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Re: PRR X-29's, NYC Lot 486 and then?

soolinehistory <destorzek@...>
 

--- In STMFC@..., richtownsend@... wrote:

Sheesh. I can't believe anyone even has to ask this question. We (I) need Enterprise GS gons. C&S and several other roads.
What, might I ask, was wrong with the ones done already? Both Detail Associates and Red Caboose did both the composite and all steel Enterprise cars as used by UP and SP, RC even did the alternate chain door mechanisms (as opposed to the patented "link" mechanism). There's no good reason to invest in tooling if no one buys the models that are already produced.

Dennis


Re: IC 40' box car decal

Tim O'Connor
 

Staffan, the Illinois Central (steam era) has really gotten the
short end of the stick decal-wise, even while Dan Kohlberg has
produced a boatload of beautiful IC/ICG decals for the post-STMFC
era. Even CDS, and Mark Vaughan, ignored the IC. I sent a copy of
a beautiful photo of IC 20223 (stenciled for automobile engine
loading and a "return empty to" stencil) to Intermountain in the
hope they would produce a model of the IC "1940" AAR box cars but
no luck there either. I agree with you about the shortcomings of
Champ HB-150 but that's just about all there is...

Tim O'Connor

At 5/28/2010 03:40 PM Friday, you wrote:
Where can I find lettering for an HO 40' IC box car like the 18629 in the photo on p. 22 of the RP Cyc 4? The Champ set no. HB-150 seems a bit oversized judging by the Champ Lettering Plan Book. Thanks in advance,

Staffan Ehnbom


Re: IC 40' box car decal

Frederick Freitas <prrinvt@...>
 

Steffan,

            Check the messages section of the group site. IIRC, a list member
was advertising IC decals within the past 2 weeks.

Fred Freitas




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From: frtcar <staffan.ehnbom@...>
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Fri, May 28, 2010 3:40:45 PM
Subject: [STMFC] IC 40' box car decal

 
Where can I find lettering for an HO 40' IC box car like the 18629 in the photo on p. 22 of the RP Cyc 4? The Champ set no. HB-150 seems a bit oversized judging by the Champ Lettering Plan Book. Thanks in advance,

Staffan Ehnbom




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Re: How many C&MI 70-ton gons

proto48er
 

Al -

See post #81519 on this list. That covers all of them built up to 1948 (there were some later-built cars I have no info on).

A.T. Kott

--- In STMFC@..., "al.kresse" <water.kresse@...> wrote:

How many 1927 blt 70-ton "fish-belly" gondola coal cars did the C&MI purchase for their mine to Illinois River barge loading facility runs? Series split and builders info . . . and how long did they use them?


Re: Wish List - May 2010 release

Charlie Vlk
 

Bill-
Now that I think of it, for some reason, it seems like a good idea to me too!!! In N Scale even!!!
Charlie Vlk


How many C&MI 70-ton gons

al.kresse <water.kresse@...>
 

How many 1927 blt 70-ton "fish-belly" gondola coal cars did the C&MI purchase for their mine to Illinois River barge loading facility runs? Series split and builders info . . . and how long did they use them?


IC 40' box car decal

frtcar <staffan.ehnbom@...>
 

Where can I find lettering for an HO 40' IC box car like the 18629 in the photo on p. 22 of the RP Cyc 4? The Champ set no. HB-150 seems a bit oversized judging by the Champ Lettering Plan Book. Thanks in advance,

Staffan Ehnbom


Re: Wish List - May 2010 release

Clark Propst
 

I'm with Gene.
Clark Propst

--- In STMFC@..., "Gene" <bierglaeser@...> wrote:

While there are a box car and a gondola I'd like to see. Since they were apparently unique to the M&StL I figure there is no chance. On the other hand GATX and/or UTLX tank cars would be nice. These could, I believe, be used rather widely both in terms of time period and geographic location.

Gene Green


Re: Wish List - May 2010 release

Gene <bierglaeser@...>
 

While there are a box car and a gondola I'd like to see. Since they were apparently unique to the M&StL I figure there is no chance. On the other hand GATX and/or UTLX tank cars would be nice. These could, I believe, be used rather widely both in terms of time period and geographic location.

Gene Green


Re: Wish List - May 2010 release

William Keene <wakeene@...>
 

Hello Group,

OK. Yes. I will take one. Now all we need to do is find someone else to pick up the other 14,999.

Cheers,
Bill Keene
Irvine, CA


On May 28, 2010, at 12:17 PM, richtownsend@... wrote:

Hey! I just had a great idea, came to me seemingly out of nowhere! How about a CB&Q 50ft 1-1/2 door single sheathed box car?

Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, Oregon

-----Original Message-----
From: cvlk <cvlk@...>
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Fri, May 28, 2010 12:12 pm
Subject: [STMFC] Wish List - May 2010 release

I don't know about "large quantity", but it seems to me that a 50 FT 1 1/2 Door Single Sheathed box car is missing from ALL the popular scales. As far as I can recall, the only production model was from Con-Cor in N Scale years ago. I think the type was more common than the modeled 50 FT Double Door that was available (Walthers and MDC/Athearn in HO and Walthers in N). Of course, determining whose car to do (Burlington) is a problem (CB&Q) because most (Q) differ in truss pattern, roof, ends, door location and other details (Burlington Route).
Charlie Vlk

What other large quantity signature item freight cars could we ask for in built up form for the transition era? Maybe from a western road like the Santa Fe?







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Re: Wish List - May 2010 release

Richard Townsend
 

Hey! I just had a great idea, came to me seemingly out of nowhere! How about a CB&Q 50ft 1-1/2 door single sheathed box car?


Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, Oregon

-----Original Message-----
From: cvlk <cvlk@...>
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Fri, May 28, 2010 12:12 pm
Subject: [STMFC] Wish List - May 2010 release




I don't know about "large quantity", but it seems to me that a 50 FT 1 1/2 Door Single Sheathed box car is missing from ALL the popular scales. As far as I can recall, the only production model was from Con-Cor in N Scale years ago. I think the type was more common than the modeled 50 FT Double Door that was available (Walthers and MDC/Athearn in HO and Walthers in N). Of course, determining whose car to do (Burlington) is a problem (CB&Q) because most (Q) differ in truss pattern, roof, ends, door location and other details (Burlington Route).
Charlie Vlk

What other large quantity signature item freight cars could we ask for in built up form for the transition era? Maybe from a western road like the Santa Fe?









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Wish List - May 2010 release

Charlie Vlk
 

I don't know about "large quantity", but it seems to me that a 50 FT 1 1/2 Door Single Sheathed box car is missing from ALL the popular scales. As far as I can recall, the only production model was from Con-Cor in N Scale years ago. I think the type was more common than the modeled 50 FT Double Door that was available (Walthers and MDC/Athearn in HO and Walthers in N). Of course, determining whose car to do (Burlington) is a problem (CB&Q) because most (Q) differ in truss pattern, roof, ends, door location and other details (Burlington Route).
Charlie Vlk



What other large quantity signature item freight cars could we ask for in built up form for the transition era? Maybe from a western road like the Santa Fe?


Wish List.... May 2010 release

Charlie Vlk
 

Not to rub it in, but we have TWO nice models of Enterprise steel GS gons in N Scale.... the Micro-Trains and a slightly longer Trainworx version.
Doesn't begin to balance off all the stuff that Walthers keeps making in HO but not N, but oh well......
Charlie Vlk


Re: PRR X-29's, NYC Lot 486 and then?

Steve Lucas <stevelucas3@...>
 

I can't speak for "Eastern" roads, but can vouch for CN having quite a few Enterprise GS gons (a thousand or more?) in 36', 40', and 48' versions.

Steve Lucas.

--- In STMFC@..., Bruce Smith <smithbf@...> wrote:

On May 28, 2010, at 1:09 PM, richtownsend@... wrote:

Sheesh. I can't believe anyone even has to ask this question. We
(I) need Enterprise GS gons. C&S and several other roads.

Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, Oregon
What do you mean "we" kemosabe? <G>

I love these speculation fests... Gons can be a bit more of a
difficult sell - any eastern roads with Enterprise gons?

I would also think that the following might be good if someone were
looking for projects:
- I second the notion of the GATC tank car
- UTLX X-3 (as I doubt I will ever get enough of Martin's kits done)
- Harriman Standard 40'10" SP/UP flat cars
- 1921/22 and 1927/28 FGE/WFE reefers (as built, not the modified IM
car)

Regards
Bruce

Bruce F. Smith
Auburn, AL
http://www.vetmed.auburn.edu/index.pl/bruce_f._smith2

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Re: PRR X-29's, NYC Lot 486 and then?

Garth G. Groff <ggg9y@...>
 

Bruce and friends,

As long as were beating dead horses, how about the 8K and 10K AC&F type
7 (?) high walkway tank cars. I especially want a couple of the the 10K
size. They are WP signature cars.

Kind regards,


Garth Groff

Bruce Smith wrote:

On May 28, 2010, at 1:09 PM, richtownsend@... wrote:


Sheesh. I can't believe anyone even has to ask this question. We
(I) need Enterprise GS gons. C&S and several other roads.

Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, Oregon
What do you mean "we" kemosabe? <G>

I love these speculation fests... Gons can be a bit more of a
difficult sell - any eastern roads with Enterprise gons?

I would also think that the following might be good if someone were
looking for projects:
- I second the notion of the GATC tank car
- UTLX X-3 (as I doubt I will ever get enough of Martin's kits done)
- Harriman Standard 40'10" SP/UP flat cars
- 1921/22 and 1927/28 FGE/WFE reefers (as built, not the modified IM
car)

Regards
Bruce

Bruce F. Smith
Auburn, AL
http://www.vetmed.auburn.edu/index.pl/bruce_f._smith2

"Some days you are the bug, some days you are the windshield."


Re: PRR X-29's, NYC Lot 486 and then?

Bruce Smith
 

On May 28, 2010, at 1:09 PM, richtownsend@... wrote:

Sheesh. I can't believe anyone even has to ask this question. We (I) need Enterprise GS gons. C&S and several other roads.

Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, Oregon
What do you mean "we" kemosabe? <G>

I love these speculation fests... Gons can be a bit more of a difficult sell - any eastern roads with Enterprise gons?

I would also think that the following might be good if someone were looking for projects:
- I second the notion of the GATC tank car
- UTLX X-3 (as I doubt I will ever get enough of Martin's kits done)
- Harriman Standard 40'10" SP/UP flat cars
- 1921/22 and 1927/28 FGE/WFE reefers (as built, not the modified IM car)

Regards
Bruce

Bruce F. Smith
Auburn, AL
http://www.vetmed.auburn.edu/index.pl/bruce_f._smith2

"Some days you are the bug, some days you are the windshield."
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Re: PRR X-29's, NYC Lot 486 and then?

Richard Townsend
 

Sheesh. I can't believe anyone even has to ask this question. We (I) need Enterprise GS gons. C&S and several other roads.





Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, Oregon


Re: PRR X-29's, NYC Lot 486 and then?

Garth G. Groff <ggg9y@...>
 

Victor and friends,

Yes, we need a General American 46' GS gondola, which is available in N-scale, but not HO. The car I'm thinking of was used in large numbers by the D&RGW and less so by the WP (but with different gate mechanisms, but I could live with a D&RGW car lettered WP). They were signature cars for both roads.

AFAIK, all the D&RGW 40' 12-panel 10'2" IH boxcars had Duryea underframes, but it is true that they were built in several lots over the years and differed in doors, roofs and ends. These are neat cars, and visually taller than the 10' IH cars of the SP and GN.

Kind regards,


Garth Groff

ealabhan0 wrote:

Victor,
As a "signature" western freight car, how about a correct D&RGW 12-panel Pressed Steel Car Co. boxcar with straight side sill? Unfortunately, they weren't built in that large number, plus the Rio Grande bought several lots with different prewar and postwar ends, Superior and Youngstown doors, even some with Duryea UF, so it would take someone with far more knowledge of the Rio Grande than I to suggest the most-common car (or with the greatest number of paint schemes) to be a viable plastic model. (It still irks me to see Intermountain GN 12-panel boxcars with incorrect prewar Youngstown doors because they were too cheap to tool a IYSD for these postwar 10ft IH boxcars (not to mention the ends)).
Another signature car is the GN's Pressed Steel Car Co. GS gondola(and possibly other roads like the D&RGW, IIRC?). There's also the SP G-50-9/-12 GS gons like the '50s Ulrich zamac model.
I'm still hoping for a plastic 8,000 and/or 10,000 gal GATC-built tankcar, much more common a prototype than Athearn's '50s-crude model of the GATC 12,500 gal tankcar (which in itself could be a great SP/UP signature car if only Athearn were to upgrade and correct the model). I won't reopen the debate about a "typical" 1950s 40ft plugdoor reefer since I'm fine with Stan Rydarowicz's conversion kits for the varied BREX/WFEX/FHIX/WHIX/NX (and PFE, etc.) reefers...
Dave Sieber, Reno NV

--- In STMFC@..., "wabash2813" <reporterllc@...> wrote:

What other large quantity signature item freight cars could we ask for in built up form for the transition era? Maybe from a western road like the Santa Fe?

Victor Baird
Fort Wayne, Indiana




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Re: PRR X-29's, NYC Lot 486 and then?

David Sieber
 

Victor,
As a "signature" western freight car, how about a correct D&RGW 12-panel Pressed Steel Car Co. boxcar with straight side sill? Unfortunately, they weren't built in that large number, plus the Rio Grande bought several lots with different prewar and postwar ends, Superior and Youngstown doors, even some with Duryea UF, so it would take someone with far more knowledge of the Rio Grande than I to suggest the most-common car (or with the greatest number of paint schemes) to be a viable plastic model. (It still irks me to see Intermountain GN 12-panel boxcars with incorrect prewar Youngstown doors because they were too cheap to tool a IYSD for these postwar 10ft IH boxcars (not to mention the ends)).
Another signature car is the GN's Pressed Steel Car Co. GS gondola(and possibly other roads like the D&RGW, IIRC?). There's also the SP G-50-9/-12 GS gons like the '50s Ulrich zamac model.
I'm still hoping for a plastic 8,000 and/or 10,000 gal GATC-built tankcar, much more common a prototype than Athearn's '50s-crude model of the GATC 12,500 gal tankcar (which in itself could be a great SP/UP signature car if only Athearn were to upgrade and correct the model). I won't reopen the debate about a "typical" 1950s 40ft plugdoor reefer since I'm fine with Stan Rydarowicz's conversion kits for the varied BREX/WFEX/FHIX/WHIX/NX (and PFE, etc.) reefers...
Dave Sieber, Reno NV

--- In STMFC@..., "wabash2813" <reporterllc@...> wrote:

What other large quantity signature item freight cars could we ask for in built up form for the transition era? Maybe from a western road like the Santa Fe?

Victor Baird
Fort Wayne, Indiana


Re: PRR X-29's, NYC Lot 486 and then?

jerryglow2
 

An ACR pattern car comes to mind....

Jerry Glow

--- In STMFC@..., "wabash2813" <reporterllc@...> wrote:

What other large quantity signature item freight cars could we ask for in built up form for the transition era? Maybe from a western road like the Santa Fe?

Victor Baird
Fort Wayne, Indiana

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