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Re: Branchline and other box cars offerings

SUVCWORR@...
 

Elden,

From the dealers fliers from Branchline and conversations with my account rep, they are in the process of dumping the remaining passenger cars. Prices are greatly reduced on selected cars. Likewise they have reduced the dealer cost for the Billboard reefers to reduce inventory. The only thing "new" is artwork and numbers for the Yardmaster series. They have been slowly redoing the artwork for these cars and adding 4 new numbers. I know they have been provided photos of 1937 AAR cars in schemes not done in the Yardmaster series (I provided some of them) but they have not produced these cars. If you noticed BL has stopped advertising since Bill left for Rapido.

All of the emphasis on new BL items has been on the laser cut structures. They continue to increase these items..

There were/are plans to introduce new models but nothing has been done beyond plans at this point.

In my opinion, BL is reverting to its roots as a distributor (they began life as Hobby Store Distributors). They have been increasing the manufacturers they are carrying.


Rich Orr

-----Original Message-----
From: Gatwood, Elden J SAD <elden.j.gatwood@usace.army.mil>
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:55 am
Subject: RE: [STMFC] Re: Branchline and other box cars offerings


Folks;



Speaking of Branchline and other kit manufacturers' box car offerings, are

there any plans you know of to offer additional paint and lettering schemes?



Is there any interest in some of the cars that have not been done recently,

in a better form, like a welded 40-foot box car, 40-foot cars with

overhanging diagonal roofs, cars with odd ends, etc.? At

Branchline/Kadee/(add others) level of quality?



Or are post-war box car offerings now generally believed to be DOA? It seems

like recent offerings are overwhelmingly pre-war.



Elden Gatwood





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Re: Branchline and other box cars offerings

Jon Miller <atsf@...>
 

On 6/24/2010 7:39 AM, Armand Premo wrote:
Andy,In my humble opinion there is plenty of room for both.Unfortunately undecorated kits lie dormant because of a lack of appropriate decals or dry transfers.How do you explain the popularity of resin kits and the multitude of laser cut building kits?
Remember most/some of the resin kits manufactures have very good decals available separately. I have often wondered why the other decal makers seem to get all the business when the other decals are available.
--
Jon Miller
For me time stopped in 1941
Digitrax--Chief/Zephyr systems, JMRI User
NMRA Life member #2623
Member SFRH&MS


Re: Branchline and other box cars offerings

Armand Premo
 

Andy,In my humble opinion there is plenty of room for both.Unfortunately undecorated kits lie dormant because of a lack of appropriate decals or dry transfers.How do you explain the popularity of resin kits and the multitude of laser cut building kits?Somebody must be buying them.The largest investment is in the cutting of dies.Once done, the cheapest part of the operation is decorating the car body for more than one era or one paint scheme.There are many who like to kit bash or further enhance current offerings.If there are any out there who might have kits that they aren't going to build get them out there so others who build, will.It is very difficult to have to strip a RTR car and reletter or super detail it.Until the manufacturers realize that there is a market for both ,I'll continue to spend my money on resin.Armand Premo

----- Original Message -----
From: Andy Carlson
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 10:12 AM
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Branchline and other box cars offerings



Wasn't that long ago we were lamenting the disappearance of kits as companies such as Intermountain and Red Caboose were moving their production into mostly Factory assembled offerings.

Later, Branchline-Trains, with a rich catalog of pre-finished kits, joined the march into offering RTR cars.

Now we have Intermountain offering ZERO painted/lettered kits, only undecs are available. Same with Red Caboose. Branchline-Trains appears to be moving into only Yardmaster "shake the box" offerings, letting their very acceptable Blueprint line wither down to only undec kits.

When this trend started, I felt that the demise of kits was because the lack of offerings by the builders. Now I believe that they were probable correct, kits sell very poorly. Bye Bye....

-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA

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Said "Gatwood, Elden J SAD ".....

Folks;

Speaking of Branchline and other kit manufacturers' box car offerings, are
there any plans you know of to offer additional paint and lettering schemes?








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Re: Branchline and other box cars offerings

Andy Carlson
 

Wasn't that long ago we were lamenting the disappearance of kits as companies such as Intermountain and Red Caboose were moving their production into mostly Factory assembled offerings.

Later, Branchline-Trains, with a rich catalog of pre-finished kits, joined the march into offering RTR cars.

Now we have Intermountain offering ZERO painted/lettered kits, only undecs are available. Same with Red Caboose. Branchline-Trains appears to be moving into only Yardmaster "shake the box" offerings, letting their very acceptable Blueprint line wither down to only undec kits.

When this trend started, I felt that the demise of kits was because the lack of offerings by the builders. Now I believe that they were probable correct, kits sell very poorly. Bye Bye....

-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA




________________________________
Said "Gatwood, Elden J SAD ".....


Folks;

Speaking of Branchline and other kit manufacturers' box car offerings, are
there any plans you know of to offer additional paint and lettering schemes?


Re: Branchline and other box cars offerings

Gatwood, Elden J SAD
 

Folks;

Speaking of Branchline and other kit manufacturers' box car offerings, are
there any plans you know of to offer additional paint and lettering schemes?

Is there any interest in some of the cars that have not been done recently,
in a better form, like a welded 40-foot box car, 40-foot cars with
overhanging diagonal roofs, cars with odd ends, etc.? At
Branchline/Kadee/(add others) level of quality?

Or are post-war box car offerings now generally believed to be DOA? It seems
like recent offerings are overwhelmingly pre-war.

Elden Gatwood


Re: Mystery Boxcar

olin4812
 

Thanks Gary, If Wabash was in the habit of using boxcars for erosion control, then maybe that means that it's likely that the double door car is a "system" car, which could narrow my search a bit. I do know that NKP reroofed a lot of older cars with diagonal panels ....

Olin Dirks
Omaha, NE


Some items For Sale ...

dakkinder
 

Up for sale is 2 brand new and never used 1 ounce bottles of Scalecoat paint
Boxcar Red #S2013 is Scalecoat II and the other is Boxcar Red #2 S2087 is
Scalecoat I. I also i have a new pint of Scalecoat II thinner .

Sale price for all $13.00 for all of it shipping not included .
if interested contact me at dakkinder@...

Doug Kinder


Re: NP Truss Rod Reefers

Richard Hendrickson
 

On Jun 23, 2010, at 9:02 PM, cobrapsl@aol.com wrote:

I recently bought a HO scale W&R brass Northern Pacific wood reefer
with a "fishbelly" center sill and a truss rod outboard on each
side. The car has the standard NP radial roof and a vertical brake
staff. It has a 1917 build date and is painted in company service
with a 1937 date, I believe the correct number series for these
cars were #94400-899; and #94900-95999. Road number of the model is
94564. My question is how long did these car run in revenue
service. Looking in my 1944 ORES, it shows 471 cars in these two
series and 62 are still shown in the 1950 ORES. I am having trouble
believing there were still 62 truss rod reefers running in revenuse
service in 1950. Was there maybe a re-numbering in the late 40's?
Any info is greatly appreicated.

Paul Lyons
Paul, your doubts are unfounded. Remember. those cars had fishbelly
steel center sills which took all the pulling and buffing forces; the
truss rods only supported the side sills. The cars were never
renumbered and the ORER data on cars remaining in service is correct.

Richard Hendrickson


NP Truss Rod Reefers

Paul Lyons
 

I recently bought a HO scale W&R brass Northern Pacific wood reefer with a "fishbelly" center sill and a truss rod outboard on each side. The car has the standard NP radial roof and a vertical brake staff. It has a 1917 build date and is painted in company service with a 1937 date, I believe the correct number series for these cars were #94400-899; and #94900-95999. Road number of the model is 94564. My question is how long did these car run in revenue service. Looking in my 1944 ORES, it shows 471 cars in these two series and 62 are still shown in the 1950 ORES. I am having trouble believing there were still 62 truss rod reefers running in revenuse service in 1950. Was there maybe a re-numbering in the late 40's? Any info is greatly appreicated.

Paul Lyons


Re: Wabash AC& F Cabooses circa 1925-27 <was> Gould Standard Wooden Cabooses -

cef39us <cfrench@...>
 

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "mbcarson2002" <mbcarson@...> wrote:

Thank you for the information, Victor

Did the special issue give you any insight into Wabash cabooses that might have built during the Gould era? IIRC, George Gould lost control of the roads he controlled (including the Wabash) circa 1911 - 1912. Some of the AC&F cabooses were delivered to Missouri Pacific just about the time Gould was losing control.
Mike,

The Wabash, purchased or built, forty three 34' wood cabooses in 1910-1911. They added 16 more in 1912. The cars were randomly numbered between 2000 - 2447. Caboose 2229, residing at the Museum of Transport in St Louis, is a 1904 built 28' car.

Regarding the cars in the subject line, cars 2600 - 2624 were built by AC&F in 1925. The Wabash built copies, 2625 - 2644 in 1927, and 2645 - 2653 in 1929.

Chet French
Dixon, IL


B&O USRA Box Car Color - 1930's? D&H Caboose Red?

PARK <parkcitybranch@...>
 

I am in the process of painting a USRA box car for the B&O circa 1930's. The Westerfield directions mention D&H caboose red is a near perfect match. Only problem is floquil no longer makes this color. Anyone have any ideas for a sub? Thanks.

Jason Sanford


Re: RPM Naperville in October

Jim Hayes
 

They never said they didn't have a computer. They said they didn't do email
or internet. But I find that hard to believe too with kids living far away.

Jim Hayes
Portland Oregon
www.sunshinekits.com


On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 7:55 PM, <cobrapsl@aol.com> wrote:




Well I guess Joe let the "cat out of the bag"! The Lofton's really do own a
computer. Somehow, over last 4 or 5 years I never thought different, no
matter what was repeated stated on this list.

Paul Lyons


-----Original Message-----
From: tmolsen@UDel.Edu <tmolsen%40UDel.Edu>
To: StMFC@yahoogroups.com <StMFC%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wed, Jun 23, 2010 4:19 pm
Subject: [STMFC] RPM Naperville in October

Subject: Re: railroadprototypemodelers.com: Naperville RPM, October 2010
From: joseph delia <ppw-aline@att.net <ppw-aline%40att.net>>
Date: Wed 23 Jun 14:50:47 EDT 2010
To: "Thomas M. Olsen" <tmolsen@UDel.Edu <tmolsen%40UDel.Edu>>

Tom;

Mailings are going out as we speak. Martin has had a computer meltdown and
that's why nothing has been sent out yet. I am making the clinician mailing
and Martin is making the attendees mailing.

Some info is on the web-site now:

http://ppw-aline.com/rpm-naperville.htm

More info will be put up as soon as we can. Dates are set Oct. 21,22,23,24,
2010.

Special room rates also. Lunch and dinner same as last year. We will have
registration form on web-site, please give this info to your friends. Any
other question let me know.

see you there
Joe
RPM-Naperville

On Wed, 23 Jun 2010 04:09:35 -0500, Thomas M. Olsen wrote:
This is an enquiry e-mail via http://railroadprototypemodelers.com/
from: Thomas M. Olsen <tmolsen@udel.edu <tmolsen%40udel.edu>>

Hi Joe,

Just a short note to verify that the Naperville meet is set
and to see if the prices for it have been published. Are
you going to have the Friday night dinner as in the past?

When will the registration sign ups go out? Several here
in the East have been asking as they travel by train and
have to make their Amtrak
reservations now to get the price and space.

I will be making my hotel reservation this week thus
guaranteeing the room early. My contact information is
below.

Thomas M. Olsen
7 Boundary Road, West Branch
Newark, Delaware, 19711-7479
(302) 738-4292 (Home)
(302) 740-2897 (Cell-Verizon)
tmolsen@udel.edu <tmolsen%40udel.edu>




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Re: RPM Naperville in October

Paul Lyons
 

Well I guess Joe let the "cat out of the bag"! The Lofton's really do own a computer. Somehow, over last 4 or 5 years I never thought different, no matter what was repeated stated on this list.

Paul Lyons

-----Original Message-----
From: tmolsen@UDel.Edu
To: StMFC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, Jun 23, 2010 4:19 pm
Subject: [STMFC] RPM Naperville in October




Subject: Re: railroadprototypemodelers.com: Naperville RPM, October 2010
From: joseph delia <ppw-aline@att.net>
Date: Wed 23 Jun 14:50:47 EDT 2010
To: "Thomas M. Olsen" <tmolsen@UDel.Edu>

Tom;

Mailings are going out as we speak. Martin has had a computer meltdown and that's why nothing has been sent out yet. I am making the clinician mailing and Martin is making the attendees mailing.

Some info is on the web-site now:

http://ppw-aline.com/rpm-naperville.htm

More info will be put up as soon as we can. Dates are set Oct. 21,22,23,24, 2010.

Special room rates also. Lunch and dinner same as last year. We will have registration form on web-site, please give this info to your friends. Any other question let me know.

see you there
Joe
RPM-Naperville


On Wed, 23 Jun 2010 04:09:35 -0500, Thomas M. Olsen wrote:
This is an enquiry e-mail via http://railroadprototypemodelers.com/
from: Thomas M. Olsen <tmolsen@udel.edu>

Hi Joe,

Just a short note to verify that the Naperville meet is set
and to see if the prices for it have been published. Are
you going to have the Friday night dinner as in the past?

When will the registration sign ups go out? Several here
in the East have been asking as they travel by train and
have to make their Amtrak
reservations now to get the price and space.

I will be making my hotel reservation this week thus
guaranteeing the room early. My contact information is
below.

Thomas M. Olsen
7 Boundary Road, West Branch
Newark, Delaware, 19711-7479
(302) 738-4292 (Home)
(302) 740-2897 (Cell-Verizon)
tmolsen@udel.edu





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Freight car screen grabs

Rupert & Maureen <gamlenz@...>
 

Tim

I play my (freight car) movie discs on VLC media player (it was a free download) which incorporates a screen grab (/video/snapshot) putting the picture on the desktop, ready for saving and studying.

Rupert Gamlen
Auckland NZ

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim O'Connor" <timboconnor@comcast.net>
To: <STMFC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 2:03 PM
Subject: [STMFC] N&W hoppers on Sherman Hill?



No, not yet.. But how about a C&IM "battleship" gondola
on Tehachapi? With all the railroad videos on Youtube now,
it's easy to get "screen grab" shots of freight cars using
a tool like MWSnap (free download). So maybe it's just a
matter of time before someone spots the proverbial N&W hopper
on Sherman Hill.

Go to 3:14 on this video to see the C&IM gondola. It goes by
fast! (Whoever made the movie simply has no appreciation of
freight cars.) There are other interesting freight cars as well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AS7bICcBcFE

Tim O'Connor

P.S. These screen grabs work on a PC because Youtube uses the
Adobe Flash Player that runs in the browser. If you watch a movie
on your PC, the video images are buffered in special memory that
is not accessible and therefore you can't copy them.


N&W hoppers on Sherman Hill?

Tim O'Connor
 

No, not yet.. But how about a C&IM "battleship" gondola
on Tehachapi? With all the railroad videos on Youtube now,
it's easy to get "screen grab" shots of freight cars using
a tool like MWSnap (free download). So maybe it's just a
matter of time before someone spots the proverbial N&W hopper
on Sherman Hill.

Go to 3:14 on this video to see the C&IM gondola. It goes by
fast! (Whoever made the movie simply has no appreciation of
freight cars.) There are other interesting freight cars as well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AS7bICcBcFE

Tim O'Connor

P.S. These screen grabs work on a PC because Youtube uses the
Adobe Flash Player that runs in the browser. If you watch a movie
on your PC, the video images are buffered in special memory that
is not accessible and therefore you can't copy them.


Some items for sale ...

dakkinder
 

Up for sale is 2 brand new and never used 1 ounce bottles of Scalecoat paint Boxcar Red #S2013 is Scalecoat II and the other is Boxcar Red #2 S2087 is Scalecoat I. I also i have a new pint of Scalecoat II thinner .

Sale price for all $13.00 for all of it shipping not included .
if interested contact me at dakkinder@yahoo.com


RPM Naperville in October

tmolsen@...
 

Subject: Re: railroadprototypemodelers.com: Naperville RPM, October 2010
From: joseph delia <ppw-aline@att.net>
Date: Wed 23 Jun 14:50:47 EDT 2010
To: "Thomas M. Olsen" <tmolsen@UDel.Edu>

Tom;

Mailings are going out as we speak. Martin has had a computer meltdown and that's why nothing has been sent out yet. I am making the clinician mailing and Martin is making the attendees mailing.

Some info is on the web-site now:

http://ppw-aline.com/rpm-naperville.htm

More info will be put up as soon as we can. Dates are set Oct. 21,22,23,24, 2010.

Special room rates also. Lunch and dinner same as last year. We will have registration form on web-site, please give this info to your friends. Any other question let me know.

see you there
Joe
RPM-Naperville

On Wed, 23 Jun 2010 04:09:35 -0500, Thomas M. Olsen wrote:
This is an enquiry e-mail via http://railroadprototypemodelers.com/
from: Thomas M. Olsen <tmolsen@udel.edu>

Hi Joe,

Just a short note to verify that the Naperville meet is set
and to see if the prices for it have been published. Are
you going to have the Friday night dinner as in the past?

When will the registration sign ups go out? Several here
in the East have been asking as they travel by train and
have to make their Amtrak
reservations now to get the price and space.

I will be making my hotel reservation this week thus
guaranteeing the room early. My contact information is
below.

Thomas M. Olsen
7 Boundary Road, West Branch
Newark, Delaware, 19711-7479
(302) 738-4292 (Home)
(302) 740-2897 (Cell-Verizon)
tmolsen@udel.edu


Re: railroadprototypemodelers.com: Naperville RPM, October 2010

tmolsen@...
 

Hi guys,

Here is the latest information regarding Naperville from Joe
Delia regarding Naperville in October. You may wish to sign up on his website for the RPM meets so as to pick up on the latest info as it comes out.

Tom Olsen
7 Boundary Road, West Branch
Newark, Delaware, 19711-7479
(302) 738-4292
(302) 740-2897 (Cell)
tmolsen@udel.edu


Re: Atlas 1932 box cars

Mark
 

Hello, Brian. Do you have a drawing of the brake layout that should be under the Erie car? I would like to update mine. Really do not care for there underframes.
Mark Morgan

--- On Wed, 6/23/10, Brian Carlson <prrk41361@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Brian Carlson <prrk41361@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Atlas 1932 box cars
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, June 23, 2010, 3:40 PM
















 









Roof is molded with the sides, at least on the Erie model I had apart. Frame is metal which is a slight pain since the location of the brake components is totally wrong on the Erie car.

 

I haven't seen the C&O car yet.

 

Brian J. Carlson



--- On Wed, 6/23/10, ed_mines <ed_mines@yahoo.com> wrote:



From: ed_mines <ed_mines@yahoo.com>

Subject: [STMFC] Atlas 1932 box cars

To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com

Date: Wednesday, June 23, 2010, 2:59 PM



 



Is the roof a separate piece?



If it is how's the width compared to a Red caboose X29 shell?



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seaboard_1966
 

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