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Re: Interesting Box Cars, but no models? Part 1
Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
Aley, Jeff A wrote:
Mike,And also done in brass IIRC. Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA 2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com (510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@signaturepress.com Publishers of books on railroad history
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Re: Terry Wegmann PFE R-30-16 conversion sets
rwitt_2000
Andy Carlson wrote:
R-30-16 conversion sets, made to change a Red Caboose R-30-12 into the steel roofed rebuild class of R-30-16s, a very large class of PFE reefers. According to Terry, in the post WWll era, this was the most numerous class of reefers on the PFE roster. also machined the RC wooden ends to fit the roof profile. These parts are included in the set, including steel hatch covers, styrene strip for the end fascia, pre-bent wire roof grabs, molded styrene Bettendorf cross-bearers (to replace the poorly executed ones from the RC kit) and a R-30-18 wood running board (injection molded styrene). uncovered an overlooked one dozen of these sets. will not make anymore), for $16.00 each. Shipping is $1.80 in a padded envelope. this conversion. I will sell these for $32.00, shipping postpaid, with a conversion setincluded. I have only 2 of these. to all of you out there, -Andy CarlsonAccording to the announcement from IRC they state: "HO PFE WOOD REFRIGERATOR CAR Terry Wegman has made parts available to us to produce two versions and several paint schemes with his PFE Wood Refrigerator Car. These are unique cars from the transition era produced using parts that will generate very highly detailed, accurate models. Don't miss this great opportunity to enhance your PFE fleet." Regards, Bob Witt
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Re: Interesting Box Cars, but no models? Part 1
Yeah, BUT it was a Private Stock kit I have never seen offered by Martin at Naperville's since I have been coming nor at any other shows. It was done in 2005 and I really want one.
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 Brian Carlson
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From: Aley, Jeff A <Jeff.A.Aley@intel.com> Subject: RE: [STMFC] Interesting Box Cars, but no models? Part 1 To: "STMFC@yahoogroups.com" <STMFC@yahoogroups.com> Date: Thursday, May 20, 2010, 4:33 PM  Mike, The UP B-50-17 is a rebuild, but it’s not a USRA rebuild, and it was produced as a resin kit by Sunshine (masters by Ted Culotta). Regards, -Jeff From: STMFC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:STMFC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Aufderheide Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 9:05 AM To: Steam Freight Car Subject: RE: [STMFC] Interesting Box Cars, but no models? Part 1 Elden, In addition to the cars you mention, I noticed as I went through the 1050 ORER several others. The list below are those cars that I could not find evidence of being modeled (not brass) based on my limited knowledge and library. These cars are only from the most numerous box/auto cars of a particular road. Any corrections are welcome. Road Quantity Type Class Length Const. Door IH Type Model Number Series ACL 2,466 auto O-16A to C 40' steel, reblt 14' double 10'-4" none 55000 CO 1,924 box 40' steel 6' 8'-7" Sim to '23 AAR None 8000, 254400, 258000, 282000 CNW 1,486 box 40' ss 6' 10'-0" reblt from auto cars None 63000, 74900 CNW 1,009 box 40' steel 6' 8'-7" USRA Clone/Rebuid None 60000 ERIE 2,639 box 40' steel 6' 8'-6" -8'-8" 23 ARA none? 70000, 71000, 72505, 75000, 75500, 84000 IC 1,472 box 50' steel 6' 10'4" steel None 32000, 33000 IC 1,292 auto 40' steel 14'-0"to14'-1" 10'-6"to10'-8" steel None 35500, 36000, 37000 MILW 1,136 auto 40' ss 12' 10'-7" ss w/raised roof none 595489, 597000 MILW 968 box 40' ss? 6' 10'-0" none 718000, 718500 MP 1,697 box 40' ss 6' 10'-0" ss None 42000, 43000, 44500 NW 2,479 box B-5 40' steel 6' 10'-4" steel None 43000, 48000, 49500 NCStL 1,193 box 36' steel 6' 9'-10" steel, rebuilt None 20000 NYC 2,973 auto 40' steel 12'-0" 10'-4" & 6" 1916 ds rebuild None 56400, 57100, 60000, 63000, 63150, 63350, 68000, 79652, 83575, 197000, 208000 NYC 2,486 auto 40' steel 10' 9'-4" None 147000 PRR 2,299 auto X38 50' steel 14'-6" 10'-8" steel None 58100, 73699 SEA 2,925 vent V-9 40' ds 6' 7'-6" ds None 28000, 79000, 89000 UP 2,282 box B-50-17 40' steel 6' 9'-4" USRA ds rebuild None? 180000 WAB 1,975 auto 40' ss 12' 10'-3" None? 17000. 44119, 48000, 49000, 49100, 49200, 49350. 49451,49627, 49652, 49700, 148001... The top of my most-wanted list would be the Seaboard vented boxcars. These were still the most numerous cars on that road in 1950 and I constantly see them in photographs. Regards, Mike Aufderheide --- On Wed, 5/19/10, Gatwood, Elden J SAD <elden.j.gatwood@usace.army.mil<mailto:elden.j.gatwood%40usace.army.mil>> wrote: From: Gatwood, Elden J SAD <elden.j.gatwood@usace.army.mil<mailto:elden.j.gatwood%40usace.army.mil>> Subject: RE: [STMFC] Interesting Box Cars, but no models? Part 1 To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com<mailto:STMFC%40yahoogroups.com> Date: Wednesday, May 19, 2010, 6:33 AM All; I have been re-reading many of the landmark articles on box cars that Ed Hawkins, Richard Hendrickson, Rich Burg, Jim Eager and others wrote for the mags in the late 80's and 90's, and was wondering why some of these interesting box cars have not been produced in model, much less RTR form. Beginning with the 50-foot single sheathed cars (Rich Burg article - RMJ Nov '89), there are very appealing cars that MILW, Bamberger, CB&Q, GN, NP, MP (later AC&Y), and RI owned. I am aware of the Westerfield GN car, but does anyone make any of the others in HO? Given these were around for a long time (into the 60's at least), and were such significant cars, and also given the numerous oddballs one finds in resin form, I am surprised I haven't seen these more numerous and important cars in HO. Elden Gatwood [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: Interesting Box Cars, but no models? Part 1
Michael Aufderheide
Jeff,
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 Thanks! One less to worry over.  Mike Aufderheide
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From: Aley, Jeff A <Jeff.A.Aley@intel.com> Subject: RE: [STMFC] Interesting Box Cars, but no models? Part 1 To: "STMFC@yahoogroups.com" <STMFC@yahoogroups.com> Date: Thursday, May 20, 2010, 3:33 PM  Mike, The UP B-50-17 is a rebuild, but it’s not a USRA rebuild, and it was produced as a resin kit by Sunshine (masters by Ted Culotta). Regards, -Jeff From: STMFC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:STMFC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Aufderheide Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 9:05 AM To: Steam Freight Car Subject: RE: [STMFC] Interesting Box Cars, but no models? Part 1 Elden, In addition to the cars you mention, I noticed as I went through the 1050 ORER several others. The list below are those cars that I could not find evidence of being modeled (not brass) based on my limited knowledge and library. These cars are only from the most numerous box/auto cars of a particular road. Any corrections are welcome. Road Quantity Type Class Length Const. Door IH Type Model Number Series ACL 2,466 auto O-16A to C 40' steel, reblt 14' double 10'-4" none 55000 CO 1,924 box 40' steel 6' 8'-7" Sim to '23 AAR None 8000, 254400, 258000, 282000 CNW 1,486 box 40' ss 6' 10'-0" reblt from auto cars None 63000, 74900 CNW 1,009 box 40' steel 6' 8'-7" USRA Clone/Rebuid None 60000 ERIE 2,639 box 40' steel 6' 8'-6" -8'-8" 23 ARA none? 70000, 71000, 72505, 75000, 75500, 84000 IC 1,472 box 50' steel 6' 10'4" steel None 32000, 33000 IC 1,292 auto 40' steel 14'-0"to14'-1" 10'-6"to10'-8" steel None 35500, 36000, 37000 MILW 1,136 auto 40' ss 12' 10'-7" ss w/raised roof none 595489, 597000 MILW 968 box 40' ss? 6' 10'-0" none 718000, 718500 MP 1,697 box 40' ss 6' 10'-0" ss None 42000, 43000, 44500 NW 2,479 box B-5 40' steel 6' 10'-4" steel None 43000, 48000, 49500 NCStL 1,193 box 36' steel 6' 9'-10" steel, rebuilt None 20000 NYC 2,973 auto 40' steel 12'-0" 10'-4" & 6" 1916 ds rebuild None 56400, 57100, 60000, 63000, 63150, 63350, 68000, 79652, 83575, 197000, 208000 NYC 2,486 auto 40' steel 10' 9'-4" None 147000 PRR 2,299 auto X38 50' steel 14'-6" 10'-8" steel None 58100, 73699 SEA 2,925 vent V-9 40' ds 6' 7'-6" ds None 28000, 79000, 89000 UP 2,282 box B-50-17 40' steel 6' 9'-4" USRA ds rebuild None? 180000 WAB 1,975 auto 40' ss 12' 10'-3" None? 17000. 44119, 48000, 49000, 49100, 49200, 49350. 49451,49627, 49652, 49700, 148001... The top of my most-wanted list would be the Seaboard vented boxcars. These were still the most numerous cars on that road in 1950 and I constantly see them in photographs. Regards, Mike Aufderheide --- On Wed, 5/19/10, Gatwood, Elden J SAD <elden.j.gatwood@usace.army.mil<mailto:elden.j.gatwood%40usace.army.mil>> wrote: From: Gatwood, Elden J SAD <elden.j.gatwood@usace.army.mil<mailto:elden.j.gatwood%40usace.army.mil>> Subject: RE: [STMFC] Interesting Box Cars, but no models? Part 1 To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com<mailto:STMFC%40yahoogroups.com> Date: Wednesday, May 19, 2010, 6:33 AM All; I have been re-reading many of the landmark articles on box cars that Ed Hawkins, Richard Hendrickson, Rich Burg, Jim Eager and others wrote for the mags in the late 80's and 90's, and was wondering why some of these interesting box cars have not been produced in model, much less RTR form. Beginning with the 50-foot single sheathed cars (Rich Burg article - RMJ Nov '89), there are very appealing cars that MILW, Bamberger, CB&Q, GN, NP, MP (later AC&Y), and RI owned. I am aware of the Westerfield GN car, but does anyone make any of the others in HO? Given these were around for a long time (into the 60's at least), and were such significant cars, and also given the numerous oddballs one finds in resin form, I am surprised I haven't seen these more numerous and important cars in HO. Elden Gatwood [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: Interesting Box Cars, but no models? Part 1
Aley, Jeff A
Mike,
The UP B-50-17 is a rebuild, but it’s not a USRA rebuild, and it was produced as a resin kit by Sunshine (masters by Ted Culotta). Regards, -Jeff From: STMFC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:STMFC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Aufderheide Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 9:05 AM To: Steam Freight Car Subject: RE: [STMFC] Interesting Box Cars, but no models? Part 1 Elden, In addition to the cars you mention, I noticed as I went through the 1050 ORER several others. The list below are those cars that I could not find evidence of being modeled (not brass) based on my limited knowledge and library. These cars are only from the most numerous box/auto cars of a particular road. Any corrections are welcome. Road Quantity Type Class Length Const. Door IH Type Model Number Series ACL 2,466 auto O-16A to C 40' steel, reblt 14' double 10'-4" none 55000 CO 1,924 box 40' steel 6' 8'-7" Sim to '23 AAR None 8000, 254400, 258000, 282000 CNW 1,486 box 40' ss 6' 10'-0" reblt from auto cars None 63000, 74900 CNW 1,009 box 40' steel 6' 8'-7" USRA Clone/Rebuid None 60000 ERIE 2,639 box 40' steel 6' 8'-6" -8'-8" 23 ARA none? 70000, 71000, 72505, 75000, 75500, 84000 IC 1,472 box 50' steel 6' 10'4" steel None 32000, 33000 IC 1,292 auto 40' steel 14'-0"to14'-1" 10'-6"to10'-8" steel None 35500, 36000, 37000 MILW 1,136 auto 40' ss 12' 10'-7" ss w/raised roof none 595489, 597000 MILW 968 box 40' ss? 6' 10'-0" none 718000, 718500 MP 1,697 box 40' ss 6' 10'-0" ss None 42000, 43000, 44500 NW 2,479 box B-5 40' steel 6' 10'-4" steel None 43000, 48000, 49500 NCStL 1,193 box 36' steel 6' 9'-10" steel, rebuilt None 20000 NYC 2,973 auto 40' steel 12'-0" 10'-4" & 6" 1916 ds rebuild None 56400, 57100, 60000, 63000, 63150, 63350, 68000, 79652, 83575, 197000, 208000 NYC 2,486 auto 40' steel 10' 9'-4" None 147000 PRR 2,299 auto X38 50' steel 14'-6" 10'-8" steel None 58100, 73699 SEA 2,925 vent V-9 40' ds 6' 7'-6" ds None 28000, 79000, 89000 UP 2,282 box B-50-17 40' steel 6' 9'-4" USRA ds rebuild None? 180000 WAB 1,975 auto 40' ss 12' 10'-3" None? 17000. 44119, 48000, 49000, 49100, 49200, 49350. 49451,49627, 49652, 49700, 148001... The top of my most-wanted list would be the Seaboard vented boxcars. These were still the most numerous cars on that road in 1950 and I constantly see them in photographs. Regards, Mike Aufderheide --- On Wed, 5/19/10, Gatwood, Elden J SAD <elden.j.gatwood@usace.army.mil<mailto:elden.j.gatwood%40usace.army.mil>> wrote: From: Gatwood, Elden J SAD <elden.j.gatwood@usace.army.mil<mailto:elden.j.gatwood%40usace.army.mil>> Subject: RE: [STMFC] Interesting Box Cars, but no models? Part 1 To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com<mailto:STMFC%40yahoogroups.com> Date: Wednesday, May 19, 2010, 6:33 AM All; I have been re-reading many of the landmark articles on box cars that Ed Hawkins, Richard Hendrickson, Rich Burg, Jim Eager and others wrote for the mags in the late 80's and 90's, and was wondering why some of these interesting box cars have not been produced in model, much less RTR form. Beginning with the 50-foot single sheathed cars (Rich Burg article - RMJ Nov '89), there are very appealing cars that MILW, Bamberger, CB&Q, GN, NP, MP (later AC&Y), and RI owned. I am aware of the Westerfield GN car, but does anyone make any of the others in HO? Given these were around for a long time (into the 60's at least), and were such significant cars, and also given the numerous oddballs one finds in resin form, I am surprised I haven't seen these more numerous and important cars in HO. Elden Gatwood
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Re: Terry Wegmann PFE R-30-16 conversion sets
Bruce Smith offers this clarification:
for the more adventurous, the R-30-13-16 variant can be modeled with theRC R-30-9 body, the Wegman roof and either a Wegman (R-30-18) or TichyTo which Tom Madden replies: Maybe I'll just stick with steel PFE reefers....Tom, That's BORING <VBG>. What is so much fun for me is the ability to show the evolution of PFE design from the R-30-12/13 to the all wood R-30-12/13-9, to the metal roofed R-30-12/13-16 to the metal roof and ends on the R-30-12/13-18, while showing the presence of 2 differenent underbodies (-12, -13) throughout that progression! Regards Bruce Smith Auburn, AL
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Re: Terry Wegmann PFE R-30-16 conversion sets
pullmanboss <tcmadden@...>
Bruce Smith offers this clarification:
Maybe I'll just stick with steel PFE reefers..... Tom Madden
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Re: Interesting Box Cars, but no models? Part 1
Michael Aufderheide
Elden,
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 In addition to the cars you mention, I noticed as I went through the 1050 ORER several others.  The list below are those cars that I could not find evidence of being modeled (not brass) based on my limited knowledge and library. These cars are only from the most numerous box/auto cars of a particular road. Any corrections are welcome.  Road Quantity Type Class Length Const. Door IH Type Model Number Series ACL 2,466 auto O-16A to C 40' steel, reblt 14' double 10'-4"  none 55000 CO 1,924 box  40' steel 6' 8'-7" Sim to '23 AAR None 8000, 254400, 258000, 282000 CNW 1,486 box  40' ss 6' 10'-0" reblt from auto cars None 63000, 74900 CNW 1,009 box 40' steel 6' 8'-7" USRA Clone/Rebuid None 60000 ERIE 2,639 box  40' steel 6' 8'-6" -8'-8" 23 ARA none? 70000, 71000, 72505, 75000, 75500, 84000 IC 1,472 box  50' steel 6' 10'4" steel None 32000, 33000 IC 1,292 auto  40' steel 14'-0"to14'-1" 10'-6"to10'-8" steel None 35500, 36000, 37000 MILW 1,136 auto  40' ss 12' 10'-7" ss w/raised roof none  595489, 597000 MILW 968 box  40' ss? 6' 10'-0"  none 718000, 718500 MP 1,697 box  40' ss 6' 10'-0" ss None 42000, 43000, 44500 NW 2,479 box B-5 40' steel 6' 10'-4" steel None 43000, 48000, 49500 NCStL 1,193 box 36' steel 6' 9'-10" steel, rebuilt None 20000 NYC 2,973 auto  40' steel 12'-0" 10'-4" & 6" 1916 ds rebuild None 56400, 57100, 60000, 63000, 63150, 63350, 68000, 79652, 83575, 197000, 208000 NYC 2,486 auto  40' steel 10' 9'-4"  None 147000 PRR 2,299 auto X38 50' steel 14'-6" 10'-8" steel None 58100, 73699 SEA 2,925 vent V-9 40' ds 6' 7'-6" ds None 28000, 79000, 89000 UP 2,282 box B-50-17 40' steel 6' 9'-4" USRA ds rebuild None? 180000 WAB 1,975 auto  40' ss 12' 10'-3"  None? 17000. 44119, 48000, 49000, 49100, 49200, 49350. 49451,49627, 49652, 49700, 148001... The top of my most-wanted list would be the Seaboard vented boxcars. These were still the most numerous cars on that road in 1950 and I constantly see them in photographs.  Regards,  Mike Aufderheide
--- On Wed, 5/19/10, Gatwood, Elden J SAD <elden.j.gatwood@usace.army.mil> wrote:
From: Gatwood, Elden J SAD <elden.j.gatwood@usace.army.mil> Subject: RE: [STMFC] Interesting Box Cars, but no models? Part 1 To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, May 19, 2010, 6:33 AM Â All; I have been re-reading many of the landmark articles on box cars that Ed Hawkins, Richard Hendrickson, Rich Burg, Jim Eager and others wrote for the mags in the late 80's and 90's, and was wondering why some of these interesting box cars have not been produced in model, much less RTR form. Beginning with the 50-foot single sheathed cars (Rich Burg article - RMJ Nov '89), there are very appealing cars that MILW, Bamberger, CB&Q, GN, NP, MP (later AC&Y), and RI owned. I am aware of the Westerfield GN car, but does anyone make any of the others in HO? Given these were around for a long time (into the 60's at least), and were such significant cars, and also given the numerous oddballs one finds in resin form, I am surprised I haven't seen these more numerous and important cars in HO. Elden Gatwood [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: Grain capy
Gene <bierglaeser@...>
I tried to resist responding to this but the flesh is weak.
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Grain doors nailed all the way to the top of the doors would trap inside the car the guy who nailed them up. Besides, how could the car be loaded? That said, after World War Two the M&StL was buying box cars with a 10'-0" inside height when many other railroads were buying 10'-6" IH box cars. As was mentioned in another message, there were lines stenciled on the box car sides showing the level to fill the car with various grains. In the M&StL's cars (and no doubt those of many other railroads) wheat was the lowest line. About 4 inches above that was the line for corn, rye and flax. The barley line was 7 or 8 inches above the corn-rye-flax line. The line for oats was very near the top of the car's side. That suggests to me that the M&StL bought all those 10'-0" IH box cars with grain hauling in mind. Gene Green
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Re: new F&C kits & new B&O flat
Gatwood, Elden J SAD
All;
For the first time since the PRRT&HS convention, I got to sit down and open up some of my new purchases. I had picked up several new Funaro & Camerlengo kits; the PRR H25, the H33, the GLE, and the new X26C with diagonal panel roof. I have always been really intimidated by resin hopper kits. The fact that everything is exposed, the complicated slopes and numerous mating surfaces. Well, the H25 was a real surprise. It has a very nice one-piece body, onto which you tack all the remaining parts. The rivets are very fine, the ribs all look like the real thing. The H33 covered hopper is also very nice. They even did the proper rendition of the Z-angle ribs! The GLE is of the same caliber. The new X26C is also very nice, and the one-piece body is great. You just sand the underframe to fit, add some weight, and pop into place. You should consider these new kits. They also offer 2 for 1 deals at meets. I also opened up my new IM B&O P-31 bulkhead flat. It looks just like the real thing. Jim Mischke provided IM the plans for the bulkheads, so it is accurate for the B&O. I am not sure about any others as far as bulkheads go. The P-31's were converted over in 1956 or so, and were intended, I believe, for wallboard service, but I also saw them loaded with steel sheets banded and placed on top of wooden dunnage. The deck and wooden bulkhead pieces are a bit thick, but you can correct that pretty easily by prying them loose and sanding them down. You have another accurate car for your fleet. Elden Gatwood
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Re: Terry Wegmann PFE R-30-16 conversion sets
Tom, that's right. I think people just forget that Red Caboose actually"Tim O'Connor" <timboconnor@comcast.net> 05/19/10 7:48 PM >>> made two different PFE reefers, the R-30-12 and the R-30-9 rebuilds (that were originally tagged R-30-12-9). Tim O'Connor Tim, folks, Absolutely! The Wegman/RC kitbash models an R-30-12-16. The R-30-12-16s were rebuilt from R-30-12 cars, to R-30-12-9 specs so the RC R-30-12-9 (or R-30-9) is the appropriate raw material as it yelids the correct height body. R-30-13-12s were also used for R-30-16 conversions so for the more adventurous, the R-30-13-16 variant can be modeled with the RC R-30-9 body, the Wegman roof and either a Wegman (R-30-18) or Tichy underbody (R-40-2/4) . If you have a Wegman R-30-18 kit, you can use the leftover RC underbody to model the R-30-12-18, instead of the R-30-13-18, which that kit models. God, I LOVE PFE reefer classes!! Regards Bruce Smith Auburn, AL
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Re: Terry Wegmann PFE R-30-16 conversion sets
Bill Welch
Hi Jerry
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I like your model. I did mine using a special order Champ set of UP heralds with the red and white stripes reversed. There is a photo of one of these in the PFE book and I have since seen a second photo of a car with this herald variation, one of the 47' cars as I recall. This was when Champ was doing custom Alps versions from their art work. Some others on this list participated in this order. Bill Welch
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Re: Terry Wegmann PFE R-30-16 conversion sets
Andy Carlson
Tom, you are right. The R-30-12 is too low in height. Thanks for pointing out my mistake.
-Andy Carlson Ojai CA ________________________________ From: pullmanboss <tcmadden@q.com> To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, May 19, 2010 5:22:28 PM Subject: [STMFC] Re: Terry Wegmann PFE R-30-16 conversion sets Andy Carlson wrote: Hmmmm. My R-30-16 kit from Terry says it's "For R-30-9 (Red Caboose #4250)". Tom Madden [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: Terry Wegmann PFE R-30-16 conversion sets
Tom, that's right. I think people just forget that Red Caboose actually
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made two different PFE reefers, the R-30-12 and the R-30-9 rebuilds (that were originally tagged R-30-12-9). Tim O'Connor
Andy Carlson wrote:Hmmmm. My R-30-16 kit from Terry says it's "For R-30-9 (Red Caboose #4250)".
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Re: Terry Wegmann PFE R-30-16 conversion sets
pullmanboss <tcmadden@...>
Andy Carlson wrote:
Hmmmm. My R-30-16 kit from Terry says it's "For R-30-9 (Red Caboose #4250)". Tom Madden
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Wegmann R-30-16 conversion sets are sold out
Andy Carlson
Thanks, they are all spoken for.
-Andy Carlson Ojai CA
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Re: Terry Wegmann PFE R-30-16 conversion sets
jerryglow2
The model, completed when Terry first started doing them:
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http://home.comcast.net/~jerryglow/modeling/PFE_74492R-A_end.jpg http://home.comcast.net/~jerryglow/modeling/PFE_74492R-B_end.jpg Jerry Glow http://home.comcast.net/~jerryglow/decals.html
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Re: Terry Wegmann PFE R-30-16 conversion sets
Bill Welch
These build into really nice models! An unpaid and unsolicited endorsement.
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Bill Welch
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Terry Wegmann PFE R-30-16 conversion sets
Andy Carlson
Many will remember the special run Terry Wegmann made 7 years ago of R-30-16 conversion sets, made to change a Red Caboose R-30-12 into the steel roofed rebuild class of R-30-16s, a very large class of PFE reefers. According to Terry, in the post WWll era, this was the most numerous class of reefers on the PFE roster.
Briefly, Terry machined his R-30-18 steel roof to fit the RC body. He also machined the RC wooden ends to fit the roof profile. These parts are included in the set, including steel hatch covers, styrene strip for the end fascia, pre-bent wire roof grabs, molded styrene Bettendorf cross-bearers (to replace the poorly executed ones from the RC kit) and a R-30-18 wood running board (injection molded styrene). I have been out of these for about 2 years, until this morning when I uncovered an overlooked one dozen of these sets. I am offering these, the last ones available (Terry has stated that he will not make anymore), for $16.00 each. Shipping is $1.80 in a padded envelope. I also have 2 of the latest run of RC undec kits as the donor cars for this conversion. I will sell these for $32.00, shipping postpaid, with a conversion set included. I have only 2 of these. If interested, contact me off-list at <midcentury@sbcglobal.net> I accept PayPal, personal checks, and money orders. Thanks Mike, and to all of you out there, -Andy Carlson Ojai CA
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**HEY** Re: Tim O'Connor made me do it
pullmanboss <tcmadden@...>
Geeze, Tim, if we do that, I'll never be able to suggest "Glow 'n the Dork" as the name for Jerry's decal company! :-)
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Tom Madden
--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:
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