You've found a great example of the Dr. P. H. Martin school of photo retouching :-)

If you click on the "View larger image" then right click the image, you should open a version that you can zoom in on. It's a Great Northern car, as evidenced by the Great Northern Railway equipment trust lettering on the upper left corner of the car side; just to the left on the car end you can see the brush stroke that obliterated the end reporting mark. The fanciful lettering scheme was an attempt to cover the rest of the GN markings with something relatively believable, kind of like the AAR's East & West R.R. This sort of thing was done from time to time when a company wanted to use a photo in an ad and didn't want to appear to show favoritism to one railroad over another, although the more usual way to do this was to simply airbrush the identifying marks out on the print.

Dennis

I found something that I have never seen before, a "Commercial Inland Railway" box car. Its at this link:



http://www.digitalarchives.wa.gov/ViewRecord.aspx?RID=51DBCFAA29B0966B48149F8FE755EA46



I have no idea where this railway is and I'm hoping some of you might shed some light on this. Thanks.



- Steve Hedlund, Everett, WA

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The photo Lou is talking about can be seen here.
www.sunshinekits.com/suninst/instmk10.pdf

Jim Hayes
Portland Oregon
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On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 8:34 AM, LOUIS WHITELEY <octoraro1@verizon.net>wrote:

There is a small 3/4 view including the B end of 18862, new in 1939 -- an
ACF's builder photo -- on the "Prototype Data and Modeling Notes" sheet of
Sunshine Models' Mini-Kit for this series of IC boxcar. It's not good copy
on the sheet -- the end is quite dark.

I jumped the gun on my previous reply -- sorry!

Lou Whiteley
Lawrenceville, NJ

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Subject: [STMFC] IC box car end view


Would anyone know of a photo showing B end details on an Illinois Central
18000-19999 series box car?

Staffan Ehnbom

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First, I am not an NYC expert and do not play one at prototype meets. I
only know what I was
told by the guy who made the masters. During research for the project they
could not find any photos of cars with Youngstown doors with Roman lettering
and, therefore, the safe conclusion he reached is that the door replacement
occured during the 1955 rebuilding by which time Gothic was standard. He
was standing behind me as I purchased my kit at Naperville and advised me
that the Gothic lettering was the only safe bet.

Sunshine went to the usual NYC sources for reference and found that the
rebuilding data and lot numbers was even more convoluted and inconclusive
than typical. If anyone has a photo of a Youngstown door car and Roman
lettering please stand up and give us the car number and reweigh date.

FWIW, work is being done on masters for the increased height rebuilds with
the original roofs and panel doors which will be certainly correct for Roman
lettering.

Bill

Bleach blackens brass/copper/silver in this way too.

Aaron

I used Hobby Black many years ago and dont recall any chipping or flaking. I worked in a factory that used a similar chemical coloring process referred to as "Black Oxide" finish. This chemically etches the the surfaces and adheres to the metal. I am wondering if the chipping you refer too may actually be a spot where the metal surfacre may not have been 100% clean and the process didn't make the bond.

Other than that I dont have much else to offer. The oxidation should adere and bond with the metal and its not like a paint coating.

Robert Federle