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Re: Thomas (was Bachmann Announcements at the NMRA 2010 Train Show)

Tim O'Connor
 

Rich

My dad started me on wooden trains (snap together track, just like Brio)
in 1958 and then built me an HO layout for Christmas in 1960 with Athearn
and Revell trains -- and I was seriously hooked. At age 7. When we moved
the next year from California to NJ we bought a house next door to a family
with 3 boys, and their Dad had built them a large HO layout in the basement
with trains and a built-in slot car highway! A friend up the street had
several brass models his Dad had brought back from Japan. There was no
getting away from it in those days! :-)

Tim O'Connor

My grandson (6) is nuts about Thomas, and that has morphed into being nuts
about trains per se. I'm stepping him up to a very large Lionel layout in
my basement, and eventually the real thing. I firmly believe that Thomas
might be the salvation of the next generation of railfans and probably
modelers too.
Rich Burg


Re: New file uploaded to STMFC

George Frey <orangetrainman33@...>
 

The requested file or directory is not found on the server. this is what comes
up when i click on the link you gave
 George Frey                                                       




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Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that
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File : /FGE_WFE_BRE_NX Steel cars tables.eml
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Description : FGE/WFE/BRE/NX steel reefer fleet

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New file uploaded to STMFC

STMFC@...
 

Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that
a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the STMFC
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File : /FGE_WFE_BRE_NX Steel cars tables.eml
Uploaded by : mb8444 <brockm@brevard.net>
Description : FGE/WFE/BRE/NX steel reefer fleet

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Re: Rapido Trains' freight model announcement at National Train Show?

Richard Hendrickson
 

On Jul 17, 2010, at 7:54 PM, rockroll50401 wrote:

Bill told me they were coming out with a freight car and we'd like
it. That's all I could get out of him about their product line.
They are coming out with a freight car, Clark, and you (especially)
will like it. But if I told you what it was, I'd have to kill you,
and that's probably a bad idea for both of us.

Richard Hendrickson


Re: Rapido Trains' freight model announcement at National Train Show?

Clark Propst
 

Bill told me they were coming out with a freight car and we'd like it. That's all I could get out of him about their product line.
Clark Propst


Re: Rapido Trains' freight model announcement at National Train Show?

Sigpress <thompson@...>
 

Bill Schneider told me that the announcement had to be pushed back to get other projects done. Stay tuned.
Tony Thompson

Sent from my iPod

On Jul 17, 2010, at 7:03 PM, "Steve Lucas" <stevelucas3@yahoo.ca> wrote:

Rapido has mentioned that a major announcement regarding their product will be made at the NTS. Can someone attending tell us what that announcement is? If it is STMFC-related, of course...

Thanks in advance,

Steve Lucas.



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Rapido Trains' freight model announcement at National Train Show?

Steve Lucas <stevelucas3@...>
 

Rapido has mentioned that a major announcement regarding their product will be made at the NTS. Can someone attending tell us what that announcement is? If it is STMFC-related, of course...

Thanks in advance,

Steve Lucas.


DOWX Nickel-lined tank cars

octoraro1948 <octoraro1@...>
 

Is there any information about two Dow nickel-lined 8,000 gallon acid tank cars (ICC-103-A)numbered in a 1938 ORER as NC8343 and NC8344; and appearing in a 1948 ORER as NC38201 and NC 38202?

Lou Whiteley
Lawrenceville, NJ


Re: Magazine Index Going to NMRA

Jon Miller <atsf@...>
 

Does this, then mean the NMRA website is more secure than Kalmbach's?
Curious.

Jerry Michels

I believe it will be restructured with volunteer help.

--
Jon Miller
For me time stopped in 1941
Digitrax--Chief/Zephyr systems, JMRI User
NMRA Life member #2623
Member SFRH&MS


Re: Thomas (was Bachmann Announcements at the NMRA 2010 Train Show)

cinderandeight@...
 

My grandson (6) is nuts about Thomas, and that has morphed into being nuts
about trains per se. I'm stepping him up to a very large Lionel layout in
my basement, and eventually the real thing. I firmly believe that Thomas
might be the salvation of the next generation of railfans and probably
modelers too.
Rich Burg


Re: SAL XM-1 Boxcar (B4)

Ed Hawkins
 

On Jul 17, 2010, at 4:45 PM, wdarnaby@att.net wrote:

I am assembling a Sunshine SAL XM-1 box, kit 91.9 and it would seem
that the UF is incorrect.  The SAL used a non-standard fish-belly UF
which the model does have.  However, it is cast with a pair of
cross-bearers, one under each door post, which prevents the brake
cylinder from lining up with the lever slot in the UF.  In fact, if
one were modeling the KC brake version it would be impossible to mount
the combined cylinder and reservoir.  The photos in the instructions
and those in RP Cyc #18 are muddy and dark in this area.  But if one
squints closely as the photos it appears that there is only one
cross-bearer centered centered under the door.  This would make sense
as there are some sill rivets under the door that would otherwise do
nothing and this arrangement would allow mounting of the brake
cylinder, especially the KC.  Anybody have better photos that show
this or other evidence?
Bill,
I've examined original photos of these cars, and the bright sunlight
that accents the sides tends to hide underframe detail in dark shadow.

There were Seaboard class B-4 and class B-5 cars, and from what I can
tell by looking at photos there were variations in the underframes
depending on the class. The B-4 cars had a pair of crossbearers located
at the door posts. An in-service photo of Seaboard of 13577 (available
from Bob's Photo but not published in the RP CYC article) probably
shows the underframe best although the underbody is still quite dark.
On the B-5 cars, there were no crossbearers at the door posts, but
rather a single crossbearer at the center of the door. The photo of
15747 on page 48 RP CYC Vol. 18 illustrates this best.

Perhaps a Seaboard expert will come to my rescue if I've misconstrued
this. By the way, I hope the hyphen police will cut me some slack for
using hyphens because sometimes Seaboard used hyphens and sometimes
not. :>)
Regards,
Ed Hawkins



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Re: SAL XM-1 Boxcar (B4)

Richard Hendrickson
 

On Jul 17, 2010, at 2:45 PM, wdarnaby@att.net wrote:

I am assembling a Sunshine SAL XM-1 box, kit 91.9 and it would seem
that the UF is incorrect. The SAL used a non-standard fish-belly
UF which the model does have. However, it is cast with a pair of
cross-bearers, one under each door post, which prevents the brake
cylinder from lining up with the lever slot in the UF. In fact, if
one were modeling the KC brake version it would be impossible to
mount the combined cylinder and reservoir. The photos in the
instructions and those in RP Cyc #18 are muddy and dark in this
area. But if one squints closely as the photos it appears that
there is only one cross-bearer centered centered under the door.
This would make sense as there are some sill rivets under the door
that would otherwise do nothing and this arrangement would allow
mounting of the brake cylinder, especially the KC. Anybody have
better photos that show this or other evidence?
Bill, I'm sending you two detail shots of SAL B4s which clearly show
two crossbearers aligned with the edges of the door opening. They
clearly show the locations of the AB valve and reservoir but not,
unfortunately, the cylinder. I'm also sending a detail shot of a B5
which clearly shows a single crossbearer centered under the door
openings. It clearly shows the location of the AB reservoir though,
again, not the cylinder. So apparently the kit underframe is correct
for the B4s with wood doors but not for the B5s with corrugated steel
doors.

Richard Hendrickson


Accurail steel reefers

Bill Welch
 

The hinged or swing door example from Accurail appears to be an accurate representation of one group of 250 cars (WFEX 68400-68640) built for WFE by Pacific Car & Foundry in 1949 characterized by the hinges more or less shaped like a "home plate," double rows of rivets, and 7' 6" doors. The door height will make this a problematic kit to rework to represent other post-1948 FGE/WFE/BRE/NX cars. I will buy one undec. to carve and sculpt a WFE model. The model appears to lack the fan drive mechanism representations which will be easy to add. I will be curious to see what brake wheel they do, generic or actual.

The center sill step appears accurate for the WFE hinged door model but is not accurate for any FGE/WFE/BRE/NX sliding door reefer. Aside from this easy fix, this appears to a good representation of most of the FGE/WFE/BRE/NX sliding door fleet. There were some variations of the improved Dreadnaught end within the sliding door cars. Again there is no fan mechanism represented.

As I already have several Sunshine kits to do the sliding door cars, I will probably buy only one undec. of this model to carve and sculpt and rework the sill to model a FGE 1949 PC&F steel rebuild of a wood- sheathed car (FGEX 59900-59999).

I have sent a PDF to Mike B. of a large table I have created of the FGE/WFE/BRE/NX steel reefer fleet.

Bill Welch


SAL XM-1 Boxcar (B4)

william darnaby
 

I am assembling a Sunshine SAL XM-1 box, kit 91.9 and it would seem that the UF is incorrect.  The SAL used a non-standard fish-belly UF which the model does have.  However, it is cast with a pair of cross-bearers, one under each door post, which prevents the brake cylinder from lining up with the lever slot in the UF.  In fact, if one were modeling the KC brake version it would be impossible to mount the combined cylinder and reservoir.  The photos in the instructions and those in RP Cyc #18 are muddy and dark in this area.  But if one squints closely as the photos it appears that there is only one cross-bearer centered centered under the door.  This would make sense as there are some sill rivets under the door that would otherwise do nothing and this arrangement would allow mounting of the brake cylinder, especially the KC.  Anybody have better photos that show this or other evidence?
 
Thanks,
Bill Darnaby

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Re: PRSL Hoppers

MOFWCABOOSE@...
 

My bad. I should have remembered that on the PRSL, the 200 series was cabooses. The hopper I saw must have been numbered in the 100-series (work equipment).

John C. La Rue, Jr.
Bonita Springs, FL
















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Re: Thomas (was Bachmann Announcements at the NMRA 2010 Train Show)

Gene <bierglaeser@...>
 

Tim,
My success rate was low, too. Of 3 sons and 1 daughter, only 1 son is a model railroader. The jury is still out on a couple of grandsons.
Gene

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:

Gene <snip> Boys seem more easily infected. :-)

Tim O'Connor

Thomas may deliver the next generation of modelers.
Gene Green


Re: Magazine Index Going to NMRA

asychis@...
 

Information was received this evening from Milwaukee that Kalmbach has
agreed to a proposal in which NMRA will assume responsibility for
restructuring and maintaining the model railroad magazine index. Presumably
it will be
accessible to the public.

Does this, then mean the NMRA website is more secure than Kalmbach's?
Curious.

Jerry Michels


Re: Bachmann Announcements at the NMRA 2010 Train Show

Richard Townsend
 

Tim,

Maybe I'm just too much of an optimist. While I tend to agree with your assessment of the photographs, they still aren't the actual models. I'll wait to make up my mind. A couple of months age we were criticizing the MTH photos, at least some of which weren't photos of MTH models at all. Now we're looking at photos of something called "first engineering test shots." I draw from that name the conclusion we are not necessarily looking at the models in their final forms. I hope (but not with much conviction) they will not have molded on grabs and ladders. I hope they will be accurate. But without seeing them, or hearing from those who have, I am not willing to decide they are dogs. Yet. Maybe they are being shown in their final forms at the train show as I write this, and one of our brothers will report.

P.S. You've seen lots of galaxies, including the one we're in. <VBG>

Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, Oregon

-----Original Message-----
From: Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@comcast.net>
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, Jul 17, 2010 10:00 am
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Bachmann Announcements at the NMRA 2010 Train Show




Richard

I've haven't seen any galaxies either except in photographs, but
I can still make out a few details can't I? The photos in Bachmann's
PDF satisified all my curiousity about their freight cars. Not every
new model is worth thinking about, especially a completely redundant
model (this makes the FOURTH plastic HO scale USRA hopper).

Tim O'Connor

A lot of criticism of cars nobody has seen yet. But that's our way, isn't it?
Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, Oregon






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Re: PRSL Hoppers

MOFWCABOOSE@...
 

I saw one back in 1959 and have been kicking myself ever since for not taking a picture of it. It was at the wye in South Woodbury and yes, was MofW gray, with the PRSL letters arranged diagonally, and a number which I cannot recall for certain, but I believe was in the low 200s (201? 202?).

PRSL work equipment pictures seem to be among the rarest of all pictures; very seldom see any. Because I lived in Sewell I managed to get a fair number, but many cars eluded me, and the hoppers were among them.

John C. La Rue, Jr.
Bonita Springs, FL

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Cc: members@prslhs.com
Sent: Sat, Jul 17, 2010 12:06 pm
Subject: [STMFC] PRSL Hoppers





All,

I know it is a long shot. Does anyone have any photos of PRSL hoppers? They
appear to be GLc, GLca or GLcb mostly likely in M O W gray. They lurked in
the background at Cold Spring Harbor as best as I can tell. I have 2 OK
partial photos but would really like photos of just the cars if possible. I
have 2 heavily reworked American Flyer cars that look like a GLca and are
going to get dunked and repainted.

Conversely I have seen photos of N&W, B&O and a H21 in the same spot.

Thank You,
Bill Lane

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Re: New Accurail Tooling

Tim O'Connor
 

Andy

Search the archives for Bill Welch's post:

"Modeling FGE/WFE/BRE/NX Steel cars"

Then search for FHIX or WHIX

Tim O'Connor

At 7/15/2010 11:18 PM Thursday, you wrote:
Gents,

It seems that Accurail has announced some new tooling on their website at http://www.accurail.com/accurail/new.htm

8300-Series 40' Steel Refrigerator Cars http://www.accurail.com/accurail/8300.HTM

8500-Series 40' Steel Plug Door Boxcars
http://www.accurail.com/accurail/8500.HTM

Thoughts on true prototypes for these?

Andy L.
South Bend, IN

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