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Re: another set

 

Excellent, again, Jerry! Will be getting a decal order together, soon.
 
Rich Christie

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From: jerryglow@... <jerryglow@...>
Subject: [STMFC] another set
To: STMFC@...
Date: Friday, June 4, 2010, 1:47 PM


 



I hope the guy who goaded me into doing this set wasn't wrong. He said it would be a big seller as the Champ set is no longer available. See:
http://home.comcast.net/~jerryglow/samples/PRR_H21.jpg

I've done something new with this set to ease multiple purchasers who want a fleet. I have specific car numbers with corresponding built dates and a typical reweight date. You can of course cut and rearrange if necessary but IIRC I have numbers and data for 5 H21As and 2 H21Es on the set. One car per set.

Jerry Glow
http://home.comcast.net/~jerryglow/decals


Re: another set

Gatwood, Elden J SAD
 

Jerry;

If you want this announced in TKM, let us know. We need price, date of
availability, and where to send $$.

Elden Gatwood

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Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 2:47 PM
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Subject: [STMFC] another set



I hope the guy who goaded me into doing this set wasn't wrong. He said it
would be a big seller as the Champ set is no longer available. See:
http://home.comcast.net/~jerryglow/samples/PRR_H21.jpg

I've done something new with this set to ease multiple purchasers who want a
fleet. I have specific car numbers with corresponding built dates and a
typical reweight date. You can of course cut and rearrange if necessary but
IIRC I have numbers and data for 5 H21As and 2 H21Es on the set. One car per
set.

Jerry Glow
http://home.comcast.net/~jerryglow/decals


another set

jerryglow2
 

I hope the guy who goaded me into doing this set wasn't wrong. He said it would be a big seller as the Champ set is no longer available. See:
http://home.comcast.net/~jerryglow/samples/PRR_H21.jpg

I've done something new with this set to ease multiple purchasers who want a fleet. I have specific car numbers with corresponding built dates and a typical reweight date. You can of course cut and rearrange if necessary but IIRC I have numbers and data for 5 H21As and 2 H21Es on the set. One car per set.

Jerry Glow
http://home.comcast.net/~jerryglow/decals


Re: Terry Wegman PFE R-30-16 conversion sets

JP Barger
 

-----Original Message-----
From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...]On Behalf Of Ed
Hawkins
Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 4:57 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Terry Wegman PFE R-30-16 conversion sets

Hi, Ed et al: As you were composing your emaiI , Ed, I was on the
phone with Larry Leicht at IRC during which we were again discussing the
lettering and herald changes to item IRC 47403, PFE R-30-18. Larry concluded
that in the current run IRC should correct the colored UP herald and
continue to offer the car with the correct post 1946 double heralds ( the UP
herald in the colored version). This leaves the post 1951 scheme to a future
run, of which he will be mindful.


On Jun 2, 2010, at 12:50 PM, JP Barger wrote:

> There is one more change accurately pointed out by Ed Hawkins after a
> look
> at the flyer. That is the appearance of the colored UP shield on item
> 47403.
> It needs to be modified to remove the word Railroad from the upper
> blue
> field, and the white border on the shield needs to be removed, also.
> These
> two incorrect details (on the 1946 UP heralds) are featured later on
> the
> post 1951 black and white UP heralds. Again, there is plenty of time
> to make
> these changes.

J.P.
Of course, the other way to correct the error is to simply change the
color of the UP medallion to black and white while retaining everything
else "as is" on the model. Better yet, for modelers interested in
either the late 1940s period or the post-1953 period (which the model
#47403 would represent without periods in the reporting marks), both
versions would be appreciated.
Regards,
Ed Hawkins

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1946 NP Perishable Book

railsnw1 <railsnw@...>
 

I have posted to STMFPH (the old photo overflow site) a pdf file of a 1946 Northern Pacific book on handling of perishables. It is in the files section in the folder 1946 NP Perishable Book. The file is fairly large, almost 4MB, and for some reason my pdf creator has made it a little blurry. I placed it in the other site's files section because STMFC is at its max.

I also have this in word which is clearer but it is 10MB in size and is too large to be posted. I can send this if someone is interested.

The book has lots of good info on how refrigerator cars were loaded and handled.

Rich


Re: IM upcoming PFE Reefers

Paul Lyons
 

Great answer...

Paul Lyons

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From: Andy Carlson <midcentury@...>
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Thu, Jun 3, 2010 9:35 pm
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: IM upcoming PFE Reefers




I only bet on sure things.....
-Andy Carlson

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To: STMFC@...
Sent: Thu, June 3, 2010 9:26:43 PM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: IM upcoming PFE Reefers

So Andy, What is your bet? Frank will correct the paint, or just not worry about it, because they are going to sell out one way or the other.

Paul Lyons

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Re: IM upcoming PFE Reefers

Andy Carlson
 

I only bet on sure things.....
-Andy Carlson





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To: STMFC@...
Sent: Thu, June 3, 2010 9:26:43 PM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: IM upcoming PFE Reefers



So Andy, What is your bet? Frank will correct the paint, or just not worry about it, because they are going to sell out one way or the other.

Paul Lyons

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Re: IM upcoming PFE Reefers

Paul Lyons
 

So Andy, What is your bet? Frank will correct the paint, or just not worry about it, because they are going to sell out one way or the other.

Paul Lyons

-----Original Message-----
From: Andy Carlson <midcentury@...>
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Thu, Jun 3, 2010 9:20 pm
Subject: [STMFC] Re: IM upcoming PFE Reefers






I have been a dealer with Intermountain for over 10 years, and I have enjoyed purchases from their "Inventory Reduction sales" which allows me passing bargains onto fellow modelers. I have seen many boxcars, tank cars, flats and reefers, including Tichy stuff, come up specially priced, but NEVER have I seen any of Terry's wood side reefers get clearanced. Frank has admitted that they sell-out, but he seems to be always reluctant to rerun them. This run came about because of Terry's persistence. Frank makes the claim that the Chinese factory complains about assembling the flat kits, though I think he may be exaggerating a bit, for I have found the fit of Terry's refrigerator car parts to be nice and precise.
-Andy Carlson

Paul said:

IM has been doing these R-30-18, 19, and 21 PFE reefers for the 5, or 6 years, and has "blown" the correct paint on almost all of them. I see no reason why they would correct this run, since they sell them out in a hurry, right, or wrong!

Paul Lyons

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Re: IM upcoming PFE Reefers

Andy Carlson
 

I have been a dealer with Intermountain for over 10 years, and I have enjoyed purchases from their "Inventory Reduction sales" which allows me passing bargains onto fellow modelers. I have seen many boxcars, tank cars, flats and reefers, including Tichy stuff, come up specially priced, but NEVER have I seen any of Terry's wood side reefers get clearanced. Frank has admitted that they sell-out, but he seems to be always reluctant to rerun them. This run came about because of Terry's persistence. Frank makes the claim that the Chinese factory complains about assembling the flat kits, though I think he may be exaggerating a bit, for I have found the fit of Terry's refrigerator car parts to be nice and precise.
-Andy Carlson

Paul said:

IM has been doing these R-30-18, 19, and 21 PFE reefers for the 5, or 6 years, and has "blown" the correct paint on almost all of them. I see no reason why they would correct this run, since they sell them out in a hurry, right, or wrong!

Paul Lyons


Re: IM upcoming PFE Reefers

Brian Carlson
 

Thanks Paul: I guess I haven't been paying close attention to the wood sided cars.



Brian J. Carlson, P.E.

Cheektowaga NY

prrk41361@...



From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of cobrapsl@...
Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 11:10 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: Re: [STMFC] IM upcoming PFE Reefers






Brian,

IM has been doing these R-30-18, 19, and 21 PFE reefers for the 5, or 6 years, and has "blown" the correct paint on almost all of them. I see no reason why they would correct this run, since they sell them out in a hurry, right, or wrong!

Paul Lyons

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From: Brian J Carlson <prrk41361@... <mailto:prrk41361%40yahoo.com> >
To: STMFC@... <mailto:STMFC%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thu, Jun 3, 2010 8:03 pm
Subject: [STMFC] IM upcoming PFE Reefers

These cars have been discussed over the past few weeks on the list but I
have a few more questions. I model 1957 so I am interested in cars with both
B&W heralds.
Stock # 47403 R-30-18 This car shows all orange hardware and no stripes
above and below the reporting marks. Per the painting and lettering
information in the PFE book this happened in 1951 and 19532 respectively.
The resolution isn't good enough to see if the periods are there or not.
However, it appears the UP medallion is red, white, and Blue. It should be
all black shouldn't it? Hopefully, IM will address this issue. Ed Hawkins
noted this also but I didn't see a reply to his email.

And I know these aren't out yet but does anyone think IM will do the -21 and
-19 in the later 50's schemes?

Brian J. Carlson, P.E.
Cheektowaga NY
prrk41361@... <mailto:prrk41361%40yahoo.com>

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Re: Reporting Marks: Was, IC 40' box car decal

Jack Mullen
 

--- In STMFC@..., Guy Wilber <guycwilber@...> wrote:


4" letters and numerals for end markings were specified from 1905 thru
1960 for; house cars, tank cars, gons and hoppers.
Thanks, Guy.

So the larger sizes used by some of the reefer lines were a deviation from standard.
Jack


Re: IM upcoming PFE Reefers

Paul Lyons
 

Brian,

IM has been doing these R-30-18, 19, and 21 PFE reefers for the 5, or 6 years, and has "blown" the correct paint on almost all of them. I see no reason why they would correct this run, since they sell them out in a hurry, right, or wrong!

Paul Lyons

-----Original Message-----
From: Brian J Carlson <prrk41361@...>
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Thu, Jun 3, 2010 8:03 pm
Subject: [STMFC] IM upcoming PFE Reefers




These cars have been discussed over the past few weeks on the list but I
have a few more questions. I model 1957 so I am interested in cars with both
B&W heralds.
Stock # 47403 R-30-18 This car shows all orange hardware and no stripes
above and below the reporting marks. Per the painting and lettering
information in the PFE book this happened in 1951 and 19532 respectively.
The resolution isn't good enough to see if the periods are there or not.
However, it appears the UP medallion is red, white, and Blue. It should be
all black shouldn't it? Hopefully, IM will address this issue. Ed Hawkins
noted this also but I didn't see a reply to his email.

And I know these aren't out yet but does anyone think IM will do the -21 and
-19 in the later 50's schemes?

Brian J. Carlson, P.E.
Cheektowaga NY
prrk41361@...







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IM upcoming PFE Reefers

Brian Carlson
 

These cars have been discussed over the past few weeks on the list but I
have a few more questions. I model 1957 so I am interested in cars with both
B&W heralds.
Stock # 47403 R-30-18 This car shows all orange hardware and no stripes
above and below the reporting marks. Per the painting and lettering
information in the PFE book this happened in 1951 and 19532 respectively.
The resolution isn't good enough to see if the periods are there or not.
However, it appears the UP medallion is red, white, and Blue. It should be
all black shouldn't it? Hopefully, IM will address this issue. Ed Hawkins
noted this also but I didn't see a reply to his email.

And I know these aren't out yet but does anyone think IM will do the -21 and
-19 in the later 50's schemes?


Brian J. Carlson, P.E.
Cheektowaga NY
prrk41361@...


Re: 1916 Car Builders Dictionary [was] standard framing sizes

Ray Breyer
 

No slight taken Dennis! I suppose it would be useful to occasionally remind people where these CBDs are though; the 1916 is especially useful for most on this list.

Now if someone will just add a 1920s one to the site...

Regards,
Ray Breyer
Elgin, IL

--- On Thu, 6/3/10, soolinehistory <destorzek@...> wrote:

From: soolinehistory <destorzek@...>
Subject: [STMFC] Re: 1916 Car Builders Dictionary [was] standard framing sizes
To: STMFC@...
Date: Thursday, June 3, 2010, 4:46 PM


--- In STMFC@...,
Ray Breyer <rtbsvrr69@...> wrote:

Hi Dennis,

To be fair, I clued everyone into the existence of
this free CBD (and six others) four months ago. See message
#88526 for direct links to them all.

Just sayin'
Ray Breyer
Elgin, IL
Ray,

I certainly didn't mean to slight anyone. When I wrote the
reply to Mr. Chattfield, I was trying to think of an on-line
source to send his friend to, and couldn't. Having someone
post the link to the 1916 CBD on another list the same day
was just luck, I guess.

Dennis



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Re: 1916 Car Builders Dictionary [was] standard framing sizes

Nolan Hinshaw
 

On Jun 3, 2010, at 10:31 AM, Ray Breyer wrote:

Hi Dennis,

To be fair, I clued everyone into the existence of this free CBD (and six others) four months ago. See message #88526 for direct links to them all.

I got it then, *and* the 1912 edition as well.
--
Nolan Hinshaw, native Californian since 1944
"Every freight train has at least one NP box car"
the Brock Corollary to the GN hypothesis


Re: MDT reefers

Roger Hinman <rhinman@...>
 

Just the 36 footers, the 34 foot cars weren't worth the investment


Roger Hinman

On Jun 2, 2010, at 7:35 PM, lrkdbn wrote:

I believe these 34-36 foot MDT cars were given "repair steel underframes" (steel center sills, bolsters and needle beams)
starting in the teens and continuing into the 1920's. They later
(post 1923) operated under ERDX reporting marks.
Larry King


Re: 1916 Car Builders Dictionary [was] standard framing sizes

soolinehistory <destorzek@...>
 

--- In STMFC@..., Ray Breyer <rtbsvrr69@...> wrote:

Hi Dennis,

To be fair, I clued everyone into the existence of this free CBD (and six others) four months ago. See message #88526 for direct links to them all.

Just sayin'
Ray Breyer
Elgin, IL
Ray,

I certainly didn't mean to slight anyone. When I wrote the reply to Mr. Chattfield, I was trying to think of an on-line source to send his friend to, and couldn't. Having someone post the link to the 1916 CBD on another list the same day was just luck, I guess.

Dennis


Re: DL&W wood auto boxcars

al_brown03
 

In TS CYC 75 (reprinted from the '43 CBC), p 425, is a photo of DL&W 12394. It's a "before" picture in an article about rebuilding with steel sides.

In Kaminski's Magor book, p 80, are two builder's photos of DL&W 12929 from series 12800-12999, built 7/24.

Al Brown, Melbourne, Fla.

--- In STMFC@..., "Ken" <kobrien1600@...> wrote:

I'm looking for info and pictures about the wood door and a half auto boxcars of the DL&W in series 12000 to 12999, built in the mid 1920's. They look like USRA double sheathed boxcars with a little extra height and 2 doors in a 10' opening.
I have a few dimensions from ORERs and a small hand full of pictures from Taber's Lackawanna series and the RPI website. Could use a few more photos and maybe a car diagram. These cars were gone by the end of WWII, since they aren't in my earliest car diagram book from 1947.

Ken O'Brien


Re: DL&W wood auto boxcars

Richard Hendrickson
 

On Jun 3, 2010, at 12:13 PM, Ken wrote:

I'm looking for info and pictures about the wood door and a half
auto boxcars of the DL&W in series 12000 to 12999, built in the mid
1920's. They look like USRA double sheathed boxcars with a little
extra height and 2 doors in a 10' opening.
I have a few dimensions from ORERs and a small hand full of
pictures from Taber's Lackawanna series and the RPI website. Could
use a few more photos and maybe a car diagram. These cars were gone
by the end of WWII, since they aren't in my earliest car diagram
book from 1947.
Ken, I have a print of a builder's photo from the AC&F archives which
I will scan and send off-list.

Richard Hendrickson


DL&W wood auto boxcars

Ken O'Brien
 

I'm looking for info and pictures about the wood door and a half auto boxcars of the DL&W in series 12000 to 12999, built in the mid 1920's. They look like USRA double sheathed boxcars with a little extra height and 2 doors in a 10' opening.
I have a few dimensions from ORERs and a small hand full of pictures from Taber's Lackawanna series and the RPI website. Could use a few more photos and maybe a car diagram. These cars were gone by the end of WWII, since they aren't in my earliest car diagram book from 1947.

Ken O'Brien

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