Hawkins

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Re: New York Central 765-B

Gatwood, Elden J SAD
 

Clark is right. I also replaced those wrong steps with A-Line's.

Thanks!

Elden Gatwood

-----Original Message-----
From: STMFC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:STMFC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
rockroll50401
Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 10:49 AM
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [STMFC] Re: New York Central 765-B





Some of the early PS1s had 'standard' style corner steps. A tap above/across
the step, all steps alike.
Clark Propst


Re: New York Central 765-B

David Sieber
 

Mark,
The PS-1 table on the Steam Freight Cars website confirms that this lot had 6-foot 7-panel Superior doors and Barber S-2-A trucks. It shows the handbrake was Miner - but with an asterisk, indicating confirmation from a photo, not conclusive documentation for the entire lot - so other handbrakes may have been applied to a portion of the lot. Since Intermountain PS-1 kits come with an incorrect early Ajax brakewheel, I'd suggest the Miner handbrake from the available info.
However, as Ed Hawkins notes, there are a number of details about the Intermountain car that could be changed to more accurately model an early PS-1. See Ted Culotta's article Essential Freight Cars #40 in RMC Jan 08, plus the Pat Wider/Ed Hawkins article in RP Cyc #1 on Riveted 40' PS-1 Box Cars. Don't let that title fool you; the RP Cyc article gives timelines for changes in identifiable features of early PS-1s: ends, roofs, underframes, bolster tabs, stirrup steps, etc. If you choose to make those modifications, you'll have a car that is accurate and definitely not like everyone else's Intermountain car.
Enjoy,
Dave Sieber, Reno NV

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Ed Hawkins <hawk0621@...> wrote:

On May 12, 2010, at 4:16 AM, Mark Morgan wrote:

I recently purchased a built intermountain kit. NYC 40' PS-1 boxcar #167646 from lot 765-B. Any suggestions on trucks, roof walk, steps, etc!
Mark,
As far as I have been able to determine, NYC's PS-1 box cars typically came with either Universal or Miner hand brakes and Apex Tri-Lok running boards and brake steps. I do not know with any degree of certainty what hand brake(s) came on the Lot 765-B series, and I have not found any definitive photos. A photo of NYC 167299 (albeit a small image) is on page 99 of the 1949/51 Car Builders' Cyclopedia. An in-service photo of NYC 167210 from the same series shows the car rode on Barber S-2-A trucks. However, this photo is a broadside and does not show the hand brake.

In case you aren't aware and for what it may be worth to you, the NYC Lot 765-B cars in series 167000-167999 were built in 1948. This means that the InterMountain model (patterned after prototype PS-1 box cars built 1954 and later) has a number of characteristics that are incorrect for the NYC Lot 765-B cars, including the wrong PS-1 ends (cars built in 1948 lacked the six rectangles at the peak and had a different grab arrangement on the right side of the end), the wrong PS-1 roof (panels closest to the ends were flat), and the bolster tabs are too wide. The prototype cars had 7-panel Superior doors, which I don't know if the model comes with or not.
Regards,
Ed Hawkins
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Re: New York Central 765-B

Clark Propst
 

Some of the early PS1s had 'standard' style corner steps. A tap above/across the step, all steps alike.
Clark Propst


Re: New York Central 765-B

Gatwood, Elden J SAD
 

Guys;

I looked into this issue when I was trying to figure out what to do on both
an early NYC PS-1 and an early P&WV PS-1 (both 1948 models, I think). Ed was
very helpful in that regard, too! I also got the Ed Kaminski Pullman-Std
book out and looked at the pics of early PS-1's. I have since partially
finished the P&WV model (I used a Kadee), and here is what I did:

1) Pop off running board, doors, end ladders and details, and grabs.

2) Sanded down end panel roof ribs to create flat panels on 4 end roof
panels. Put tape over panel caps and use sanding sticks on "ribs".

3) Replace doors with Superior type 7-panel.

4) Cut off portion of end ladder that is too wide, and replace with new
right stile that is continuous (this was very easy; let me know if you want
details)

5) reshape bolster tabs to match those in photo. The Late PS-1 has wide
tabs, the early ones are narrower and have a little bit of a "hat" shape.

6) re-shape end ribs to be rounder, both on ends and top and bottom edges.
I did this with a sanding stick.

7) replace right end grab with one mounted on the left with a triangular
(peaked) strap that clears the rib, in the appropriate location.

8) Replace brake with Equipco (P&WV used almost nothing else).

I did not investigate the underframe or u/f mounting of brake gear, as I had
no details on that, and will end up running the car 100% of the time right
side up (sad attempt at humor).

It is not a horrible bash, unlike others. And there are both Speedwitch
decals for the early, and Microscale decals, or Century green, makes the
issues of decals minimal.

BTW, there are other lots of NYC cars (176XXX series?) that have the later
features.

Elden Gatwood

-----Original Message-----
From: STMFC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:STMFC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Ed
Hawkins
Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 9:28 AM
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [STMFC] New York Central 765-B




On May 12, 2010, at 4:16 AM, Mark M wrote:

recently purchased a built intermountain kit. NYC 40' PS-1 boxcar
#167646 from lot 765-B.

Any suggestions on trucks, roof walk, steps, etc!

Thanks for any help.

Mark Morgan
Mark,
As far as I have been able to determine, NYC's PS-1 box cars typically came
with either Universal or Miner hand brakes and Apex Tri-Lok running boards
and brake steps. I do not know with any degree of certainty what hand
brake(s) came on the Lot 765-B series, and I have not found any definitive
photos. A photo of NYC 167299 (albeit a small
image) is on page 99 of the 1949/51 Car Builders' Cyclopedia. An in-service
photo of NYC 167210 from the same series shows the car rode on Barber S-2-A
trucks. However, this photo is a broadside and does not show the hand brake.

In case you aren't aware and for what it may be worth to you, the NYC Lot
765-B cars in series 167000-167999 were built in 1948. This means that the
InterMountain model (patterned after prototype PS-1 box cars built 1954 and
later) has a number of characteristics that are incorrect for the NYC Lot
765-B cars, including the wrong PS-1 ends (cars built in 1948 lacked the six
rectangles at the peak and had a different grab arrangement on the right side
of the end), the wrong
PS-1 roof (panels closest to the ends were flat), and the bolster tabs are
too wide. The prototype cars had 7-panel Superior doors, which I don't know
if the model comes with or not.
Regards,
Ed Hawkins

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Re: New York Central 765-B

Ed Hawkins
 

On May 12, 2010, at 4:16 AM, Mark M wrote:

recently purchased a built intermountain kit. NYC 40' PS-1 boxcar
#167646 from lot 765-B.

Any suggestions on trucks, roof walk, steps, etc!

Thanks for any help.

Mark Morgan
Mark,
As far as I have been able to determine, NYC's PS-1 box cars typically
came with either Universal or Miner hand brakes and Apex Tri-Lok
running boards and brake steps. I do not know with any degree of
certainty what hand brake(s) came on the Lot 765-B series, and I have
not found any definitive photos. A photo of NYC 167299 (albeit a small
image) is on page 99 of the 1949/51 Car Builders' Cyclopedia. An
in-service photo of NYC 167210 from the same series shows the car rode
on Barber S-2-A trucks. However, this photo is a broadside and does not
show the hand brake.

In case you aren't aware and for what it may be worth to you, the NYC
Lot 765-B cars in series 167000-167999 were built in 1948. This means
that the InterMountain model (patterned after prototype PS-1 box cars
built 1954 and later) has a number of characteristics that are
incorrect for the NYC Lot 765-B cars, including the wrong PS-1 ends
(cars built in 1948 lacked the six rectangles at the peak and had a
different grab arrangement on the right side of the end), the wrong
PS-1 roof (panels closest to the ends were flat), and the bolster tabs
are too wide. The prototype cars had 7-panel Superior doors, which I
don't know if the model comes with or not.
Regards,
Ed Hawkins


Re: new decals added

Gatwood, Elden J SAD
 

Jerry;

Would you be interested in doing some 1952+ EJ&E box cars decals in the
Billboard orange and green schemes? There are Sunshine mini-kits and other
(incl Branchline 8' dr car) bashes that can be done, for both the 10' and
10'6" IH cars, and photos of same in both new EJ&E book and in old RMJ. There
are also B&W photos in the RPCyc that contained the article on 10' IH cars. I
do not know why no one has done those cars, but it is true!

Elden Gatwood

-----Original Message-----
From: STMFC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:STMFC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
jerryglow@comcast.net
Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 5:31 PM
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [STMFC] Re: new decals added



Sorry - been busy setting up the old computer that was downgraded to the
train room. The ACL set was inspired by my friend Steve Hoxie who I'm hoping
will write it up perhaps in the SCL-Modeler (cuz I know John Golden has been
pumping him for input).

I did a similar one years ago for Frisco (see:
http://home.comcast.net/~jerryglow/modeling/SLSF_rebuilt.html
<http://home.comcast.net/~jerryglow/modeling/SLSF_rebuilt.html>
You cut the side/roof casting apart and discard the roof scratching a new one
from sheet and strip stock. Assemble the "box" using Tichy's 5-5-5 ends and
an Accurail USRA underframe (necessary because the kit is a rebuild from a
50ton SS car and we're modeling a one from a 40ton DS car).

I can go into further detail if necessary but that's the basics.

Jerry Glow

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:STMFC%40yahoogroups.com> , Mike
Aufderheide <mononinmonon@...> wrote:

Jerry,
Â
Are the ACL rebuild changes to the Tichy model described in a magazine
article, or is it simpler than that? Sounds like a car I would like to make.
Â
Mike Aufderheide

--- On Tue, 5/11/10, jerryglow@... <jerryglow@...> wrote:


From: jerryglow@... <jerryglow@...>
Subject: [STMFC] Re: new decals added
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:STMFC%40yahoogroups.com>
Date: Tuesday, May 11, 2010, 12:30 PM


Â



At John Golden's suggestion, I modified the ACL rebuilt boxcar set to
make one for an AAR '37. So you now have your choice (or get both)

Jerry Glow
http://home. comcast.net/ ~jerryglow/ decals.html

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups. com, jerryglow@ . wrote:

I'm gradually adding new sets to my small line of specality decals:
http://home. comcast.net/ ~jerryglow/ decals.html Recent additions
include sets for ACL and P&LE/PMcK&Y rebuilt boxcars, and a single door
version of the Soo Line AAR '37 w/ $ sign logo.

My niche is (without criticizing the manufacturers) replacement sets for
lesser quality offerings especially in F&C and Tichy kits and "bashable"
projects for which no decals exist.

I may be interested in adding a set not listed: as usual, contact me
OFF LIST

Jerry Glow












New York Central 765-B

Mark
 

I recently purchased a built intermountain kit. NYC 40' PS-1 boxcar #167646 from lot 765-B.

Any suggestions on trucks, roof walk, steps, etc!

Thanks for any help.

Mark Morgan


Re: 40-foot FGE steel reefers

Greg Martin
 

I see a whole new series of SHAKE N TAKE... YIPPEE! Bill, are you listening? Now if we can get Dennis to do the NWX wood car with the plug doors...

Greg Martin

-----Original Message-----
From: soolinehistory <destorzek@mchsi.com>
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, May 11, 2010 2:00 pm
Subject: [STMFC] Re: 40-foot FGE steel reefers






--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "al_brown03" <abrown@...> wrote:

It's listed on the Walthers site -- "adv. res." for all roadnames -- but not on Accurail's own. A forthcoming kit?

Al Brown, Melbourne, Fla.
Yes, plug door version also. Walthers got the info for the 2011 catalog, due out next October; we haven't put any info up because I didn't think Walthers was going to put it up this early. At this point, we are likely looking at a October release. The plug door car will be 8500 series SKU's, and will likely be out first.

The plug door car is specifically a WFEX car (don't have the numbers handy) but FGEX and BREX both had similar cars. spotting features include diagonal panel roof, improved Dreadnaught ends with the one "squished" rib, and plain lapped side sheets with single rivet rows.

The swing door car will have the same roof and ends; most likely double rivet rows (hat section posts).

As planned now, both cars will have acetal sill steps and brake rodding, like our gondola kit.

Now, I need to get back to work on them.

Dennis Storzek
Accurail, Inc.


Re: new decals added

jerryglow2
 

Sorry - been busy setting up the old computer that was downgraded to the train room. The ACL set was inspired by my friend Steve Hoxie who I'm hoping will write it up perhaps in the SCL-Modeler (cuz I know John Golden has been pumping him for input).

I did a similar one years ago for Frisco (see:
http://home.comcast.net/~jerryglow/modeling/SLSF_rebuilt.html
You cut the side/roof casting apart and discard the roof scratching a new one from sheet and strip stock. Assemble the "box" using Tichy's 5-5-5 ends and an Accurail USRA underframe (necessary because the kit is a rebuild from a 50ton SS car and we're modeling a one from a 40ton DS car).

I can go into further detail if necessary but that's the basics.

Jerry Glow

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Mike Aufderheide <mononinmonon@...> wrote:

Jerry,
 
Are the ACL rebuild changes to the Tichy model described in a magazine article, or is it simpler than that? Sounds like a car I would like to make.
 
Mike Aufderheide

--- On Tue, 5/11/10, jerryglow@... <jerryglow@...> wrote:


From: jerryglow@... <jerryglow@...>
Subject: [STMFC] Re: new decals added
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, May 11, 2010, 12:30 PM


 



At John Golden's suggestion, I modified the ACL rebuilt boxcar set to make one for an AAR '37. So you now have your choice (or get both)

Jerry Glow
http://home. comcast.net/ ~jerryglow/ decals.html

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups. com, jerryglow@ . wrote:

I'm gradually adding new sets to my small line of specality decals:
http://home. comcast.net/ ~jerryglow/ decals.html
Recent additions include sets for ACL and P&LE/PMcK&Y rebuilt boxcars, and a single door version of the Soo Line AAR '37 w/ $ sign logo.

My niche is (without criticizing the manufacturers) replacement sets for lesser quality offerings especially in F&C and Tichy kits and "bashable" projects for which no decals exist.

I may be interested in adding a set not listed: as usual, contact me OFF LIST

Jerry Glow












Re: new decals added

Michael Aufderheide
 

Ben,
 
I was asking IF the model had been described in a magazine article.  It doesn't sound like it, but I appreciate your suggestions.  Thank you for the information!  Kitbashes like this are always fun.
 
Mike Aufderheide

--- On Tue, 5/11/10, benjaminfrank_hom <b.hom@att.net> wrote:


From: benjaminfrank_hom <b.hom@att.net>
Subject: [STMFC] Re: new decals added
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, May 11, 2010, 1:08 PM


 



Mike Aufderheide wrote:
"Are the ACL rebuild changes to the Tichy model described in a
magazine article, or is it simpler than that? Sounds like a car I
would like to make."

Mike, not sure which magazine article you're referencing; at any
rate, I wouldn't start with the Tichy HO scale model as it's too
tall and has the wrong roof for the ACL USRA DS rebuilds. Instead,
I'd start with either the Atlas "Rebuilt" boxcar with 5/5/5 ends and
fishbelly underframe (part no 6400-1 undec), rework the side sills
for the proper support brackets and inset, and change out the
trucks; or go with Sunshine kits 64.67-64.70 out of the box.
http://www.atlasrr. com/HOFreight/ hosteelrebuilt. htm
http://www.sunshine kits.com/ sunimages/ sun64h.pdf

FWIW, the Atlas car is a hermaphrodite that doesn't accurately model
any rebuilt SS or DS boxcar; however, the 5/5/5 end version is
closest to the ACL/C&WC/SL- SF prototypes and can be kitbashed as
discussed above.

Ben Hom











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Re: 40-foot FGE steel reefers

Dennis Storzek
 

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "al_brown03" <abrown@...> wrote:

It's listed on the Walthers site -- "adv. res." for all roadnames -- but not on Accurail's own. A forthcoming kit?

Al Brown, Melbourne, Fla.
Yes, plug door version also. Walthers got the info for the 2011 catalog, due out next October; we haven't put any info up because I didn't think Walthers was going to put it up this early. At this point, we are likely looking at a October release. The plug door car will be 8500 series SKU's, and will likely be out first.

The plug door car is specifically a WFEX car (don't have the numbers handy) but FGEX and BREX both had similar cars. spotting features include diagonal panel roof, improved Dreadnaught ends with the one "squished" rib, and plain lapped side sheets with single rivet rows.

The swing door car will have the same roof and ends; most likely double rivet rows (hat section posts).

As planned now, both cars will have acetal sill steps and brake rodding, like our gondola kit.

Now, I need to get back to work on them.

Dennis Storzek
Accurail, Inc.


Re: 40-foot FGE steel reefers

al_brown03
 

It's listed on the Walthers site -- "adv. res." for all roadnames -- but not on Accurail's own. A forthcoming kit?

Al Brown, Melbourne, Fla.

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Marty McGuirk <mjmcguirk@...> wrote:



I was looking for FGE wood refrigerator car kits from Accurail over at the Walthers site and noticed Accurail kit 112-8304 40;' Steel Reefer with Hinged Door - (Kit) Fruit Growers Express.



I was not aware that Accurail had a steel hinged door reefer.



Has anyone seen this and, if so, offer any comments?



Thanks,



Marty








40-foot FGE steel reefers

Marty McGuirk
 

I was looking for FGE wood refrigerator car kits from Accurail over at the Walthers site and noticed Accurail kit 112-8304 40;' Steel Reefer with Hinged Door - (Kit) Fruit Growers Express.



I was not aware that Accurail had a steel hinged door reefer.



Has anyone seen this and, if so, offer any comments?



Thanks,



Marty


Re: new decals added

Benjamin Hom
 

Mike Aufderheide wrote:
"Are the ACL rebuild changes to the Tichy model described in a
magazine article, or is it simpler than that? Sounds like a car I
would like to make."

Mike, not sure which magazine article you're referencing; at any
rate, I wouldn't start with the Tichy HO scale model as it's too
tall and has the wrong roof for the ACL USRA DS rebuilds. Instead,
I'd start with either the Atlas "Rebuilt" boxcar with 5/5/5 ends and
fishbelly underframe (part no 6400-1 undec), rework the side sills
for the proper support brackets and inset, and change out the
trucks; or go with Sunshine kits 64.67-64.70 out of the box.
http://www.atlasrr.com/HOFreight/hosteelrebuilt.htm
http://www.sunshinekits.com/sunimages/sun64h.pdf

FWIW, the Atlas car is a hermaphrodite that doesn't accurately model
any rebuilt SS or DS boxcar; however, the 5/5/5 end version is
closest to the ACL/C&WC/SL-SF prototypes and can be kitbashed as
discussed above.


Ben Hom


Re: new decals added

Michael Aufderheide
 

Jerry,
 
Are the ACL rebuild changes to the Tichy model described in a magazine article, or is it simpler than that? Sounds like a car I would like to make.
 
Mike Aufderheide

--- On Tue, 5/11/10, jerryglow@comcast.net <jerryglow@comcast.net> wrote:


From: jerryglow@comcast.net <jerryglow@comcast.net>
Subject: [STMFC] Re: new decals added
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, May 11, 2010, 12:30 PM


 



At John Golden's suggestion, I modified the ACL rebuilt boxcar set to make one for an AAR '37. So you now have your choice (or get both)

Jerry Glow
http://home. comcast.net/ ~jerryglow/ decals.html

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups. com, jerryglow@.. . wrote:

I'm gradually adding new sets to my small line of specality decals:
http://home. comcast.net/ ~jerryglow/ decals.html
Recent additions include sets for ACL and P&LE/PMcK&Y rebuilt boxcars, and a single door version of the Soo Line AAR '37 w/ $ sign logo.

My niche is (without criticizing the manufacturers) replacement sets for lesser quality offerings especially in F&C and Tichy kits and "bashable" projects for which no decals exist.

I may be interested in adding a set not listed: as usual, contact me OFF LIST

Jerry Glow










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