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Re: DL&W wood auto boxcars

brianleppert@att.net
 

I have an original Magor drawing of the underframe arrangement for the DL&W 12800-12999 cars. It is almost an exact copy of the USRA 40-ton box car underframe.

Brian Leppert
Carson City, NV

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Ken" <kobrien1600@...> wrote:

I'm looking for info and pictures about the wood door and a half auto boxcars of the DL&W in series 12000 to 12999...
Ken O'Brien


Unusual Perishables

Walter
 

Add roots to the list of Unusual Perishables.

W.L. Ohrnell


Re: Champ decals--no longer available?

pennsylvania1954
 

Tom--You can definitely still order from Champ, and they ship promptly. They prefer online ordering; note the comments on the site about when they are working. They try to keep the website current with actual inventory so if you don't see it, it's gone.

Steve Hoxie
Pensacola FL

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Thomas Baker <bakert@...> wrote:


Yesterday I explored the CHAMP website, read the notice of the inventory, equipment, etc being up for sale. Nevertheless, the site listed various decals still available. Do the people at CHAMP still respond to orders?

Tom


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Re: decal finishing help

Craig Zeni
 

The real answer to a good base finish is to use glossy paint in the first place. I use Scalecoat and Scalecoat II (for plastic) sprayed right from the bottle. It covers well and dries glossy. Dry time is a little long but the finish is worth it.

Steve Kay

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Brian J Carlson" <prrk41361@...> wrote:


I've not been happy with my last few decaling projects with Testor's
Glosscote. Lots of work with setting solutions and creative weathering have
helped make them better but I am looking for other decal finishing options.
I've used Glosscote for years originally from spray cans so any thoughts are
appreciated. I've heard about Future from others anything special I should
know. Spray right from bottle or dilute?

Brian J. Carlson, P.E.
Cheektowaga NY
prrk41361@...

I've also had good luck getting a decal-ready finish by mixing Floquil 50/50 with their Glaze. Sprays fine through a Paasche double action airbrush. Yes, also a bit slow to dry but like Steve says, the finish is worth it. But if I can get the color I need in it, I'm a Scalecoat painter.




Craig Zeni

Some mornings it's just not worth chewing through the leather straps.


Re: Champ decals--no longer available?

Thomas Baker
 

Yesterday I explored the CHAMP website, read the notice of the inventory, equipment, etc being up for sale. Nevertheless, the site listed various decals still available. Do the people at CHAMP still respond to orders?

Tom


Re: Strange boxcar ID

tmolsen@...
 

The car in the photo is a double door B&O M27B Class automobile box car rebuild with a mansard roof. A model of this car was produced by Sunshine models. The Kit number was #58.3. According to Martin's prototype data, the Mansard roof double doors became M27F when the B&O sealed the left door of the car.

Sunshine also produced Kit #58.6 which replicates this car as a single door car after the left hand door was removed and the opening plated over with a steel side sheet. Steve Hoxie's post shows his completed Sunshine Model of this car on the Steam Freight car site.

http://www.steamfreightcars.com/modeling/models/harr/bo382281main.html

Tom Olsen
7 Boundary Road, West Branch
Newark, Delaware, 19711-7479
(302) 738-4292
tmolsen@udel.edu


Re: decal finishing help

Tim O'Connor
 

Clark

It "blushes" -- turns semi-transparent and talcy. This can be
exploited in many different ways -- spray, brush, spatter, wash.
If it happens and you DON'T want it, then it can be made to
magically revert to its original look simply by overspray with
more Dullcote. Most of the time I use Floquil Flat but when I
know I'm going to want to exploit the blushing, then I use
Dullcote. I sometimes use Dullcote for "spot preparation" before
application of washes and/or pigments (AIM and other weathering
colors) too. It helps with adhesion (I wait for it to get tacky)
and produces additional effects.

Tim O'Connor

At 6/6/2010 09:39 PM Sunday, you wrote:
Ok, I'll bite. What's the effect of Dullcote reacting with alcohol?

-Clark Cooper

On Jun 6, 2010, at 10:29 AM, Tim O'Connor wrote:

Pierre

That is the main reason that I love Dullcote!! :-)

Tim O'Connor

The main one being the way that Testor's Dullcote reacted with
alcohol.
A neat effect but far to unpredictable for me.
Pierre Oliver


Re: Unusual Perishables

Douglas Harding <dharding@...>
 

Kurt, stearine is a packing house product, ie a byproduct of animal slaughter operations. It would certainly be perishable, in the
same manner that all packing house products are perishable.

Not sure about the other items you noted.

Doug Harding
www.iowacentralrr.org


Re: decal finishing help

Clark Cooper
 

Ok, I'll bite. What's the effect of Dullcote reacting with alcohol?

-Clark Cooper

On Jun 6, 2010, at 10:29 AM, Tim O'Connor wrote:

Pierre

That is the main reason that I love Dullcote!! :-)

Tim O'Connor

The main one being the way that Testor's Dullcote reacted with
alcohol.
A neat effect but far to unpredictable for me.
Pierre Oliver


Re: Strange boxcar ID

ford35lh <ford35lh@...>
 

To all those that responded,thanks.
I just borrowed back volumes of RMC and
found the article which is very informative.
Photos of the weathered or later lettering
scheme taken from the ground in less than
3/4 view seem to hide or soften the roof configuration.
The photo of restored car in Baltimore really shows it.
Thanks again.
ford


Re: Strange boxcar ID

pennsylvania1954
 


Re: Strange boxcar ID

Rob & Bev Manley
 

Mr. Ford,
Looks like the Bowser or Sunshine car to me.
Rob Manley

----- Original Message -----
From: ford35lh
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, June 06, 2010 1:28 PM
Subject: [STMFC] Strange boxcar ID



Can anyone ID the boxcar in this ebay image ???
It has a strange roof configuration I have never seen.
Drawings in print ???
Thanks
ford

ebay# 330439620059


Re: Strange boxcar ID

Don Burn
 

It is a Baltimore and Ohio M27F, there was an article in the March 2001 RMC
on how to model these and they were covered in Ted Cullota's Essential
Freight Car series. See
http://steamfreightcars.com/modeling/models/harr/bo382281main.html for a
nice model of one.

Don Burn

-----Original Message-----
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ford35lh
Sent: Sunday, June 06, 2010 2:28 PM
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [STMFC] Strange boxcar ID

Can anyone ID the boxcar in this ebay image ???
It has a strange roof configuration I have never seen.
Drawings in print ???
Thanks
ford

ebay# 330439620059



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Re: Strange boxcar ID

Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
 

ford35lh (not signing his name) wrote:
Can anyone ID the boxcar in this ebay image ??? It has a strange roof configuration I have never seen.
Drawings in print ???

ebay# 330439620059
Looks like one of the B&O raised-roof auto cars to me, but there are people on the list who will know more.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@signaturepress.com
Publishers of books on railroad history


Re: another set

John Riddell <jriddell@...>
 

FYI, CDS Lettering offers set #282 for the H21a and accurate sets for many
other PRR cars.
Despite info to the contrary, CDS is still in business. A source is :

http://www.tmrdistributing.com/

John Riddell


Strange boxcar ID

ford35lh <ford35lh@...>
 

Can anyone ID the boxcar in this ebay image ???
It has a strange roof configuration I have never seen.
Drawings in print ???
Thanks
ford

ebay# 330439620059


Strange boxcar ID

ford35lh <ford35lh@...>
 

Can anyone ID the boxcar in this ebay image ???
It has a strange roof configuration I have never seen.
Drawings in print ???
Thanks
ford

ebay# 330439620059


Re: decal finishing help

mforsyth127
 

Brian J Carlson wrote:

Matt to you decal on this Matte finish or is that what you use to seal the
decals after you are done. Never had great results decaling on a matte
finish.
Brian,

The 1311 is used as a final topcoat over the entire model/decals/dry transfers, etc.

Matt Forsyth

Modeling the D&H Penn Division/
Erie Jefferson Division
in "O" Scale, Summer 1952


Re: decal finishing help

Tim O'Connor
 

Pierre

That is the main reason that I love Dullcote!! :-)

Tim O'Connor

The main one being the way that Testor's Dullcote reacted with alcohol.
A neat effect but far to unpredictable for me.
Pierre Oliver


Re: ORER research needed

jerryglow2
 

Thanks for the reports on ORER listings. That confirms both number series: now if I could only find a picture of one in that series, not later renumbered ones.

Jerry Glow

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