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Re: Sunshine's current kits

pullmanboss <tcmadden@...>
 

Thanks Jim. That's good advice. I was curious about the availability after
I saw one of the vinegar tank cars on ebay:-
http://cgi.ebay.com/Sunshine-Models-Standard-Brands-Vinegar-Tankcar-/1604621
37927?pt=Model_RR_Trains

The bidders seemed to be very keen on paying $123 for a $45 kit, so I
wondered if it perhaps was no longer available.
Well, it _was_ one of Martin's Anniversary kits, and those always seem to do well on eBay. I don't know if Martin actually limited production of his Anniversary kits, but eBay bidders certainly seem to think he did.

Tom Madden


Re: Sunshine's current kits

robertb@smartchat.net.au
 

Thanks Jim. That's good advice. I was curious about the availability after
I saw one of the vinegar tank cars on ebay:-
http://cgi.ebay.com/Sunshine-Models-Standard-Brands-Vinegar-Tankcar-/1604621
37927?pt=Model_RR_Trains

The bidders seemed to be very keen on paying $123 for a $45 kit, so I
wondered if it perhaps was no longer available. I know delivery of kits by
Martin does take a while, but to pay 2.7 times the price just to get it now!

I'll now go ahead and order the kits I want and be happy to wait for when
Martin is able (in his schedule) to ship them, as well as getting two for
that kind of money.

Regards,

Robert Bogie

Original Message:
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From: Jim Hayes jimhayes97225@gmail.com
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 19:27:41 -0700
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Sunshine's current kits


Robert, The July 2009 price list together with the November 2009 New
Products sheet is the most up-to-date information available. I'm hoping to
see an updated list at Naperville in October. Sunshine is slow to
discontinue kits. I'd feel safe ordering the vinegar tank and anything else
that's listed on the 2009 price list. I can't guarantee any of this though.
Sunshine doesn't notify me when a kit is discontinued. I have to gather that
information by noticing what is no longer on the price list and it's
difficult to see what's not there. Sunshine normally discontinues a kit only
when they run out of instructions, decals or detail parts, or if the molds
are worn out and Martin figures it's not worth it to make new ones.

Jim


On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 7:00 PM, robertb@smartchat.net.au <
robertb@smartchat.net.au> wrote:



Jim,

The list of kits available on your site is as at 2009. Do you know if it
is
still accurate? I was contemplating ordering the Vinegar tank car, plus
some other NYC kits.

Regards,

Robert Bogie
Melbourne, Australia

Original Message:
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From: Jim Hayes jimhayes97225@gmail.com <jimhayes97225%40gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 15:59:52 -0700
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com <STMFC%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [STMFC] Sunshine Naperville Introductions

Today I received a flyer from Sunshine titled Naperville Introductions.
The
new introductions are

NC&St.L XM-32 36' steel rebuilt boxcar
Circumferential rivet tanks
GN 2501 series plywood express boxcars
GM&O 35200 40' DD autocar
CRI&P covered hopper for silica sand, Mini-Kit
ATSF Bx-41,42,45,46,49 ARA rebuilds
D&RGW 15' door 10'8" IH auto/grain box
Fruehauf ribbed trailers
NKP, LV, ATSF piggyback flat Mini-Kits

Photos of some are included. There's also a 2nd flyer which is identical
to
the ATSF convention flyer with the header changed.
The Naperville Introductions flyer can be viewed on my website on the
Meets
page.

Question: Does anyone know what circumferential rivet tankcar will be
sold?

Jim Hayes
Portland Oregon
www.sunshinekits.com

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Re: Sunshine's current kits

Jim Hayes
 

Robert, The July 2009 price list together with the November 2009 New
Products sheet is the most up-to-date information available. I'm hoping to
see an updated list at Naperville in October. Sunshine is slow to
discontinue kits. I'd feel safe ordering the vinegar tank and anything else
that's listed on the 2009 price list. I can't guarantee any of this though.
Sunshine doesn't notify me when a kit is discontinued. I have to gather that
information by noticing what is no longer on the price list and it's
difficult to see what's not there. Sunshine normally discontinues a kit only
when they run out of instructions, decals or detail parts, or if the molds
are worn out and Martin figures it's not worth it to make new ones.

Jim


On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 7:00 PM, robertb@smartchat.net.au <
robertb@smartchat.net.au> wrote:



Jim,

The list of kits available on your site is as at 2009. Do you know if it is
still accurate? I was contemplating ordering the Vinegar tank car, plus
some other NYC kits.

Regards,

Robert Bogie
Melbourne, Australia

Original Message:
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From: Jim Hayes jimhayes97225@gmail.com <jimhayes97225%40gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 15:59:52 -0700
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com <STMFC%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [STMFC] Sunshine Naperville Introductions

Today I received a flyer from Sunshine titled Naperville Introductions. The
new introductions are

NC&St.L XM-32 36' steel rebuilt boxcar
Circumferential rivet tanks
GN 2501 series plywood express boxcars
GM&O 35200 40' DD autocar
CRI&P covered hopper for silica sand, Mini-Kit
ATSF Bx-41,42,45,46,49 ARA rebuilds
D&RGW 15' door 10'8" IH auto/grain box
Fruehauf ribbed trailers
NKP, LV, ATSF piggyback flat Mini-Kits

Photos of some are included. There's also a 2nd flyer which is identical to
the ATSF convention flyer with the header changed.
The Naperville Introductions flyer can be viewed on my website on the Meets
page.

Question: Does anyone know what circumferential rivet tankcar will be sold?

Jim Hayes
Portland Oregon
www.sunshinekits.com

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Re: Sunshine's current kits

robertb@smartchat.net.au
 

Jim,

The list of kits available on your site is as at 2009. Do you know if it is
still accurate? I was contemplating ordering the Vinegar tank car, plus
some other NYC kits.

Regards,

Robert Bogie
Melbourne, Australia

Original Message:
-----------------
From: Jim Hayes jimhayes97225@gmail.com
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 15:59:52 -0700
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [STMFC] Sunshine Naperville Introductions


Today I received a flyer from Sunshine titled Naperville Introductions. The
new introductions are

NC&St.L XM-32 36' steel rebuilt boxcar
Circumferential rivet tanks
GN 2501 series plywood express boxcars
GM&O 35200 40' DD autocar
CRI&P covered hopper for silica sand, Mini-Kit
ATSF Bx-41,42,45,46,49 ARA rebuilds
D&RGW 15' door 10'8" IH auto/grain box
Fruehauf ribbed trailers
NKP, LV, ATSF piggyback flat Mini-Kits

Photos of some are included. There's also a 2nd flyer which is identical to
the ATSF convention flyer with the header changed.
The Naperville Introductions flyer can be viewed on my website on the Meets
page.

Question: Does anyone know what circumferential rivet tankcar will be sold?

Jim Hayes
Portland Oregon
www.sunshinekits.com


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Re: Sunshine Naperville Introductions

seaboard_1966
 

Guy

We at WrightTRAK will be there as well and will be featuring 2 new kits. One a PRR prototype and the other a SAL prototype. That is all I have to say. See you guys at the Naperville Show. We will be having sales out of our suite during the weekend as well as being present at the show.

Denis Blake
One of The WrightTRAK Guys

2011 Central Ohio Prototype Modelers Meet, May 5-8

http://www.facebook.com/pages/manage/#!/pages/Central-Ohio-Prototype-Modelers-Meet/326645470797

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From: "Brian J Carlson" <prrk41361@yahoo.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 8:18 PM
To: <STMFC@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RE: [STMFC] Sunshine Naperville Introductions

This is going to be one expensive Naperville if all these kits show up.



Brian J. Carlson, P.E.

Cheektowaga NY

prrk41361@yahoo.com



From: STMFC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:STMFC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jim
Hayes
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 7:00 PM
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [STMFC] Sunshine Naperville Introductions





Today I received a flyer from Sunshine titled Naperville Introductions. The
new introductions are

NC&St.L XM-32 36' steel rebuilt boxcar
Circumferential rivet tanks
GN 2501 series plywood express boxcars
GM&O 35200 40' DD autocar
CRI&P covered hopper for silica sand, Mini-Kit
ATSF Bx-41,42,45,46,49 ARA rebuilds
D&RGW 15' door 10'8" IH auto/grain box
Fruehauf ribbed trailers
NKP, LV, ATSF piggyback flat Mini-Kits

Photos of some are included. There's also a 2nd flyer which is identical to
the ATSF convention flyer with the header changed.
The Naperville Introductions flyer can be viewed on my website on the Meets
page.

Question: Does anyone know what circumferential rivet tankcar will be sold?

Jim Hayes
Portland Oregon
www.sunshinekits.com









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Re: Sunshine Naperville Introductions

Bill Welch
 

As a ya'll road modeler I am thrilled to finally see the little NC&StL rebuild. Martin has had the components of this car in the works for well over a decade. They had Murphy ends in addition to the reversed Hutchins ends. In addition to the "stripe" scheme there was at least what I would call the "script" scheme with Dixieland in what looks like a fountain pen stroke which Martin is doing also.

Bill Welch
Clearwater, FL

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Jim Hayes <jimhayes97225@...> wrote:

Today I received a flyer from Sunshine titled Naperville Introductions. The
new introductions are

NC&St.L XM-32 36' steel rebuilt boxcar
Circumferential rivet tanks
GN 2501 series plywood express boxcars
GM&O 35200 40' DD autocar
CRI&P covered hopper for silica sand, Mini-Kit
ATSF Bx-41,42,45,46,49 ARA rebuilds
D&RGW 15' door 10'8" IH auto/grain box
Fruehauf ribbed trailers
NKP, LV, ATSF piggyback flat Mini-Kits

Photos of some are included. There's also a 2nd flyer which is identical to
the ATSF convention flyer with the header changed.
The Naperville Introductions flyer can be viewed on my website on the Meets
page.

Question: Does anyone know what circumferential rivet tankcar will be sold?

Jim Hayes
Portland Oregon
www.sunshinekits.com


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Re: Sunshine Naperville Introductions

Pierre <pierre.oliver@...>
 

I would hope so. I'm afraid of the alternatives. :-)
Pierre Oliver

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "mike brock" <brockm@...> wrote:

Jim Hayes says:


Circumferential rivet tanks
Is this a tank car? I assume so, this being the STMFC. Is it a radial tank
car?

Mike Brock


Re: Sunshine Naperville Introductions

Brian Carlson
 

This is going to be one expensive Naperville if all these kits show up.



Brian J. Carlson, P.E.

Cheektowaga NY

prrk41361@yahoo.com



From: STMFC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:STMFC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jim
Hayes
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 7:00 PM
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [STMFC] Sunshine Naperville Introductions





Today I received a flyer from Sunshine titled Naperville Introductions. The
new introductions are

NC&St.L XM-32 36' steel rebuilt boxcar
Circumferential rivet tanks
GN 2501 series plywood express boxcars
GM&O 35200 40' DD autocar
CRI&P covered hopper for silica sand, Mini-Kit
ATSF Bx-41,42,45,46,49 ARA rebuilds
D&RGW 15' door 10'8" IH auto/grain box
Fruehauf ribbed trailers
NKP, LV, ATSF piggyback flat Mini-Kits

Photos of some are included. There's also a 2nd flyer which is identical to
the ATSF convention flyer with the header changed.
The Naperville Introductions flyer can be viewed on my website on the Meets
page.

Question: Does anyone know what circumferential rivet tankcar will be sold?

Jim Hayes
Portland Oregon
www.sunshinekits.com


Re: Sunshine Naperville Introductions

mike brock <brockm@...>
 

Jim Hayes says:


Circumferential rivet tanks
Is this a tank car? I assume so, this being the STMFC. Is it a radial tank car?

Mike Brock


Re: Sunshine Naperville Introductions

al_brown03
 

The Barrett tank shown has five courses, and those look like AC&F tank mounts (if I have my spotting features right) ... *and* a Dixie Line rebuild? Wow, wish I could go.

Al Brown, Melbourne, Fla.

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Jim Hayes <jimhayes97225@...> wrote:

Today I received a flyer from Sunshine titled Naperville Introductions. The
new introductions are

NC&St.L XM-32 36' steel rebuilt boxcar
Circumferential rivet tanks
GN 2501 series plywood express boxcars
GM&O 35200 40' DD autocar
CRI&P covered hopper for silica sand, Mini-Kit
ATSF Bx-41,42,45,46,49 ARA rebuilds
D&RGW 15' door 10'8" IH auto/grain box
Fruehauf ribbed trailers
NKP, LV, ATSF piggyback flat Mini-Kits

Photos of some are included. There's also a 2nd flyer which is identical to
the ATSF convention flyer with the header changed.
The Naperville Introductions flyer can be viewed on my website on the Meets
page.

Question: Does anyone know what circumferential rivet tankcar will be sold?

Jim Hayes
Portland Oregon
www.sunshinekits.com


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Sunshine Naperville Introductions

Jim Hayes
 

Today I received a flyer from Sunshine titled Naperville Introductions. The
new introductions are

NC&St.L XM-32 36' steel rebuilt boxcar
Circumferential rivet tanks
GN 2501 series plywood express boxcars
GM&O 35200 40' DD autocar
CRI&P covered hopper for silica sand, Mini-Kit
ATSF Bx-41,42,45,46,49 ARA rebuilds
D&RGW 15' door 10'8" IH auto/grain box
Fruehauf ribbed trailers
NKP, LV, ATSF piggyback flat Mini-Kits

Photos of some are included. There's also a 2nd flyer which is identical to
the ATSF convention flyer with the header changed.
The Naperville Introductions flyer can be viewed on my website on the Meets
page.

Question: Does anyone know what circumferential rivet tankcar will be sold?

Jim Hayes
Portland Oregon
www.sunshinekits.com


Re: Cotton Seed Oil Tank Cars

earlyrail
 

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "nativetexan" <ceth512@...> wrote:



--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "earlyrail" <cascaderail@> wrote:

Quick answer in - none.

A compress was just a warehouse that received cotton bales from the cotton gins and compressed them to make more fit into ships for shipping. These were more or less centralized on the route from the production areas to the using/overseas shipping areas.
Howard Garner
True. However, when I mentioned "Cotton Compress", I meant the entire process from ginning to compressing to the processing of the seeds for oil and the byproduct of hulls/meal. The two facilities I am modeling, one in Elgin, Texas and the other in Austin did the whole operation.

Charles Etheredge
Austin, Texas
And I was thinking of the Cotton Compress as a stand alone business. Columbia, SC is one location that I know of and there were several in Texas. Even though the cotton was in compressed bales from the gin, a cotton compress business had more powerful compresses and reduced the bale size by at least a third again.

A Cotton Compress was one of those businesses the usually had a "milling in transit" tariff.

Howard Garner
Pickens, SC


Re: NeoLube in a pencil?

Richard New <loco7mo@...>
 

Hmm. I was always told that the "Hob-E-Lube" 7-pak workbench assortment (HL650) was better. For any lubing.
 
Richard New

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From: Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@comcast.net>
Subject: [STMFC] NeoLube in a pencil?
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, August 12, 2010, 11:22 AM


 



I don't know, but this might be useful for very small "spot" lubes...
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003WE8TRC/ref=pe_20140_16556520_snp_dp

Tim O'Connor


O Scale G26 for sale

Bill Lane
 

All

I have a Precision Scale Models O Scale PRR G26 I am selling for a friend. http://lanestrains.com/O_Scale_Photos/O_Scale_PRR_G26_Gondola.jpg I painted it about 6 years ago. I would call the weathering "just dusty".

Please reply directly to me with your interest. $250.00 or best offer. Shipping and optional insurance are extra.

Thank You,
Bill Lane

Modeling the Mighty Pennsy & PRSL in 1957 in S Scale since 1988

See my finished models at:
http://www.lanestrains.com
Look at what has been made in PRR in S Scale!

Custom Train Parts Design
http://www.lanestrains.com/SolidWorks_Modeling.htm

PRR Builders Photos Bought, Sold & Traded
(Trading is MUCH preferred)
http://www.lanestrains.com/PRRphotos.xls

***Join the PRR T&HS***
The other members are not ALL like me!
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Join the Pennsylvania Reading Seashore Lines Historical Society
It's FREE to join! http://www.prslhs.com
Preserving The Memory Of The PRSL


WPM 2010 - Western Prototype Modelers Meet

dh30973
 

WPM 2010 - Western Prototype Modelers Meet

When: Saturday September 18, 2010
Where: San Bernardino Santa Fe Depot
1170 West Third Street. - San Bernardino, CA 92403
What Time: 9:00 AM to 6:00 PM

The west coast's largest gathering for railroad prototype modelers, now in it's 21th year!

Come to WPM and see hundreds of locomotive, freight and passenger car, caboose, MOW, structure, and vehicle prototype models on display while countless 1:1 scale BNSF and UP trains roll-by just feet from the depot.
Clinics and seminars will be offered throughout the day and operating N Scale "Free-mo" modular layout exhibits are planned. Visit the San Bernardino Historical and Railroad Museum located in the west-end of the depot.
Tons of raffle prizes donated by generous hobby retailers, publishers & model manufacturers will be up for grabs.
Bring your modeling projects, finished, or "in the works". Share ideas and techniques with fellow modelers and meet new friends!

Registration starts at 8:30AM
Doors Open at 9:00AM

Scheduled Presentations start at 10:00
10:00 Butch Eiler – Weathering Freight Cars in the Modern Era
11:15 Scott Chatfield - All About 1st Generation GPs
12:15 Mini-Raffle and Lunch Break
1:30 Bill Schaumburg - An Introduction to Commuter Railroad Operations
2:45 Bob Zenk – SP's Krauss-Maffei: A Love-Hate Story
4:00 Chris Clune - Exact Rail – What is Involved with Producing Models
5:00 Raffle Round 2

San Bernardino depot is served by both Amtrak and Metrolink. Links to schedules are posted on our web site.
Exhibitors: Manufacturers, photographers and publishers will participate in WPM (Exhibitors: pre-registration is required, contact WPM at the phone number below.)
For updated info on presentations, program, schedule and photos of past meets:
www.WesternPrototypeModelers.org or call Tim Costello at (714) 832-8696

WPM welcomes modelers of all roads, all scales and eras!

WPM Meet admission: $15.00, or $12.00 if you bring a model(s) to display

Plenty of free parking

Dave Hussey
WPM Committee


NeoLube in a pencil?

Tim O'Connor
 

I don't know, but this might be useful for very small "spot" lubes...
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003WE8TRC/ref=pe_20140_16556520_snp_dp

Tim O'Connor


Re: Cotton Seed Oil Tank Cars

Charles Etheredge
 

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "earlyrail" <cascaderail@...> wrote:

Quick answer in - none.

A compress was just a warehouse that received cotton bales from the cotton gins and compressed them to make more fit into ships for shipping. These were more or less centralized on the route from the production areas to the using/overseas shipping areas.

Cotton seed oil was processed closer the the gins. Back 80 years ago many of the larger gins have a oil mill located near by. Today the oil mill business is more centralized and the cotton seed is sent to the mill. One modern mill warehouses cotton seed in Mississippi and does its processing in Texas.

Check some Sanborn (or other) fire insurance maps for your time frame.

Howard Garner
True. However, when I mentioned "Cotton Compress", I meant the entire process from ginning to compressing to the processing of the seeds for oil and the byproduct of hulls/meal. The two facilities I am modeling, one in Elgin, Texas and the other in Austin did the whole operation.

Charles Etheredge
Austin, Texas


Re: 2011 NMRA Convention...

Jack Burgess
 

Maybe it would work if it was a Star Wars Convention!

Jack

<Jack - I can understand why it's so cheap. If I pay in August 2011 I'll
<have missed the convention by a month! - Al


Re: 2011 NMRA Convention...

Al and Patricia Westerfield <westerfield@...>
 

Jack - I can understand why it's so cheap. If I pay in August 2011 I'll have missed the convention by a month! - Al

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From: Jack Burgess
To: Steam Era Freight Cars
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 9:30 PM
Subject: [STMFC] 2011 NMRA Convention...



X2011 West, the 2011 National Model Railroad Convention, will be held in
Sacramento, CA on July 3-9, 2011. The current registration fee for the
Convention is a very cheap $99! But that price will be available only until
September 1, 2011, after it will increase to $139. The Convention will
feature a full RPM meet, a number of freight car clinics, and an Advance
Section of layout tours in the San Francisco Bay area (including my own). To
register now, go to

www.x2011west.org/registration.html

The Convention committee apologizes for cross-postings to various groups but
we want to get the word out to as many modelers as possible before the cost
of registration increases.

Jack Burgess
Newark, CA


Re: Cotton Seed Oil Tank Cars

al_brown03
 

IIRC there was an article in one of the journals on cottonseed oil and tank cars for it, within the past 5-10 years. This was a significant industry in east Texas back when. Now to remember where the article is ... the recently discontinued mrmag database was good for this kind of search.

-- frustrated! --

-- Al Brown, Melbourne, Fla.

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Anthony Thompson <thompson@...> wrote:

Charles Etheredge wrote:
What kind of tank cars would have been used to transport cotton seed
oil from the local cotton compress during the steam era?
I am currently modeling cotton compresses in two different Texas
towns and need some type of cars to haul the oil to the soap
manufacturers, potato chip manufacturers, and whereever else the oil
would be used. I assume they would be leased tank cars with perhaps
the companies' name stenciled on the side.
Secondly, are there any models that would fit or could be kitbashed
to be close to prototypical?
Charles, any ICC 103 would be fine. SP made available some of its
tank cars for this purpose; doubtless lots of leased cars were so
employed also (GATX, SHPX, NATX, etc.), though in the steam era UTLX
not so likely. You could certainly use plain black cars with those
marks, with 8000-gallon cars probably the likely size. If you know of
cottonseed oil companies, you could research to see if they had their
own cars (I don't know of any, but haven't looked). If they leased
cars and painted their logo on them, you would need photos to find out.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@...
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