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Re: Interesting Box Cars, but no models? Part 1

jerryglow2
 

I was unaware any MP ones went to AC&Y but I'm pretty certain some went to Ashley Drew and Northern.

Jerry Glow

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Gatwood, Elden J SAD " <elden.j.gatwood@...> wrote:

All;

I have been re-reading many of the landmark articles on box cars that Ed
Hawkins, Richard Hendrickson, Rich Burg, Jim Eager and others wrote for the
mags in the late 80's and 90's, and was wondering why some of these
interesting box cars have not been produced in model, much less RTR form.

Beginning with the 50-foot single sheathed cars (Rich Burg article - RMJ Nov
'89), there are very appealing cars that MILW, Bamberger, CB&Q, GN, NP, MP
(later AC&Y), and RI owned. I am aware of the Westerfield GN car, but does
anyone make any of the others in HO? Given these were around for a long time
(into the 60's at least), and were such significant cars, and also given the
numerous oddballs one finds in resin form, I am surprised I haven't seen
these more numerous and important cars in HO.

Elden Gatwood


Re: Tim O'Connor made me do it

jerryglow2
 

I was thinking of using the name I had when I ran a custom paint shop for 10 years. http://home.comcast.net/~jerryglow/splash.html

BTW my list now is mostly "cluickable" to show sample illustrations or actual models.

Jerry Glow

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "John" <golden1014@...> wrote:

Jerry,

You're making enough decals to have a trade name or a company name.

As much fun as it would be to have a "Name Jerry's Company Contest", I think it might be just a bit off-topic. I think Glow-Cals would win anyway.

You might also help sales if you set up a page on your website to show models finished with your decals.

John Golden
Bloomington, IN


--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, jerryglow@ wrote:

At Tim's request, I've added a DSS&A decal set good for Ps-1s and AARs. This was a real case of cooperation from several list members esp Dennis Storzk who provided some excellent drawings of the logos.

see the new list at:
http://home.comcast.net/~jerryglow/decals.html

Jerry Glow


Re: Interesting Box Cars, but no models? Part 1

Gatwood, Elden J SAD
 

Thanks for that info, Bill!

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lnbill
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 8:59 AM
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Subject: [STMFC] Re: Interesting Box Cars, but no models? Part 1



The Rock island 50' is available from "Rocket Express Models" and is a great
model. Speedwitch did NP SS DD car and CB&Q is in the pipeline from them if
not already issued.

MP car easy to do IMO from ex-MDC line.

Bill Welch

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:STMFC%40yahoogroups.com> , "Gatwood,
Elden J SAD " <elden.j.gatwood@...> wrote:

All;

I have been re-reading many of the landmark articles on box cars that
Ed Hawkins, Richard Hendrickson, Rich Burg, Jim Eager and others wrote
for the mags in the late 80's and 90's, and was wondering why some of
these interesting box cars have not been produced in model, much less RTR
form.

Beginning with the 50-foot single sheathed cars (Rich Burg article -
RMJ Nov '89), there are very appealing cars that MILW, Bamberger,
CB&Q, GN, NP, MP (later AC&Y), and RI owned. I am aware of the
Westerfield GN car, but does anyone make any of the others in HO?
Given these were around for a long time (into the 60's at least), and
were such significant cars, and also given the numerous oddballs one
finds in resin form, I am surprised I haven't seen these more numerous and
important cars in HO.

Elden Gatwood


Re: Tim O'Connor made me do it

golden1014
 

Jerry,

You're making enough decals to have a trade name or a company name.

As much fun as it would be to have a "Name Jerry's Company Contest", I think it might be just a bit off-topic. I think Glow-Cals would win anyway.

You might also help sales if you set up a page on your website to show models finished with your decals.

John Golden
Bloomington, IN

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, jerryglow@... wrote:

At Tim's request, I've added a DSS&A decal set good for Ps-1s and AARs. This was a real case of cooperation from several list members esp Dennis Storzk who provided some excellent drawings of the logos.

see the new list at:
http://home.comcast.net/~jerryglow/decals.html

Jerry Glow


Re: Branchline 40' steel CMO (C&NW) boxcar 39092

Dan Sweeney Jr
 

Ed, thanks much. I have been putting off relettering these four cars--sometimes laziness pays off! Best wishes,
Dan Sweeney, Jr.
Alexandria, VA

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Ed Hawkins <hawk0621@...> wrote:


On May 18, 2010, at 3:58 PM, potomacyard wrote:

Steve and group,
Forgive me for jumping in so late on this topic, but I purchased a
four-pack of the Branchline CMO 39000's, and am concerned about the
lettering above the reporting marks. Every photo of a CMO steel box
car that I have seen shows only the letters "CStPM&O" above the
reporting marks, but the kits all carry the same lettering as appears
on CNW box cars (full "Chicago and North Western"). Guidance please.

Dan Sweeney, Jr.
Alexandria, VA
Dan,
The AC&F builder's photo from lot 2770 of CMO 37662, built 8-45, had
CStPM&O stencils above the reporting marks. The builder's photo from
lot 3256 of CMO 39092, built 10-48 had CHICAGO AND NORTH WESTERN
stencils above the reporting marks. In case this matters, the
1945-built CMO cars had Duryea underframes while the 1948-built CMO
cars had AAR-type underframes. Hope this helps.
Regards,
Ed Hawkins




Re: Interesting Box Cars, but no models? Part 1

Bill Welch
 

The Rock island 50' is available from "Rocket Express Models" and is a great model. Speedwitch did NP SS DD car and CB&Q is in the pipeline from them if not already issued.

MP car easy to do IMO from ex-MDC line.

Bill Welch

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Gatwood, Elden J SAD " <elden.j.gatwood@...> wrote:

All;

I have been re-reading many of the landmark articles on box cars that Ed
Hawkins, Richard Hendrickson, Rich Burg, Jim Eager and others wrote for the
mags in the late 80's and 90's, and was wondering why some of these
interesting box cars have not been produced in model, much less RTR form.

Beginning with the 50-foot single sheathed cars (Rich Burg article - RMJ Nov
'89), there are very appealing cars that MILW, Bamberger, CB&Q, GN, NP, MP
(later AC&Y), and RI owned. I am aware of the Westerfield GN car, but does
anyone make any of the others in HO? Given these were around for a long time
(into the 60's at least), and were such significant cars, and also given the
numerous oddballs one finds in resin form, I am surprised I haven't seen
these more numerous and important cars in HO.

Elden Gatwood


Re: Interesting Box Cars, but no models? Part 1

Gatwood, Elden J SAD
 

All;

I have been re-reading many of the landmark articles on box cars that Ed
Hawkins, Richard Hendrickson, Rich Burg, Jim Eager and others wrote for the
mags in the late 80's and 90's, and was wondering why some of these
interesting box cars have not been produced in model, much less RTR form.

Beginning with the 50-foot single sheathed cars (Rich Burg article - RMJ Nov
'89), there are very appealing cars that MILW, Bamberger, CB&Q, GN, NP, MP
(later AC&Y), and RI owned. I am aware of the Westerfield GN car, but does
anyone make any of the others in HO? Given these were around for a long time
(into the 60's at least), and were such significant cars, and also given the
numerous oddballs one finds in resin form, I am surprised I haven't seen
these more numerous and important cars in HO.

Elden Gatwood


Re: Branchline 40' steel CMO (C&NW) boxcar 39092

Ed Hawkins
 

On May 18, 2010, at 3:58 PM, potomacyard wrote:

Steve and group,
Forgive me for jumping in so late on this topic, but I purchased a
four-pack of the Branchline CMO 39000's, and am concerned about the
lettering above the reporting marks. Every photo of a CMO steel box
car that I have seen shows only the letters "CStPM&O" above the
reporting marks, but the kits all carry the same lettering as appears
on CNW box cars (full "Chicago and North Western"). Guidance please.

Dan Sweeney, Jr.
Alexandria, VA
Dan,
The AC&F builder's photo from lot 2770 of CMO 37662, built 8-45, had
CStPM&O stencils above the reporting marks. The builder's photo from
lot 3256 of CMO 39092, built 10-48 had CHICAGO AND NORTH WESTERN
stencils above the reporting marks. In case this matters, the
1945-built CMO cars had Duryea underframes while the 1948-built CMO
cars had AAR-type underframes. Hope this helps.
Regards,
Ed Hawkins


Re: Rebuilt cars by Erie RR

Frederick Freitas <prrinvt@...>
 

Bill,

       As always, thanks for the insight and heads up on the model.

Fred Freitas




________________________________
From: lnbill <fgexbill@tampabay.rr.com>
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, May 18, 2010 8:19:40 PM
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Rebuilt cars by Erie RR

 
These will likely be available from Speedwitch sometime soon. There is another group of steel cars sold to WIF by the Thomasville High Point & Denton. These look like a 10-ft IH X29 with Duryea u/f. The WIF cars had a circular herald with kind of yellow center. Champ did these decals years ago. I have sent photos of these to Martin at Sunshine who seems interested in doing this small but interesting group of cars. CNJ had similar cars w/1-1/2 doors.

Bill Welch

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Panhandle Division 1953" <prrinvt@...> wrote:

List,

With the recent discussion of the West India Co.; I went looking for photos of the cars. I find that some of them were cars rebuilt by the Erie by placing steel on the outside of the truss frame, and behind the frame members on the ends. They retained the wooden doors.
Has anyone make a kit that is accurate for these cars? W.I.F.& S. Co. # 521 is the photo in question.

Fred Freitas



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Re: Grain capy

Skip Luke <salty4568@...>
 

The grain doors nailed inside the car door can't extend all the way up, anyway. Load could only be
up to about two feet below the door top.

Skip Luke

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Re: Rebuilt cars by Erie RR

Bill Welch
 

These will likely be available from Speedwitch sometime soon. There is another group of steel cars sold to WIF by the Thomasville High Point & Denton. These look like a 10-ft IH X29 with Duryea u/f. The WIF cars had a circular herald with kind of yellow center. Champ did these decals years ago. I have sent photos of these to Martin at Sunshine who seems interested in doing this small but interesting group of cars. CNJ had similar cars w/1-1/2 doors.

Bill Welch

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Panhandle Division 1953" <prrinvt@...> wrote:

List,

With the recent discussion of the West India Co.; I went looking for photos of the cars. I find that some of them were cars rebuilt by the Erie by placing steel on the outside of the truss frame, and behind the frame members on the ends. They retained the wooden doors.
Has anyone make a kit that is accurate for these cars? W.I.F.& S. Co. # 521 is the photo in question.

Fred Freitas


Rebuilt cars by Erie RR

Panhandle Division 1953 <prrinvt@...>
 

List,

With the recent discussion of the West India Co.; I went looking for photos of the cars. I find that some of them were cars rebuilt by the Erie by placing steel on the outside of the truss frame, and behind the frame members on the ends. They retained the wooden doors.
Has anyone make a kit that is accurate for these cars? W.I.F.& S. Co. # 521 is the photo in question.

Fred Freitas


Re: Lost link to modeling a tetra-ethyl lead tank car

Jason Hill
 

Yep, that's the one I was thinking of.
Thanks all,
Jason Hill

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Andrew Miller" <aslmmiller@...> wrote:

Jason, Thanx for the plug ;-)

Dave,

Yes that was me. I only know of one other person who has done small tank cars. I saw photos of his work at a prototype modelers meet. He did beautiful work. Unfortunately I don't remember his name :-(

I made the art work for the wrapper with Powerpoint and printed it on clear plastic. Today I would print it on clear decal paper. The only inobvious detail I did not mention in the caption to the photo of my car is that I cut the tops off the original model's handrail posts, which I was discarding, and used them for the body stantions for the new wire handrails on the tank.

BTW I still have the artwork if you would like it.

regards,

Andy Miller

----- Original Message -----
From: ealabhan0
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 7:12 PM
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Lost link to modeling a tetra-ethyl lead tank car



Jason,
You may be thinking of Andrew Miller's 4000gal Ethyl tank car at: http://www.steamfreightcars.com/modeling/models/millera/ebax3064main.html - if that URL doesn't work, go to www.steamfreightcars.com and click the links at left "Modeling," then "Models," then down to click either "Tank Cars" or "Andrew Miller," and finally "EBAX 3064."
Hope this helps,
Dave Sieber, Reno NV

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "HillJason" <hilljason@> wrote:
>
> Greetings all,
> I saw several years ago an on-line article on how to model a Ethyl Corp. (iirc) tank car from a IHC old-time tank car, which I know is now out-of-production, but the article also talked about the author's artwork for the wrapper that he made for it. Anyone with info as to who wrote the article, I would be very thankful to get in contact or even have the article link again.
> Thanks in advance,
> Jason Hill
>





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Re: Branchline 40' steel CMO (C&NW) boxcar 39092

Dan Sweeney Jr
 

Steve and group,
Forgive me for jumping in so late on this topic, but I purchased a four-pack of the Branchline CMO 39000's, and am concerned about the lettering above the reporting marks. Every photo of a CMO steel box car that I have seen shows only the letters "CStPM&O" above the reporting marks, but the kits all carry the same lettering as appears on CNW box cars (full "Chicago and North Western"). Guidance please.

Dan Sweeney, Jr.
Alexandria, VA

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Steve Lucas" <stevelucas3@...> wrote:

I'm putting one of these together, and the kit comes with a raised-panel roof.

Is this roof correct for this 1948-built car, or should it be fitted with a SRECO diagonal panel roof instead?

Thanks in advance,

Steve Lucas.


Wanted Sunshine Models PDS ATSF work train

Dennis Williams
 

I am building a Sunshine Models ATSF Work Train that is missing the PDS. Any help out there?? Thanks, Dennis


Re: Chateau Martin Wine Car Photos

brianehni <behni@...>
 

True, but there is the not-small matter of artwork necessary. I, too, have an ALPS, but without the correct lettering style, you're only as close as what Intermountain already sells (which is to say not close at all unless they have changed the paint from purple to magenta - and that still leaves me with a car in purple).

I think that trying to get either Ted or Protocraft to do the project is a safer bet, using the proper lettering style. Or, if Protocraft would release the artwork for use in scales other than O, we could get them done by just about anyone. A Microscale size sheet of decal should be able to fit all four lettering styles on one sheet, and certainly a Tango Papa 8.5" x 11" can!

Brian Ehni

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, John Kellett <soccrdad525@...> wrote:

Brian,

Talk to Jeffrey Damerst at Shawmut Car Shops.  Here is his website: http://www.shawmutcarshops.com/ and you can see some of his work.
I have used Jeff for many projects, and would recommend him as great to deal with.  He does individual page size decals on his Alps printer for around 21.00 a sheet.

John Kellett
Saginaw, MI




________________________________
From: brianehni <behni@...>
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, May 18, 2010 12:05:37 PM
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Chateau Martin Wine Car Photos

 
I emailed Protocraft, and got this response:

sorry, no. It's a big expense to produce these and there is a 125
minimum

Unless a lot more people ask them, it looks like a dead end, unless Ted can do as Dave suggests.

Brian Ehni

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "ealabhan0" <ealabhan0@> wrote:

Brian,
Second the motion, not just for those Chateau Martin wine cars, but also the Norfork Southern 1932 AAR boxcars and the West India Fruit boxcars. Perhaps some reciprocity - they issue Ted Culotta's artwork in O scale, Speedwitch Media releases their artwork in HO?
Dave Sieber, Reno NV

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "brianehni" <behni@> wrote:

Wish they would do them in HO!
And

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Eugene Deimling" <losgatos48@> wrote:
Protocraft developed artwork for four different CMWX sets for the ¼" scale market.
http://www.protocraft.com/category.cfm?Categoryid=1
They are also releasing Speedwitch decals in ¼" scale along with artwork by Protocraft.








Tim O'Connor made me do it

jerryglow2
 

At Tim's request, I've added a DSS&A decal set good for Ps-1s and AARs. This was a real case of cooperation from several list members esp Dennis Storzk who provided some excellent drawings of the logos.

see the new list at:
http://home.comcast.net/~jerryglow/decals.html

Jerry Glow


Re: Chateau Martin Wine Car Photos

John Kellett
 

Brian,

Talk to Jeffrey Damerst at Shawmut Car Shops.  Here is his website: http://www.shawmutcarshops.com/ and you can see some of his work.
I have used Jeff for many projects, and would recommend him as great to deal with.  He does individual page size decals on his Alps printer for around 21.00 a sheet.

John Kellett
Saginaw, MI




________________________________
From: brianehni <behni@att.net>
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, May 18, 2010 12:05:37 PM
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Chateau Martin Wine Car Photos

 
I emailed Protocraft, and got this response:

sorry, no. It's a big expense to produce these and there is a 125
minimum

Unless a lot more people ask them, it looks like a dead end, unless Ted can do as Dave suggests.

Brian Ehni

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "ealabhan0" <ealabhan0@...> wrote:

Brian,
Second the motion, not just for those Chateau Martin wine cars, but also the Norfork Southern 1932 AAR boxcars and the West India Fruit boxcars. Perhaps some reciprocity - they issue Ted Culotta's artwork in O scale, Speedwitch Media releases their artwork in HO?
Dave Sieber, Reno NV

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "brianehni" <behni@> wrote:

Wish they would do them in HO!
And

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Eugene Deimling" <losgatos48@> wrote:
Protocraft developed artwork for four different CMWX sets for the ¼" scale market.
http://www.protocraft.com/category.cfm?Categoryid=1
They are also releasing Speedwitch decals in ¼" scale along with artwork by Protocraft.






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Re: Chateau Martin Wine Car Photos

brianehni <behni@...>
 

I emailed Protocraft, and got this response:

sorry, no. It's a big expense to produce these and there is a 125
minimum

Unless a lot more people ask them, it looks like a dead end, unless Ted can do as Dave suggests.

Brian Ehni

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "ealabhan0" <ealabhan0@...> wrote:

Brian,
Second the motion, not just for those Chateau Martin wine cars, but also the Norfork Southern 1932 AAR boxcars and the West India Fruit boxcars. Perhaps some reciprocity - they issue Ted Culotta's artwork in O scale, Speedwitch Media releases their artwork in HO?
Dave Sieber, Reno NV

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "brianehni" <behni@> wrote:

Wish they would do them in HO!
And

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Eugene Deimling" <losgatos48@> wrote:
Protocraft developed artwork for four different CMWX sets for the ¼" scale market.
http://www.protocraft.com/category.cfm?Categoryid=1
They are also releasing Speedwitch decals in ¼" scale along with artwork by Protocraft.


Re: Grain capy

Clark Propst
 

Thank you Steve. I had asked a guy who'd work at an elevator for car capy in bushels, but they don't grow wheat around here.

I did get a kick out of some replies. It's like we used to say at work "Ask an engineer for the time and they'll tell you how to build a watch".

Thanks again all!
Clark Propst

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