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Re: Wheelset Jig

RDG2124 <RDG2124@...>
 

Same Stuff -- if not the same formula as Ambroid's Pro-Weld, it works the same. Ambroid's Pro-Weld was one of three styrene glues I use, Same Stuff has replaced it. No differences noted.


Evan Leisey
Bennett, CO

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From: Brian J Carlson <prrk41361@...>
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Sent: Sat, Sep 25, 2010 11:00 pm
Subject: RE: [STMFC] Re: Wheelset Jig




Ambroid Pro-weld? It's still available out here in NY. Micro-Mark sells "Same Stuff" which is intentionally packaged similar to Ambroid and it works too.

Brian J. Carlson, P.E.

Cheektowaga NY

prrk41361@...

From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of cobrapsl@...
Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2010 12:53 AM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: Wheelset Jig

Damn Brian, I did not that still even made that stuff! Thanks
Paul Lyons

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To: STMFC@... <mailto:STMFC%40yahoogroups.com>;
Sent: Sat, Sep 25, 2010 9:26 pm
Subject: RE: [STMFC] Re: Wheelset Jig

Ambroid liquid worked perfectly for me.

Brian J. Carlson, P.E.

Cheektowaga NY

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Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 7:36 PM
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Subject: [STMFC] Re: Wheelset Jig

AMB/Laserkit's wheelset jig works very well. I use it frequently. My only
problem with it was that it is made from acrylic and is difficult to
assemble. MEK does not work and ACC only somewhat. The instructions lists
the
adhesive to use, but I did not get any for this one-time job.

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Re: PRR/N&W H30a Covered Hoppers

Tim O'Connor
 

Tom

Evidently, someone has finished a Railshop H30! :-)

http://www.modeltrainsweathered.com/hdpchopper.jpg

Tim O'Connor

--- In STMFC@..., "haagtk" <haagtk@...> wrote:

Good luck on the kit. I purchased one and I also got the basic shell done......then gave up. I had problems trying to get the brake to sit in properly and I was not sure exactly how the ladder cage assembly would fit correctly. I think I gave up when I realized the final product would not be worth the aggrevation of the rest of the assembly. I have not been that fustrated since trying to assemble the F&C version of this car....which succumbed to the "stomp" factor.

I am not new to resin kits and have assembled a number of Rail Yard Model kits.

Curious if anyone else out there have actually finished one of these Railshop H30 covered hoppers?

-Tom Haag


Re: Accurail single-sheathed box cars and SL-SF single-sheathed box cars

cinderandeight@...
 

Gene,
The earliest ad for Union Metal Products dreadnaught ends that I have
seen appeared in the March 31 1928 issue of Railway Age on page 32 of the
advertisement section. Perhaps a slightly earlier ad appeared, but I
haven't seen it. Ads for UMP in 1927 all featured various corrugated drop doors
for gondolas, and hoppers. These early dreadnaught ends were of a 3-3-3
configuration.
Rich Burg


Re: Wheelset Jig

Brian Carlson
 

Ambroid Pro-weld? It's still available out here in NY. Micro-Mark sells "Same Stuff" which is intentionally packaged similar to Ambroid and it works too.



Brian J. Carlson, P.E.

Cheektowaga NY

prrk41361@...



From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of cobrapsl@...
Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2010 12:53 AM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: Wheelset Jig





Damn Brian, I did not that still even made that stuff! Thanks
Paul Lyons

-----Original Message-----
From: Brian J Carlson <prrk41361@... <mailto:prrk41361%40yahoo.com> >
To: STMFC@... <mailto:STMFC%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sat, Sep 25, 2010 9:26 pm
Subject: RE: [STMFC] Re: Wheelset Jig

Ambroid liquid worked perfectly for me.

Brian J. Carlson, P.E.

Cheektowaga NY

prrk41361@... <mailto:prrk41361%40yahoo.com>

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Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 7:36 PM
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Subject: [STMFC] Re: Wheelset Jig

AMB/Laserkit's wheelset jig works very well. I use it frequently. My only
problem with it was that it is made from acrylic and is difficult to
assemble. MEK does not work and ACC only somewhat. The instructions lists
the
adhesive to use, but I did not get any for this one-time job.

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Re: Wheelset Jig

Paul Lyons
 

Damn Brian, I did not that still even made that stuff! Thanks
Paul Lyons

-----Original Message-----
From: Brian J Carlson <prrk41361@...>
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Sat, Sep 25, 2010 9:26 pm
Subject: RE: [STMFC] Re: Wheelset Jig




Ambroid liquid worked perfectly for me.

Brian J. Carlson, P.E.

Cheektowaga NY

prrk41361@...

From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of
asychis@...
Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 7:36 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Wheelset Jig

AMB/Laserkit's wheelset jig works very well. I use it frequently. My only
problem with it was that it is made from acrylic and is difficult to
assemble. MEK does not work and ACC only somewhat. The instructions lists
the
adhesive to use, but I did not get any for this one-time job.









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Re: Wheelset Jig

Brian Carlson
 

Ambroid liquid worked perfectly for me.



Brian J. Carlson, P.E.

Cheektowaga NY

prrk41361@...



From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of
asychis@...
Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 7:36 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Wheelset Jig





AMB/Laserkit's wheelset jig works very well. I use it frequently. My only
problem with it was that it is made from acrylic and is difficult to
assemble. MEK does not work and ACC only somewhat. The instructions lists
the
adhesive to use, but I did not get any for this one-time job.


Re: Wheelset Jig

RDG2124 <RDG2124@...>
 

A buddy gave up on gluing his and replacing the cross pieces with a block of wood and wood screws.


Evan Leisey
Bennett, CO

-----Original Message-----
From: asychis@...
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Sat, Sep 25, 2010 5:35 pm
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Wheelset Jig




AMB/Laserkit's wheelset jig works very well. I use it frequently. My only
problem with it was that it is made from acrylic and is difficult to
assemble. MEK does not work and ACC only somewhat. The instructions lists the
adhesive to use, but I did not get any for this one-time job.

Jerry Michels

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Re: Accurail single-sheathed box cars and SL-SF single-sheathed box cars.

Bill Welch
 

Gene:

Both of the cars in the photos you refer to are also rebuilt with steel sides. The stenciling on these was only applied to these rebuilds I believe in the early 1950's. These Howe truss cars had a straight centersill instead of a fishbelly, which is easy to work up with the kit's u/f.

I cannot find the notebook w/my SL-SF photos, but I believe they had both wood and steel doors that tended to get mixed up when shopped meaning a car built with wood doors could leave the shops w/steel and the other way around. I will keep looking.

The stenciling on the Accurail car looks pretty much like my Sunshine model.

Bill Welch

--- In STMFC@..., "Gene" <bierglaeser@...> wrote:

Accurail offers a single-sheathed box car (#7203) lettered for SL-SF 34328, lettered built 1936, re-weighed 1951with 6-panel sides, wood doors, Dreadnaught ends, ladders (instead of grab irons), a vertical-wheel power hand brake and a fish-belly underframe. I assume the model has wood running boards.

Does Accurail 7203 possess the correct basic set of features - ends, roof, sides, doors - for SL-SF 34328?
For what approximate time period is the Accurail lettering on 7203 appropriate?

I found two pictures of similar SFSF box cars on the internet. The most notable differences are the metal door and lettering.

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=118626
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=68713

For what approximate time period is the lettering in these two photos appropriate?

Somehow I have a copy of "General Arrangement of Outside Steel Frame 40-Ton Frisco Box Car" from Railway Age Gazette, Mechanical Edition, October 1912, page 558. Surely there must have been an article on adjacent pages with more information. There is no end view on my page. The car in the drawing has:
6-panel sides
ladders
wood door
fish-belly underframe
KC air brake
Plate A or vertical staff hand brake
Wood running boards
Outside metal roof of some sort

It appears as if either a model from the Accurail "7000 Series 6-Panel Wood Boxcar with Wood Doors & Wood Ends" or the "7200 Series 6-Panel Wood Boxcar with Wood Doors & Dreadnaught Ends" might be a suitable model for the car in the drawing depending upon whether or not the car in the drawing has Dreadnaught ends.

Does anyone have additional information on these 1912 Frisco single-sheathed box cars? Were they ever built?

The earliest ad I have found for Dreadnaught ends is 1928. Does anyone know of anything earlier?

Gene Green

BTW, this message was composed in Microsoft's NotePad. Does anyone see any odd, extra or stray characters?


Re: Wheelset Jig

James F. Brewer <jfbrewer@...>
 

I bought the AMB wheelset jig and used it; it is easy to use and makes of job of painting wheelsets a bit easier; however, I recently purchased some micro-brushh applicators and now use these exclusively for painting wheels; I purchased mine from MicroMark, but have seen them in hobby shops as well.



Jim Brewer

Glenwood MD

----- Original Message -----
From: asychis@...
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 7:35:56 PM
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Wheelset Jig

 




AMB/Laserkit's wheelset jig works very well. I use it frequently. My only
problem with it was that it is made from acrylic and is difficult to
assemble. MEK does not work and ACC only somewhat. The instructions lists the
adhesive to use, but I did not get any for this one-time job.

Jerry Michels

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Re: Accurail single-sheathed box cars and SL-SF single-sheathed box cars.

Mark
 

My oh my, Scott.

Mark Morgan


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Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 22:34:48
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Subject: [STMFC] Re: Accurail single-sheathed box cars and SL-SF single-sheathed box cars.



--- In STMFC@..., "Gene" <bierglaeser@...> wrote:
Does anyone see any odd, extra or stray characters?
I think you may have just insulted the majority of us on STMFC!
Scott Pitzer


Re: Accurail single-sheathed box cars and SL-SF single-sheathed box cars.

Scott Pitzer
 

--- In STMFC@..., "Gene" <bierglaeser@...> wrote:
Does anyone see any odd, extra or stray characters?
I think you may have just insulted the majority of us on STMFC!
Scott Pitzer


Re: Wheelset Jig

asychis@...
 

AMB/Laserkit's wheelset jig works very well. I use it frequently. My only
problem with it was that it is made from acrylic and is difficult to
assemble. MEK does not work and ACC only somewhat. The instructions lists the
adhesive to use, but I did not get any for this one-time job.

Jerry Michels


Re: Tichy panel side 2-bay hopper

Don <riverman_vt@...>
 

The "small parts vendor" was Pike Stuff which was Tony Wenzel's line. I do not know if it still is.

Don Valentine

--- In STMFC@..., Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:


Stan's kit represents a rebuild of yet another hopper, not
a rebuild of a USRA hopper. Panel side rebuilds were executed
on C&NW quad hoppers as well. Some small parts vendor used to
sell a kit of panels designed to be glued to the side of the
HO scale Athearn "rib side" hopper.

Tim O'Connor


At 9/24/2010 12:09 PM Friday, you wrote:
And then there's the kit that Stan Rydarowicz has been selling.
Clark Propst


Accurail single-sheathed box cars and SL-SF single-sheathed box cars.

Gene <bierglaeser@...>
 

Accurail offers a single-sheathed box car (#7203) lettered for SL-SF 34328, lettered built 1936, re-weighed 1951with 6-panel sides, wood doors, Dreadnaught ends, ladders (instead of grab irons), a vertical-wheel power hand brake and a fish-belly underframe. I assume the model has wood running boards.

Does Accurail 7203 possess the correct basic set of features - ends, roof, sides, doors - for SL-SF 34328?
For what approximate time period is the Accurail lettering on 7203 appropriate?

I found two pictures of similar SFSF box cars on the internet. The most notable differences are the metal door and lettering.

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=118626
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=68713

For what approximate time period is the lettering in these two photos appropriate?

Somehow I have a copy of "General Arrangement of Outside Steel Frame 40-Ton Frisco Box Car" from Railway Age Gazette, Mechanical Edition, October 1912, page 558. Surely there must have been an article on adjacent pages with more information. There is no end view on my page. The car in the drawing has:
6-panel sides
ladders
wood door
fish-belly underframe
KC air brake
Plate A or vertical staff hand brake
Wood running boards
Outside metal roof of some sort

It appears as if either a model from the Accurail "7000 Series 6-Panel Wood Boxcar with Wood Doors & Wood Ends" or the "7200 Series 6-Panel Wood Boxcar with Wood Doors & Dreadnaught Ends" might be a suitable model for the car in the drawing depending upon whether or not the car in the drawing has Dreadnaught ends.

Does anyone have additional information on these 1912 Frisco single-sheathed box cars? Were they ever built?

The earliest ad I have found for Dreadnaught ends is 1928. Does anyone know of anything earlier?

Gene Green

BTW, this message was composed in Microsoft's NotePad. Does anyone see any odd, extra or stray characters?


Re: Endangered Tools

Carey Probst <carey@...>
 

Actually I just checked the P-B-L site and both the flat backed and

rounded back flush cutters are available for $21.95 and 19.95
respectively. They also have a a Stainless Steel flush cutter for 16.95

See the Online Catalog/Tools/ Page 3, cat. numbers 840, 841, 842.

Carey



Carey Probst

Member, M.I.T. Educational Council

S Scale, Sn3 and S High Rail/AF

A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State,

the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

4a.



Denny & others,

This is bad news, I have used my PBL sprue cutters continuously
since I bought mine in 1997. I also used a miniature T square a
lot that Simpson used to make quite a bit, from the early 1980's.
I dropped last spring, it broke & I was unable to fix it. This
tool is also no longer available, since Russ Simpson passed away.
I still haven't been able to find a suitable replacement.

Now I will be more careful with my tools.

Larry Wolohon


Re: Exactrail MILW Ribsides - Wheelsets

Mark
 

Spoke with Mr. Hawkins and he confirms these to be the closest choice! I have
assembled one RibSide and understand they are not quite right! Must say that my
preference is american made but some choices are not.

Mark Morgan





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From: John <golden1014@...>
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Sat, September 25, 2010 12:33:30 PM
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Exactrail MILW Ribsides - Wheelsets


I had to touch up a few spots, and used Scalecoat oxide red with a little
Scalecoat BC red #1 mixed in. I know that probably doesn't help if you're not a
Scalecoat guy. I'd really like to be a Floquil water-based paint guy but I can't
seem to ever get it to work right.

I'm going to have a close look at this car with my RP Cyc in hand this week. At
first glance it looks alright.

John

--- In STMFC@..., Mark Morgan <bnonut@...> wrote:

How about a selection of which paint for touch up. Mine has a spot on the top
rib on the A end minus paint.
Mark Morgan

PS thanks for wheel set message





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From: John <golden1014@...>
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Fri, September 24, 2010 11:53:34 AM
Subject: [STMFC] Exactrail MILW Ribsides - Wheelsets


Gentlemen,

FYI, if you have any of the Exactrail Milwaukee "ribside" box cars and you
desire to replace the car's wheelsets with P88 wheelsets, the Intermountain P88

wheels are an exact match for the kit's Barber trucks.

John Golden
Bloomington, IN







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Re: Exactrail MILW Ribsides - Wheelsets

golden1014
 

I had to touch up a few spots, and used Scalecoat oxide red with a little Scalecoat BC red #1 mixed in. I know that probably doesn't help if you're not a Scalecoat guy. I'd really like to be a Floquil water-based paint guy but I can't seem to ever get it to work right.

I'm going to have a close look at this car with my RP Cyc in hand this week. At first glance it looks alright.

John

--- In STMFC@..., Mark Morgan <bnonut@...> wrote:

How about a selection of which paint for touch up. Mine has a spot on the top
rib on the A end minus paint.
Mark Morgan

PS thanks for wheel set message





________________________________
From: John <golden1014@...>
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Fri, September 24, 2010 11:53:34 AM
Subject: [STMFC] Exactrail MILW Ribsides - Wheelsets


Gentlemen,

FYI, if you have any of the Exactrail Milwaukee "ribside" box cars and you
desire to replace the car's wheelsets with P88 wheelsets, the Intermountain P88
wheels are an exact match for the kit's Barber trucks.

John Golden
Bloomington, IN









Re: Exactrail MILW Ribsides - Wheelsets

Mark
 

Thanks for the tip, Chuck, I purchased one of the rtr! Surprised to see the
paint missing, contacted ExcatRail and no response. Maybe they are busy working
on another rib car :-)

Mark Morgan





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From: "RUTLANDRS@..." <RUTLANDRS@...>
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Fri, September 24, 2010 3:26:24 PM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] ExactrailMILWRibsides - Wheelsets


Mark,
Sorry, I don't have the Exact Rail kit, but I do have a Rib Side Car
kit and the paint match for it is Polly Scale Oxide Red.
Chuck Hladik


In a message dated 9/24/2010 12:45:14 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
bnonut@... writes:

How about a selection of which paint for touch up. Mine has a spot on the
top
rib on the A end minus paint.
Mark Morgan

PS thanks for wheel set message

________________________________
From: John <_golden1014@... (mailto:golden1014@...) >
To: _STMFC@... (mailto:STMFC@...)
Sent: Fri, September 24, 2010 11:53:34 AM
Subject: [STMFC] ExactrailMILWRibsides - Wheelsets

Gentlemen,

FYI, if you have any of the Exactrail Milwaukee "ribside" box cars and you
desire to replace the car's wheelsets with P88 wheelsets, the
Intermountain P88
wheels are an exact match for the kit's Barber trucks.

John Golden
Bloomington, IN

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Re: Wheelset Jig

jerryglow2
 

I keep a few sets of old trucks handy in which to paint wheelsets. Any overspray on the treads is immediately removed with a pipe cleaner moistened in lacquer thinner.

Jerry Glow
http://home.comcast.net/~jerryglow/decals/

--- In STMFC@..., Hman56@... wrote:

Can anyone point me towards the site that makes the plastic jig to hold 33"
wheelset for painting.

thanks

Bill Hodkinson


Tell Tale Extra: Fredrickson, Sullivan, and the old Switcherroo!

J.A. Phillips
 

TELL TALE EXTRA: FREDRICKSON, SULLIVAN, and the old SWITCHERROO!

On the first Saturday night in October Kent Sullivan hosts ''A Day in the Life of a Tacoma Division Dispatcher'' at the White River Valley Museum in Auburn, Washington. (Note: This evening was erroneously scheduled to cover the Tacoma Division's North End, including the Sumas Line linking Puget Sound with Canada. That presentation has been re-scheduled to the first Friday in February, 2011. [See below.]) Our October show instead features Dispatcher Jim Fredrickson, together with Kent, diving into the details of Tacoma Division dispatching. Included are train sheets from the 1950s (and explanations of their use), stories from events documented in the sheets, and the preliminary results of Kent's North End traffic analysis based upon these resources. Jim will cover the Tacoma Division dispatchers as they worked in the summer of 1956, including stories about each man, descriptions of their tools of the trade, as documented by day-in-the-life photos.

Our rescheduled North End presentation will be on the first Friday night in February, 2011, when Kent will host a presentation on the Tacoma Division's North End, including the Sumas Line to British Columbia. On this night he will focus on operations in Whatcom County, including Bellingham, Wickersham, and Sumas. The territory includes the Fifteenth Sub-division and the northern-most reaches of the Fifth Sub-division (Sumas Line). Kent will share information collected not only on the NP and its facilities, but also industries served by the railway. He will also touch on the Milwaukee Road's competition. Finally, for color commentary, we hope to have Agent Lorren Coleman in attendance, the NP's man in Sumas for many years.

The White River Valley Museum offers an open house from 6:30 to 7:30, the presentation will run from 7:30 to 9:30 at the Senior Activity Center, located just across the street. The Museum has many area railroad photographs from the collection of NP Engineer Albert E. Farrow, as well as the outstanding newspaper collection of Alvin Leslie.

Presentation admission is $5 for adults, $4 for children and seniors, and free to Museum members in the Engineer, Life and above donor levels. Coffee, juice and snacks are complimentary.

The White River Valley Museum is located in the Auburn Community Campus at Les Gove Park, at 918 H Street Southeast. Hours are 12 to 4, Wednesdays through Sundays, and by appointment for group tours and research.

Regular Museum admission is $2 for adults, $1 for children and seniors. Wednesdays are free for everyone. For more information call (253) 288-7433 or look them up on the Web at www.wrvmuseum.org.

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