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Re: 10,000 Gallon Insulated Tank Car Walthers new release...
dakkinder
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Sorry forgot to sign Doug kinder :)
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10,000 Gallon Insulated Tank Car Walthers new release...
dakkinder
Is this a rehash of there type 21 riveted cars or an entirely new tooling?
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Re: Sunshine Naperville Introductions
Bill Welch
Dear Frank
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I had not picked up the variations for the Hutchins ends. As for the yellow stripes on their boxcars, I do not know when these began to appear. None of the 3 books I have on the NC&StL talk anything about their freight cars nor did the FCJ monograph put a date to this scheme. My bet is that your research makes you are the authority on this, at least I am nominating you as such! Bill Welch
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Re: Sunshine Naperville Introductions
FRANK PEACOCK
Bill, I too am glad Martin is doing the NC&StL XM-32 as it was the largest class on the railroad in 1947. I wonder which Hutchins end he is doing? I did a quick check of one that I saw in 1987 in Illinois and it had two section Hutchins ends, not the four section end shown on p.23 of Freight Cars Journal No. 63. This same publication has as you know some good stenciling diagrams in it including the "To and From Dixieland" (Brush Stroke) and the same in the much finer, earlier script lettering. A question for you and the group: When did the N&C begin to use the large horizontal stripes on box cars? The earliest that I can document is Sept. 1946. I have a feeling that in my era not many of these would be around, which is okay since I like the other "To and From Dixieland" Stencils better. FHP (Frank H. Peacock)
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To: STMFC@... From: fgexbill@... Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 01:36:41 +0000 Subject: [STMFC] Re: Sunshine Naperville Introductions As a ya'll road modeler I am thrilled to finally see the little NC&StL rebuild. Martin has had the components of this car in the works for well over a decade. They had Murphy ends in addition to the reversed Hutchins ends. In addition to the "stripe" scheme there was at least what I would call the "script" scheme with Dixieland in what looks like a fountain pen stroke which Martin is doing also. Bill Welch Clearwater, FL
--- In STMFC@..., Jim Hayes <jimhayes97225@...> wrote:
Today I received a flyer from Sunshine titled Naperville Introductions. The new introductions are NC&St.L XM-32 36' steel rebuilt boxcar Circumferential rivet tanks GN 2501 series plywood express boxcars GM&O 35200 40' DD autocar CRI&P covered hopper for silica sand, Mini-Kit ATSF Bx-41,42,45,46,49 ARA rebuilds D&RGW 15' door 10'8" IH auto/grain box Fruehauf ribbed trailers NKP, LV, ATSF piggyback flat Mini-Kits Photos of some are included. There's also a 2nd flyer which is identical to the ATSF convention flyer with the header changed. The Naperville Introductions flyer can be viewed on my website on the Meets page. Question: Does anyone know what circumferential rivet tankcar will be sold? Jim Hayes Portland Oregon www.sunshinekits.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: Sunshine's current kits
Jack Burgess <jack@...>
I've sold a few Sunshine kits on eBay that I shouldn't purchased in the
first place and there was a lot of interest by over-seas modelers...Martin doesn't sell over the Internet nor does he accept credit cards or checks from outside the US. So, many modelers are stuck... Jack Burgess www.yosemitevalleyrr.com <Wow. $123.50. Yet I'm not surprised. There are people out there willing <to <pay a lot to get a Sunshine kit now rather than in 6 months, or they are <unaware that they're still available. < <Jim
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Re: Sunshine Naperville Introductions
Jim Hayes
Sorry Roland but I don't have the flyers yet. I posted everything I
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received. I won't have the flyers until I journey to the Naperville RPM meet in October. Expect to see them on my website on the 27th or 28th of October. Jim Hayes Portland Oregon www.sunshinekits.com
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 12:02 AM, <roland.levin@...> wrote:
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Re: Sunshine Naperville Introductions
Roland Levin
Jim
Will you scan the flyer and post it to your website? I'm interested in more information about the D&RGW car. Roland Levin Stockholm, Sweden http://hem.bredband.net/drgw Från: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] För Jim Hayes Skickat: den 13 augusti 2010 01:00 Till: STMFC@... Ämne: [STMFC] Sunshine Naperville Introductions Today I received a flyer from Sunshine titled Naperville Introductions. The new introductions are NC&St.L XM-32 36' steel rebuilt boxcar Circumferential rivet tanks GN 2501 series plywood express boxcars GM&O 35200 40' DD autocar CRI&P covered hopper for silica sand, Mini-Kit ATSF Bx-41,42,45,46,49 ARA rebuilds D&RGW 15' door 10'8" IH auto/grain box Fruehauf ribbed trailers NKP, LV, ATSF piggyback flat Mini-Kits Photos of some are included. There's also a 2nd flyer which is identical to the ATSF convention flyer with the header changed. The Naperville Introductions flyer can be viewed on my website on the Meets page. Question: Does anyone know what circumferential rivet tankcar will be sold? Jim Hayes Portland Oregon www.sunshinekits.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: Sunshine's current kits
Jim Hayes
Wow. $123.50. Yet I'm not surprised. There are people out there willing to
pay a lot to get a Sunshine kit now rather than in 6 months, or they are unaware that they're still available. Jim On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 9:29 PM, robertb@... < robertb@...> wrote:
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Re: Sunshine's current kits
pullmanboss <tcmadden@...>
Thanks Jim. That's good advice. I was curious about the availability afterWell, it _was_ one of Martin's Anniversary kits, and those always seem to do well on eBay. I don't know if Martin actually limited production of his Anniversary kits, but eBay bidders certainly seem to think he did. Tom Madden
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Re: Sunshine's current kits
robertb@smartchat.net.au
Thanks Jim. That's good advice. I was curious about the availability after
I saw one of the vinegar tank cars on ebay:- http://cgi.ebay.com/Sunshine-Models-Standard-Brands-Vinegar-Tankcar-/1604621 37927?pt=Model_RR_Trains The bidders seemed to be very keen on paying $123 for a $45 kit, so I wondered if it perhaps was no longer available. I know delivery of kits by Martin does take a while, but to pay 2.7 times the price just to get it now! I'll now go ahead and order the kits I want and be happy to wait for when Martin is able (in his schedule) to ship them, as well as getting two for that kind of money. Regards, Robert Bogie Original Message: ----------------- From: Jim Hayes jimhayes97225@... Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 19:27:41 -0700 To: STMFC@... Subject: Re: [STMFC] Sunshine's current kits Robert, The July 2009 price list together with the November 2009 New Products sheet is the most up-to-date information available. I'm hoping to see an updated list at Naperville in October. Sunshine is slow to discontinue kits. I'd feel safe ordering the vinegar tank and anything else that's listed on the 2009 price list. I can't guarantee any of this though. Sunshine doesn't notify me when a kit is discontinued. I have to gather that information by noticing what is no longer on the price list and it's difficult to see what's not there. Sunshine normally discontinues a kit only when they run out of instructions, decals or detail parts, or if the molds are worn out and Martin figures it's not worth it to make new ones. Jim On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 7:00 PM, robertb@... < robertb@...> wrote: is still accurate? I was contemplating ordering the Vinegar tank car, plusThe new introductions areto the ATSF convention flyer with the header changed.Meets page.sold?
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Re: Sunshine's current kits
Jim Hayes
Robert, The July 2009 price list together with the November 2009 New
Products sheet is the most up-to-date information available. I'm hoping to see an updated list at Naperville in October. Sunshine is slow to discontinue kits. I'd feel safe ordering the vinegar tank and anything else that's listed on the 2009 price list. I can't guarantee any of this though. Sunshine doesn't notify me when a kit is discontinued. I have to gather that information by noticing what is no longer on the price list and it's difficult to see what's not there. Sunshine normally discontinues a kit only when they run out of instructions, decals or detail parts, or if the molds are worn out and Martin figures it's not worth it to make new ones. Jim On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 7:00 PM, robertb@... < robertb@...> wrote:
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Re: Sunshine's current kits
robertb@smartchat.net.au
Jim,
The list of kits available on your site is as at 2009. Do you know if it is still accurate? I was contemplating ordering the Vinegar tank car, plus some other NYC kits. Regards, Robert Bogie Melbourne, Australia Original Message: ----------------- From: Jim Hayes jimhayes97225@... Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 15:59:52 -0700 To: STMFC@... Subject: [STMFC] Sunshine Naperville Introductions Today I received a flyer from Sunshine titled Naperville Introductions. The new introductions are NC&St.L XM-32 36' steel rebuilt boxcar Circumferential rivet tanks GN 2501 series plywood express boxcars GM&O 35200 40' DD autocar CRI&P covered hopper for silica sand, Mini-Kit ATSF Bx-41,42,45,46,49 ARA rebuilds D&RGW 15' door 10'8" IH auto/grain box Fruehauf ribbed trailers NKP, LV, ATSF piggyback flat Mini-Kits Photos of some are included. There's also a 2nd flyer which is identical to the ATSF convention flyer with the header changed. The Naperville Introductions flyer can be viewed on my website on the Meets page. Question: Does anyone know what circumferential rivet tankcar will be sold? Jim Hayes Portland Oregon www.sunshinekits.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web LIVE – Free email based on Microsoft® Exchange technology - http://link.mail2web.com/LIVE
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Re: Sunshine Naperville Introductions
seaboard_1966
Guy
We at WrightTRAK will be there as well and will be featuring 2 new kits. One a PRR prototype and the other a SAL prototype. That is all I have to say. See you guys at the Naperville Show. We will be having sales out of our suite during the weekend as well as being present at the show. Denis Blake One of The WrightTRAK Guys 2011 Central Ohio Prototype Modelers Meet, May 5-8 http://www.facebook.com/pages/manage/#!/pages/Central-Ohio-Prototype-Modelers-Meet/326645470797 -------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian J Carlson" <prrk41361@...> Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 8:18 PM To: <STMFC@...> Subject: RE: [STMFC] Sunshine Naperville Introductions This is going to be one expensive Naperville if all these kits show up.
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Re: Sunshine Naperville Introductions
Bill Welch
As a ya'll road modeler I am thrilled to finally see the little NC&StL rebuild. Martin has had the components of this car in the works for well over a decade. They had Murphy ends in addition to the reversed Hutchins ends. In addition to the "stripe" scheme there was at least what I would call the "script" scheme with Dixieland in what looks like a fountain pen stroke which Martin is doing also.
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Bill Welch Clearwater, FL
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Re: Sunshine Naperville Introductions
Pierre <pierre.oliver@...>
I would hope so. I'm afraid of the alternatives. :-)
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Pierre Oliver
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Re: Sunshine Naperville Introductions
This is going to be one expensive Naperville if all these kits show up.
Brian J. Carlson, P.E. Cheektowaga NY prrk41361@... From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of Jim Hayes Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 7:00 PM To: STMFC@... Subject: [STMFC] Sunshine Naperville Introductions Today I received a flyer from Sunshine titled Naperville Introductions. The new introductions are NC&St.L XM-32 36' steel rebuilt boxcar Circumferential rivet tanks GN 2501 series plywood express boxcars GM&O 35200 40' DD autocar CRI&P covered hopper for silica sand, Mini-Kit ATSF Bx-41,42,45,46,49 ARA rebuilds D&RGW 15' door 10'8" IH auto/grain box Fruehauf ribbed trailers NKP, LV, ATSF piggyback flat Mini-Kits Photos of some are included. There's also a 2nd flyer which is identical to the ATSF convention flyer with the header changed. The Naperville Introductions flyer can be viewed on my website on the Meets page. Question: Does anyone know what circumferential rivet tankcar will be sold? Jim Hayes Portland Oregon www.sunshinekits.com
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Re: Sunshine Naperville Introductions
mike brock <brockm@...>
Jim Hayes says:
Circumferential rivet tanksIs this a tank car? I assume so, this being the STMFC. Is it a radial tank car? Mike Brock
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Re: Sunshine Naperville Introductions
al_brown03
The Barrett tank shown has five courses, and those look like AC&F tank mounts (if I have my spotting features right) ... *and* a Dixie Line rebuild? Wow, wish I could go.
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Al Brown, Melbourne, Fla.
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Sunshine Naperville Introductions
Jim Hayes
Today I received a flyer from Sunshine titled Naperville Introductions. The
new introductions are NC&St.L XM-32 36' steel rebuilt boxcar Circumferential rivet tanks GN 2501 series plywood express boxcars GM&O 35200 40' DD autocar CRI&P covered hopper for silica sand, Mini-Kit ATSF Bx-41,42,45,46,49 ARA rebuilds D&RGW 15' door 10'8" IH auto/grain box Fruehauf ribbed trailers NKP, LV, ATSF piggyback flat Mini-Kits Photos of some are included. There's also a 2nd flyer which is identical to the ATSF convention flyer with the header changed. The Naperville Introductions flyer can be viewed on my website on the Meets page. Question: Does anyone know what circumferential rivet tankcar will be sold? Jim Hayes Portland Oregon www.sunshinekits.com
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Re: Cotton Seed Oil Tank Cars
earlyrail
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And I was thinking of the Cotton Compress as a stand alone business. Columbia, SC is one location that I know of and there were several in Texas. Even though the cotton was in compressed bales from the gin, a cotton compress business had more powerful compresses and reduced the bale size by at least a third again.Howard GarnerTrue. However, when I mentioned "Cotton Compress", I meant the entire process from ginning to compressing to the processing of the seeds for oil and the byproduct of hulls/meal. The two facilities I am modeling, one in Elgin, Texas and the other in Austin did the whole operation. A Cotton Compress was one of those businesses the usually had a "milling in transit" tariff. Howard Garner Pickens, SC
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