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Re: shipping kits

Tim O'Connor
 

In addition to weight of 13 oz, a first class package cannot be longer
than 12" in any dimension. First class is the cheapest way to go whenever
possible! Priority Mail/Fixed Price boxes are all 12" or smaller in all
dimensions, until you go to the LARGE box -- and then the price is very
high! So if you're shipping HO passenger cars, UPS probably is the less
expensive route. I recently had to look all this up trying to ship a
long car to New Zealand -- the price jumped from $18 to $40 at the 12"
dimension threshold.

Tim O'Connor

Single car shipping, the goal should be to keep the weight below 13 ounces,
above that there is a big increase to Priority Mail, and about $2.00 more. 1st
class is also non-zone rated, which means a cross crountry shipping will not
cost extra over a near destination. Priority Mail charges hefty extra fees to
farther away destinations.

I will frequently wrap a HO kit with kraft paper. Most freight cars will then
ship 1st class. I sent two kraft wrapped flat cars to a STMFC member; to keep
the total under 13 ounces, I had to remove one of the instructions. The same two
cars in a box would have been about $7.00 instead of the $3.80.

-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA


Re: Bob Liljestrand's (aka Bob's Photos) Current Address, Telephone or Email?

Scott Pitzer
 

Based on STFMC messages over several years, this guy should be on the 10 Least Findable People List, somewhere below Osama Bin Laden, but (nowadays) somewhere above J.D. Salinger.
Scott Pitzer

--- In STMFC@..., Ed Hawkins <hawk0621@...> wrote:


On Aug 21, 2010, at 12:10 PM, Bob Slavinski wrote:

Hi there....I goolged Bob's Photo's in Ansonia, CT and got a phone
number of
(203) 734-6666.....and an address of 37 Spring Street....hope this
helps...
Bob Slavinski
Max & Bob,
Bob Liljestrand moved to Kentucky several years ago. His current
address is P.O. Box 52, Wallingford, KY 40193, phone 606-845-3323.
Regards,
Ed Hawkins




Re: flat car missing floor boards

William Keene <wakeene@...>
 

Ed & Group,

In the mid-1970s -- well into the future for this group -- the Kansas City Railroad Museum requested a flatcar from the KCS to use as a stage for a weekend event. The car we received was in general service and it did have about one-third of its floor timbers missing. It was a good thing we had enough planking and plywood laying around to cover the holes. Or at least most of them.

Back to the present... I can remember seeing some rather well used flat cars in the late 1950s.

Cheers,
Bill Keene
Irvine, CA

On Sep 28, 2010, at 2:33 PM, ed_mines wrote:

Has anyone else seen a flat car with floor boards missing? In revenue service? In the steam era?

About 1980 I saw a car like this in a small train switching my then employer GAF. We were not the only customer; there were 2 other cars besides ours and the flat car. The car was missing 6-8 feet of floorboards. You cound clearly seen the underframe and stringers.

The flat may have been used as a spacer or pusher to get the other cars in/out of a building. Spacer cars like this are frequently seen in pictures on the Long Island Railroad.

ED


Re: shipping kits

Andy Carlson
 

Single car shipping, the goal should be to keep the weight below 13 ounces,
above that there is a big increase to Priority Mail, and about $2.00 more. 1st
class is also non-zone rated, which means a cross crountry shipping will not
cost extra over a near destination. Priority Mail charges hefty extra fees to
farther away destinations.

I will frequently wrap a HO kit with kraft paper. Most freight cars will then
ship 1st class. I sent two kraft wrapped flat cars to a STMFC member; to keep
the total under 13 ounces, I had to remove one of the instructions. The same two
cars in a box would have been about $7.00 instead of the $3.80.

-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA


Re: shipping kits

Benjamin Hom
 

Ed Mines asked:
"Can you guys recommend the most economical way to ship kits?

I'm shipping a P2K gon in it's original box and 2 Athearn gon shells. The P2K box is a little longer than usual so I put everything in a bigger box.

USPO wanted to charge $8+. Staples (who I thought represented UPS)wanted $12+"

Ed, to answer our question, you'll need to do the following homework:

- Weigh the contents of your package plus your shipping box plus the packaging material. Due to the relatively light weight of your contents, I recommend finding a regular shipping box first vice using carrier-provided as they will steer you towards higher-priced services that may not be economical for a small shipment.

- Explore your options online. Go to the USPS postage calculator at
http://www.usps.com/tools/calculatepostage/welcome.htm?from=home_header&page=calculatepostage
and run your package weight and destination in the calcualtor to figure your postage. You essentially have several different options: First Class Mail (weight less than 13 oz); standard Priority Mail rates, and Priority Mail flat rate packaging. I strongly recommend you explore your options using this too because depending on the weight of your package and the destination, the rates may differ greatly. FedEx and UPS have similar tools online.

- USPS, FedEx, and UPS also allow you to process pacakges and print postage online (Priority Mail only for USPS), saving you time in line at the post office/FedEx Office store/UPS Store.

If you do your homework, you can do better than the prices quoted to you. I've been shipping packages for eBay auctions for over 10 years now, and have learned the system to keep shipping costs down.


Ben Hom


flat car missing floor boards

ed_mines
 

Has anyone else seen a flat car with floor boards missing? In revenue service? In the steam era?

About 1980 I saw a car like this in a small train switching my then employer GAF. We were not the only customer; there were 2 other cars besides ours and the flat car. The car was missing 6-8 feet of floorboards. You cound clearly seen the underframe and stringers.

The flat may have been used as a spacer or pusher to get the other cars in/out of a building. Spacer cars like this are frequently seen in pictures on the Long Island Railroad.

ED


Re: Digest Number 6455

Jedalberg
 

In a message dated 9/28/2010 8:09:42 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
STMFC@... writes:

_Re: Bob Liljestrand's (aka Bob's Photos) Current Address, Telephone _
(http://groups.yahoo.com/group/STMFC/message/93602;_ylc=X3oDMTJyY3NoOTJ0BF9TAzk3
MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzI1NTQ3NTMEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MTY5NzI1BG1zZ0lkAzkzNjAyBHNlYwNk
bXNnBHNsawN2bXNnBHN0aW1lAzEyODU3MTg5NzY-)
(http://profiles.yahoo.com/bobslavinski)



Bob Has moved again, in the recent past, to another location in KY. I spoke
with him at the Dieruff Show in Allentown on Sunday.
He had about 35-40' of table, and told me the load in his truck was a ton
and a half!! He did say he would be at Naperville. He offered me his card,
but I said I already had one, from when he was at our RPM-Valley Forge in
March. Of course, I can't find it. Sorry. But only a couple of weeks' til
Naperville. Make sure you don't get a room under his.

Jim Dalberg
Paoli Pa


Re: shipping kits

ed_mines
 

Thanks to all who made suggestions. Will concentrate on the USPO and use a minimum sized box.

Never had this problem before.

Damn P2K box is pretty long relative to other demensions.

Ed


Re: Reading ques.

Larry Kline
 

I have a 1926 builders photo of RDG gon 25020 (24500-25499) and a 1957 McCoid photo of RDG gon 24198 (23500-24499), both with Taylor trucks. These are 70 ton, 46' IL USRA clone class GML gons. The wheelbase is probably 5'8" which was the standard wheelbase for 70 ton trucks.

I have three other photos of earlier GMLs 20000 and 20571 (20000-21999) and 23599 (23500-24999) that have 70 ton Andrews trucks.

There is a 1968 Jim Sands photo of 70 ton 61' IL gon 30018, class GHF (30000-31999) , on Fallen Flags:
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/rdg/rdg30018ajs.jpg

Fred Freitas wrote:
I bought 2 pair of the round center spring package trucks for a Reading project; then promptly lost my notes. Do any Reading modelers have the short list of cars
so equipped? Thanks in advance if you can help.

and Evan Leisey replied:
These are Taylor trucks that were used on a few gondola cars and class MXu box cars and tried on 2 bay hoppers. Believe they were 50 ton capacity with
5'6" wheelbase. Larger wheelbase Taylor trucks were used on a few passenger cars and some of the electric multiple-unit commuter cars. The pass. trucks had
a 7'9" wheelbase.

Larry Kline
Pittsburgh, PA


Re: Bob Liljestrand's (aka Bob's Photos) Current Address, Telephone or Email?

Ed Hawkins
 

On Aug 21, 2010, at 12:10 PM, Bob Slavinski wrote:

Hi there....I goolged Bob's Photo's in Ansonia, CT and got a phone
number of
(203) 734-6666.....and an address of 37 Spring Street....hope this
helps...
Bob Slavinski
Max & Bob,
Bob Liljestrand moved to Kentucky several years ago. His current
address is P.O. Box 52, Wallingford, KY 40193, phone 606-845-3323.
Regards,
Ed Hawkins


Re: Bob Liljestrand's (aka Bob's Photos) Current Address, Telephone or Email?

water.kresse@...
 

I have a card from Naperville 2009 that says --



Bob's Photo

P.O. Box 52

Wallingford, KY

41093



Tel: 606-845-3323



I sure hope that he is going to be at Naperville this October!  He's the first place I hit going there.



Al Kresse

Romeo, Michigan

----- Original Message -----
From: "Randy Williamson" <pennsy@...>
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 4:37:31 PM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Bob Liljestrand's (aka Bob's Photos) Current Address,        Telephone or Email?



   The latest issue of the TRP (The Railroad Press) has him located in
Kentucky.

   Randy Williamson
www.prrfreight.com

Quoting Bob Slavinski :

   Hi there....I goolged Bob's Photo's in Ansonia, CT and got a phone number of
(203) 734-6666.....and an address of 37 Spring Street....hope this helps...
Bob Slavinski

________________________________
From: Kathe Robin
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Sat, August 21, 2010 12:08:53 AM
Subject: [STMFC] Bob Liljestrand's (aka Bob's Photos) Current Address,
Telephone
or Email?

Fellow Freight Car Aficionados

Can anyone supply a current means of contacting Bob? I seem to have lost
his most current address and would like to contact him for some needed info.

TIA to all,

Max

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email: m_robin@...

smail: Max S. Robin, P.E.

Cheat River Engineering Inc. /P.O. Richwood Place

Denville, NJ 07834

voice: 973-945-5007 8:00AM-11:00PM M-F, 11:30AM-11:0000PM WE, Eastern

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Re: Bob Liljestrand's (aka Bob's Photos) Current Address, Telephone or Email?

Norm Buckhart
 

it's 606-845-3323, P.O. Box 52, Wallingford, KY 41093. Norm Buckhart

On Sep 28, 2010, at 1:54 PM, Anthony Thompson wrote:

Bob Slavinski wrote:
Hi there....I goolged Bob's Photo's in Ansonia, CT and got a phone
number of (203) 734-6666.....and an address of 37 Spring
Street....hope this helps...
An ancient address and phone, sir. Bob's been located in
Kentucky for over two years. I do think he changed addresses again
quite recently, so am not sure I have the CURRENT one.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@...
Publishers of books on railroad history




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Re: Bob Liljestrand's (aka Bob's Photos) Current Address, Telephone or Email?

Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
 

Bob Slavinski wrote:
Hi there....I goolged Bob's Photo's in Ansonia, CT and got a phone number of (203) 734-6666.....and an address of 37 Spring Street....hope this helps...
An ancient address and phone, sir. Bob's been located in Kentucky for over two years. I do think he changed addresses again quite recently, so am not sure I have the CURRENT one.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@...
Publishers of books on railroad history


Re: shipping kits

Pierre <pierre.oliver@...>
 

Ed,
I've been shipping models now many years now using the mail exclusively.
I find the rates fair and the delivery times quite acceptable, even to Europe from Canada.
Pierre Oliver

--- In STMFC@..., "ed_mines" <ed_mines@...> wrote:

Can you guys recommend the most economical way to ship kits?

I'm shipping a P2K gon in it's original box and 2 Athearn gon shells. The P2K box is a little longer than usual so I put everything in a bigger box.

USPO wanted to charge $8+. Staples (who I thought represented UPS)wanted $12+

Ed


Re: The Atlas USRA steel rebuild. Again.

Don Burn
 

While I was mainly looking at N scale, I never saw a 10 panel version of
this car from Atlas, can you point to a reference?

Don Burn

-----Original Message-----
From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of
spsalso
Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 9:44 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] Re: The Atlas USRA steel rebuild. Again.

While the first batch of these Atlas cars were 10 panel, the current run
appears to be 8 panel.


Ed

Edward Sutorik



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Re: Bob Liljestrand's (aka Bob's Photos) Current Address, Telephone or Email?

Randy Williamson
 

The latest issue of the TRP (The Railroad Press) has him located in
Kentucky.

Randy Williamson
www.prrfreight.com

Quoting Bob Slavinski :

Hi there....I goolged Bob's Photo's in Ansonia, CT and got a phone number of
(203) 734-6666.....and an address of 37 Spring Street....hope this helps...
Bob Slavinski

________________________________
From: Kathe Robin
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Sat, August 21, 2010 12:08:53 AM
Subject: [STMFC] Bob Liljestrand's (aka Bob's Photos) Current Address,
Telephone
or Email?

Fellow Freight Car Aficionados

Can anyone supply a current means of contacting Bob? I seem to have lost
his most current address and would like to contact him for some needed info.

TIA to all,

Max

===========================================================================

email: m_robin@...

smail: Max S. Robin, P.E.

Cheat River Engineering Inc. /P.O. Richwood Place

Denville, NJ 07834

voice: 973-945-5007 8:00AM-11:00PM M-F, 11:30AM-11:0000PM WE, Eastern

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Re: shipping kits

Mark
 

Did you try First class, Ed. priority is a little higher but they might have a box you can use.

Mark Morgan

--- On Thu, 9/23/10, ed_mines <ed_mines@...> wrote:

From: ed_mines <ed_mines@...>
Subject: [STMFC] shipping kits
To: STMFC@...
Date: Thursday, September 23, 2010, 3:43 PM







 









Can you guys recommend the most economical way to ship kits?



I'm shipping a P2K gon in it's original box and 2 Athearn gon shells. The P2K box is a little longer than usual so I put everything in a bigger box.



USPO wanted to charge $8+. Staples (who I thought represented UPS)wanted $12+



Ed

























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Re: Reading ques.

Leisey <RDG2124@...>
 

Assume by round center springs you mean the sideframes had round holes for the springs? These are Taylor trucks that were used on a few gondola cars and class MXu box cars and tried on 2 bay hoppers. Believe they were 50 ton capacity with 5'6" wheelbase. Larger wheelbase Taylor trucks were used on a few passenger cars and some of the electric multiple-unit commuter cars. The pass. trucks had a 7'9" wheelbase.

Evan Leisey
Reading Co. Transistion Era

I bought 2 pair of the round center spring package trucks for a Reading project; then promptly lost my notes. Do any Reading modelers have the short list of cars so equipped? Thanks in advance if you can help.

Fred Freitas
PRR Panhandle Divn. / 1953


Re: Railshop Carbon Black Car ?

ed_mines
 

--- In STMFC@..., Denny Anspach <danspach@...> wrote:
Red Ball produced an HO model of a Carbon Black covered hopper c. 1941 ff. From this slim piece of evidence, I would presume the prototypes arose in the '30s sometime.
If I'm not mistaken there are pictures of these cars in the Kalmbach reprint of the 1941CBC.

Carbon black is very fluffy (i.e. few lbs./cu ft.) and significant amount gets lost when it's packed in bags.

Ed


Reading ques.

Panhandle Division 1953 <prrinvt@...>
 

Guyz,

I bought 2 pair of the round center spring package trucks for a Reading project; then promptly lost my notes. Do any Reading modelers have the short list of cars so equipped? Thanks in advance if you can help.

Fred Freitas
PRR Panhandle Divn. / 1953

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